Wilson Rok

[nobullshft]

Another pro at my club and I were talking about old racquets and such and the Wilson Rok came to mind, love this thing! But he also said, you love any racquet hard on arms don't you. But I generally hit the sweet spot and don't have a tight grip at all so have never had trouble. But yeah the shape of the racquet seemed almost square!! Loved it.


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[treblings]

Another pro at my club and I were talking about old racquets and such and the Wilson Rok came to mind, love this thing! But he also said, you love any racquet hard on arms don't you. But I generally hit the sweet spot and don't have a tight grip at all so have never had trouble. But yeah the shape of the racquet seemed almost square!! Loved it.


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the Rok isn´t hard on your arms. i find it very comfortable. i just spent the last few months playing with it again, since i´m between rackets right now.
the only thing i find hard is finding new rackets that are as comfortable as the Rok or older Prestiges and Radicals.

and yes, hitting the sweet spot helps

 

[nobullshft]

the Rok isn´t hard on your arms. i find it very comfortable. i just spent the last few months playing with it again, since i´m between rackets right now.
the only thing i find hard is finding new rackets that are as comfortable as the Rok or older Prestiges and Radicals.

and yes, hitting the sweet spot helps

I know not entirely knew but a racquet that is extremely like it is the Kblade tour 93. Played very similar. But beyond that I have enjoyed the new speed pro.


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[treblings]

I know not entirely knew but a racquet that is extremely like it is the Kblade tour 93. Played very similar. But beyond that I have enjoyed the new speed pro.


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thanks, i have to test the new Speed Pro

 

[Ronaldo]

Great racquet with a tight string pattern. Still have one

 

[teachingprotx]

I loved the feel of the rock the lay up was heaven . Just could never get any topspin what so ever . Which is weird cause I play with 18x20's but for some reason with the rock no spin / topspin

 

[Shaolin]

I remember the Rok. Lowest power frame Ive ever tried and I only use low powered frames. Kind of like a lightweight Prestige mid. Beautiful racquet and I loved the head shape.

Very strange racquet…not sure who they were targeting for this frame. Too demanding for a rec player but too light to for most 5.0+ players to enjoy. Kind of a cool for them to give it a try and put on the market but I'm not surprised it was short lived.

 

[Ronaldo]

I remember the Rok. Lowest power frame Ive ever tried and I only use low powered frames. Kind of like a lightweight Prestige mid. Beautiful racquet and I loved the head shape.

Very strange racquet…not sure who they were targeting for this frame. Too demanding for a rec player but too light to for most 5.0+ players to enjoy. Kind of a cool for them to give it a try and put on the market but I'm not surprised it was short lived.

Guys I've met who used a PS all loved this racquet. Never saw one buy it though.

 

[Shaolin]

Guys I've met who used a PS all loved this racquet. Never saw one buy it though.

I used a PS 6.1 for about 70 years, was prob using it when I tried the Rok too.

 

[Ronaldo]

I used a PS 6.1 for about 70 years, was prob using it when I tried the Rok too.

One guy called the PSC a wet noodle. Cannot imagine what he thought of The ROK! Ironic he had to use a real wet noodle, Yonex SRQ-500 due to TE

 

[Crocodile]

Very closed string pattern and low powered hence high control. Was a very flexible frame but the dense string pattern made it feel firmer than it really was. Definately flexible for a Wilson but not like a 7.1 pro staff zone.

 

[jayserinos99]

I bought a couple when they first came out; still was using the 6.1 Classic at the time and just could not adapt to it. Not enough pop and spin because the middle of the stringbed seemed so dense. Looking back, if Tour Bite 18 was out back then, it would've helped. I think I strung mine up with 16 or 17g syngut, so it didn't really help at all.

 

[PBODY99]

My doubles partner used this frame when it came out with Gamma 1.20mm aramid wrapped nylon string. A very dead set-up.

 

[big ted]

i think its the closest thing to a wooden racquet you can get these days without actually being a wooden racquet

 

[joe sch]

I remember the Rok. Lowest power frame Ive ever tried and I only use low powered frames. Kind of like a lightweight Prestige mid. Beautiful racquet and I loved the head shape.

