Crie
Rookie
twistweight much
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Crie
Rookie
Yes it matters. Leather grip adds 20-28 grams to the handle. Lowers balance point and speeds up racquet through contact. Overgrips are much lighter, I would say 5 grams on average.
Yes you will have to factor in the amount of weight the leather grip will add to the racquet. The presets are unstrung specs.
DJ-
Hall of Fame
The only thing that matters is how you like the feel of leather or synthetic. When you order the frame regardless of what grip you choose Paul will ensure you end up with desired specs. The overgrip will affect balance by a little on any racquet. Not much to worry about
CopolyX
Hall of Fame
So many great choices out there, we are lucky.
Hope you find what works best for you.
Takes time, effort and $$...
But it is all worth it..
I wait for no frame...
past and present, again lots of great options..
Frames are not like cell /smart phones...
CopolyX
Hall of Fame
that's just the fun and art of tail-weighting .................
DJ-
Hall of Fame
Yep perfect way to add weight evenly and make it more HL I did it with a blade 18x20 also and worked good. I think many are still confused about what specs to order in regards to the grip, I was also confused until I had it confirmed that whatever specs you order is what you will get regardless of grip type
zalive
Hall of Fame
I just love it how in the US you're man enough to shoot a rifle in a hunt (under a surveillance of an adult, but it's still shooting a firearm which is a danger), but not to shoot your d*ck to an adult woman without it being qualified a rape of you
I guess guns just require less brains than a d*ck?
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CopolyX
Hall of Fame
no clue what you mean.....
zalive
Hall of Fame
You meant strung?
nikkhasnis
Rookie
If the price wasn't so high or there was a return policy, I would have long time ago.
I hit with the PS97 non RF version and liked it a lot.
How would the TC97 16x18 compare against the PS97 non RF version on below point
Lets say the PS97 is a 0 on all, the the TC97 can + or -
eg if the TC is twice as powerful as PS97, Power = 2. If PS97 has twice as much power, the Power = -2.
Power
Comfort
Touch/Feel
Serves
Groundstrokes
Returns
Slice
Topspin
Volleys
topspn
Legend
Sounds like you quit playing for a year. Maybe get back into the game before you change racquets But yes, TC100 will hit a heavier ball and accuracy is good
Isn't the cost of these Angell rackets similar to any other racket you'd buy?
nikkhasnis
Rookie
Any coupons for Angell out there? While ordering there's an option to enter coupon.
nikkhasnis
Rookie
It is close if you buy the new latest racket, which I don't.
The cost of the racket is around 185USD. All online retails will ship for free at that price. There's an additional $30 shipping charge with Angell.
CopolyX
Hall of Fame
nikkhasnis
Rookie
Cart is set with
Custom TC97 - 16 x 19
String Pattern : 16 x 19
Stiffness : 66 RA
Length : 27
Bumper Grommets : Black
Weight / Balance : 320g(11.4oz) / 310mm(10ptsHL)
Grip Size : L3 - 4 3/8
Handle Shape : B ( Standard)
Grip Type : Tan Leather
Need a divine sign to hit order.
I have asked Paul what the SW of this congif will be. I want somewhere between 310 to 315.
Custom TC97 - 16 x 19
String Pattern : 16 x 19
Stiffness : 66 RA
Length : 27
Bumper Grommets : Black
Weight / Balance : 320g(11.4oz) / 310mm(10ptsHL)
Grip Size : L3 - 4 3/8
Handle Shape : B ( Standard)
Grip Type : Tan Leather
Need a divine sign to hit order.
I have asked Paul what the SW of this congif will be. I want somewhere between 310 to 315.
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Hard to say like that...
I found the TC 97 had better feel, it was more forgiving, more comfortable, more predictable/controllable, and generally more versatile. The PS 97 feels noticeably crisper and has a livelier feel. It's more suitable to a modern tennis style with whippy strokes, while the TC 97 is a complete all rounder.
Backhanded Compliment
Legend
cant really say since I havent hit with either but one huge plus with angell is you can get another identical one 5 or more years later, hard to do with companies that are constantly changing their "technology"
Shangri La
Hall of Fame
Received my TC97 16x19 and TC100 70RA!!
