Adrian Mannarino brings two racquets to court in his small Nike bag

haqq777

Legend
So I watched the entire Mannarino and Coric match today and specifically kept an eye out on Manarino's gear. I found it very interesting that Mannarino, who at one point was ranked 27 just a couple of years ago, brought two APDs to court in his black small Nike bag (bag is not very visible here, will take better screen grabs when replays are available). He is obviously not sponsored by Babolat (no stencil or bag and no Pure Aero PJ). Very curious. Granted he is out of the top 50 at the moment, but he is also sponsored by Nike. Also the two racquets bit was very intriguing. There were some shots during the match of his gear and a quick glimpse of his bag which had no more racquets. Just 2 racquets total, in such humid, muggy conditions and that too for a pro is somewhat surprising.

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Doubles

Legend
For best of three set matches I can see a pro getting away with only using two racquets, but I would guess that unless he only has those exact two frames left, he'll have at least 4-5 for grand slams.

Maybe because he doesn't appear to be sponsored he rotates just a few racquets for each tournament so that they'll last longer.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
Might have been lost on his flight in or some other problem. I see players ranked in the hundreds getting Head gear (as in sets of 15 racquets) and juniors getting at least a couple.
 

mikeeeee

Professional
Being sponsored by Nike doesn't mean anything outside of the top ~15. It just means he gets shirts, shorts, and POSSIBLY a pair of shoes. Big sponsorship companies aren't big because they give money away to players that no one has heard of.
 

haqq777

Legend
Being sponsored by Nike doesn't mean anything outside of the top ~15. It just means he gets shirts, shorts, and POSSIBLY a pair of shoes. Big sponsorship companies aren't big because they give money away to players that no one has heard of.
Sure but I mean he was ranked #27 at one point. I've seen big companies sponsor players well outside of top 100 too. I think having reached #27 just a couple of years ago and current ranking of #58 is pretty high enough a ranking for a player. It does make sense that they wont give him money unless he produces results though, you are right in that.
I think Mannarino assembles his own outfits from recent Nike gear without an actual sponsorship.
As @Ico said Mannarino is not sponsored by Nike.

Also, he might have had other racquets being brought out to him in the course of the match via the stringing complex depending on his requirements......
Any sources or is it just a hunch regarding him not having Nike sponsorship? Players usually wear blacked out or logo less clothing if they aren't sponsored (at least that's my understanding).

And no, did not see any racquet brought out to him. Like I said, I watched the whole match closely paying special attention to Mannarino's gear. Easy to catch if you have one small Nike bag with you on court and one racquet next to the chair with no commercials on Tennis TV.

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movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
Being sponsored by Nike doesn't mean anything outside of the top ~15. It just means he gets shirts, shorts, and POSSIBLY a pair of shoes. Big sponsorship companies aren't big because they give money away to players that no one has heard of.

Nike has been whittling some expenses to due to poor results for several quarters that started with the demise of the Sports Authority.
 

haqq777

Legend
For best of three set matches I can see a pro getting away with only using two racquets, but I would guess that unless he only has those exact two frames left, he'll have at least 4-5 for grand slams.

Maybe because he doesn't appear to be sponsored he rotates just a few racquets for each tournament so that they'll last longer.
That sounds very likely, IMHO.
 

haqq777

Legend
Might have been lost on his flight in or some other problem. I see players ranked in the hundreds getting Head gear (as in sets of 15 racquets) and juniors getting at least a couple.
Could be. Crossed my mind too.
 
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haqq777

Legend
Not a string breaker or racket changer so if one does break then switch to the other and get the ATP stringer restring job in probably 15 mins. Not that big of a risk but personally, I would have atleast 3.
Yeah, that makes sense.
 
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movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
Roflmao, until you break a string. Then what do you do?

You borrow a racquet from your opponent or:

The Bugville team was surely up against a rocky game;
The chances were they’d win defeat and not undying fame;
Three men were hurt and two were benched; the score stood six to four.
They had to make three hard-earned runs in just two innings more.
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“I’ve got two pitchers in the field, a mutt on second base;
And should another man get spiked or crippled in some way,
The team would sure be down and out, with eight men left to play.
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My boys ain’t hitting like they should and that’s what worries me;
The luck is with the other side, no pennant will we win;
It’s mighty tough, but we must take our medicine and grin."
The eighth round opened- one, two, three- the enemy went down.
The Bugville boys went out the same- the captain wore a frown.
The first half of the ninth came round, two men had been put out,
When Bugville’s catcher broke a thumb and could not go the route.

