Novak Djokovic appoints Boris Becker as new head coach

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Sid_Vicious said:
I don't think I have seen a tennis pro age as poorly as Becker has.

Looking at him now, you would think he played with Mcenroe and Borg as opposed to Edberg and Agassi.
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I think Wilander looks like he is in his 60's at times, so many wrinkles...same with Mac to be honest. Borg aged the best of the pros of that generation.
 
What's with all the comments on his looks? :shock:

Regarding this topic, Djokovic and Becker are two very different personalities. On one hand, you have a robot tennis machine with Lendl-like approach to tennis. On another hand, you have an immensely talented playboy with Safin-like approach. I don't know how these two can match up really. :-?
 
Novak strikes me as loyal guy (he stuck with Martin way longer than he should have) so I expect it to last a bit longer than Connors/Maria. But it seems like an unlikely match.
 
i think it's interesting. from his commentating he seems like a thoughtful guy. he's had a lot of time to reflect on the game, and he probably has some wise words on how novak might better capitalize on his position than he did himself at the same age. the fact that it's not a 'round peg in round hole' solution makes it worth staying tuned at least.
 
cucio said:
Amongst all top players I'd say Nole is the one who has the least room for improvement, his tennis is as close to effective perfection as it gets. You can tell Nadal to shorten the points, or Murray to buy himself a friggin' second serve... but Novak? He has all the shots, great conditioning, great mental strength... if I were his coach the only thing I could say is "just keep doing what you do, manage your schedule carefully and try to avoid injuries". Maybe be a bit less emotionally dependent on other people's approval, he really gets down when a match is close and the audience supports the other guy.

And Becker of all people. I am maybe presuming too much here, but Nole strikes me sometimes as emotionally childish. Maybe he has Lendl-envy and wants a pet tennis legend in his bench too?
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More undermining and underrating of Djokovic. As usual :roll:
 
This is a wierd parternship and I dont see it working well or even lasting that long (unless both are stubborn and insistent on continuing despite it not being successful).
 
After the USO final Fibak, the former Polish player
hired by Djokovic as a coaching consultant, said about Nadal:

“During the match, the thought that kept coming to my mind was that I
was watching a genius."

"It’s like Chopin who was born to compose music. Nadal was born to win tennis matches."

Fibak got fired straight away! What would trigger Becker's sacking?
 
clayqueen said:
After the USO final Fibak, the former Polish player
hired by Djokovic as a coaching consultant, said about Nadal:

“During the match, the thought that kept coming to my mind was that I
was watching a genius."

"It’s like Chopin who was born to compose music. Nadal was born to win tennis matches."

Fibak got fired straight away! What would trigger Becker's sacking?
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Saying that he hopes Murray will win Wimbledon as he says every year when he commentates there for the BBC? :wink:
 
MichaelNadal said:
Mind. Blown. How in the world do you age so much in 8 years? He even has a Daniel Craig vibe in this pic :lol: And he looks so smooth on TopSpin 4. Like a G.
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Becker looks like he had a daily dose of Hot Pockets administered intravenously. Just one more ghastly presence in Djokovic's box. If the intention is to scare the competition, well done. :)
 
Chico said:
More undermining and underrating of Djokovic. As usual :roll:
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Saying he is the closest thing out there to a perfect tennis player is underrating? Oooooook! :grin: Next time I will praise his hairdo too, and how pretty and supportive is his girlfriend.

And the thing about his childishness, you just have to watch him seeking attention and approval with lame jokes throughout all his career, or the last two games of the USO final against Murray.

No one is above criticism or above being the subject of a joke, dude, just chill.
 
cucio said:
Saying he is the closest thing out there to a perfect tennis player is underrating? Oooooook! :grin: Next time I will praise his hairdo too, and how pretty and supportive is his girlfriend.

And the thing about his childishness, you just have to watch him seeking attention and approval with lame jokes throughout all his career, or the last two games of the USO final against Murray.

No one is above criticism or above being the subject of a joke, dude, just chill.
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Chillco? :lol:
 
Oh man I remember when Todd Martin coached Djokovic, especially that Coria-esc yipfest vs Melzer at that French Open.
 