Unstrung specs
- TC97 310g/315mm, 292 sw
- TC100 310g/315mm, 292 sw
Strung specs
- TC97 Pacific gut/Silverstring 52/48, Volkl leather/overgrip, 11.9 oz, 320 sw.
- TC100 Silverstring 44/44, Volkl leather/overgrip, 11.9 oz, 321 sw
The 97 had 'pro' on it because that's the decal Paul had in stock and he said the construction is the same as 'custom'.
Had a very brief hit with the racquets. Just for reference, my all-time favorite racquets are Prince Graphite 100 standard length, Dunlop Bio 200G Max (more of a 300 variant), and IG Prestige Mid. The 97 was exactly what I expected - a traditional racquet in a forgiving package (power/maneuverability/sweetspot size) It played so natural to me that I needed little adjustment. 1hbh was made easy. The TC100 in comparison felt a bit metalic and didn't have as sweet a ball feel which I think was not just a result of different strings. Surprisingly the 2 racquets felt about the same in terms of stability and power (maybe even slight edge to the 97), but I think it was because the 97 swung so natural to me while the 100 needed me to adjust to it. Early impressions are I had hight expectations for both and the 97 totally delivered while the 100 will need some time for me to figure out. I was also going to order the TC97 18x20 as collection since it's supposed to be the closest thing to PT280 available, but for now the 97 and 100 will keep me busy.
Unstrung specs
- TC97 310g/315mm, 292 sw
- TC100 310g/315mm, 292 sw
Strung specs
- TC97 Pacific gut/Silverstring 52/48, Volkl leather/overgrip, 11.9 oz, 320 sw.
- TC100 Silverstring 44/44, Volkl leather/overgrip, 11.9 oz, 321 sw
The 97 had 'pro' on it because that's the decal Paul had in stock and he said the construction is the same as 'custom'.
Had a very brief hit with the racquets. Just for reference, my all-time favorite racquets are Prince Graphite 100 standard length, Dunlop Bio 200G Max (more of a 300 variant), and IG Prestige Mid. The 97 was exactly what I expected - a traditional racquet in a forgiving package (power/maneuverability/sweetspot size) It played so natural to me that I needed little adjustment. 1hbh was made easy. The TC100 in comparison felt a bit metalic and didn't have as sweet a ball feel which I think was not just a result of different strings. Surprisingly the 2 racquets felt about the same in terms of stability and power (maybe even slight edge to the 97), but I think it was because the 97 swung so natural to me while the 100 needed me to adjust to it. Early impressions are I had hight expectations for both and the 97 totally delivered while the 100 will need some time for me to figure out. I was also going to order the TC97 18x20 as collection since it's supposed to be the closest thing to PT280 available, but for now the 97 and 100 will keep me busy.
nikkhasnis
Rookie
OK, pulled the trigger and ordered one.
Now I am expecting my game to go up at least 1 USTA level up
Now I am expecting my game to go up at least 1 USTA level up
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
OK, pulled the trigger and ordered one.
Now I am expecting my game to go up at least 1 USTA level up
Which one?
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
Received my TC97 16x19 and TC100 70RA!!
Unstrung specs
- TC97 310g/315mm, 292 sw
- TC100 310g/315mm, 292 sw
Strung specs
- TC97 Pacific gut/Silverstring 52/48, Volkl leather/overgrip, 11.9 oz, 320 sw.
- TC100 Silverstring 44/44, Volkl leather/overgrip, 11.9 oz, 321 sw
The 97 had 'pro' on it because that's the decal Paul had in stock and he said the construction is the same as 'custom'.
