Why do people hate Andy Murray?

Clarky21

Banned
On court histrionics, whining dropping F-bombs.....

Cvac drops the F bomb all the time(he did it again today). Not to mention the other filth he says about wanting people to take a trip down south on him, and how he wants to do the nasty with peoples mothers. He's far, far worse than Andy could ever be when it comes to being a filthy potty mouth.
 

Overdrive

Legend
Cvac drops the F bomb all the time(he did it again today). Not to mention the other filth he says about wanting people to take a trip down south on him, and how he wants to do the nasty with peoples mothers. He's far, far worse than Andy could ever be when it comes to being a filthy potty mouth.

Hey! I finally saw do it! I couldn't believe it.. :lol:
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
People hate on Murray, people hate on Fed, people hate on Nadal, people hate on Djoko... Take your pick. I like Fed's "don't give a damn about what just happened" personality, I like Nadal's "I'm coming after you" personality, I like Djoko's "I'll one-up you everytime I can" personality, and I like Murray's shy but sometimes overwhelmed personality.

People forget Federer and Nadal were both brats in juniors and as up-and-comers in the Pros. Djoko was always Djoko, and Murray was always in Nadal's and Djoko's shade ever since juniors or early Pros.

Just my 2 cents

That's two whole grand my dear.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
People hate on Murray, people hate on Fed, people hate on Nadal, people hate on Djoko... Take your pick. I like Fed's "don't give a damn about what just happened" personality, I like Nadal's "I'm coming after you" personality, I like Djoko's "I'll one-up you everytime I can" personality, and I like Murray's shy but sometimes overwhelmed personality.

People forget Federer and Nadal were both brats in juniors and as up-and-comers in the Pros. Djoko was always Djoko, and Murray was always in Nadal's and Djoko's shade ever since juniors or early Pros.

Just my 2 cents

Yeah, that's close to how i'm seeing it too. All the top players have fans and people who dislke them. Murray was arguably favourite for the tournament before it started, he's certainly been the one in the spotlight the last few weeks. Stands to reason he'll be discussed more than usual, mostly by those who aren't fans.
 

Fedex

Legend
That being said, give Murray a 2-3 slam year and most of these "haters" will quickly hop on the bandwagon. They are easy riders who latch on to a player once he becomes the best. They are not the kind of people who would stand by a player thick or thin, or support said player while he struggles to emerge; they measure character by number of victories and deride as weak and lazy a player that is not a success. Gloryhunters through and through. How easy it is to glorify a champion after the fact.

Look back on Djokovic-related threads from 2009 through 2010 and see the extent to which he was derided for his personality, for being a choker, mentally weak, etc. Then 2011 came and he began crushing Nadal, and he was proclaimed a hero, champion, mentally strong, etc.

There is no objective fact about Murray or Djokovic (at the time) that garnered enmity, just excuses people created to hurl invective at those they perceive as weak. Sort of like the Roman audiences cheering on a lion mauling a slave in the coliseum. When that slave happens upon a spear and impales the lion, the same crowd that was hitherto enthusing the slave's death now showers him with applause and praise.

This post sums it up perfectly.
 

Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
Don't hate Murray but not a fan for the following reasons:

1.) Passive playing style. Murray is often content to play weak low low risk shots and sit back at the baseline. He takes very little risks. This leads to boredom when watching.

2.) Weak forehand. I've always been a fan of guys with big dictating forehands. Murray has weak forehand amongst elite players.

3.) Attitude. The guy is constantly screaming and whining.

I honestly could care less about his interviews or the way he looks. I just do not find what he offers tennis wise entertaining.
 
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Mainad

Bionic Poster
Whatever Murray is ugly his personality, his attitude, his sense of entitlement he's ugly on the inside and out.

And the fact that he's British? You seem to hate anyone or anything who's British or American or what you call 'Anglo-Saxon'!

If Murray were Polish or Swiss or Serbian, I strongly suspect you would be singing quite a different tune about him!
 

syc23

Professional
That being said, give Murray a 2-3 slam year and most of these "haters" will quickly hop on the bandwagon. They are easy riders who latch on to a player once he becomes the best. They are not the kind of people who would stand by a player thick or thin, or support said player while he struggles to emerge; they measure character by number of victories and deride as weak and lazy a player that is not a success. Gloryhunters through and through. How easy it is to glorify a champion after the fact.

Look back on Djokovic-related threads from 2009 through 2010 and see the extent to which he was derided for his personality, for being a choker, mentally weak, etc. Then 2011 came and he began crushing Nadal, and he was proclaimed a hero, champion, mentally strong, etc.