Very strange racquet…not sure who they were targeting for this frame. Too demanding for a rec player but too light to for most 5.0+ players to enjoy. Kind of a cool for them to give it a try and put on the market but I'm not surprised it was short lived.

Not really that light, almost 12oz via specs from http://www.thetenniswiki.com/Wilson+HYPER+PRO+STAFF+ROK+93.
Pretty flexible, nice control racket. I still have a few of these classics.

Wilson HYPER PRO STAFF ROK 93

Specifications:
Length: 27 inches / 69 centimeters
Head Size: 93 square inches / 593 square centimeters
Weight: 11.8 ounces / 335 grams
Balance Point: 12.875 inches
33 centimeters 5pts Head Light
Construction 19.5mm Straight Beam
Composition 90%Graphite/10%Hyper Carbon
String Pattern 18 Mains / 20 Crosses
Flex Rating 60
Swing Weight 323

The Wilson Pro Staff Rok 93 features a 18 x 20 string pattern. The pattern is very dense in the centre of the racquet, making for a small sweetspot that affords the user lots of control. The Rok 93 is generally termed as a control orientated racquet for this reason.

There are two different Rok 93 versions. The first released has 'Hyper Carbon Double Braided' written on the side while the second version released has wilson in silver on the throat are. The first version is 10g heavier. As a control racquet, users are advised to string at a lower tension than they may do for other racquets.

 

[treblings]

Not really that light, almost 12oz via specs from http://www.thetenniswiki.com/Wilson+HYPER+PRO+STAFF+ROK+93.
Pretty flexible, nice control racket. I still have a few of these classics.

Wilson HYPER PRO STAFF ROK 93

Specifications:
Length: 27 inches / 69 centimeters
Head Size: 93 square inches / 593 square centimeters
Weight: 11.8 ounces / 335 grams
Balance Point: 12.875 inches
33 centimeters 5pts Head Light
Construction 19.5mm Straight Beam
Composition 90%Graphite/10%Hyper Carbon
String Pattern 18 Mains / 20 Crosses
Flex Rating 60
Swing Weight 323

The Wilson Pro Staff Rok 93 features a 18 x 20 string pattern. The pattern is very dense in the centre of the racquet, making for a small sweetspot that affords the user lots of control. The Rok 93 is generally termed as a control orientated racquet for this reason.

There are two different Rok 93 versions. The first released has 'Hyper Carbon Double Braided' written on the side while the second version released has wilson in silver on the throat are. The first version is 10g heavier. As a control racquet, users are advised to string at a lower tension than they may do for other racquets.

i have about 10 Rok 93´s and always wondered whether the difference between the two versions was merely cosmetical
love my Roks and still play them from time to time. string weight of 21/19 kg works well for me with this frame

 

[anirut]

I still play with one. Slapped leather on it and strung it with a poly/multi hybrid in the mid-high 40's and this thing is golden.

 

[LuchoVena]

Not really that light, almost 12oz via specs from http://www.thetenniswiki.com/Wilson+HYPER+PRO+STAFF+ROK+93.

Specifications:
....
Weight: 11.8 ounces / 335 grams
...

There are two different Rok 93 versions. The first released has 'Hyper Carbon Double Braided' written on the side while the second version released has wilson in silver on the throat are. The first version is 10g heavier. As a control racquet, users are advised to string at a lower tension than they may do for other racquets.

Would you know if those specs are strung or unstrung?, and if it refers to the first heavier model (+10g) with the "Hyper Carbon Double Braided" logo on the outside throat or the second one with the "Wilson" instead?

Thanks

 

[joe sch]

Would you know if those specs are strung or unstrung?, and if it refers to the first heavier model (+10g) with the "Hyper Carbon Double Braided" logo on the outside throat or the second one with the "Wilson" instead?

Thanks

Specs from the tennis wiki at: http://www.thetenniswiki.com/Wilson+HYPER+PRO+STAFF+ROK+93
I would expect "unstrung"

Consider this also:

There are two different Rok 93 versions. The first released has 'Hyper Carbon Double Braided' written on the side while the second version released has wilson in silver on the throat are. The first version is 10g heavier. As a control racquet, users are advised to string at a lower tension than they may do for other racquets.

