With Fedal phasing out, there seems to be no interest in Wimb 2016

[tennisaddict]

Let us go back 5-10 years. A day like today, with the Wimbledon draw out, would be dissected here and every one will be wondering who the early upset / dark horse / favorites are going to be..

With Nadal out , Federer just back from injury and seeing the same old Murray-Novak matches, I see serious loss of interest here and probably just 20 posts on a single page discussing the Wimb draw.

Is this what we are going to witness next 3-4 years ?

 

[ollinger]

We're all busy trying to find out if we can still get in the EU line at Heathrow on our way to WImbledon.

 

[Noelan]

OP you need some sleep ,it should do wonders to your current mental state, if not , you should see a therapist really . You are here 24/7 whining ,spilling your usual BS.

 

[chacmool]

ill give you fed but nadal ?
or the interest was in the rosol moment of the year ?

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Let us go back 5-10 years. A day like today, with the Wimbledon draw out, would be dissected here and every one will be wondering who the early upset / dark horse / favorites are going to be..

With Nadal out , Federer just back from injury and seeing the same old Murray-Novak matches, I see serious loss of interest here and probably just 20 posts on a single page discussing the Wimb draw.

Is this what we are going to witness next 3-4 years ?

The rabid fanboys are out, so not so much posting around the draw, but the interest is as high as ever.

 

[kishnabe]

Yeah, just interested in the early matches. Won't watch the final if it was Murray and Djok again.

Skipped the AO final. Watched the FO final...in the hopes that Murray played like he did in Madrid and Rome. But no...got disappointment by his play in the 2nd and 3rd.

 

[Deleted member 744633]

ESPN analyst John McEnroe can relate, saying the indifference toward Djokovic is the price for first following and now surpassing Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal.

Let us go back 5-10 years. A day like today, with the Wimbledon draw out, would be dissected here and every one will be wondering who the early upset / dark horse / favorites are going to be..

With Nadal out , Federer just back from injury and seeing the same old Murray-Novak matches, I see serious loss of interest here and probably just 20 posts on a single page discussing the Wimb draw.

Is this what we are going to witness next 3-4 years ?

 

[tennisaddict]

Yeah, just interested in the early matches. Won't watch the final if it was Murray and Djok again.

Skipped the AO final. Watched the FO final...in the hopes that Murray played like he did in Madrid and Rome. But no...got disappointment by his play in the 2nd and 3rd.

I am with you.

It is incredibly hard to see the Novak-Agut, Novak-Ferrer, Novak-Raonic, Novak-Murray matches.

if Fed was physicall ok, I would have look forward to the SF , but that is also a wash.

I am focussing on Isner-Baghdatis, Ram-Lopez, Thiem-Mayer matches.

 

[Nonsense]

That's good. The less interest there is in what Djokovic is attempting to accomplish, the easier it will be for him.

No media pressure, no fan pressure.

 

[tennisaddict]

That's good. The less interest there is in what Djokovic is attempting to accomplish, the easier it will be for him.

No media pressure, no fan pressure.

Can you imagine what would have happened had Fed or Rafa won 4 in a row during their period ?

There is no noise now for a reason.

 

[Nonsense]

Can you imagine what would have happened had Fed or Rafa won 4 in a row during their period ?

There is no noise now for a reason.

And that is wonderful. Djokovic might actually end up doing 6 in a row even!

Djokovic will never win any popularity contests and media ignoring him will only serve as greater motivation.

 

[jm1980]

Can you imagine what would have happened had Fed or Rafa won 4 in a row during their period ?

No packs of rabid fanboys polluting the forums with proclamations of GOAT?

Looks like a win to me

 

[newpball]

Let us go back 5-10 years. A day like today, with the Wimbledon draw out, would be dissected here and every one will be wondering who the early upset / dark horse / favorites are going to be..

With Nadal out , Federer just back from injury and seeing the same old Murray-Novak matches, I see serious loss of interest here and probably just 20 posts on a single page discussing the Wimb draw.

Is this what we are going to witness next 3-4 years ?

There may be no interest for some folks!

I mean it is not a secret that many die-hard F fans are of the "if F stops I stop being interested in tennis" caliber.

The question is are they tennis fans or just F fans?

 

[Noelan]

The rabid fanboys are out, so not so much posting around the draw, but the interest is as high as ever.

You forgot to say whose rabid fanboys. Your pack is still here, rabid and mad as always

 

[tennisaddict]

No packs of rabid fanboys polluting the forums with proclamations of GOAT?

