vandre
Hall of Fame
is this why they never signed safin or jmac? 
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/australian-open-frame-set-smash-093838656.html
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/australian-open-frame-set-smash-093838656.html
Yonex to fine players for breaking frames.
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heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
If true then it is great. Yonex frames are too beautiful and well made to smash indiscriminately.
I hope the penalty clause is severe.
I hope the penalty clause is severe.
moon shot
Hall of Fame
Double for green ones, triple for blue.
THE MAN
Professional
I don't think the service is the issue. It's disrespecting there product that you are paid to represent. I am sure all of the racket manufactures shake there heads when they see one of there players there are paying to endorse them smashing the hell out of the product they are trying to sell to the public. Come to think of it....I think its a good ideal.
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Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
Just what tennis needs, let's take more character out of the sport.
At Hilton Head a couple of years ago, Vera Zvonareva destroyed one of her rackets in a walking smash. The crowd cheered her because she did it out of frustration at how bad she was playing. If I remember correctly, it lifted her and she won the match.
Marcos Baghdatis breaking what four rackets in frustration, some still in the plastic bags...it's entertainment.
And who didn't appreciate Marat Safin's talent? With talent often times comes a tempestuous nature, it's part and parcel of the player.
Finally, who can watch this and not get some real vicarious enjoyment? Who hasn't been on court and wanted to do this? You may regret it afterward, but while it's happening...it's the thing to do. Now imagine if your frames were free.
At Hilton Head a couple of years ago, Vera Zvonareva destroyed one of her rackets in a walking smash. The crowd cheered her because she did it out of frustration at how bad she was playing. If I remember correctly, it lifted her and she won the match.
Marcos Baghdatis breaking what four rackets in frustration, some still in the plastic bags...it's entertainment.
And who didn't appreciate Marat Safin's talent? With talent often times comes a tempestuous nature, it's part and parcel of the player.
Finally, who can watch this and not get some real vicarious enjoyment? Who hasn't been on court and wanted to do this? You may regret it afterward, but while it's happening...it's the thing to do. Now imagine if your frames were free.
Simon_the_furry
Hall of Fame
I could never smash a Yonex. Ever.
kimguroo
Legend
it might be only "warning" statement and don't think Yonex actually forces to a fine their players.
Yonex is reputable that they treat their players well and players also respect their sponsor.
Stan smashes rackets too and fine their top player? I don't think so. In my opinion, he is underpaid and if Yonex fine stan. their relationship is over long times ago.
BTW. I don't image myself smashing my $400 Regna.
Yonex is reputable that they treat their players well and players also respect their sponsor.
Stan smashes rackets too and fine their top player? I don't think so. In my opinion, he is underpaid and if Yonex fine stan. their relationship is over long times ago.
BTW. I don't image myself smashing my $400 Regna.
haqq777
Legend
Overheard the commentator during Rafa and Zverev match about this as well. Was mentioned that most racquet companies used to write personal letters to their sponsored players if they saw excessive smashes and racquet breakage up until few years ago. Now Yonex will take a chunk off contract money each time they do a violent racquet smash. Started to be in effect late last year.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Yonexes are so fragile you don't really need to do a ''violent smash''. A simple polite tapping to the court is usually sufficient to shatter them.
haqq777
Legend
Interesting. I'm not so sure about my DR98s being that fragile in all honesty. About the same as my APDs. Maybe thinner beam ones (VCORE Tour/Duel etc). Not trying and checking any time soon though
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Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Interesting. I'm not so sure about my DR 98s being that fragile in all honesty. About the same as my APDs. Maybe thinner beam ones (VCORE Tour/Duel etc). Not trying and checking any time soon though
Models may vary. All I know is that of all racquets Ive ever owned, only Yonexes crack from a simple bounce against the court. Two different frames cracked this way (different Yonex models). Never had an issue doing it with any other frame.
haqq777
Legend
Which models, out of curiosity? Have never had such an experience with my Yonexs. In fact, I think they are better in build quality than other mainstream racquet manufacturers any day of the week. Depends on individual experience I guess.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Cant remember the model names…One is the one in this pic (at least the store model of what his paint job is). The other would've been something similar. I usually use 12oz + frames.
haqq777
Legend
Yep, V Core 95D - roughly 12oz strung with OG. Discontinued now.Cant remember the model names…One is the one in this pic (at least the store model of what his paint job is). The other would've been something similar. I usually use 12oz + frames.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Yes thats the frame.
Andy Murray Is Goat
Rookie
Lol
PBODY99
Legend
First composite frame that I cracked, R-22 on a forehand. The VS gut was a week old, the frame just over a year. I had a pair of RQ-500 break on 75 mph 2nd serves.
The frames were considered ,fragile but sweet playing as the squared off head sets up different reactions to external compression forces.
Yonex writes the clause, lets it be known to the public, enforces it as little as they please. Win for everybody.
I would advise all rackets companies add a clause that the smashed frame must be given to a spectator or signed & donated to charity.
The frames were considered ,fragile but sweet playing as the squared off head sets up different reactions to external compression forces.
Yonex writes the clause, lets it be known to the public, enforces it as little as they please. Win for everybody.
I would advise all rackets companies add a clause that the smashed frame must be given to a spectator or signed & donated to charity.
The aforementioned frames and their atrociously square shape were the reasons for the breakage. That is why they became round over the years. I played with a VCore Tour 97 which came a year after Shaolin's VCore, but never had breakage problems despite being rough on them and stringing it at a rather high tension on a constant pull machine.