 

[LuchoVena]

Specs from the tennis wiki at: http://www.thetenniswiki.com/Wilson+HYPER+PRO+STAFF+ROK+93
I would expect "unstrung"

Unstrung...335g 1st version?

Can anyone who has either version confirm specs?

 

[teachingprotx]

I had the wilson rok lite version . Still was heavy to me . I think the lite version was only sold in the Asian market . I bought mine used online . I think it came out close to 12 oz strung with all the grips I applied leather , and shock absorber .
I wanted to love it and I did love the shape of the head , the way the racket felt in a ready position was sublime backhands one handed flat drives were amazing , slice APlus ,volleys awesome . Wonderful flex characteristics. Only one problem .
No topspin allowed . Literally no top . I've only hit a few dead flat forehands on mistake . The dead flat one . You know the one .. the one where the threading on the ball is at a dead still as it flys thru the air.
With the rok I could hit that ball all the time . But .. I didn't want to as it was the only shot I could hit on the forehand . Still to this day I've never hit more dead flat forehands than with any other racket . And .. and and - I've even hit with a pro kennex micro strung frame and could get some degree of topspin with the rok , none .

 

[joe sch]

I had the wilson rok lite version . Still was heavy to me . I think the lite version was only sold in the Asian market . I bought mine used online . I think it came out close to 12 oz strung with all the grips I applied leather , and shock absorber .
I wanted to love it and I did love the shape of the head , the way the racket felt in a ready position was sublime backhands one handed flat drives were amazing , slice APlus ,volleys awesome . Wonderful flex characteristics. Only one problem .
No topspin allowed . Literally no top . I've only hit a few dead flat forehands on mistake . The dead flat one . You know the one .. the one where the threading on the ball is at a dead still as it flys thru the air.
With the rok I could hit that ball all the time . But .. I didn't want to as it was the only shot I could hit on the forehand . Still to this day I've never hit more dead flat forehands than with any other racket . And .. and and - I've even hit with a pro kennex micro strung frame and could get some degree of topspin with the rok , none .

Great to see those seams on a flat blast !

 

[teachingprotx]

Yes I agree when your trying to hit it ! Not when it's the only one you can hit I tried and tried with that rok , man.... I wanted to love it . Probably a good thing as the lite versions are tough to find . But then again everything that I like is tough to find . It's been a challenge my whole life

 

[LuchoVena]

Ive also seen ROKs with RED top bumper guards, and black side grommets on both 'Wilson' and 'Hyper Carbon Double Braided' written on the side versions.
Ive seen others with all of it black.

Is that an indication of anything?

 

[!<-_->!]

Ive also seen ROKs with RED top bumper guards, and black side grommets on both 'Wilson' and 'Hyper Carbon Double Braided' written on the side versions.
Ive seen others with all of it black.

Is that an indication of anything?

The red bumper guards were meant to designate them as demo rackets for shops iirc.

 

[Povl Carstensen]

Mine says Wilson on the throat, so second version I guess. Am I right that the weight difference is mainly in the grip? Mine felt relatively head heavy (compared to other "players" rackets), and I have added some lead to the grip. Btw, I think I get quite good spin...

 

[teachingprotx]

Agreed . I loved the aesthetics of the Rock like a in reverse paint job of a head prestige .
Loved the head shape one of my all time fave ever produced .
I wish Wilson should reconsider bringing this one back to market in a more open pattern . They could even market it as a spin model by giving us a 16x17 or whatever but just open up that string bed. Now more that ever ( depending on the volume of sales with the new Wilson tour monfils') they may sell a few of these roks with a open pattern .
I personally enjoyed the lite' version which I think was 11 oz unstrung .
Since the movement is going lighter maybe use the lite' version to bring back. Just fun thinking .
That frame was almost perfect in so many ways .



QUOTE="Shaolin, post: 11090368, member: 11"]I remember the Rok. Lowest power frame Ive ever tried and I only use low powered frames. Kind of like a lightweight Prestige mid. Beautiful racquet and I loved the head shape.