There is no objective fact about Murray or Djokovic (at the time) that garnered enmity, just excuses people created to hurl invective at those they perceive as weak. Sort of like the Roman audiences cheering on a lion mauling a slave in the coliseum. When that slave happens upon a spear and impales the lion, the same crowd that was hitherto enthusing the slave's death now showers him with applause and praise.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Murray haters are all spineless trolls. End of.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
He's Scottish, he'll never be British or English.. There's a huge difference and deep down he's just like William Wallance.. I'm sure he'd spit on the Queen just like everyone else not from England.

Not this ignorant bullsh1t again.

British and English are not the same thing. I'll say that again for clarity - British and English are not the same thing. Murray is not English, but he is very British.

It will also surprise you to learn that the Queen is loved by the vast majority of the population of the United Kingdom.
 
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batz

G.O.A.T.
I don't like Murray because I know the English language media hype him up BECAUSE they desperately want him to be part of the European trio of Federer, Nadal, Djokovic.

The American and the British media are desperate to have an Anglo Saxon man included in the top tier group.

Murray is also arrogant he's ugly and he has a bad attitude.

Your inane ramblings are one of the reasons I logon to here. Say some more funny stuff - go on. :)
 

PrinceMoron

Legend
You mean all the people here who have ever played him, met him, know anyone who knows him or has ever played an ATP ranked player?

That must leave about.....well, not enough to be worth talking about.
 

stingstang

Professional
1. Don't find his defensive style enjoyable to watch.
2. Don't like his general attitude, always whining/swearing about something.
3. Wimbledon crowd (not really his fault but he does encourage the idiots).

He seems a decent, modest kinda guy off the court and obviously works seriously hard but I find it hard to like his matches. Nothing wrong with that.
 
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zagor

Bionic Poster
They will post all kinds of rationalizations about his "pusher game" and "bland personality" even though those are characteristics of numerous players on tour towards whom they do not show detestation. However, if you were to secure a glimpse into their subconscious you would find mainly one reason:

11-9.

Disagree, a number of posters around here who aren't Fed fans in the slightest dislike Murray.

He is primarily a defensive player, but then again so is Nadal and usually Djokovic, too.

However, this "pusher" has the biggest first serve of the top four by a significant margin, and also has hit one of the fastest forehands measured, at 124 MPH.

The fact that he wins points with his amazing speed and coordination/anticipation is enough to make him a "pusher", I guess. You'd think someone with a Nadal avatar would be a little more reticent to throw around the "pusher" label, but alas.

Both Nadal and Novak are more consistently aggressive actually (especially Nadal with his FH), I think it just comes more naturally to them, especially on the big points.

I don't think Murray has still found the perfect (for him) balance of offense and defense though he certainly uses his FH with more authority since pairing with Lendl.

That said I definitely disagree with the pusher label, Murray can at times be too defensive but overall he's a very talented player (you mentioned anticipation and speed, I'd add placement, touch and varying spin and pace) who while not playing his best at Wimbledon this year has been very clutch with his serve (obviously, very important on grass).
 

Sreeram

Professional
He's not a boring player at all. You can see him thinking his way to victory on the court - he's a guy with variety and will use that to expose any weakness once he's honed in on it.

So much more interesting to watch than all those 6ft 6in+ guys who just brainlessly wail away on every ball.

Maybe the average tennis fan in here is way too ADD to appreciate a point being constructed anyway - they wanna see lines painted as quickly as possible. In which case Isner is your new God.
Best post I have seen in any thread. People here do not have enough tennis brains to appreciate his point construction. I can say this with 100% assurance. Those who call him pushers should have guts to put their tennis video. Else it is certain that they have no understanding of the term. He diserves to win tomorrow. I believe he will.

I don't care about the opinion of these dumb posters who hate him with zero understanding of the game. He wil always be my favourite player for his talent and skills. I Am not a Brit.
 

Fedex

Legend
Disagree, a number of posters around here who aren't Fed fans in the slightest dislike Murray.

Both Nadal and Novak are more consistently aggressive actually (especially Nadal with his FH), I think it just comes more naturally to them, especially on the big points.

I don't think Murray has still found the perfect (for him) balance of offense and defense though he certainly uses his FH with more authority since pairing with Lendl.

That said I definitely disagree with the pusher label, Murray can at times be too defensive but overall he's a very talented player (you mentioned anticipation and speed, I'd add placement, touch and varying spin and pace) who while not playing his best at Wimbledon this year has been very clutch with his serve (obviously, very important on grass).

Zagor has to be the most level headed, calm, objective poster.
He speaks sense, keeps his cool and sees things like it is all the time even whilst surrounded by hateful, antagonistic posters and frayed tempers.
 
K

Kilco

Guest
On court histrionics, whining dropping F-bombs.....

Novak moans at the audience, sarcastically claps opponents when they get lucky. Tells people to suck his dic% and that he would fuc* their mother in Serbian. Yet, you hate murray for a little curse at himself when he misses a cc pass?
 