A deathly silence settled o’er the crowd assembled there.
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With only eight men in the field ‘twould be a gruesome fray,-
Small wonder that the captain cursed the day he learned to play.
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“Lend you a man?” the foe replied; “My boy, you’re in a dream!
We came to win the pennant, too- that’s what we’re doing here.
There’s only one thing you can do- call for a volunteer!"
The captain stood and pondered in a listless sort of way.
He never was a quitter and he would not be today!
“Is there within the grandstand here”- his voice rang loud and clear-
“A man who has the sporting blood to be a volunteer?”
Again that awful silence settled o’er the multitude.
Was there a man among them with such recklessness imbued?
The captain stood with cap in hand, while hopeless was his glance,
And then a tall and stocky man cried out, “I’ll take a chance!”
Into the field he bounded with a step both firm and light;
“Give me the mask and mitt,” he said; “let’s finish up the fight.

The game is now beyond recall; I’ll last at least a round;
Although I’m ancient, you will find me muscular and sound."
His hair was sprinkled here and there with little streaks of gray;
Around his eyes and on his brow a bunch of wrinkles lay.
The captain smiled despairingly and slowly turned away.
“Why, he’s all right!” one rooter yelled. Another, “Let him play!”
“All right, go on,” the captain sighed. The stranger turned around,
Took off his coat and collar, too, and threw them on the ground.
The humor of the situation seemed to hit them all,
And as he donned the mask and mitt, the umpire called, “Play ball!”
Three balls the pitcher at him heaved, three balls of lightning speed.
The stranger caught them all with ease and did not seem to heed.
Each ball had been pronounced a strike, the side had been put out,
And as he walked in towards the bench, he heard the rooters shout.
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The fans and players gathered round to cheer the volunteer.
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ell us you name,” cried all,
As down his cheeks great tears of joy were seen to run and fall.
For one brief moment he was still, then murmured soft and low:
“I’m the mighty Casey who struck out just twenty years ago.”
 

Faris

Professional
Any sources or is it just a hunch regarding him not having Nike sponsorship? Players usually wear blacked out or logo less clothing if they aren't sponsored (at least that's my understanding).

And no, did not see any racquet brought out to him. Like I said, I watched the whole match closely paying special attention to Mannarino's gear. Easy to catch if you have one small Nike bag with you on court and one racquet next to the chair with no commercials on Tennis TV.

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HAHAH! Man that ball boy got some G SWAG!!!!!
 

haqq777

Legend
Saw him in Delray this year smashing a racket while getting crushed by Edmund. He may be waiting on a TW shipment!
Yeah, and the APDs are on sale too on TW! :) - I saw he kicked a chair in the second set (missed the racquet smash). He also got a code violation for an unsportsmanlike conduct (smashed a ball out out of court) resulting in a default at the end, if I'm not mistaken. I mean Edmund was up a set and was crushing him 5-0 in second anyway but still.
 
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gino

Legend
So I watched the entire Mannarino and Coric match today and specifically kept an eye out on Manarino's gear. I found it very interesting that Mannarino, who at one point was ranked 27 just a couple of years ago, brought two APDs to court in his black small Nike bag (bag is not very visible here, will take better screen grabs when replays are available). He is obviously not sponsored by Babolat (no stencil or bag and no Pure Aero PJ). Very curious. Granted he is out of the top 50 at the moment, but he is also sponsored by Nike. Also the two racquets bit was very intriguing. There were some shots during the match of his gear and a quick glimpse of his bag which had no more racquets. Just 2 racquets toatl, in such humid, muggy conditions and that too for a pro is somewhat surprising.

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Shocking.. My guess is his other frames were at the stringer. Goes to show not all pros get the luxurious treatment we imagine
 

Zoid

Hall of Fame
I remember Davydenko only using one prince for an entire tournament (I think it was IW or Miami, too) because it was his last one left and he liked it.

Some pros don't change with balls they just use the same stick all the way through, Hewitt was like that.
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
I watch many USTA amateur match championships were players had only one racquet. If it broke, some other player would offer their racquet to that player so he/she could continue with the match. Many inner city players only have one tennis racquet!
 

joe sch

Legend
I remember Davydenko only using one prince for an entire tournament (I think it was IW or Miami, too) because it was his last one left and he liked it.
Same with DelPo using his Wilson Classic Prostaff 6.1 95 with K Factor KSix-One 95 paint job.
Wonder has found more of those classics or has moved on to a new model ?
 

ricki

Hall of Fame
So guy with 2 rckts beat a guy with 7 racquets? Result?

Qty. of racquets doesnt make you better tennis player.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
So guy with 2 rckts beat a guy with 7 racquets? Result?

Qty. of racquets doesnt make you better tennis player.

Yes, but the best players work very hard that there isn't anything to detract from them playing the best that they can. If we look at the top ten players in the world, how many racquets do they bring?

