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[Paulo Braz]

And what about the feel between the K7 and PT630? Does the K7 Lime have a similar feel as it has a graphite/kevlar (ie. twaron) composition like the PT630?

The feel is different. Also because the frame is different.

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[Paulo Braz]

That is what I am using (almost exactly) at the moment. Head RIP Control 1.20 and MSV CoFocus 1.18 at a tension of 24/22 kg. Feels right to me. No problems with generating spin. Maybe a little crisper string as the Head RIP Control will give a little bit crisper feel. Maybe I'll try a full CoFocus stringbed next time.

Got it. It's a good setup.

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[haqq777]

For multi users, has anyone tried RS New York in any of their Angells? Came across it after a friend just gave me a few sets. I don't use multifilament a whole lot and wondering about feedback and tension settings.

 

[Faris]

For multi users, has anyone tried RS New York in any of their Angells? Came across it after a friend just gave me a few sets. I don't use multifilament a whole lot and wondering about feedback and tension settings.

I have played with it...its a decent multi but very expensive and not worth it in my book. Stinks a lot out of the package, more than any other multi I have strung up & looks like natural gut. Nowhere near tension maintenance like they advertised it to be. And it frayed so much faster for me than VS or even newer Luxilon gut. I know you are a RS Lyon fan but don't go in with this multi with RS Lyon like expectations. Its a very ordinary multi with gut like price. I'd use it up and move to better options...

 

[4-string]

Had a really nice first hit with the TC95 today.

Very nice indeed, more difference in feel from V2 than expected. Which to me is a huge plus. [emoji1303]But I suspect some of that might be because of different grip shapes, I never warmed up to the B grip on my previous Angell. This one is perfect, C.

I added 3g of lead a little above 3&9 respectively, which is what I ended up with the last time.

I got a couple of unexpected aces today, simply because the returner wasn’t able to read the spin and action on the ball. Which makes two of us I’ll have to admit, because I just don’t quite understand where all that action comes from. [emoji16][emoji6]Anyway, very fun and addictive.

Not quite on par with my 93p in terms of feel and control, but that was expected. I think the TC95 will be perfect come outdoor clay season.

 

[Paulo Braz]

Had a really nice first hit with the TC95 today.

Very nice indeed, more difference in feel from V2 than expected. Which to me is a huge plus. [emoji1303]But I suspect some of that might be because of different grip shapes, I never warmed up to the B grip on my previous Angell. This one is perfect, C.

I added 3g of lead a little above 3&9 respectively, which is what I ended up with the last time.

I got a couple of unexpected aces today, simply because the returner wasn’t able to read the spin and action on the ball. Which makes two of us I’ll have to admit, because I just don’t quite understand where all that action comes from. [emoji16][emoji6]Anyway, very fun and addictive.

Not quite on par with my 93p in terms of feel and control, but that was expected. I think the TC95 will be perfect come outdoor clay season.

There is a difference in feel between v2 and V3. V3 is much more solid than v2 and with less vibrations.

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[4-string]

There is a difference in feel between v2 and V3. V3 is much more solid than v2 and with less vibrations.

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Yes, that was exactly my impression as well. [emoji1303]

 

[haqq777]

I have played with it...its a decent multi but very expensive and not worth it in my book. Stinks a lot out of the package, more than any other multi I have strung up & looks like natural gut. Nowhere near tension maintenance like they advertised it to be. And it frayed so much faster for me than VS or even newer Luxilon gut. I know you are a RS Lyon fan but don't go in with this multi with RS Lyon like expectations. Its a very ordinary multi with gut like price. I'd use it up and move to better options...

Thanks, Faris

 

[Paulo Braz]

Had a really nice first hit with the TC95 today.

Very nice indeed, more difference in feel from V2 than expected. Which to me is a huge plus. [emoji1303]But I suspect some of that might be because of different grip shapes, I never warmed up to the B grip on my previous Angell. This one is perfect, C.

I added 3g of lead a little above 3&9 respectively, which is what I ended up with the last time.

I got a couple of unexpected aces today, simply because the returner wasn’t able to read the spin and action on the ball. Which makes two of us I’ll have to admit, because I just don’t quite understand where all that action comes from. [emoji16][emoji6]Anyway, very fun and addictive.

