Novak did a big mistake by winning Rome

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Novak "did" a big mistake by winning Rome

he was still cautious with his celebration as he knew that things like over-the-top fist pumping and shirt ripping would be fatal for his cause at roland garros as that would only bloody fire up nadal......

but the thing is the defeat still brought back nadal's fire to where it should be......this defeat will anger him and put him on practice courts for a few more hours and sharpen all ends of his game.......that fire is what he exactly needed for roland garros......

book it now......roland garros final will not go beyond 4 sets if nole makes it to nadal......nadal will be waiting in the final......he just wants nole on the other side of the net and he just wants to finish him off in 3 sets......
 
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With regular marathons at Rome, Nadal tested his body to the full extent, and was 3-3 in the final set. Nadal will be encouraged by Rome. And yes, Djokovic has given Nadal some extra motivation for Roland Garros by beating him on the eve. You can see the rage in Nadal when they meet at the slams.
 
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NADALRECORD said:
With regular marathons at Rome, Nadal tested his body to the full extent, and was 3-3 in the final set. Nadal will be encouraged by Rome. And yes, Djokovic has given Nadal some extra motivation for Roland Garros by beating him on the eve. You can see the rage in Nadal when they meet at the slams.
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Am extremely worried for Rafa though got feeling he might lose 10-8 or something in the 5th set!:cry:
 
SLD76

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Just like Nadal got fired up and found his ultimate form after almost losing to andujar...
And getting beaten by Ferrer. .
And then by Almagro..
And then by almost getting thrashed by Nishikori..

Yup. You can see how all those losses have helped him.
 
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Excellent point. He may make a further mistake, and rile Nadal up even more, by winning Roland Garros. Big mistake. Best strategy would be to lose to Nadal consistently for about two more years and really soften him up mentally. That's smart tennis.
 
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This kind of delusion amongst the Nadal fanatics is really pathetic.

Nadal is almost done beating Djoko. He just can't do it. Even when he beat Djoko last year, it took heavy physical & mental battles, and chanelling deepest reserves from him to win those 3 matches. On the other hand when Djoko wins, he cruises.

Nadal accepts defeat even before he goes on court to face Novak. He has been tamed by his nemesis, I'm afraid.

And it's only a matter of time, for Djoko to translate this into Slams and beat Rafa there once again.
 
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why havnt all the other defeats he's had earlier in the season angered him them....maybe he's as angry as he gets now?he sure doesnt look happy out there.
 
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irishnadalfan1983 said:
I thought both their reactions were subdued - Nadal not oo disappointed nor Djoko too excited. No idea what that is all about.
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Armchair paychologist. For Djoko, it's about believing he can beat Nadal anywhere even on clay. It's sending a message of expecting to win.


For Nadal could be hiding disappointment, or could be that he didn't expect to win. Compare his reaction to losing to almagro.
 
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Djokovic can't actually beat Nadal at slams. Nadal has won their last 3 slam meetings, despite Djokovic winning 5 of their last 6 non-slam meetings (including their last 2 clay non-slam meetings). Even when Djokovic beat Nadal in straight sets at Monte Carlo 2013, Djokovic went on to lose Roland Garros and US Open. Let's face it, you can't trust Djokovic at slams. He can't get it done. He's getting worse each year at the slams - that's why he holds none.
 
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SLD76 said:
Armchair paychologist. For Djoko, it's about believing he can beat Nadal anywhere even on clay. It's sending a message of expecting to win.


For Nadal could be hiding disappointment, or could be that he didn't expect to win. Compare his reaction to losing to almagro.
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Maybe - I don't know. Nobody does I suppose.

Normally one guy is super excited to beat the other and and the other guy is terribly disappointed. They were both a bit flat after I thought. Maybe there is nothing to it at all....
 
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NADALRECORD said:
Djokovic can't actually beat Nadal at slams. Nadal has won their last 3 slam meetings, despite Djokovic winning 5 of their last 6 non-slam meetings (including their last 2 clay non-slam meetings). Even when Djokovic beat Nadal in straight sets at Monte Carlo 2013, Djokovic went on to lose Roland Garros and US Open. Let's face it, you can't trust Djokovic at slams. He can't get it done. He's getting worse each year at the slams - that's why he holds none.
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Of course he can, and you suggesting he can't is absurd. He beat Nadal is slams before and he can do it in the future.
 
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irishnadalfan1983 said:
Maybe - I don't know. Nobody does I suppose.

Normally one guy is super excited to beat the other and and the other guy is terribly disappointed. They were both a bit flat after I thought. Maybe there is nothing to it at all....
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Could be everything, could be nothing.
 
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robert.s said:
Of course he can, and you suggesting he can't is absurd. He beat Nadal is slams before and he can do it in the future.
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Nadal record has been posting all kinds of nonsense in order to console himself. Can you blame him after the clay season rafa has had so far?
 
