Roddick-Djokovic controversy

sureshs

Bionic Poster
First this:

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news;_y...slug=ys-nydnroddick090408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Novak Djokovic is known for his hilarious impersonations of other tennis stars, but the Serbian jokester is also developing a reputation for what some see as his acting when it comes to his own health.

Andy Roddick made the most anticipated quarterfinal of the tournament Thursday between himself and Djokovic the spiciest one as well by suggesting that Djokovic’s theatrics are as impressive as his groundstrokes.

When a reporter started to ask Roddick about Djokovic’s laundry list of ailments, starting with a right ankle injury, the eighth-seeded American interrupted by joking, “Isn’t it both of them?”

“And a back and a hip?” Roddick added, after crushing Fernando Gonzalez in the fourth round on Tuesday night. “And a cramp?”

Roddick couldn’t help himself and didn’t stop there. He interrupted another question about Djokovic by blurting out, “Bird flu.” And then when told that the third-seeded Djokovic has a long list of illnesses, Roddick cracked, “Anthrax. SARS. Common cough and cold.”

“If it’s there, it’s there,” Roddick clarified. “There’s just a lot. You know, he’s either quick to call a trainer or he’s the most courageous guy of all time. I think it’s up for you guys to decide.”

So much for tennis etiquette.

Djokovic, meanwhile, skipped his practice session Wednesday and opted for rest at his hotel, but his spokesperson said that Djokovic will wait until he steps onto the court to respond.

“Novak speaks on-court and has no comment on this today,” said Benito Perez-Barbadillo. “The only thing to say is that it will be a difficult match against a great player like Roddick. Novak will try his best as usual.”

Against Robredo, Djokovic called for a trainer to examine his injured right hip and right ankle. Robredo accused Djokovic of stalling during the 4-6, 6-2, 6-3, 5-7, 6-3 victory.

“If you’re not fit enough, then don’t play,” Robredo said. “But after every time he was asking for a trainer, he was running like hell and he was making the shot, but he does what he does a lot of times.”

“So did I trust him? No,” Robredo continued. “I think he took his time because he did it because he was a little bit more tired and that’s a part of his game.”



Then, after the match, Novak is asked about his "16 injuries" and he says Roddick implied that he is faking them and that is not done at all. He also says he really doesn't expect any support from the crowd. And leaves on a defiant note.
 

teamusa

Rookie
I think it was complete crap that the crowd starting booing Novak in his post-match interview on court after beating Andy. Yeah, some things he said were not the most positive toward Andy, but who's to say Andy wouldn't have made a similar comment if he had won?
I also think it's a bit ironic in a way. The crowd is booing Novak for saying "disrespectful" things about Andy after the match. Yet the crowd (granted, not everyone) is blatently disrespectful (no quotations needed this time) DURING that match by shouting during play, when someone serves, after a double fault, etc.
It's just a weak effort on their part to accuse someone of something that wasn't even all that bad AFTER the match has been played and won, when they commit to far worse affairs at worse times.
Just my opinion there.
 

Safinator_1

Professional
Well... i guess he had it coming especially from the fans at Flushing Meadows. Oh well he should be used to dealing with bad press by now :p
 

soggyramen

Professional
so the crowd yelled while djokovic was playing...so what! it happens in all sports...he needs to sit back and deal with it like other players have. he needs to stop whining. i hate roddick and you can tell roddick was just joking around. novak tells the crowd "still that's not nice to say" though djokovic impersonated andy before. roddick could have said that's not nice to do. it's like the boy who cried wolf...except the boy is a tennis player. he needs to learn to take it. i started to really like novak a lot around this time last year cuz he was playing great and didn't act like a total jerk but now it's like he has no class. this will probably be the only time i stick by roddick.
 

Emimem

Rookie
That"s what i like about Joker, he is vilan in tennis.It" kinda interesting with superheroes who are Rafa and Fed .
 

TennisBatman

Semi-Pro
so the crowd yelled while djokovic was playing...so what! it happens in all sports...he needs to sit back and deal with it like other players have. he needs to stop whining. i hate roddick and you can tell roddick was just joking around. novak tells the crowd "still that's not nice to say" though djokovic impersonated andy before. roddick could have said that's not nice to do. it's like the boy who cried wolf...except the boy is a tennis player. he needs to learn to take it. i started to really like novak a lot around this time last year cuz he was playing great and didn't act like a total jerk but now it's like he has no class. this will probably be the only time i stick by roddick.

Deal with it he did...and with expert success in the end.

The crowd was adamantly against Djokovic in that match and badly wanted Roddick to win. Even after the match, they were loathe to accept that the better guy won.