Not quite on par with my 93p in terms of feel and control, but that was expected. I think the TC95 will be perfect come outdoor clay season.

What is the swing weight of your tc95? She is what version and RA?

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[4-string]

Heaviest and most hl option, 63ra and standard length.

 

[redmini]

...?. Gotta say, regardless of lines (TC95, TC97, TC100, K7), Angells sell like hot cakes...."

Is that just the case in the USA or do they sell like hot cakes in UK / Europe too? (Not sure where you are)





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[redmini]

Ok, hold on before you sell, let me ask a couple of friends if anyone is interested. Bty, even though I’m totally happy with my TC95s and zero desire to change, I purchased a K7 red to have in my bag

Will it be a new K7 red ...or did you buy back one of your old ones?
... Deja vu .....


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[topspn]

Will it be a new K7 red ...or did you buy back one of your old ones?
... Deja vu .....


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I got a new one after feedback that it is not as super flexy as early batches. I hit with it today and played quite nice. Once thing no one will argue over is the feel is sublime no matter if the playability clicks with our particular style of play or not.

 

[haqq777]

Is that just the case in the USA or do they sell like hot cakes in UK / Europe too? (Not sure where you are)

I'm in the US but I know of friends who have sold Angells in UK/Europe with relative ease as well. I have personally sold over half a dozen of my Angells here on TW 'For Sale' section without any fuss.

 

[haqq777]

I got a new one after feedback that it is not as super flexy as early batches. I hit with it today and played quite nice. Once thing no one will argue over is the feel is sublime no matter if the playability clicks with our particular style of play or not.

Indeed. So is there a clear difference in RA then?

 

[Caol-ila]

I think so. Almost one year ago I purchased a new K7 red, then two weeks ago I got an older one, used, from the first batch. I found it quite different, quite softer. I did not like that a lot, I already exchanged it for another racquet.
By the way, now I would like to try the K7 Lime, if someone wants to get rid of it
I am interested.

 

[topspn]

Indeed. So is there a clear difference in RA then?

While it is still flexy (i think a bit more in the throat compared to TC95) but there is a difference and it hit with authority today completely stock. A buddy of mine also purchased a K7 red at the same time and we were both hitting today. Mine strung with BK @50lbs and his strung with black code 4S @50lbs. My stringed played a bit softer with good control and his played a bit more crisp and had a bit more pop. My TC95s do play a bit firmer but the K7 did not feel as pillowy as those first ones.

Btw, how are you liking BK so far?

 

[skeeter]

Been playing around with the handle weights in my TC100 for the past weeks. I had been playing with it at around 330 grams total weight (plus or minus 6-7) and about 6-7 pts HL for months but was not really feelin it. I haven't really been happy as if felt sluggish and I had trouble "feeling the head" as I prefer. So I removed the weight near the 7 inch mark and the 2nd weight up from the butt, only handle weight left is the one nearest the butt. Then I added about 5-6 grams of lead tape where I removed the lower weight. Now it weights 315 grams total and is 4.5 pts HL. Have played and hit with it twice and I gotta say this is the best "version" of this frame I have yet hit with, my racket head speed has picked up significantly adding spin and control and frankly I haven't noticed any significant lack of "plow or stability". My hitting partner said my ball speed and spin was noticeably increased, volleys felt better and serve was similar. Frankly if felt a bit more like a TC95 as I could feel the head more and really "whip" the frame more which suits my style of play more. Slice BH remained very good as it excels IMO with the frame. I have to say I love the ability to tweek a frame like this, I'll give it a few more weeks and see if the "bliss" lasts...

Interesting stuff. Which version (V2 or V3) are you playing with? Been thinking about tinkering with the weights in my V3100 as well for some of the same reasons you note. Are you using any lead as well?

 

[redmini]

I'm in the US but I know of friends who have sold Angells in UK/Europe with relative ease as well. I have personally sold over half a dozen of my Angells here on TW 'For Sale' section without any fuss.

Good to know. Thanks!


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[haqq777]

While it is still flexy (i think a bit more in the throat compared to TC95) but there is a difference and it hit with authority today completely stock. A buddy of mine also purchased a K7 red at the same time and we were both hitting today. Mine strung with BK @50lbs and his strung with black code 4S @50lbs. My stringed played a bit softer with good control and his played a bit more crisp and had a bit more pop. My TC95s do play a bit firmer but the K7 did not feel as pillowy as those first ones.