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Rozroz said:
his controlled celebration was also due to the Serbian floods, i think.
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Yes, it wouldn't look good on the front pages of their newspapers to have news of death tolls accompanied by a jubilant Djokovic grinning. He is patriotic and always thinks of his country.
 
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To be Fair, Djokovic played out of his mind in the 3rd set. He played with such extreme aggression, which Nadal had no answer for. I expect their RG match to be extremely tight if Djokovic can bring his A game to the table.
 
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helloworld said:
To be Fair, Djokovic played out of his mind in the 3rd set. He played with such extreme aggression, which Nadal had no answer for. I expect their RG match to be extremely tight if Djokovic can bring his A game to the table.
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10-8 Djokvic in the 5th you herd it here first!:)
 
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NADALRECORD said:
With regular marathons at Rome, Nadal tested his body to the full extent, and was 3-3 in the final set. Nadal will be encouraged by Rome. And yes, Djokovic has given Nadal some extra motivation for Roland Garros by beating him on the eve. You can see the rage in Nadal when they meet at the slams.
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Totally. I remember AO 2012 final where Nadal was up a break in the fifth and came really close to beating Nole in his favorite tournament, and how encouraged he was after that.
 
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furryballs said:
yes thankyou....youre predictions in the thread yesterday were all spot on so i shall consider this a given.....do you have the lotto numbers for tonight as well?
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But am not gambling on this or maybe I do match betting where you bet £100 on Nadal and on the other betting company you bet £100 on Novak to win profit for both of them range from x2.3 to 2.6 with Nadal obviously the Favorite.:)
 
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sbengte said:
Totally. I remember AO 2012 final where Nadal was up a break in the fifth and came really close to beating Nole in his favorite tournament, and how encouraged he was after that.
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That is the closest Nadal is ever going to get when it comes to beating DjokerNole at A0
 
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xFedal said:
That is the closest Nadal is ever going to get when it comes to beating DjokerNole at A0
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How about I say, RG '13 semi was the closest Djokovic is ever going to get when it comes to beating NadalRafa at RG?!

No one knows the future. People should stop acting like they're Nostradamus!
 
sbengte

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Start da Game said:
he was still cautious with his celebration as he knew that things like over-the-top fist pumping and shirt ripping would be fatal for his cause at roland garros as that would only bloody fire up nadal......

but the thing is the defeat still brought back nadal's fire to where it should be......this defeat will anger him and put him on practice courts for a few more hours and sharpen all ends of his game.......that fire is what he exactly needed for roland garros......
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I am afraid Nadal may have made a bigger mistake by beating Nole at USO 2013, seeing as how he has lost 4 in a row to Nole after that :(
 
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Start da Game said:
he was still cautious with his celebration as he knew that things like over-the-top fist pumping and shirt ripping would be fatal for his cause at roland garros as that would only bloody fire up nadal......

but the thing is the defeat still brought back nadal's fire to where it should be......this defeat will anger him and put him on practice courts for a few more hours and sharpen all ends of his game.......that fire is what he exactly needed for roland garros......

book it now......roland garros final will not go beyond 4 sets if nole makes it to nadal......nadal will be waiting in the final......he just wants nole on the other side of the net and he just wants to finish him off in 3 sets......
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Lol, 4 defeats in a row, Nadal's anger most be off the charts!!

Don't worry though, If they do meet in Roland Garros, Djokovic will be sure he puts out the flame FOR GOOD!
 
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sbengte said:
I am afraid Nadal may have made a bigger mistake by beating Nole at USO 2013, seeing as how he has lost 4 in a row to Nole after that :(
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Lol, 4 defeats in a row, Nadal's anger most be off the charts!!

Don't worry though, If they do meet in Roland Garros, Djokovic will be sure he puts out the flame FOR GOOD!
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i don't think you guys and few others in the previous page are getting it......the point is that you make nadal angry by denying him his ground on clay......the best way to soften him up for roland garros is by allowing him his ground and assuring him a false sense of security......all that to turn the tide of pressure on him......

now that djokovic took rome, he just reversed the tide of pressure upon himself by not only freeing nadal from expectations but also angering him......the french open final is now not destined to go beyond 3 or max 4 sets......book it......
 
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LazyNinja19 said:
This kind of delusion amongst the Nadal fanatics is really pathetic.

Nadal is almost done beating Djoko. He just can't do it. Even when he beat Djoko last year, it took heavy physical & mental battles, and chanelling deepest reserves from him to win those 3 matches. On the other hand when Djoko wins, he cruises.

Nadal accepts defeat even before he goes on court to face Novak. He has been tamed by his nemesis, I'm afraid.

And it's only a matter of time, for Djoko to translate this into Slams and beat Rafa there once again.
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Silly thread.