So I really have to take my hat off to Djokovic for going through that immature nonsense from Roddick and the crowd...he really gave it to them in the end.
 

janipyt05

Professional
Roddick was just joking around, Novak of all people should be able to see that, i saw a clip of the interview Novak did say he know Andy meant nothing by it so i don't see what the problem is, i fugure in the on court interview Novak didn't know how to express that and it may have come out wrong and the crowd miss understood.
 

cknobman

Legend
That"s what i like about Joker, he is vilan in tennis.It" kinda interesting with superheroes who are Rafa and Fed .

Your right he is kind of a tennis "villan" per se. LOL never thought of it that way.

Even if some find him annoying and full of it I think he is doing more good than harm for the sport.

I mean hes made the top of tennis a 3 way fight instead of just a 2 man beatdown on the rest of tennis.
He's brought tons of good and bad publicity to himself which in turn brings publicity to tennis.
Hes not just a flash in the pan player who performs bright for a tournament or two and then quickly fades to nothing(Nalby).

I hate him but love him at the same time. I cheer for him to win in the lower rounds but love to root against him when playing Nadal and Fed. I hate to miss his matches because its almost a guarantee something interesting will happen whether it be the crowd booing, Novaks crazy family, Novak calling for the trainer umpteen times, retiring from the match for "medical reasons" aka. getting a beatdown, etc.....

I say keep up the good work Joker!!
 

Topaz

Legend
Deal with it he did...and with expert success in the end.

The crowd was adamantly against Djokovic in that match and badly wanted Roddick to win. Even after the match, they were loathe to accept that the better guy won.

So I really have to take my hat off to Djokovic for going through that immature nonsense from Roddick and the crowd...he really gave it to them in the end.

Agree!

Nole let his racquet do the talking...a lesson RodDICK evidently needs to learn. IMO, Andy is the one looking like the jerk. He trash talked, and then didn't back it up. Nole had no comments until after the match.


Roddick was just joking around, Novak of all people should be able to see that, i saw a clip of the interview Novak did say he know Andy meant nothing by it so i don't see what the problem is, i fugure in the on court interview Novak didn't know how to express that and it may have come out wrong and the crowd miss understood.

Roddick was being a jerk. Yeah, he says he is joking now that he got beat...gotta go back and cover his arse.
 

janipyt05

Professional
Oh well Topaz, i gave him the benefit of doubt but i guess he was being a jerk as you say and losing can make one back peddle real fast.
 
Agree!

Nole let his racquet do the talking...a lesson RodDICK evidently needs to learn. IMO, Andy is the one looking like the jerk. He trash talked, and then didn't back it up. Nole had no comments until after the match.




Roddick was being a jerk. Yeah, he says he is joking now that he got beat...gotta go back and cover his arse.

If Novak let "his racquet do the talking", he would've just won the match and not have said anything stupid afterwards..but he obviously didnt do that
 

Topaz

Legend
Oh well Topaz, i gave him the benefit of doubt but i guess he was being a jerk as you say and losing can make one back peddle real fast.

I think one always has to be real careful when trash talking *before* the event...especially when they are not the favorite to win! Egg on face!

If Novak let "his racquet do the talking", he would've just won the match and not have said anything stupid afterwards..but he obviously didnt do that

Well, at least he said his stupid stuff *after* he won the match, and not before like Roddick...who IMO (and we are all entitled to our own) looks like the bigger doofus. I think Nole was wise not to address the comments before the match.
 

CGMemphis

Rookie
Roddick is a cocky arrogant punk. You guys act like this is Andys first clown around rodeo with his comments.

One day he interviews great, next he is spouting off.

Watch, his next interview he will be all class. Then the next he will slip back to being a jerk.
 

coolblue123

Hall of Fame
What Novak did was unacceptable. I think he tried to take it out on the crowd for statements by andy. It's like blaming all Germans for WWII war crimes. Plus, you should never spill bad blood on other ppl's houses (like andy in NYC), that'll just earn you a riot in your name...

Utterly senseless and classless. What he needs is a bagel from Fed tomorrow. That'll quiet him down! It's fall, and I know what to do with all my rotten tomatoes...
 
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tennis-hero

Banned
you dont go to someone elses house and trash talk them in front of their friends, they will obviously boo you since they support him

novak should really learn to keep his mouth shut, we all know how americans are, give them a flag and they all start singing their national anthem in unison.... its just something unique to the americans... its better to remain quiet and let your tennis skills to the talking
 

IvanYentl

Rookie
Agree!

Nole let his racquet do the talking...a lesson RodDICK evidently needs to learn. IMO, Andy is the one looking like the jerk. He trash talked, and then didn't back it up. Nole had no comments until after the match.




Roddick was being a jerk. Yeah, he says he is joking now that he got beat...gotta go back and cover his arse.