Btw, how are you liking BK so far?

Yeah, I had a sneaking suspicion that newer batches weren't as pillowy as the original couple batches. Did you feel any change in comfort? My K7 Red was second batch and it was easily the most softest playing Angell I had ever hit with. I wonder how upping the RA changed that aspect? I have no doubt it would definitely make it a more authoritative stick.

And yes, BK 1.23 is strung up and ready in one of my TC97. Just need to take it to the courts (probably tomorrow since I couldn't find anyone to hit with today).

 

[topspn]

@haqq777 it is still very comfortable and more flexy then TC95. I just added a leather grip and hit with it this morning. I am not going to complain about power but when my hitting partner went for his heaviest hits, K7 was getting pushed back. I switch to my TC95 and it hits back no problem. I’m adding weight to the head and @ 7”. K7 is still the Angell standard on comfort

 

[Carreau]

Have strung and tried BK 1.23 today. During stringing it felt stiffer and more like 1.25 gauge. I strung my TC100 using Sergetti at 21.5 kg. Good string, I liked it a lot, however, a bit more power than I expected. So, I think 1.23 at 22.5 kg or 1.28 gauge at 21.5 kg would be better.
I definately like it more than Lyon, HyperG. However, Black Code and UC has more control and I'm able to hit flatter with UC. I will try BK at 22.5 kg, it shall give me more control.

 

[Gee]

@haqq777 it is still very comfortable and more flexy then TC95. I just added a leather grip and hit with it this morning. I am not going to complain about power but when my hitting partner went for his heaviest hits, K7 was getting pushed back. I switch to my TC95 and it hits back no problem. I’m adding weight to the head and @ 7”. K7 is still the Angell standard on comfort

Yeah,...The K7 needs some lead (see picture below).

I already added lead from 8-10 and 2-4 and leather grip + overgrip. Last Thursday during my practice training I felt it is still too maneuverable to me. That's why I added a (second) dampener of 3 grams above the top cross string (for the time being). Still very maneuverable and more plow through but not yet as authoritive as my TC95.

Tonight I added 4 grams of lead from 10-2 (with a gap between the middle strings for the stringer) and removed the dampener from the tip.

@topspn What is the effect of adding weight at 7" exactly? More headlight and stability? Maybe I add some lead at 7" as well. I only don't know exactly how much.

 

[haqq777]

@haqq777 it is still very comfortable and more flexy then TC95. I just added a leather grip and hit with it this morning. I am not going to complain about power but when my hitting partner went for his heaviest hits, K7 was getting pushed back. I switch to my TC95 and it hits back no problem. I’m adding weight to the head and @ 7”. K7 is still the Angell standard on comfort

Yeah, makes sense. I think you are going to need weight in hoop with K7 Red regardless. Good to know about comfort, the Lime by comparison is comfortable but nowhere near how my Red was so just wondering about newer Reds. Are you sticking with Oehms like you did with your earlier Red?

 

[haqq777]

Have strung and tried BK 1.23 today. During stringing it felt stiffer and more like 1.25 gauge. I strung my TC100 using Sergetti at 21.5 kg. Good string, I liked it a lot, however, a bit more power than I expected. So, I think 1.23 at 22.5 kg or 1.28 gauge at 21.5 kg would be better.
I definately like it more than Lyon, HyperG. However, Black Code and UC has more control and I'm able to hit flatter with UC. I will try BK at 22.5 kg, it shall give me more control.

Curious to know what your views are on Sergetti stringing in general? Did you notice a difference in stringbed feedback because of proportional stringing? I never warmed up to it, personally (and being ridiculously expensive was just one factor). I do notice that a lot of people love it. Just wanted to get your feedback.

 

[Faris]

Yeah, I had a sneaking suspicion that newer batches weren't as pillowy as the original couple batches. Did you feel any change in comfort? My K7 Red was second batch and it was easily the most softest playing Angell I had ever hit with. I wonder how upping the RA changed that aspect? I have no doubt it would definitely make it a more authoritative stick.

