I know it's in vogue to belittle Nick these days (and appropriately so), but he's not actually a bad guy, just annoying. If he was in the NFL he'd be up for the Man of the Year Award due to the charity work he does.Kyrgios. He'd fit better in the NFL where so many players end up in prison
50 and social is one of the parts, unfortunatelyNot coincidentally both Ukrainians. Like Russia, Ukraine seems to be about 60 years behind the West on social issues.
Hewitt ❗❗❗01. Federer
02. Zverev
03. S. Williams
04. Kerber
05. Laver, Lendl and Murray
3. Gustavo Kuerten1. Kim Clijsters
2. David Ferrer
I agreeCan't say I dislike or hate anyone.
Anyone who uses derogatory terms like "hicks" about their fellow human beings is a bigot.Of course, but look at his background. His father put himself through law school and ended up a partner in a top NYC law firm. That doesn't make John Sr. an "educated" man either, but there are certain things that JMac generally gets right. His grammar is normally fairly correct, and I don't think he has a hick's view of the world. He and his brother hardly grew up without money and all sorts of connections, and I don't equate knowledge, sophistication or anything else with number of years in school. I barely made it through one degree because I was so sick of the BS involved in colleges, and even though I have that one degree, I've never gone near More of Same or Piled Higher and Deeper.
As I read Agassi's book, I was very impressed with his hunger for more knowledge. I don't know if you also read it, but as a musician I was fascinated with his love of musical theatre. I'm not sure, but I think Andre might be a very interesting person to talk to.
Maybe a fair criticism, but I fear I'd have to go to ridiculous lengths of PC to escape your ire.Anyone who uses derogatory terms like "hicks" about their fellow human beings is a bigot.
No. I'm not remotely PC. I just wouldn't use outdated derogatory terms to judge and insult my fellow human beings. Nor do I judge people by their grammar or education levels. Some of the nastiest people I've ever met are highly educated with perfect grammar.Maybe a fair criticism, but I fear I'd have to go to ridiculous lengths of PC to escape your ire.
Actually, the bold part is very true. However, it was not my intent to be nasty, for the record...No. I'm not remotely PC. I just wouldn't use outdated derogatory terms to judge and insult my fellow human beings. Nor do I judge people by their grammar or education levels. Some of the nastiest people I've ever met are highly educated with perfect grammar.
Odd choices.1. Kim Clijsters
2. David Ferrer
What makes you say that?Diva.
Yes, overall she would be liked. Unless of course she had multiple meltdowns, abusive behaviour, more instances of breaking racquets than you care to count.If Venus had 23 slam's you think people on here would like her? LOL
You should add a poll.Maybe because of their personality, or the way they carry themself on and off the court, or maybe because of their style of play or any other reason...but who are the players you dislike the most?
Same here.I don't hate any players. I don't watch the matches of the ones I don't care for.
She isnt a role model for women! Maybe in USA, but not over here! The press made fun of her disgraceful USO final last year.Serena-has the mentality of an entitled brat, no class on the court, everything she says comes across as very stage managed/phony & will use/exploit anything she can to try to get her way or make money off it-race, gender, parenthood, bullying/intimidation etc. Just a horrible advert for the game, sportsmanship & I have no idea how she is feted as being some kind of role model for women, when she is the total opposite of what anybody should be aspiring to other than she wins a lot. She is the most evenly balanced tennis player as she has a massive chip on both shoulders. It is hard to believe her & the gracious, respectful Venus are related.
Serena-has the mentality of an entitled brat, no class on the court, everything she says comes across as very stage managed/phony & will use/exploit anything she can to try to get her way or make money off it-race, gender, parenthood, bullying/intimidation etc. Just a horrible advert for the game, sportsmanship & I have no idea how she is feted as being some kind of role model for women, when she is the total opposite of what anybody should be aspiring to other than she wins a lot. She is the most evenly balanced tennis player as she has a massive chip on both shoulders. It is hard to believe her & the gracious, respectful Venus are related.
McEnroe.
And I think the whole "cute" thing (commercials, faking outrage in senior events) is disgusting.
I think it was Kriek who called him out in the seniors.
Today's bad boys can't hold a candle to him. To see him at his absolute worst watch the WCT '87 final against Mecir. He acted up the entire match, constantly berating the umpire, telling him things like he wasn't going to stop and there was nothing the umpire could do about it.
And then there's always this. There's nothing cute about a grown man at a meaningless seniors event acting like this. Note the ball kid standing 5 feet from him.
I know, but that playing it for laughs is the disgusting part.He was an ass. However now he is just playing up to the character for laughs-it is what made him famous, just like the old guy who does comedy stuff in seniors doubles. Of course the umpires can take action up to & including declaring his opponent the winner. I am amazed at some of the stuff umpires put up with really.
Yes, overall she would be liked. Unless of course she had multiple meltdowns, abusive behaviour, more instances of breaking racquets than you care to count.
But, that's doubtful given her nature. She may have, at the very least, broken a racquet, but I can't think of a single instance. Can you?
So whilst some people may not like her, l would hazard a guess, that she would not receive double figures as "least favourite player" if there were a poll on this thread.
The problem is you assuming what I think is acceptable.Let's be real, no one would like her. It's no surprise as at least 50% of the people that don't like Serena hate both of them.