It's so fascinating to me how A-Nole supporters are rushing to his defense as if he were not relying on huge doses of gamesmanship to increase his chances of winning matches. Robredo was right on: A-Nole is taking advantage, calling for injury breaks when he's not injured, in order to disrupt the flow of the match in a way that benefits him. If he were truly suffering from the laundry list of ailments that arose during the Robredo match (including a hip problem??), do you think he'd really be able to turn around and perform two days later without a single health-related complaint? The guy is a punk, everything he and his steely-eyed, pinch-mouthed parents say and do is bad for tennis. As always at this stage of major tournaments that feature A-Nole in the semifinals, I look forward to him suffering a major beatdown before he gets the chance to raise the championship trophy.
 

rev200g

Rookie
Although I don't want to get into who is right or wrong in terms of etiquette, I must admit that this kind of "friction" really makes tennis much more interesting. We need more "personalities" in this sport to invigorate and grow our sport.

I started playing tennis in 1980 and rivalries such as Connors-Borg, McEnroe-Borg, etc. added a lot of spice to the sport.

Just my 2 cents! Cheers!:)
 

MajinX

Professional
Roddick is a cocky arrogant punk. You guys act like this is Andys first clown around rodeo with his comments.

One day he interviews great, next he is spouting off.

Watch, his next interview he will be all class. Then the next he will slip back to being a jerk.

it is because it is not his fist time clowning around that we know he is just joking, show me a clip where andy was joking but really meant it seriously and was directly attacking the other person, it is andy to make sarcastic comments.

honestly i too dont believe in novaks injuries just because he never calls them when hes winning, and he looked fine yesterday when beating roddick. no lost of speed or balance from hip/ankle problem. In fact it looked like roddick was injured the crappy way he started the match with more double faults than aces. I mean RODDICK WITH MORE DOUBLE FAULTS THAN ACES for a good third of the match.
 

daddy

Legend
Djokovic = master of bouncing delays and master of faking delays? Sad that such a guy is #3.

He won vs former nr1 and a slam champ pretty easy and not to mention that he did it in 140min in the middle of NYC where everyone was rooting for their hero and hc is his most prefered surface - without taking any time more than allowed. What more do you want ? Tennis and the quality of it is what determines the raking and not some subjective thoughts of biased internet warriors. Thanks.
 

daddy

Legend
Roddick was just joking around, Novak of all people should be able to see that, i saw a clip of the interview Novak did say he know Andy meant nothing by it so i don't see what the problem is, i fugure in the on court interview Novak didn't know how to express that and it may have come out wrong and the crowd miss understood.

I think they met ( unofficialy ) after the match and talked for a while and straightened things out. Ill look for links or scan papers when I find them, but this was mentioned in news here.
 

gflyer

Professional
Do you think Rog or Rafa would have ever talked like that after winning a QF at the US Open? That's why I love them and totally dislike Novak (and his comments). Andy is a jerk, we all know but Novak is not any smarter.
After the Australian Open Novak has totally changed his attitude. I used to like him but now I really cannot stand him. Sorry.
But I have to admit, his tennis is great.
 

daddy

Legend
It's so fascinating to me how A-Nole supporters are rushing to his defense as if he were not relying on huge doses of gamesmanship to increase his chances of winning matches. Robredo was right on: A-Nole is taking advantage, calling for injury breaks when he's not injured, in order to disrupt the flow of the match in a way that benefits him. If he were truly suffering from the laundry list of ailments that arose during the Robredo match (including a hip problem??), do you think he'd really be able to turn around and perform two days later without a single health-related complaint? The guy is a punk, everything he and his steely-eyed, pinch-mouthed parents say and do is bad for tennis. As always at this stage of major tournaments that feature A-Nole in the semifinals, I look forward to him suffering a major beatdown before he gets the chance to raise the championship trophy.


Robredo had not ONE legit reason to criticize nole yet he did. I am not rushing into his defense but let me tell you, you lead 3-0 in a set and tae a massage ? Whats wrong with that ? You injure a leg ( slow mo showed that this clearly happened and we all know this is something he did in the first round as well ) and of course - theres a rule that says you can treat it for three minutes, and he did.

I am asking for one, but one LEGIT complaint about the Robredo match and Ill accept the criticizm. ONLY ONE
 

daddy

Legend
Do you think Rog or Rafa would have ever talked like that after winning a QF at the US Open? That's why I love them and totally dislike Novak (and his comments). Andy is a jerk, we all know but Novak is not any smarter.
After the Australian Open Novak has totally changed his attitude. I used to like him but now I really cannot stand him. Sorry.
But I have to admit, his tennis is great.


In a match in Hamburg Rafa took a med timeout to REGROUP, but let me say again to REGROUP !!! Is that a legit thing to do ? No. Is there a rule that allows him to do that ? Yes . So, where is the criticizm about that one particular incident ? And what abour Rog criticizing Rafa several times for taking too long and not being penalised through the 2006 season ?