And yes, BK 1.23 is strung up and ready in one of my TC97. Just need to take it to the courts (probably tomorrow since I couldn't find anyone to hit with today).

Man..you go all out when you go all out. Even got the latest copper Angell bag... nice! How do u like the bag? I'm in the market for one..

 

[Faris]

Yeah, makes sense. I think you are going to need weight in hoop with K7 Red regardless. Good to know about comfort, the Lime by comparison is comfortable but nowhere near how my Red was so just wondering about newer Reds. Are you sticking with Oehms like you did with your earlier Red?

I have the newer K7 Red and it needs weight for sure...but @topspn is right, it is still pretty damn comfortable (perhaps not AS soft as mid 50s RA ones from earlier but still)..

 

[topspn]

Yeah,...The K7 needs some lead (see picture below).

I already added lead from 8-10 and 2-4 and leather grip + overgrip. Last Thursday during my practice training I felt it is still too maneuverable to me. That's why I added a (second) dampener of 3 grams above the top cross string (for the time being). Still very maneuverable and more plow through but not yet as authoritive as my TC95.

Tonight I added 4 grams of lead from 10-2 (with a gap between the middle strings for the stringer) and removed the dampener from the tip.

@topspn What is the effect of adding weight at 7" exactly? More headlight and stability? Maybe I add some lead at 7" as well. I only don't know exactly how much.

@Gee the 7” location just seems like this spot that smoothes out the swing. It does add to racquets solidity too for me. Try it out, there is no specific amount. Just add 3g or so and add slowly till you feel you got what seems to be a swing that is not slow or fast but just smooth.

 

[topspn]

Yeah, makes sense. I think you are going to need weight in hoop with K7 Red regardless. Good to know about comfort, the Lime by comparison is comfortable but nowhere near how my Red was so just wondering about newer Reds. Are you sticking with Oehms like you did with your earlier Red?

Yeah, I had a couple of Oehms grips and a couple of Angell leather already in my tennis stuff so grabbed an Oehms

 

[haqq777]

Man..you go all out when you go all out. Even got the latest copper Angell bag... nice! How do u like the bag? I'm in the market for one..

Thanks. Yeah, I like it. No complaints. It looks pretty sick paired with V3 Angell PJ too. In fact, that is probably the only reason I am using it at the moment. I have a ton of other bags and build quality for this is not better or worse than any other brand ones.

 

[haqq777]

I have the newer K7 Red and it needs weight for sure...but @topspn is right, it is still pretty damn comfortable (perhaps not AS soft as mid 50s RA ones from earlier but still)..

Great. By the way you told me you will be visiting my neck of the woods soon? Let me know if you are around, I am always up for a hit and lunch/coffee on me afterwards

 

[Faris]

Great. By the way you told me you will be visiting my neck of the woods soon? Let me know if you are around, I am always up for a hit and lunch/coffee on me afterwards

Thanks, sorry hadn't logged in here for a while...sent u pm just now!!

 

[Paulo Braz]

Yeah, I had a couple of Oehms grips and a couple of Angell leather already in my tennis stuff so grabbed an Oehms

What are the specifications of your tc95 16x19 unstrung?

 

[topspn]

What are the specifications of your tc95 16x19 unstrung?

320g/10HL and 2g @2&10

 

[Carreau]

Curious to know what your views are on Sergetti stringing in general? Did you notice a difference in stringbed feedback because of proportional stringing? I never warmed up to it, personally (and being ridiculously expensive was just one factor). I do notice that a lot of people love it. Just wanted to get your feedback.

Yes, difficult question. I have only 4 tension sheets for my TC100 - 21,5 kg type 2 and type 3 strings + 22,5 kg type 2 and type 3 as well. So, it was not that expensive. Moreover, I know that free proportional stringing sheets are available - calculations are required, but I think it is doable. Main disadvantage for me - it takes longer to do a string job.
I noticed that it helped me a lot with my elbow pain in V2 version and sweet zone is a bit bigger. I still need to compare it in V3. I mean, same sticks, same string, same tension, strung at the same time, and payed at the same time - planning to do it in a near future. I expect that both versions/methods will play more or less similar after few hours. And I noticed that it differs a bit depending on a string. I do not like it for HyperG for example. One thing I like - typically I string my sticks right before a tournament. And in Sergetti case racket is ready and stringbed does not change its characteristics from the very beginning. In case of regular stringing - 15-20 min brake in seems to be needed.

