What ever happend to some simple Synthetics like PSG?

[baselinerT]

Lately all ive been hearing about is the hybrids and all this fancy stuff that people use nowadays but doesnt anyone use synthetic gut anymore, which IMO feels better than monos or multis. i have used all types of string before and i kno some strings do better in some fields than other and people mix them together to get the best of both but wouldnt using PSG (which is very good) be cheaper and better, overall? idk, i just like it better than of all the stuff i used to use which was either too much of this or too little of that.


*i sort of did love the feeling of full multifilament the first time i used it though...*

 

[jim e]

but doesnt anyone use synthetic gut anymore, which IMO feels better than monos or multis.

I still string a lot of synthetic gut for the typical people who have no idea what they want or tension they want,as all they are use to is the typical syn. gut, which is fine.Usually they are the older ones at the club, that were use to the prestrung racquets they got at a big box store. For those people I used PSGD, or Babolat super fine play, for the typical syn. gut user, although I have a few that specifically ask for Head's synthetic gut.Synthetic gut is still a popular string.
Although all poly's are popular as well,and poly hybrids even more so, and I string probably more all nat. gut than an all multi. job.
But an all synthetic gut job is still very popular.
The posters here are more of a connoisseur of strings, more than the people who bring there racquets to me.A lot of people are afraid to change their normal set up and stick with the typical syn. gut.

For a while I would give away a free multi. string job to a typical syn. gut user, and told them to try it out on me, and most of them continued to use the multi. although a few did not like the less durability of the all multi.and of those I switched to xcell which seems to hold up better.

 

[autumn_leaf]

people switch out to different string types either for better feel, for more durability, and/or spin.

a lot of people still use synthetic gut, mostly recreational players or players that don't bother with gear and just play.

don't let this or any other forum fool you, we're just gearheads.

 

[Deleted member 25923]

I have only ever used synthetic gut, except for the free hollow core sample and the string that came in my Flexpoint radical tour.

 

[The_Question]

I tried Kevlar, kevlar w/syn gut, poly, poly w/ syn gut, multi, I have to say, I enjoy playing with a full bed of syn gut more than anything.

I have not tried natural gut yet, simply the cost...

 

[PBODY99]

Nothing is wrong . The companies want to grow their dollar volume so they want players to buy the higher priced strings. That said, the greater cost of the newer strings give you different playing characteristics than PSGD & its cones. It is up to the player to figure out where on the price|mateirial axis their "holy grail"{ for the moment:-? } lies.

 

[origmarm]

I still keep at least one stick strung with a full bed of PSGD. I experiment with different string setups with the other two but my reference is still PSGD. I've experimented with natural gut, multi, poly, all kinds of things but I still love the syn I grew up with. Now if only it didn't break so much.....

 

[hoodjem]

PSGO is still out there.


But there are now so many other alternatives, including better synth guts.

 

[mikeler]

I like PSGD but the durability does not meet my needs which is why I now use it as the cross string when I hybrid it with Big Ace.

 

[Il Mostro]

There are loads of good SG available today. In addition to PSG, Gosen, Forten, Laserfibre, Topspin and others offer high quality stuff -- each with their own unique properties.

 

[WV_tennis22]

I think, to some extent, for club/tourny players, its all about what the pros are using. For me, nothing beats a nice high-end synthetic...of course, maybe thats why i suck...

 

[Deleted member 25923]

Hell, the PSG on an old 80s frame still felt fine

 

[akoni]

I switched to POG Mids a little more than a year ago and spent most of that year experimenting with different setups (PSGD, gut/syn, multi, poly/multi, etc.). At first I was using PSGD since it is my reference string and then started experimenting because I felt as if I was missing out on something by not trying out different setups. After more than a year and probably a month on my latest setup (poly/multi), I think I will be going back to PSGD on these racquets full time. Sure other strings can do certain things better, but from an overall perspective synthetic gut is a great string.

 

[Nanshiki]

I think PSGD by itself plays great for...about an hour. And then not so much any more (as soon as the lubricant wears off and you start to hear all that nasty notching)

On top of that, as a main, it doesn't have enough spin for my serve.

As a cross, it's pretty decent except that the reels are so overpriced (five times the cost of tournament nylon)... which is why I'm trying Klipper strings out.

 

[hcelizondo]

I'd love to play with full SG job... but it only last me like 3 hours of play (2 if clay)... therefore I go hybrid for durablility

 

[TonyB]

Durability in the thinner gauges has been and always will be the problem with nylon strings.

People want playability and durability, and nylon just can't combine those two characteristics for any longer than a few hours. Even if you string your own frames, having to string every day or every other day becomes a nightmare.

Of course, if you're not a hard hitter and don't hit with lots of spin, then nylon is perfectly acceptable. It does have its place in the tennis world, but just not with big hitters.

 

[VGP]

The posters here are more of a connoisseur of strings

I think a lot of people think they're connoisseurs......

 

[goosala]

As far as cost vs. playability I still prefer syn guts over multis. Sure multis are softer for my arm but as much as I break strings a reel of Forten Sweet 16 is fine.