What is wrong with breaking a racket? Many people do this but it's somehow only a problem if Serena does it.
The problem is you assuming what I think is acceptable.
You condone anti-social behaviour. Fair enough. It doesnt follow that I do.
There are comments on this thread alone, of people liking Venus that dislike Serena.
You Sir, are projecting. You like Serena Williams. We get it. Thus far, you're in the minority. But given the runaway winner of the poll as yet.... not surprisingly.
Can you point to an example of me posting my admiration for a player that has multiple meltdowns?You should condone everyone that does it then.
It doesn't matter who wins the poll, she still has 23 slam's....
Not for me. However, when I hear him think, I always think of Bill Dana (my name Jose Jimenez) because his speaking voice in English to me is "unfortunate", and I have a feeling he navigates the grammar and intricacies of his own native language by instinct without knowing the rules.
Can you point to an example of me posting my admiration for a player that has multiple meltdowns?
Also, I'm slightly confused by your first sentence?
And if she had 33 singles majors, it wouldn't change my opinion that she lacks class.
I'm not sure what pointing to another player behaving badly achieves, unless you think I'm about to write that it's acceptable? I'm not.The point is, if she was just a tennis player that was ranked in the 50's most of her career no one would really care.
What do you make of this very classy behaviour?
I'm not sure what pointing to another player behaving badly achieves, unless you think I'm about to write that it's acceptable? I'm not.
Two wrongs do NOT make a right.
However, I'll ask you two questions: do you think it's unjustified for people to take exception to Serena Williams behaviour at it's worst?
Or, can you justify it?
The point is, if she was just a tennis player that was ranked in the 50's most of her career no one would really care.
What do you make of this very classy behaviour?
I'm not sure what pointing to another player behaving badly achieves, unless you think I'm about to write that it's acceptable? I'm not.
Two wrongs do NOT make a right.
However, I'll ask you two questions: do you think it's unjustified for people to take exception to Serena Williams behaviour at it's worst?
Or, can you justify it?
Steve Johnson has zero backhand....how he plays on tour without a backhand is beyond me.I'm going to go with Isner...what a complete bore to watch. It's incredibly frustrating to watch him attempt to hit a backhand. It's like after Sampras and Agassi left the tour, American men completely dropped the backhand and never looked back.
Additionally, Nadal. He's got a good game but he's so weird and awkward off court that makes me not like him. Djokovic too. He's so cringeworthy.
He, Isner, Sock, Harrison, and Tiafoe have awful backhands and are terrible movers.Steve Johnson has zero backhand....how he plays on tour without a backhand is beyond me.
Yes she is well known - this is due to her success. And her notoriety.They cannot but what I'm saying is she is well known, that's why everyone only ever focuses on her behaviour. There are loads of other players on the WTA that have acted worse than her.
And just saw the video you attached now. Most clips are just racket smashes, and the Jankovic one she was not in the wrong.
But by popular, do you mean known to the world outside of tennis fans?Both of you make valid points.
But there must be a reason why her worst meltdowns have been at the US Open. Some say it's still because of the 2004 incident but I don't know.
At best the title of the thread should have been worded, "Who is your least favourite popular player".
But by popular, do you mean known to the world outside of tennis fans?
That would be a short list. Only a handful are globally known. I'm not sure how many of my fellow countrymen, with zero interest in tennis, would have heard of our current British no.1 Kyle Edmond. Possibly, at a push, Jo Konta, but only because she had one great Wimbledon. Even then, I'm not so sure.
In that case, I imagine all of us on here know every tennis player nominated 'least favourite ' so it's fair game, even if we don't agree. Personally, l can see at least one reason for every player chosen, except Clijsters. That, l really don't get. However, it's that poster's choice, so l have to respect that.No just to tennis fans mainly as I doubt there is anyone here on this forum that isn't interested in tennis. Or better, like a top 30 player instead of 'popular'.
Serena's meltdowns may be on the extreme side of things, but I can make a long list of players that I cannot stand on any given day. I put most the blame on the fact that these people just cannot stand losing, their constant whining to their coaches, and also their sour faces at the net (latter is mainly WTA).
Tiafoe is a bad mover? Have you ever seen him play? He has his weaknesses but moving isn't one of them....He, Isner, Sock, Harrison, and Tiafoe have awful backhands and are terrible movers.
There was endless taunting her opponents and insulting officials and ball kids. She could never control her temper, and she is just a disingenuous, mean-spirited person. The other players detested her for good reason.What makes you say that?
With Clijsters I can comment through personal experience: I've met her once and she was charming.
I also witnessed her signing autographs for 30 minutes after LOSING a match.
Mary Pierce similarly.
This isn't a show. He's a jerk on the court still.McEnroe.
And I think the whole "cute" thing (commercials, faking outrage in senior events, constant referring to it in the booth) is disgusting.
Today's bad boys can't hold a candle to him. To see him at his absolute worst watch the WCT '87 final against Mecir. He acted up the entire match, constantly berating the umpire, telling him things like he wasn't going to stop and there was nothing the umpire could do about it.
And then there's always this. There's nothing cute about a grown man at a meaningless seniors event acting like this. Note the ball kid standing 5 feet from him.
4. Arthur Ashe3. Gustavo Kuerten