Very strange racquet…not sure who they were targeting for this frame. Too demanding for a rec player but too light to for most 5.0+ players to enjoy. Kind of a cool for them to give it a try and put on the market but I'm not surprised it was short lived.[/QUOTE]
Man

 

[anirut]

ROK no topspin? I can get decent topspin out of it. No problem.

Is string a factor here? I have mine strung with mains Wilson Sensation 17 @50 and cross Luxilon Adrenalin Rough @46

 

[jorel]

Old racquet............heh
Anyway when it came out Granville compared it to a Cabernet...others in between a prestige classic and pt630

High praise nice racquet..very fragile tho after cracking it on the fence

 

[treblings]

Old racquet............heh
Anyway when it came out Granville compared it to a Cabernet...others in between a prestige classic and pt630

High praise nice racquet..very fragile tho after cracking it on the fence

Granvilles review was the main reason i bought my first ROK
here´s a quote:

"Granville, ever the connoisseur, did not find the lack of power in the ROK a problem, saying, "yes, there is a slight drop in power, but the result is a racquet where you can hit out and enjoy good depth. Passing shots are a real treat, as the extra millisecond of string contact (due to flex) seems like seconds. I often found myself enjoying the diminishing resonance of my racquet after a crosscourt backhand winner, like I would enjoy the lingering tannins of an excellent Bordeaux wine."

 

[asifallasleep]

So i had this ROK that I bought years ago on a whim and never used it so i put it for sale. I was being pressed about it by a buyer so much so that i decided to keep it and string it up. Feels amazing in my hands so I can't wait to take it for a spin on Tuesday night. Stay tuned. What a beautiful stick.

 

[Ronaldo]

So i had this ROK that I bought years ago on a whim and never used it so i put it for sale. I was being pressed about it by a buyer so much so that i decided to keep it and string it up. Feels amazing in my hands so I can't wait to take it for a spin on Tuesday night. Stay tuned. What a beautiful stick.

One of two racquets players asked if it is in my bag. Other, Fischer Pro Classic 90, Michael Stitch racquet.

 

[graycrait]

Oh, God......!!!!! I have a pair of ROK 93s (please I beg of you)....I can't say more on this subforum....

 

[asifallasleep]

Why does swinging this thing in my living room make me feel like i can crush the ball? 350 grams with a leather grip, i generate my own pace so i don't think power is going to be problem. How did it compare to the PS90 at the time in regards to power?

Also, it's so whippy, i'd imagine racquet head speed and spin would be easy. It feels similar to my pt630 but more maneuverable and quicker through the air.

I'm expecting massive spin, rpms, and control. Will i be disappointed? Hahahahaha.

 

[asifallasleep]

One of two racquets players asked if it is in my bag. Other, Fischer Pro Classic 90, Michael Stitch racquet.

To this day I have a friend who raves about that Fischer. Has a few in his bag always.

 

[Ronaldo]

Why does swinging this thing in my living room make me feel like i can crush the ball? 350 grams with a leather grip, i generate my own pace so i don't think power is going to be problem. How did it compare to the PS90 at the time in regards to power?

Also, it's so whippy, i'd imagine racquet head speed and spin would be easy. It feels similar to my pt630 but more maneuverable and quicker through the air.

I'm expecting massive spin, rpms, and control. Will i be disappointed? Hahahahaha.

You cannot be serious!

 

[asifallasleep]

It looks like it was designed by Ferrari. This paint job could be on a Porsche at Le Mans in the 70;s. LOL.

 

[Ronaldo]

To this day I have a friend who raves about that Fischer. Has a few in his bag always.

Never worthy of this stick, Stich. Tough to find the right tension too

 

[Ronaldo]

It looks like it was designed by Ferrari. This paint job could be on a Porsche at Le Mans in the 70;s. LOL.

Musta been the precursor to the Hyper Pro Staffs. Shoulda seen the HPS 6.0 95, georgeous

 

[asifallasleep]

It swings like a Pure Strike to me.

 

[asifallasleep]

Never worthy of this stick, Stich. Tough to find the right tension too

19g Cyclone at 40lbs and i have gobs of power and spin. I suspect the really thin gauge helps negate the really tight 18X20 pattern.