Looks like a win to me

I was talking about the media which has been silent. This forum though is infested with ********* who started watching tennis since 2011 and they have been loud

 

[mandy01]

It's clear the interest has dwindled significantly. Other than the most rabid Djokovic fans I can't see anyone who'd argue otherwise. To top it off, the Brexit and the Euro cup have clearly taken over in public discussion leaving little room for an inevitable final. I do think the overall ratings will take a hit this year with so much going on.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

You forgot to say whose rabid fanboys. Your pack is still here, rabid and mad as always

Rabid fanboys from all sides.

 

[BeatlesFan]

There's interest still for Fed. Here's a beautiful article about him from today:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...y/news-story/cfb7b23a5be51034e4ae009c1124e1f8

 

[Noelan]

Rabid fanboys from all sides.

I dunno, your favorite thread is pretty quiet these days.
Really I can't undarstand why people just can watch the game or f-off form this sport if they find it that boring

 

[mandy01]

And that is wonderful. Djokovic might actually end up doing 6 in a row even!

Djokovic will never win any popularity contests and media ignoring him will only serve as greater motivation.

Yeah that's why he was getting the ball boys to do a song and dance routine with him at the French. Please. Don't paint him out to be a Lendl or as someone who uses indifference as motivation. He craves for attention to the point of being utterly cheesy about it. He's about as far from being a Sampras/Lendl as anyone can be.
And you can be assured that the media won't leave him alone with the calendar slam talk even if his achievements aren't met with the same reverance.

 

[90's Clay]

There hasn't been any real interest at Wimbleon since the 90s really. No one since even really knows how to play grass court tennis except for Federer.

Ping Pong Moonball tennis on Grass is painful to watch

 

[TheMusicLover]

There hasn't been any real interest at Wimbleon since the 90s really. No one since even really knows how to play grass court tennis except for Federer.

Ping Pong Moonball tennis on Grass is painful to watch

Appreciative words for Fedsie, coming from you? Are you sure you're okay?

 

[Nonsense]

Yeah that's why he was getting the ball boys to do a song and dance routine with him at the French. Please. Don't paint him out to be a Lendl or as someone who uses indifference as motivation. He craves for attention to the point of being utterly cheesy about it.
And you can be assured that the media won't leave him alone with the calendar slam talk even if his achievements aren't met with the same reverance.

And last I checked he did get the attention from the crowd. Funny thing though is that even though he obviously cares about the attention, he doesn't need it now. The crowd supporting his opponents used to put him off before, now it doesn't matter. He may want the attention, but he sure doesn't need it anymore.

But he will not get the same media frenzy as Fed obviously would had he won the first two slams in the year. He's not thd media darling and they wont go out of their ways to churn out articles daily on his quest.

Pressure on him will be significantly less than if any other member of the big 4 had been in the same position.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

There hasn't been any real interest at Wimbleon since the 90s really. No one since even really knows how to play grass court tennis except for Federer.

Ping Pong Moonball tennis on Grass is painful to watch

This proves without a shadow of a doubt, that you have been posting here in a state of coma ever since you joined this forum.

 

[mandy01]

And last I checked he did get the attention from the crowd. Funny thing though is that even though he obviously cares about the attention, he doesn't need it now. The crowd supporting his opponents used to put him off before, now it doesn't matter. He may want the attention, but he sure doesn't need it anymore.

But he will not get the same media frenzy as Fed obviously would had he won the first two slams in the year. He's not thd media darling and they wont go out of their ways to churn out articles daily on his quest.

Pressure on him will be significantly less than if any other member of the big 4 had been in the same position.

Yes and no. He's expected to do it this year because there's no one in the current game who can stop him. Will he be revered for it? I don't think so though the ITF is definitely trying.
As for not being affected- He DID get affected in the final. It wasn't exactly a great match from him. It was mostly Fed who blew it on BPs and IMO a lot of it was because he was himself overwhelmed by the crowd support.

 

[Nonsense]

Yes and no. He's expected to do it this year because there's no one in the current game who can stop him. Will he be revered for it? I don't think so though the ITF is definitely trying.
As for not being affected- He DID get affected in the final. It wasn't exactly a great match from him. It was mostly Fed who blew it on BPs and IMO a lot of it was because he was himself overwhelmed by the crowd support.

It doesn't matter if you play a great match or not. You just have to play better than the guy on the other side.

You only have to look at Murray in the FO to see how crowd can affect the match.