 

[wksoh]

For a moment.. I thought I was the only few syn gut users still around... ^^

 

[!Tym]

Durability in the thinner gauges has been and always will be the problem with nylon strings.

People want playability and durability, and nylon just can't combine those two characteristics for any longer than a few hours. Even if you string your own frames, having to string every day or every other day becomes a nightmare.

Of course, if you're not a hard hitter and don't hit with lots of spin, then nylon is perfectly acceptable. It does have its place in the tennis world, but just not with big hitters.

Yup, that's exactly it. Nothing wrong with synthetic guts playability wise, feel wise, or spin wise. With a nice thin, 17g, crisp synthetic gut like the Gosen Jim Courier 17g Titanium I once used, I got spin as good as any poly out there BUT with WAAAaaaaaaay better feel, better power, and better comfort.

Problem was with 17g synthetic guts, if I got more than an hour out of them, I'd consider it a good day. That's why I had to use kevlar back in the day as my baseline string. Problem with kevlar was that while I got better spin than ANYTHING ever made, including all the "space-ace" polys available today; it also would give me tennis elbow sure enough.

Basically, poly's are the middle ground between kevlar and synthetics. A good, well-engineered poly will give you most of the durability, spin, and control of kevlar, with most of the power, feel, and touch of "old school" synthetics...plus really coool colors too.

 

[Blade0324]

I string it a lot for people that like others have said don't really have any idea what they want etc. I find that many low level club players can't tell the difference in strings and it often has been years since they had their racquet strung so any new string is gonna be great to them. I personally can't use a full set of syn. gut or full multi. It just feels like absolute mush even when strung at 70+ lbs. and I don't like now much you can feel the ball on the strings. I love a really stiff string bed with a lot of control that makes it so I basically can hardly feel that ball hit the strings.

 

[iplaybetter]

it has become and undervalued benchmark...i for one am a big believer in the power(metaphoricaly) of synthetic gut

 

[Bud]

99% of players have no idea about strings or string technology. They wouldn't know the difference between Kevlar, poly or nylon.

They use what was in the frame previously.

 

[mikeler]

99% of players have no idea about strings or string technology. They wouldn't know the difference between Kevlar, poly or nylon.

They use what was in the frame previously.

The other 1% are involved in this thread

 

[borrachodemierda]

I love PSGD, in fact it's my string of reference when trying new stringjobs. I've tried isospeed control + and issospeed prefessional + (not the classics, the new stuff), they are great strings but at least for me there was no huge diffenerece to justify the extra cost. Different is the case when using SPPP 1.18, mainly because of a durability issue and the fact that you don't have to realign the string after every point. I tried cyberflash 17L, and was also very good, but still prefer SPPP 1.18.

Needless to say that I always go back once a while and play with PSGD.

 

[ronalditop]

what a nick you have, borracho de mierda.

 

[raygo]

I love PSGD, in fact it's my string of reference when trying new stringjobs. I've tried isospeed control + and issospeed prefessional + (not the classics, the new stuff), they are great strings but at least for me there was no huge diffenerece to justify the extra cost. Different is the case when using SPPP 1.18, mainly because of a durability issue and the fact that you don't have to realign the string after every point. I tried cyberflash 17L, and was also very good, but still prefer SPPP 1.18.

Needless to say that I always go back once a while and play with PSGD.

Here, here. PSGO is my baseline/comparison string when I try anything new. It does everything well--whatever I try would have to be noticeably better in some regard to justify the higher cost. I don't use it much for actual play anymore, but my GF uses it exclusively for all the reasons you said.

Man, I'm hitting 'Reply' a lot today...

 

[origmarm]

What's ronalditop on about?

 

[Richie Rich]

i just put PSGD in my racquet and have noticed a drop off in power and spin vs my regular poly string. it's not a bad string, just different.

 

[ronalditop]

What's ronalditop on about?

im talking about his nick. Traduce it to spanish if you want to know what it means.

 

[origmarm]

im talking about his nick. Traduce it to spanish if you want to know what it means.

Sorry I just realised by "nick" you mean the screen name as in "nickname" ...I must have left my brain at home. Doh!

 

[ronalditop]

Sorry I just realised by "nick" you mean the screen name as in "nickname" ...I must have left my brain at home. Doh!

:lol: .

 

[barry]

I think many would benefit doing what the pro's do.

Never change rackets, and always use the same string. It takes equipment out of the equation.

I am back on synthetic gut BSFP 17 which is cheap and last about 8 hours, and have to say after a year it is the only string I use. Wilson sent me some hollow crap to try and after 1 hour removed it.

I think the fewer changes you make in equipment the better for your game and you can concentrate more on to fitness, strategy and technique.

 

[thundaga]

I wish more ppl still used syn gut. Recently started stringing and polys are giving me some grief while weaving!

 

[Winners or Errors]

i just put PSGD in my racquet and have noticed a drop off in power and spin vs my regular poly string. it's not a bad string, just different.

That's because you used PSGD. Try a regular synthetic like PSGO if you want to find out why people like synthetic guts. IMHO, PSGD is a terrible string. I cannot understand its popularity.