JRAJ1988 said:
Oh man I remember when Todd Martin coached Djokovic, especially that Coria-esc yipfest vs Melzer at that French Open.
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Todd Martin gets the blame for everything, but Djokovic's pathetic serving and level of play was there well before Todd Martin joined the team.
 
Sid_Vicious said:
Todd Martin gets the blame for everything, but Djokovic's pathetic serving and level of play was there well before Todd Martin joined the team.
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He did win a slam with that iffy serve in his defense but before 2011 you're are right.
 
cucio said:
Saying he is the closest thing out there to a perfect tennis player is underrating? Oooooook! :grin: Next time I will praise his hairdo too, and how pretty and supportive is his girlfriend.

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Sorry, but you basically said that Djokovic has limited potential and that he reached his limit already, while Nadal and Murray have much higher potential and can still greatly improve. Sorry but that is faaaaar from the truth and I must say not very rational thing to say.

Thanks.
 
Chico said:
Sorry, but you basically said that Djokovic has limited potential and that he reached his limit already, while Nadal and Murray have much higher potential and can still greatly improve. Sorry but that is faaaaar from the truth and I must say not very rational thing to say.

Thanks.
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I agree. Djokovic has WTA serve, non existent volleys, pathetic overheads and zero variety. He could improve his game in many ways, particularly if he stops pushing. He might even reach another wimbledon final.
 
Sid_Vicious said:
Todd Martin gets the blame for everything, but Djokovic's pathetic serving and level of play was there well before Todd Martin joined the team.
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no, it wasn't ... watch his serve in 07, 08 when compared to 09 and 10 ...considerable difference, especially from mid-end 2009 onwards ....

in 07 & 08 particularly, djokovic's serve was very good.

2007, 518 aces, 195 DFs
2008, 493 aces, 154 DFs

2009, 502 aces, 263 DFs
2010 , 304 aces, 282 DFs
 
Chico said:
Sorry, but you basically said that Djokovic has limited potential and that he reached his limit already, while Nadal and Murray have much higher potential and can still greatly improve. Sorry but that is faaaaar from the truth and I must say not very rational thing to say.
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Well, that's one heck of a twisted way of reading into what I wrote. If it makes you feel better, even if Nadal or Murray improved on those more obvious (and relative) weaknesses I pointed out, I don't think they would be able to beat Djokovic v2011 consistently.
 
Djoker´s GF fits not in Becker´s hunting pattern.
He likes it only black in the sack.

Djoker knows that the 6 slams Becker has were 4-times more difficult to win than his slams.

No homogenized surfaces, no homogenized playing styles, a stronger field; Becker had to deal with this.

Nadal is chronical injured with his foot/knee, Djoker will win his FO with or without Becker (same as Fed).

Becker can complete Djoker´s skills and is not afraid to say his opinion.

In opposite to Fed Djoker can handle honest words.


Rina said:
You have no clue how different they are, Germans generally dislike Serbs and vice versa.
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LOL Do not be a tool of the controlled media.

KR
 
abmk said:
no, it wasn't ... watch his serve in 07, 08 when compared to 09 and 10 ...considerable difference, especially from mid-end 2009 onwards ....

in 07 & 08 particularly, djokovic's serve was very good.

2007, 518 aces, 195 DFs
2008, 493 aces, 154 DFs

2009, 502 aces, 263 DFs
2010 , 304 aces, 282 DFs
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That is huge drop of level while his overall game was improving. Unreal.
 
moonballs said:
That is huge drop of level while his overall game was improving. Unreal.
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his overall game wasn't really improving ...

his 2009-10 were worse than his 2007-08 .... 08 being the best of those of course and 10 being his worst ...
 
After the last big dust up with Rafa, Nole did say he wanted to add a more attacking dimension to his game so it looks like he's very serious about it. I'd love to see what happens at the AO 2014 and RG 2014 if Nole does come out SV-ing more.