Also, I dont know if he'll be revered for it or not. But his name will forever be there in the record books.

 

[killerboi2]

There is no grass surface specialist in his prime that is worth anything on the surface now at all. Probably explains why there was more of a buzz about Wimbledon in the days Federer used to dominate.

 

[tennisaddict]

Seems like most are looking forward to Brown, Nick Kyrgios , Thiem and Zverev than Novak and Murray. Is that a fair statement ?

 

[mandy01]

It doesn't matter if you play a great match or not. You just have to play better than the guy on the other side.

You only have to look at Murray in the FO to see how crowd can affect the match.

Also, I dont know if he'll be revered for it or not. But his name will forever be there in the record books.

My point is he was clearly affected by the crowd. It's just that Fed himself wasn't in a great position to take advantage of it.

As for record books, yeah, but I doubt he'd be remembered the way Borg for instance is, even today. The records can be rewritten. Legacy cannot.

 

[Nonsense]

My point is he was clearly affected by the crowd. It's just that Fed himself wasn't in a great position to take advantage of it.

As for record books, yeah, but I doubt he'd be remembered the way Borg for instance is, even today. The records can be rewritten. Legacy cannot.

And you are confusing love and respect. Just because he won't bd loved (maybe he will.. I dont know how the rest of his career pans out) doesn't mean he wont be respected and remembered.

Any serious fan of tennis will remember him. Especially those who dislike him so much.

 

[mandy01]

And you are confusing love and respect. Just because he won't bd loved (maybe he will.. I dont know how the rest of his career pans out) doesn't mean he wont be respected and remembered.

Any serious fan of tennis will remember him. Especially those who dislike him so much.

Any tennis great is respected and occasionally remembered. I don't know what point you're trying to make here. I don't think he'll ever be an icon.

 

[Nonsense]

Any tennis great is respected and occasionally remembered. I don't know what point you're trying to make here. I don't think he'll ever be an icon.

And that's ok. Not everyone can be an icon.

In a selfish way, i'll be happy if he isn't. We'll be the rare breed of tennis fans really. Loving a player who will never be loved.

 

[tennisaddict]

And that's ok. Not everyone can be an icon.

In a selfish way, i'll be happy if he isn't. We'll be the rare breed of tennis fans really. Loving a player who will never be loved.

The situation can be salvaged still. Instead of Murray, if the young crop rises up and offers strong competition and if Novak still gets those 6 majors to cross Fed, no doubt he will be revered.

 

[dr325i]

I am with you.

It is incredibly hard to see the Novak-Agut, Novak-Ferrer, Novak-Raonic, Novak-Murray matches.

if Fed was physicall ok, I would have look forward to the SF , but that is also a wash.

I am focussing on Isner-Baghdatis, Ram-Lopez, Thiem-Mayer matches.

And you represent the majority of tennis enthusiasts??
Who cares what you are going to watch - totally your right to chose to watch qualies or Radwanska vs Woz if you wish.
I wonder if the attendance will be lower than previous years.

 

[Nonsense]

The situation can be salvaged still. Instead of Murray, if the young crop rises up and offers strong competition and if Novak still gets those 6 majors to cross Fed, no doubt he will be revered.

I dont want it to be. Give me novak's records instead.

Give him 9 majors instead of those 6 instead.

I'll take those records over him being an icon any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

[tennisaddict]

I dont want it to be. Give me novak's records instead.

Give him 9 majors instead of those 6 instead.

I'll take those records over him being an icon any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

I guess you want him to be a weak era champion at all costs. Nothing wrong, good to know.

 

[tennisaddict]

And you represent the majority of tennis enthusiasts??
Who cares what you are going to watch - totally your right to chose to watch qualies or Radwanska vs Woz if you wish.
I wonder if the attendance will be lower than previous years.

I am not talking about just myself here. Really the media response to a 4 in a row achievement has been abysmal to say the least. I think the era is to do with it.

 

[Nonsense]

I guess you want him to be a weak era champion at all costs. Nothing wrong, good to know.

Oh no. I want him to pummel those kids in the dirt as well, like he did to thiem at RG.

As long as he keeps winning you guys will keep calling it a weak era. So if he has to stop winning for it to suddenly become a strong era, id prefer he carry on winning.

 

[tennisaddict]

Oh no. I want him to pummel those kids in the dirt as well, like he did to thiem at RG.

As long as he keeps winning you guys will keep calling it a weak era. So if he has to stop winning for it to suddenly become a strong era, id prefer he carry on winning.