 

[graycrait]

@asifallasleep , Have you ever swung a Volkl Tour 10 Mid 93" 1st Gen, not a Power Bridge 10 Mid? I purchased 2 ROK 93s thinking they would play something like the Tour 10 Mid, no way. Compared to the Tour 10 Mid the ROK 93 feels clumsy, almost sluggish, but better for bashing from the baseline than the Tour 10 Mid. However, I have not tried a 19g poly in the ROK 93, which is causing me to go thinner and lower weight to see if for my game and ability I can "hit a ROK 93 sweet spot." On paper, the ROK 93 should work for me. I'll go thinner lower on the string.

 

[asifallasleep]

@asifallasleep , Have you ever swung a Volkl Tour 10 Mid 93" 1st Gen, not a Power Bridge 10 Mid? I purchased 2 ROK 93s thinking they would play something like the Tour 10 Mid, no way. Compared to the Tour 10 Mid the ROK 93 feels clumsy, almost sluggish, but better for bashing from the baseline than the Tour 10 Mid. However, I have not tried a 19g poly in the ROK 93, which is causing me to go thinner and lower weight to see if for my game and ability I can "hit a ROK 93 sweet spot." On paper, the ROK 93 should work for me. I'll go thinner lower on the string.

I tried a friend's Power Bridge 10 Mid ages ago. I liked it quite a bit I believe, but didn't play with it extensively. I can only speak of the 1st generation of the ROK with Hyper Carbon Double Braid on the side of the throat, not the later one with Wilson on the side of the throat? The later one is supposed to be about 10g lighter and not as stable.

For me, I added a leather grip and with the 19g Cyclone at 40 it's amazing. I ended up at around 353 grams and 7pts HL. It's like a magic wand in my hand. It has everything. Power, spin, plow, finesse and it's extremely maneuverable. Adding the mass in the handle and with the thinner lighter strings made it much more headlight and easier to swing while giving it even more plow and power. No lead is needed in the head. The quality and attention to detail in this stick is better than anything i've played with. It's just so solid. Even more than my RF97 and Pro Stock H19's.

When it was released it was all about 15-16g strings at fairly high tensions. I'm certain that would feel like a board. I tried a full bed of 18g Cyclone Tour and that felt a bit boardy. Instead of cutting out all the strings I removed the crosses and put in 19g Cyclone. I will see how this hybrid works.

With the small head and tight 18X20, I think you need at least 19g or thinner to open it up and make it shine.

A thin high performance poly can really transform a racquet. Completely changing the dynamics of a frame.

The ROK has more plow than the PS85 and the K90 and with a bigger sweetspot. I was bullying my buddy who rips the ball with his RF97's. I have racquet head speed and mass and its just beautiful. I've never hit with a more solid frame. Hope this helps.

Using a 93 now after all these years I'm like why would I even bother swinging anything larger when I'm seeing no benefit to doing so.

If Dimitrov can take Rafa to 5 sets at the AO 2017, a 93 is sufficient no matter how much spin your opponent is throwing at you.

 

[Ronaldo]

Recall Sampras used 19 gauge NG in his racquet. Several local players mimicked that setup. Kept the stringers busy

 

[asifallasleep]

The hybrid setup actually works with 18g Cyclone Tour in the mains at 40lbs and 19g Cyclone in the crosses at 37lbs.

 

[PBODY99]

Ive also seen ROKs with RED top bumper guards, and black side grommets on both 'Wilson' and 'Hyper Carbon Double Braided' written on the side versions.
Ive seen others with all of it black.

Is that an indication of anything?

Wilson Red bumpers were on the demos at first, but many of those were sold at retail with a full warranty.

 

[jonathane40]

How does the ROK compare to the PS95 from 2014? I string the PS90 with Hyper G soft at 45lbs.

 

[oldmanyellingatcloud]

Always considered this racquet as sort of a proto-Blade. The ROK 93 and the 98 nBlade are on my list of must-try, as a lover of classic Radicals. The KBlade 98 was nice and never got to try the KBlade Tour.

 

[aus89]

Remember Magnus Norman and a couple other players used it for a little while in 2003, Taylor Dent got a paintjob of it - was definitely the precursor to the Blade 93

 

[Ronaldo]

Still have a ROK 93