I imagine many dingdongpingpongers will probably be bitterly disappointed that Nole is trying a more allcourt game, though...hee hee hee!
 
nole seems to be more willing to come to the net than both murray and nadal though they have better touch/feel at the net than him ....

maybe he realizes that being more aggressive and finishing points at the net would help him quite a bit ... that's why this pairing ...
 
Rina said:
What values do they have in common? Never heard of this, other than always fighting in wars, against each other? Same sense of values? Kill as many Serbs as you can during wars? Where are you from? You have no clue how different they are, Germans generally dislike Serbs and vice versa.
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Oh wow. What unbelievable knowledge displayed. 38 years in Germany and I can tell everyone on this board that I never read more ******** than in these quoted sentences. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 
abmk said:
no, it wasn't ... watch his serve in 07, 08 when compared to 09 and 10 ...considerable difference, especially from mid-end 2009 onwards ....

in 07 & 08 particularly, djokovic's serve was very good.

2007, 518 aces, 195 DFs
2008, 493 aces, 154 DFs

2009, 502 aces, 263 DFs
2010 , 304 aces, 282 DFs
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Of course Djokovic's serve was a lot better back in the day, but he hired Todd Martin in August or September of 2009. As you can see, Djokovic's numbers weren't that good in 2009 to begin with. Todd Martin didn't help at all, but Djokovic was at fault as well.
 
wrong move from djokovic......this is going to be a major flop of 2014......becker is not someone you would want as a coach......looking at his general behavioral traits, becker is exciting, enthusiastic, energetic but not calm, shrewd, patient......

the comparison with murray/lendl doesn't make any sense......because a patient fighter like lendl was exactly what murray needed at that point as he was struggling with big match nerves, patience and composure......so from that angle, i don't see what becker could possibly add to djokovic's game or mindset......
 
Graf=GOAT said:
I agree. Djokovic has WTA serve, non existent volleys, pathetic overheads and zero variety. He could improve his game in many ways, particularly if he stops pushing. He might even reach another wimbledon final.
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Pushing? Novak has a higher groundstroke speed average than Nadal and Murray....
Even though he lost his encounters with them this year, he was generally the one who had more winners....

Correct me if I'm wrong too but Djokovic was able to win 20 net points against Del Potro at Paris this year, so he has been working on everything including his serve.
Contrary to popular belief Djokovic's technique is better than what it was in 2011. Hes more willing to go to the net and try to serve his games out. Granted hes only slightly above average in these aspects he has been continually improving.
 
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I hope this works out, Boris is awesome. So many negative comments about it not working.

Ever heard of opposites attract? I think this could work out, idk but I'm looking forward to seeing what happens in 2014. Bovak Djecker? Noris Beckovic? Either way it'll be interesting.
 
Nadal and Djokovic are essentially cut from the same cloth. They are both warriors willing to grind you out if need be. Novak has the potential to be a better player than Rafa at his very best (my opinion). I say that because:
Forehand - Nadal
Backhand - Djokovic
Serve - Djokovic
Offensive Movement - Nadal (best in tennis IMO, ever)
Defensive Movement - Djokovic
Volley - Edge to Nadal (improvement here would be the deciding factor IMO)
Overhead - Nadal
Defense to offense - Equal
Defense to neutral - Djokovic

Will be an interesting 2014 if Nole steps up his game.
 
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wy2sl0 said:
Nadal and Djokovic are essentially cut from the same cloth. They are both warriors willing to grind you out if need be. Novak has the potential to be a better player than Rafa at his very best (my opinion). I say that because:
Forehand - Nadal
Backhand - Djokovic
Serve - Djokovic
Speed - Equal
Volley - Edge to Nadal (improvement here would be the deciding factor IMO)
Overhead - Nadal
Defense to offense - Equal
Defense to neutral - Djokovic
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I think Nadal's serve is more effective than Djokovic, specially his 2nd serve. Less pace but better placement.
 
Forehand Of Doom said:
I think Nadal's serve is more effective than Djokovic, specially his 2nd serve. Less pace but better placement.
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I agree. If you wanted to be more accurate, it would be 1st serve djokovic and 2nd serve Nadal.