It is not just us calling 'weak era'. Why would he not get the recognition for all these achievements if the era was truly strong ?

 

[Chadillac]

Hopefully your wrong or espn3 will drop coverage like they did the clay court season. Not having tennis on tv makes interest drop quickly for the next season. It will continue to plummet in the ratings

 

[cknobman]

Whether you loved or hated Rafa/Roger they were 2 of the best things that could have happened to tennis as Sampras and Agassi left the sport.

I fear that dark days are ahead for tennis as there are no future stars to keep/bring popularity to the sport.

Regardless of Djokovic greatness he has never had, and never will, the love of the fans.

 

[Nonsense]

It is not just us calling 'weak era'. Why would he not get the recognition for all these achievements if the era was truly strong ?

I don't know, I've seen the media cover it well. Not as well as if fed had won it, but well enough for my non-tennis watching friends to know the details.

Maybe they just didn't cover it well wherever you are!

 

[tennisaddict]

Hopefully your wrong or espn3 will drop coverage like they did the clay court season. Not having tennis on tv makes interest drop quickly for the next season. It will continue to plummet in the ratings

Luckily, ESPN and ESPN3 are covering Wimb 16 unlike the FO. I think the next hammer could be for AO given the bad time. And USO could have other takers as well who may get the rights but may choose to telecast what they wish.

 

[Chadillac]

Luckily, ESPN and ESPN3 are covering Wimb 16 unlike the FO. I think the next hammer could be for AO given the bad time. And USO could have other takers as well who may get the rights but may choose to telecast what they wish.

Ya im happy for it, but if the interest is low (like it seems) i dont see them continuing coverage like we saw with the french.

They can drop the usopen, wont bother me, ibm still does streaming for it.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

Seriously? Look like there was no tennis before Fedal, what I was seeing in 90s was something else.

 

[Jaitock1991]

I am not talking about just myself here. Really the media response to a 4 in a row achievement has been abysmal to say the least. I think the era is to do with it.

Fed or Rafa winning one more slam would likely cover more pages than Novak winni.g 10 slams in a row. That says it all.

 

[uliks]

And you represent the majority of tennis enthusiasts??
Who cares what you are going to watch - totally your right to chose to watch qualies or Radwanska vs Woz if you wish.
I wonder if the attendance will be lower than previous years.

Usually this guys, tennisaddict, tennis_pro, 123456789 and people from the same ilk are huge Justin Bieber fans, rabid Bravo Magazine readers and they are here because of Roger hair. Those people aren't tennis fans. Good ridance i say to all this groupies.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Oh no. I want him to pummel those kids in the dirt as well, like he did to thiem at RG.

As long as he keeps winning you guys will keep calling it a weak era. So if he has to stop winning for it to suddenly become a strong era, id prefer he carry on winning.

And that's ok. Not everyone can be an icon.

In a selfish way, i'll be happy if he isn't. We'll be the rare breed of tennis fans really. Loving a player who will never be loved.

I dont want it to be. Give me novak's records instead.

Give him 9 majors instead of those 6 instead.

I'll take those records over him being an icon any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Exactly. I don't know why you chose that username because in fact all you say makes total sense.

It's astonishing how love and recognition became so important since Novak became the dominant champ. But as you said, wanting your favorite to win more rather than him becoming an icon is the way to go. That is Novak's way of looking at it too which is great. Hunting for titles rather than hunting for love. The smaller fanbase he has is more than enough to help him on some occasions.

Lendl is remembered despite never being the favorite. Novak will be even more remembered, the guy is among Top 3-5 Open Era greats. Despite claiming the opposite, his haters are doing a fine job at making it even more sure that he will be remembered as we all can see.

 

[newpball]

Seems like most are looking forward to Brown, Nick Kyrgios , Thiem and Zverev than Novak and Murray. Is that a fair statement ?

First and foremost I am looking for great tennis!

The game comes first then come the players!

 

[mandy01]

And that's ok. Not everyone can be an icon.

In a selfish way, i'll be happy if he isn't. We'll be the rare breed of tennis fans really. Loving a player who will never be loved.

There's nothing rare about it honestly. Every player has got fans and Novak has his. Look at people jumping on the Thiem bandwagon without him having accomplished anything of note.
The point of this thread was that there is a diminishing interest in tennis due a combination of factors which is true where I live and from what I can see is also true generally. I put that down to Djokovic being respected but not necessarily being seen as an icon in a highly individualistic sport.