TennisHound
Legend
Why does Yonex have to put that out
publicly? Just notify the player or send them a letter or something.
publicly? Just notify the player or send them a letter or something.
macattack
Professional
Weird. My RD-7 is a tank.
TennisHound
Legend
All the Yonex frames Ive tried are solid- Tour 97, Tour G F, Duel G, etc.
macattack
Professional
That's amazing. I totally believe you. But I've never had a racquet of any brand break on me other than the Head Zebra MP I smashed intentionally (which was dumb and embarrassing behavior on the court). Wilson, Yonex, Head, Babs. All have held up with little more than scrapes and dings. Even occasionally smacking them against the court digging for a drop volley.
vandre
Hall of Fame
i've heard stories like that from parents of jrs who had been sponsored by yonex. they said the frames usually break at the "corners" my own experience is a bit different. i slipped playing indoors (on ball fuzz) one winter and i forgot to drop my brand new xl tour and i came down with all my weight racquet first and drove it headfirst into the court. the only damage done was a scrape in the paint on the side of the frame where it hit the court.
xFullCourtTenniSx
Hall of Fame
Interesting. I'm not so sure about my DR98s being that fragile in all honesty. About the same as my APDs. Maybe thinner beam ones (VCORE Tour/Duel etc). Not trying and checking any time soon though
Yonex frames are known for being structurally weak compared to other frames because of the square-ish design. Great for the sweetspot, bad for racket integrity due to uneven handling of pressure. This is probably why they've progressively gotten a bit rounder and have higher quality materials. If they weren't built with solid stuff, then nobody would buy their rackets.
xFullCourtTenniSx
Hall of Fame
That's what I thought, but I forgot so I didn't mention it. They consistently break at the corners, which indicates a structural design flaw.
Rock Strongo
Legend
I guess Yonex is going to go after me after I demolished my RX-32 last month then...
TennisHound
Legend
Is that +5"?! I feel a certain compulsion to hit with that thing and compare it with my Bubba 137 (which is +2")Square is weaker than round, but triangular is stronger than both which is why we should all be using Dunlop Max Predator Superlong right?
PBODY99
Legend
A compromise, not a flaw.
The mandatory 2 pc top down crosses ~4 pounds less than mains allows for the response off of the string bed. Fail to follow those rules, frame breaks. I find the heavier frames to naturally be more robust.
xFullCourtTenniSx
Hall of Fame
Square is weaker than round, but triangular is stronger than both which is why we should all be using Dunlop Max Predator Superlong right?
Clearly, we should. It even says +5.00 (NTRP) on the bag. It must be great! The only way it gets better is by making it an actual triangle, preferably equilateral.
No, it's a specifically (and brilliantly) designed flaw. The "sweetspot" is larger, but the racket breaks faster. This guarantees the fact that it'll be good enough to keep bringing you back to them, but structurally unsound so that you can't sit on the same racket for 10+ years through god knows how many string jobs like I've been trying to do.
Ronaldo
Bionic Poster
BITD, smashing a Yonex was not necessary. The racquets fractured on their own.
PBODY99
Legend
High performance tuning. Using tire analogy,
a F1 type frame rather than one deigned like a truck.
Simon_the_furry
Hall of Fame
oh crap, forgot about that....
I hope that my stringer remembered....
PT630Wannabe
Professional
Dude? You just went on that Zebra bender like, 6 months ago! You smashed one???? :0
macattack
Professional
Haha. Well, I still have my Zebras and I love them, but the same thing happened with them as happened with the RD-7 and RF97. I had a ton of fun playing with them, but I just play better with my Prestige mids. It's fun to have them around, though. I take them out to mix it up sometimes.
The smashing incident had nothing to do with the racquet, though. I was just having a crappy day and then I was playing like garbage. At one point my brain broke and I just smashed the Zebra I was playing with. First time I've ever smashed a racquet. I was super embarrassed.
PT630Wannabe
Professional
Haha. Well, I still have my Zebras and I love them, but the same thing happened with them as happened with the RD-7 and RF97. I had a ton of fun playing with them, but I just play better with my Prestige mids. It's fun to have them around, though. I take them out to mix it up sometimes.
The smashing incident had nothing to do with the racquet, though. I was just having a crappy day and then I was playing like garbage. At one point my brain broke and I just smashed the Zebra I was playing with. First time I've ever smashed a racquet. I was super embarrassed.
The next time you feel the urge, just take a deep breath and head directly to the post office. Postal services between D.C. and Montreal are remarkably reliable.
Bender
G.O.A.T.
I know that feelingHaha. Well, I still have my Zebras and I love them, but the same thing happened with them as happened with the RD-7 and RF97. I had a ton of fun playing with them, but I just play better with my Prestige mids. It's fun to have them around, though. I take them out to mix it up sometimes.
The smashing incident had nothing to do with the racquet, though. I was just having a crappy day and then I was playing like garbage. At one point my brain broke and I just smashed the Zebra I was playing with. First time I've ever smashed a racquet. I was super embarrassed.
oble
Hall of Fame
Did you also rip the grip off out of frustration?I know that feeling
PT630Wannabe
Professional
Did you also rip the grip off out of frustration?
Doesn't everyone?
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Krygios better get deep in to the tournaments since he seems to get out of control of his feels 1 out of 5 tournaments to make up for the fines he has to pay!
Bender
G.O.A.T.
Did you also rip the grip off out of frustration?
I had a nice Babolat leather grip on it...for sure I gotta save some money if I gonna break racquets, no?
Edit: fixed Nadal grammar
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