Sreeram

Professional
He's not a boring player at all. You can see him thinking his way to victory on the court - he's a guy with variety and will use that to expose any weakness once he's honed in on it.

So much more interesting to watch than all those 6ft 6in+ guys who just brainlessly wail away on every ball.

Maybe the average tennis fan in here is way too ADD to appreciate a point being constructed anyway - they wanna see lines painted as quickly as possible. In which case Isner is your new God.
Best post I have seen in any thread. People here do not have enough tennis brains to appreciate his point construction. I can say this with 100% assurance. Those who call him pushers should have guts to put their tennis video. Else it is certain that they have no understanding of the term. He diserves to win tomorrow. I believe he will.

I don't care about the opinion of these dumb posters who hate him with zero understanding of the game. He wil always be my favourite player for his talent and skills. I Am not a Brit.
 
pros-

VERY modest

negatives-

unbearable to watch
annoying face and mannerisms
overly passionate, obnoxious army of casual, once a year tennis fans supporting him(SO irritating) aka The British public
 

PrinceMoron

Legend
If having the best return stats is being a pusher, then others would do well to take a leaf out of his book.

How many slam finals in a row now? Oh, pushing will get you nowhere.

And anyone who has sat in row A and watched Murray play would know it is not pushing.

God save us from all the TV pundits and armchair tennis fans.
 
K

Kilco

Guest
If having the best return stats is being a pusher, then others would do well to take a leaf out of his book.

How many slam finals in a row now? Oh, pushing will get you nowhere.

And anyone who has sat in row A and watched Murray play would know it is not pushing.

God save us from all the TV pundits and armchair tennis fans.

Very true. Friend of mine seen him at 02 last year, the action force and weight he puts into his shots is incredible!
 

Milan

Rookie
Not this ignorant bullsh1t again.

British and English are not the same thing. I'll say that again for clarity - British and English are not the same thing. Murray is not English, but he is very British.

It will also surprise you to learn that the Queen is loved by the vast majority of the population of the United Kingdom.

Maybe the English love her, but I guarantee you Irish and Scottish don't.

She's disgusting.
 

Strategy

Semi-Pro
Murray is definitely not as bad as a pusher like Simon. He goes for his shots when he has the chance and can play attacking tennis (even if he doesn't do so often). Murray as a person is fine too, but yea his tennis game isn't the most exciting to watch.
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
the way he runs
the way he prepares to recieve
the way he plays (especially how he hits FH)
the way he behaves on court
the way he holds his back
i will not add the way he looks cause it's not appropriate
that's about it i guess.
 

PCXL-Fan

Hall of Fame
I must admit that if Murray were British I would love him. If he were French or German or Lithuanian or Polish I would as well, but alas he is Scottish. :)
 

kaku

Professional
If having the best return stats is being a pusher, then others would do well to take a leaf out of his book.

How many slam finals in a row now? Oh, pushing will get you nowhere.

And anyone who has sat in row A and watched Murray play would know it is not pushing.

God save us from all the TV pundits and armchair tennis fans.

TT Logic: If you don't hit hard or have a 1HBH, you're a pusher.
 

Hollywood401k

Semi-Pro
Some matches he plays, like against Fed in the AO semis this year, are actually entertaining to watch. But those sorts of matches, where he actually puts real pressure on an opponent beyond just forcing UEs are a rarity for him. His on-court attitude is terrible and he resorts to gamesmanship fairly frequently.

Off-court, in interviews, I think he's pretty level-headed and likable.

The quality of shots in a given Djokovic/Nadal 20-30 ball rally are well beyond the quality of shots in a given Djokovic/Murray rally. In that sense, I can understand the pusher label that's been attached to Murray. But it's also true, he's no Simon.
 

qwertre

Rookie
Murray has been a top 4 player for years now. That's evidence of a weak era, not proof of a strong one like so many would lead us to believe.

I'm confused. Why don't you believe that Murray is at least a good player, if not a great one? I think he could have been Wilander-esque with a little more luck. Truth is, the GOAT and his anti-GOAT have been the top two for most of Murray's career. One of the best grass-court , hard-court, and clay-court players each has been the top three. Murray is incredibly steady and talented-- he even has a winning record against Fed. A US Open, Olympic Gold, and 6 slam finals, as well as the Masters 1000's. What's wrong with that resume?
 

qwertre

Rookie
Best post I have seen in any thread. People here do not have enough tennis brains to appreciate his point construction. I can say this with 100% assurance. Those who call him pushers should have guts to put their tennis video. Else it is certain that they have no understanding of the term. He diserves to win tomorrow. I believe he will.

I don't care about the opinion of these dumb posters who hate him with zero understanding of the game. He wil always be my favourite player for his talent and skills. I Am not a Brit.