Look, Nadal's the favourite for RG and Nole is his main threat. But you gotta beat the man to be the man so until Nole does it, Nadal's the KOC.
8/9 is no joke and we've seen what Nadal's capable of in that RG 13 fifth set but please no need to exaggerate either.
 
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Start da Game said:
i don't think you guys and few others in the previous page are getting it......the point is that you make nadal angry by denying him his ground on clay......the best way to soften him up for roland garros is by allowing him his ground and assuring him a false sense of security......all that to turn the tide of pressure on him......
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yeah, like how Nadal was softening him all summer last year prior to USO
great strategy SDG...no doubt about that
 
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tennisaddict said:
Good post.
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more like wishful thinking on that poster's part......nadal is not afraid of djokovic......it is actually the other way around......djokovic is terrified of facing nadal at roland garros......he is not strong enough to play the waiting game and deliver the blow at the right time......like a child he fights too hard for best of 3 titles, wins sometimes but chokes at the real men's format the best of 5 in slams......he trails 0-5 at roland garros to rafa......that stat should be enough story already to be convinced about nadal's domination at the slam over djokovic......
 
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Start da Game said:
more like wishful thinking on that poster's part......nadal is not afraid of djokovic......it is actually the other way around......djokovic is terrified of facing nadal at roland garros......he is not strong enough to play the waiting game and deliver the blow at the right time......like a child he fights too hard for best of 3 titles, wins sometimes but chokes at the real men's format the best of 5 in slams......he trails 0-5 at roland garros to rafa......that stat should be enough story already to be convinced about nadal's domination at the slam over djokovic......
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Noone wins forever and Nadal's time will come too, whether it's this year or the next. With all due respect to the KOC, if he's fated to lose his clay throne in this RG, he WILL. Nothing you/I can do about it. Lest I remind you that Nadal had a lucky escape in both RG 11 and RG 13(the net trip) so perhaps he's reached the end of the rope. We'll just have to wait n see. ;)
 
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vladap said:
yeah, like how Nadal was softening him all summer last year prior to USO
great strategy SDG...no doubt about that
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that logic doesn't apply there......djokovic was no beast at us open......it was not his territory by any stretch......he had a dismal 1-3 record in finals there which was reduced even more to 1-4 at the end of '13 final......
 
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monfed said:
Noone wins forever and Nadal's time will come too, whether it's this year or the next. With all due respect to the KOC, if he's fated to lose his clay throne in this RG, he WILL. Nothing you/I can do about it. Lest I remind you that Nadal had a lucky escape in both RG 11 and RG 13(the net trip) so perhaps he's reached the end of the rope. We'll just have to wait n see. ;)
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if nadal loses, it will have to be before the final......if he gets to the final, you can forget the title......he is unbeatable in slam finals......he comes prepared to fight for a minimum of 7 hours leaving everything on the court even to an extent of breaking one of his knees......
 
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Start da Game said:
if nadal loses, it will have to be before the final......if he gets to the final, you can forget the title......he is unbeatable in slam finals......he comes prepared to fight for a minimum of 7 hours leaving everything on the court even to an extent of breaking one of his knees......
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So unbeatable that he's lost 6 slam finals...
 
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Djokovic also was too scared to pummel Nadal when they came up to the net, whereas Nadal was all to happy to go for Djokovic when the situation was reversed.

I don't see anything bad about winning the tournament though. It can only hurt Nadal.
 
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Start da Game said:
he was still cautious with his celebration as he knew that things like over-the-top fist pumping and shirt ripping would be fatal for his cause at roland garros as that would only bloody fire up nadal......

but the thing is the defeat still brought back nadal's fire to where it should be......this defeat will anger him and put him on practice courts for a few more hours and sharpen all ends of his game.......that fire is what he exactly needed for roland garros......

book it now......roland garros final will not go beyond 4 sets if nole makes it to nadal......nadal will be waiting in the final......he just wants nole on the other side of the net and he just wants to finish him off in 3 sets......
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Good point and I had similar thoughts. But, on the other side of the equation, I am sure Djoko realizes Nadal will be heavily motivated at RG because Djoko has beaten him in Roma and other masters, and because Nadal is defending RG champ as well as all time clay great.

To be honest, we should also consider than Djoko did not red line his game in Roma and still won. I think Djoko could actually have a little more left in the tank. I thought Djoko played within himself and actually made a lot of UFErrors to lose the 1st set and let Nadal back into the 3rd set. I think the UFEs were due to the injury - layoff and uncertainty about wrist holding up. I think if Djoko rest his wrist and practices the right amount, he can actually play better at RG if the wrist holds up.
 
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FormerNadalFan said:
Well shucks, don't they need to make it to the FO final first. First things first, people.
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Yep, Djoko struggles a bit with Federer and Wawrinka and may not even make the final. Nadal has struggled against Ferrer, Almagro, Murray, Nishikori and a few others this clay season too. My prediction is they will both get there but stranger things have happened.
 
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