 

[Emmanuel1971]

Hello Everyone glad to join this forum as a brand new Angell user ! I have just acquired and tested this weekend a TC 100 V3 ( 320 gr , balance 305, RA 63 String pattern 16x19 ) and a K7 lime strung both a 24/22 kg with the Head Velocity MLT (only string type I had available at the time ) first of all I was surprised how soft and comfortable both rackets were , coming from Someone who struggled with shoulder pain from a Babolat Pure Aero and pure strike project 17 , this was a welcome change ! the TC100 V3 is a rocket launcher ! I was finding pace with ease on both forehand & one handed backhand but you have to use top spin a lot otherwise the balls are going way too long struggle with serving at first with this one but I think my average technique is more the issue than the racket the K7 Lime was different , definitely a control racket ,was not easy to find depth even with a multi but it has a nice feel and is quite ok to maneuver I will test both again but this time using a Poly at a lower tension ( 23/21 for V3 TC100 and 22/20 for the k7 lime ) , I am planning to use either Volkl Cyclone or RPM blast at 16 Any other suggestion in terms of strings / tension is welcome

 

[Carreau]

I would try a bit softer poly than Cyclone / RPMBlast.

 

[Emmanuel1971]

thanks any suggestions ?

 

[topspn]

thanks any suggestions ?

TC100 needs a bit more control. Try Head Hawk 16 @52lbs, hyper-g 16g @53lbs or RS Lyon. I just played Black Night @53lbs but it was too soft for the TC100 while I love it in the TC95 so go figure.

 

[Taita87]

Which multifilament is good on paper for a Tc95 63ra 18/20?

 

[MilanA]

I dunno...I have some black shaped poly in my tc100. When it was freshly strung it was at 25kg tension and the balls still had the tendency to sail long if there was not enough spin on them. With lower tension I'd think they would sail long even more.

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[Carreau]

@Emmanuel1971
Ultra Cable, Black Code, Silverstring, Scorpion, Co-Focus.

 

[Emmanuel1971]

@Carreau @topspn thanks a lot I 'll try Hyper G I think would that work as well on the K7 lime at a very low tension ?

 

[therecanbeonlyone]

Which multifilament is good on paper for a Tc95 63ra 18/20?

My favorite so far has been Tecnifibre Multifeel 17. It does get "hairy" after some play, so you can tell where you've been making contact. But honestly, I like the feel when the string matures a little bit like that.

 

[t_pac]

Which multifilament is good on paper for a Tc95 63ra 18/20?

Don't see many Angell multi users tbh, but I like Head Velocity 16g in my K7s

 

[topspn]

@Carreau @topspn thanks a lot I 'll try Hyper G I think would that work as well on the K7 lime at a very low tension ?

I think it needs at least different gauge so maybe 17 or 18. TC100 is very open string pattern so larger gauge is good. K7 is already closed pattern comparatively so i’d go with a thinner gauge

 

[letplaytennis]

Bought a used TC97 off the auction site with the following specs: 330g/11.7 oz., 315 9ts. HL. What modifications would I need to do in order to have the racket similar to RF97A?

 

[nvr2old]

Bought a used TC97 off the auction site with the following specs: 330g/11.7 oz., 315 9ts. HL. What modifications would I need to do in order to have the racket similar to RF97A?

I had a 16x19 TC97 (I assume yours is 16x19 since RF is) that I wanted to feel like the RF only slightly lighter. Unfortunately the TC felt vague and not as solid as the RF and even adding lead as was suggested here did not help. I finally gave up and sold it. Currently have the TC 97 18x20 which although not a RF replacement feels totally different. My solution to the RF quandary was to buy a non RF staff 97 and mod it a little.

 

[letplaytennis]

Thanks for the feedback.

I'll see how it plays later this week. Worst case scenario I sell it and not be out much $ on it.

 

[saleem]

Which multifilament is good on paper for a Tc95 63ra 18/20?

hdx tour main silversting x and prince premier control main krishbaum evolution x hybrid (54/50) has been playing well in 16x19 tc95