How quickly do people forget things ...
 

hector

Rookie
The same American fans who make a big deal about Djokovic taking many many injury time outs are the same fans who treat Mcenroe like a god. Is complaning about calls and having tantrums not about stalling and changing momentum?

Part of tennis and all sports is dealing with pressure and the psycological tricks that opponents like to pull. Djokovic is within the rules so I have no problem with it.

Roddick made a calculated bet that by making fun of Djokovic he would embaress Djokovic and thus not use them. unfortunatly for Roddick it backfired and Djokovic was fired up. personaly, I think it would have been funny if Djokovic had called a trainer before serving for the match.


Roddick would pull the same tricks if it would help him win another slam and Americans would love him for it.
 
robredo is right, if u aint fit enough, QUIT, i think medical time outs should only be given to a player once for only 3-5 minutes then thats it, if u badly need another one, u gotta quit.
 
The same American fans who make a big deal about Djokovic taking many many injury time outs are the same fans who treat Mcenroe like a god. Is complaning about calls and having tantrums not about stalling and changing momentum?

Part of tennis and all sports is dealing with pressure and the psycological tricks that opponents like to pull. Djokovic is within the rules so I have no problem with it.

Roddick made a calculated bet that by making fun of Djokovic he would embaress Djokovic and thus not use them. unfortunatly for Roddick it backfired and Djokovic was fired up. personaly, I think it would have been funny if Djokovic had called a trainer before serving for the match.


Roddick would pull the same tricks if it would help him win another slam and Americans would love him for it.

Well, the thing is, I think that Djokovic generally wants to be a liked player, by the fans at least, but he seems to say and do such dumb things that suggest otherwise..

McEnroe, well, I don't think he gives a crap what others think about him...
 

daddy

Legend
Well, the thing is, I think that Djokovic generally wants to be a liked player, by the fans at least, but he seems to say and do such dumb things that suggest otherwise..

McEnroe, well, I don't think he gives a crap what others think about him...

Mac is US guy. Hes an icon worldwide. Novak is well liked here, there's like whole region cheering for him and treating him like a legend. I seem to recall Nestor who said that Zimonjic is treated like a royalty back home and that he like a career doubles slam winner almost gets no attention in Canada, just goes to show that we like our sportist here cause were tiny tiny country with just several world class guys like him ..
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
The same American fans who make a big deal about Djokovic taking many many injury time outs are the same fans who treat Mcenroe like a god. Is complaning about calls and having tantrums not about stalling and changing momentum?

I have always felt that if JMac was not an American, his popularity (worldwide) would be really low. He would just never have been allowed to get away with the sort of thing he did. On the other hand, he was also liked and respected outside the US, so there must be something flawed in my logic.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Everything cool now

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news;_ylt=AiqPL***qEAJf4M5zBTGvXA4v7YF?slug=ap-usopen&prov=ap&type=lgns

Roddick sought to smooth things over with Djokovic on Thursday.

“It was completely meant in jest,” Roddick said, pausing to choose the right words. “I should know better. But listen, I joke all the time. I don’t think anyone in their right mind takes me serious.”

The players spoke privately—and said they would keep the conversation private. Both were contrite afterward.

“He made a joke and it was a misunderstanding, so I don’t blame it on him,” Djokovic said, after getting nearly an hour to consider his on-court statements. “Maybe I exaggerated and reacted bad in that moment. I apologize.”
 
I think people hate roddick because his novelty is wearing away--his big serve is being countered and people dont like it--But the reality is that Roddick lives and dies by that serve and if he doesnt serve well then people begin to turn their heads towards other players
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Say what you will, Roddick's serve, forehands, and some of those DTL backhands were exquisite. Do you know how much action was on those balls? If he had not double-faulted twice in a row, the story might have been quite different.
 

daddy

Legend
Say what you will, Roddick's serve, forehands, and some of those DTL backhands were exquisite. Do you know how much action was on those balls? If he had not double-faulted twice in a row, the story might have been quite different.

But he did, period. If the bad call made aginst Nalby at uso was good hed won a match and may be a slam winner in the last past six years. Tuff call, he's not .. Face it, thats life.
 

Andyk028

Professional
I think people hate roddick because his novelty is wearing away--his big serve is being countered and people dont like it--But the reality is that Roddick lives and dies by that serve and if he doesnt serve well then people begin to turn their heads towards other players

Very good point.

I think both players were wrong in what they said..but Roddick did spark the flame. If A-rod hadnt said..."There's just a lot. You know, he's either quick to call a trainer or he's the most courageous guy of all time. I think it's up for you guys to decide." ...I believe Novak wouldnt have been so quick to fire back.
 
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