~299 aces last season for Rafa and ~493 for Djokovic. Not really close.
 
wy2sl0 said:
I agree. If you wanted to be more accurate, it would be 1st serve djokovic and 2nd serve Nadal.

~299 aces last season for Rafa and ~493 for Djokovic. Not really close.
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You made me look the stats for 2013, and surprisingly Nadal has a higher winning percentage on 1st Serve and lower on 2nd Serve than Djokovic, which I wasn't expecting.

Djokovic had a better serve overall by a large margin in 2013 anyway, you are correct.
 
cucio said:
Well, that's one heck of a twisted way of reading into what I wrote. If it makes you feel better, even if Nadal or Murray improved on those more obvious (and relative) weaknesses I pointed out, I don't think they would be able to beat Djokovic v2011 consistently.
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Sorry. I clearly misunderstood what you were trying to say. My bad.
 
HailDjokovic said:
Pushing? Novak has a higher groundstroke speed average than Nadal and Murray....
Even though he lost his encounters with them this year, he was generally the one who had more winners....

Correct me if I'm wrong too but Djokovic was able to win 20 net points against Del Potro at Paris this year, so he has been working on everything including his serve.
Contrary to popular belief Djokovic's technique is better than what it was in 2011. Hes more willing to go to the net and try to serve his games out. Granted hes only slightly above average in these aspects he has been continually improving.
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Hi HailDjokovic, Don't waste your time to bother answering to that person. He is not worth it.
 
Haven't gone through the whole thread. So, apologies if this has been addressed.
If there is one thing that became evidently clear during Djokovic and Nadal's matches recently, specially the French, is that Djokovic needs to follow on his strokes to the net, when he pushes Nadal off the court and put away those defensive retrieved shots. So many times he allowed Nadal to get back into the rally with floaters and other easy put aways.

I was glad to see that he began to work on that in his later matches, but he is still not good enough and that overhead thing must be remedied.

So, hiring Becker makes sense to me from that aspect and in terms of grass movement. However, will their characters be compatible is a totally different story. Really, don't know about that. Tactically, I think it does make sense, though.
 
I would love to see their contract. Becker might be getting money for old rope because I just don't see what he's got to offer.
 
In 2009, "a newly engaged Boris Becker offers some free coaching to Roger Federer: drop Davis Cup and quit being so nice to Rafael Nadal.


He also diagnoses Federer with a Nadal-Komplex (is that a disease or a tennis player?)"

Read more: BORIS BECKER COACHES ROGER FEDERER: RAFAEL NADAL IS YOUR WORST ENEMY | GOTOTENNIS http://gototennis.com/2009/03/02/bo...fael-nadal-is-your-worst-enemy/#ixzz2o0FKiia9
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He can't tell Djoker to quit being nice to Nadal because he isn't nice to Nadal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI02H22bzRg
 
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clayqueen said:
In 2009, "a newly engaged Boris Becker offers some free coaching to Roger Federer: drop Davis Cup and quit being so nice to Rafael Nadal.


He also diagnoses Federer with a Nadal-Komplex (is that a disease or a tennis player?)"

Read more: BORIS BECKER COACHES ROGER FEDERER: RAFAEL NADAL IS YOUR WORST ENEMY | GOTOTENNIS http://gototennis.com/2009/03/02/bo...fael-nadal-is-your-worst-enemy/#ixzz2o0FKiia9
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He can't tell Djoker to quit being nice to Nadal because he isn't nice to Nadal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI02H22bzRg
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In any case, not being nice to Nadal just makes him more mad and makes him play even better :). Nadal always wants to kill his opponent on court. Giving him additional motivation is not a good idea.

Actually praising hurts Nadal and Fed more. Nadal and his camp was praising Fed, while Djokovic and his camp were mean to Fed. And Fed did well vs Djokovic, not so well vs Nadal.

Djokovic was nice to Rafa in 2011. Telling Rafa, he is the goat while owning him. The same Rafa did to Fed :).
 
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