Exactly. I can't understand how people can claim to value point construction, patience, talent, hands, etc, then bash Murray for "pushing." The truth is, Murray's talents are not in power and crushing topspin, but in a mix of old-school base-lining (angles, varying speeds and spins, whatnot) and modern power tennis. I'm not a rabid Murray fan, but I like to watch him and I think the hate on this board is completely unnecessary.
 
He was overhyped by guys like Gilbert, he fakes injuries during matches, at an early age showed the arrogance of a multi slam winner of AA when he misses shots like he was infallable, how could he possibly miss that...he is a Scott not a Brit, some of his wins have been opportunistic to say the least, Djoko his buddy has at times not looked very intense like last years USO, his body quickly went from stragelly to buff suggesting the probability of PED use.....
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Exactly. I can't understand how people can claim to value point construction, patience, talent, hands, etc, then bash Murray for "pushing." The truth is, Murray's talents are not in power and crushing topspin, but in a mix of old-school base-lining (angles, varying speeds and spins, whatnot) and modern power tennis. I'm not a rabid Murray fan, but I like to watch him and I think the hate on this board is completely unnecessary.

Agreed. Not liking a player is totally understandable, i'm not a huge fan of Nadal for instance. To not like Murray for being a "pusher", for me, means they can't really be taken seriously. Maybe they let their dislike for him cloud their judgement of what they are actually seeing, which happens, but to not understand the subtleties of what he is actually trying to do out there doesn't mean a whole lot.
 

-RF-

Hall of Fame
His face
His mum
His attitude and whigniness
Absolutely no charisma
Him


I can understand him in terms of his (or lack of) personality, but will never ever like him
 
He is loved now. Everyone wants him to win Wimbledon. To be honest he was only really hated by the general English public, because of the apparent comments he made about the English national team. Then his cramping up against Nalbandian did not help his image.

Now everything has changed. He is strong and fit, so no longer gets called a wimp. Has won a slam and an Olympic gold so no one can call him a loser and is the media darling. The big turning point was winning the gold.
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
He is loved now. Everyone wants him to win Wimbledon. To be honest he was only really hated by the general English public, because of the apparent comments he made about the English national team. Then his cramping up against Nalbandian did not help his image.

Now everything has changed. He is strong and fit, so no longer gets called a wimp. Has won a slam and an Olympic gold so no one can call him a loser and is the media darling. The big turning point was winning the gold.

hope all that will be forgotten ASAP.
 

a10best

Hall of Fame
I thought Lendl was low-key. This guy is really low-key. I expect more emotion and excitement from a Brit after winning. But then again, he is Scottish so maybe that plays a part. I don't hate the guy or dislike him. How could you possibly hate someone from the way they play or talk?
 
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I don't like Murray because I know the English language media hype him up BECAUSE they desperately want him to be part of the European trio of Federer, Nadal, Djokovic.

The American and the British media are desperate to have an Anglo Saxon man included in the top tier group.

Murray is also arrogant he's ugly and he has a bad attitude.

Murray is scottish. Not exactly anglo saxon.

Whatever Murray is ugly his personality, his attitude, his sense of entitlement he's ugly on the inside and out.
Holy cow Butch, you're not only a frustrated bull dyke but a dispicable racist and a bigot as well.

I think your "partner" needs a fresh set of batteries....your frustration is boiling over the top there Butch.
 

PCXL-Fan

Hall of Fame
For the umpteenth time, he IS British!



What is wrong with being Scottish?

I'm sorry I meant English. I resent that the Scots have held the English back from their heavenly mandate in guiding the lesser races, lesser races like the Scots, Canadians and the French.
 
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Sreeram

Professional
Let the haters hate. Nothing can take the fact away that he is your 2013 Wimbledon Champion. Andy Rocks. Learn to respect him.
 

Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
Holy cow Butch, you're not only a frustrated bull dyke but a dispicable racist and a bigot as well.

I think your "partner" needs a fresh set of batteries....your frustration is boiling over the top there Butch.

He is actually a gay man.

And yes you are correct. He is a hateful jerk and a complete plague on this forum.
 
I am already seeing the asterisks for Murray Wimbledon win by the media- Djoker was tired after his 5 set SF vs Del Potro.

I did share the opinion that the windy conditions at USO favored Murray and the H2H reflected that Djoker had Murray's number, but this Wimby win against Djoker is legit without any asterisks.
And as a bonus, Murray's GF does look quite pretty, so perhaps something to like if you are having a hard time looking for reasons to support him :).
 
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Bjorn99

Hall of Fame
I wish they would legalize steroids, particulary organic ones, but heck, no one would die of disease at a young age, and the old would be brand new, so they have to keep up this facade that steroids are bad for you.

That being said, while they are illegal, I suspect both players in todays match to be enjoying them. Just my opinion of course, and not saying they are, just MY suspicion.
 
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