Had a very brief hit with the racquets. Just for reference, my all-time favorite racquets are Prince Graphite 100 standard length, Dunlop Bio 200G Max (more of a 300 variant), and IG Prestige Mid. The 97 was exactly what I expected - a traditional racquet in a forgiving package (power/maneuverability/sweetspot size) It played so natural to me that I needed little adjustment. 1hbh was made easy. The TC100 in comparison felt a bit metalic and didn't have as sweet a ball feel which I think was not just a result of different strings. Surprisingly the 2 racquets felt about the same in terms of stability and power (maybe even slight edge to the 97), but I think it was because the 97 swung so natural to me while the 100 needed me to adjust to it. Early impressions are I had hight expectations for both and the 97 totally delivered while the 100 will need some time for me to figure out. I was also going to order the TC97 18x20 as collection since it's supposed to be the closest thing to PT280 available, but for now the 97 and 100 will keep me busy.
As you know I am also a huge PCG100 fan. IMO my TC100 plays as close to the PCG100 as I've found, except with more power.
nikkhasnis
Rookie
String Pattern: 16 x 19
Stiffness: 66 RA
Length: 27
Bumper Grommets: Black
Weight / Balance: 320g(11.4oz) / 310mm(10ptsHL)
Grip Size: L3 - 4 3/8
Handle Shape: B
Grip Type: Tan Leather
I have sent an email to the id listed on site to know the swing weight. Hope they reply.
CopolyX
Hall of Fame
have not meet an "angell" I have not liked.
but for me and my game, the tc 97 custom has been great.
both my son and I prefer the 18 x 20..
my daughter like the tc100's
the wife, is a pro staffer..97
does not matter what frame you select to use!
as long as it is the best you and your game...
pick it for the right reasons....
but for me and my game, the tc 97 custom has been great.
both my son and I prefer the 18 x 20..
my daughter like the tc100's
the wife, is a pro staffer..97
does not matter what frame you select to use!
as long as it is the best you and your game...
pick it for the right reasons....
Received my TC97 16x19 and TC100 70RA!!
I'm having an OCD moment over those overgrips....
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Thank ****ing God I'm not alone!
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
Nice, enjoy! Send them a message on Facebook too, they respond faster there. I think it's Paul talking directly too.
Shangri La
Hall of Fame
Lol, what's wrong with the overgrips.
If you have to ask...
I don't think you can get a TC97 with a strung SW in the 310-315 ballpark...
My 3 tc97 (2 custom, 1 pro) are 325-330 (1.25 copoly)
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tribesmen
Professional
IMHO racquets don't have a launch angle themselves, but it depends on how you hitting the ball. You can hit flat all day with TC95 16x19 if you want although it has very open string pattern and you can hit nasty spins above the net if you are capable to rotate the ball. The layup and overall quality is more important how the racquet reacts in contact with the ball than string pattern.
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Backhanded Compliment
Legend
Yeah the Tc95 is really nothing like a pure drive... it can hit flat shots all day long if you want but the spin potential is similar to the babolats if you hit it right. Here's the caveat, its not a tweener and the swingweight is healthy it means you have to be able to feel comfortable with that swingweight to unlock that kind of spin... its not like a pure drive where you can just flick it. It requires the whole kinetic chain. The people who have problems with launch angle are actually having a problem with deploying their kinetic chain in the right sequence.
It has power to burn if you are set up... but if the kinetic chain isnt deployed correctly its just going to spray the ball long. That's not launch angle... that the way spin has to be unlocked with that frame.
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Shangri La
Hall of Fame
Are the overgrips not fitting the grip flaring part not very well and that's what's bothering lol? The Volkl grips weren't very stretchy and I didn't pull them too tight as that will make them last not as long. When griping leathers, I did pull them really tight and made sure they fit snug on the grip.
zalive
Hall of Fame
CopolyX
Hall of Fame
But I Guess ....Which is not that hard to think of, on days when you played like sh*t...
nikkhasnis
Rookie
What about the TC97? Is it good for flat shots as well or do you need to put a lot of spin to keep the ball in?
The weight in the head is the same. The balance point moves depending on where he puts the lead in the handle.
Tennisist
Professional
I believe that's the most head-light option available. The most head-light is needed because Prestige Pro is quite whippy and fast through the air, but TC 97 is not. It has weight in the head.
But the swingweight is still about 330 he said. I thought that head light meant lighter swingweight? The Prestige Pro I have is 330g and 6 points HL.