In the business world, we call it execution. You make sure that your people have what it takes, and sometimes more than it takes, for them to get their job done. That may be free pizza and beer, good computing equipment, free coffee and soda and lunch, easy access to inexpensive housing or enough money so that they don't have to worry about paying for college expenses.
 

ricki

Hall of Fame
Yes, but the best players work very hard that there isn't anything to detract from them playing the best that they can. If we look at the top ten players in the world, how many racquets do they bring?

In the business world, we call it execution. You make sure that your people have what it takes, and sometimes more than it takes, for them to get their job done. That may be free pizza and beer, good computing equipment, free coffee and soda and lunch, easy access to inexpensive housing or enough money so that they don't have to worry about paying for college expenses.

Clearly American philosophy: Money/slavery-centered. No offense.
 

Booger

Hall of Fame
Maybe because he doesn't appear to be sponsored he rotates just a few racquets for each tournament so that they'll last longer.

Nah. I'm sure anyone in the top 100 can get as much free equipment as they want. It's virtually free advertising for the companies.
 
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bigserving

Hall of Fame
Playing with one racquet is no problem because you only need one frame to play with.

Going to court with only two string choices is another situation entirely. The playability factor of co-poly strings changes relatively quickly.

If he goes to court and has missed on the string tension, then he is not putting himself in the most advantages position to perform his best in that given match.
 

MarTennis

Semi-Pro
Might have been lost on his flight in or some other problem. I see players ranked in the hundreds getting Head gear (as in sets of 15 racquets) and juniors getting at least a couple.
Very true. Head is good about that. I hope YONEX gets that way.


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haqq777

Legend
Update on his racquet situation:

http://www.**************.org/amp_t...al-to-moscow-i-played-with-only-one-racquet-/

Adrian Mannarino: 'From Montreal to Moscow, I played with only one racquet'

Tennis - The French player says the situation didn't change after asking if somebody could send him a Babolat Pure Aero racket, that he has been using for years, with a 3 or 4 grip

http://www.**************.org/imgs/52990/adrian-mannarino-from-montreal-to-moscow-i-played-with-only-one-racquet-.jpg

A few weeks ago, before playing the semi-finals in Tokyo, Adrian Mannarino made a strange request on Twitter. The French player asked if somebody could send him a Babolat Pure Aero racquet, that he has been using for years, with a size 3 or 4 grip.


'Well, the situation didn't change,' Mannarino revealed in press conference at Paris Bercy following his straight sets win over 2012 champion David Ferrer. 'I have very few racquets left. Between Montreal and Moscow I played with only one racquet.


It is a problem because when you play with low tensions like I do, racquets, the tension changes. And when the match is long, it's a problem. I would like to be able to change my racquets more often to keep control over the ball.

But unfortunately, I had to stay with one racquet and things went well in spite of that. But I don't know what I'm going to do for next year. I don't know if I'm going to keep that model. I might have three or four extra racquets in the garage.

But I can't play the whole season with those racquets. It's not enough. So anyway, I will have a month-and-a-half to think about that problem after this tournament.' What about his string strength (16 kilos).

Does he know of anyone who has a similar string strength? 'I don't always play with the 16 kilos. It depends on the conditions. I change it by two or three kilos sometimes. Other players also play with a very low tension.

Jack Sock is at 14 (kilos), Kukushkin 12 or 13 (kilos). Many players have a low tension. It's surprising when you see those figures. But when other players try my racquet they believe it's quite comfortable and efficient.' Why does he play with the same apparel? 'With my coach, I made a bet that I was going to play with the same outfit the whole year.

I'm not sure I will succeed. I started in Australia with the same outfit. But, indeed, I do not have a sponsor for my clothes. This might change in the future if I have good results. I might have a sponsor. For the time being, it's the end of the season and this is when maybe these things can change.
 
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Zoolander

Hall of Fame
Update on his racquet situation:

http://www.**************.org/amp_t...al-to-moscow-i-played-with-only-one-racquet-/

Adrian Mannarino: 'From Montreal to Moscow, I played with only one racquet'

Tennis - The French player says the situation didn't change after asking if somebody could send him a Babolat Pure Aero racket, that he has been using for years, with a 3 or 4 grip

http://www.**************.org/imgs/52990/adrian-mannarino-from-montreal-to-moscow-i-played-with-only-one-racquet-.jpg

A few weeks ago, before playing the semi-finals in Tokyo, Adrian Mannarino made a strange request on Twitter. The French player asked if somebody could send him a Babolat Pure Aero racquet, that he has been using for years, with a size 3 or 4 grip.


'Well, the situation didn't change,' Mannarino revealed in press conference at Paris Bercy following his straight sets win over 2012 champion David Ferrer. 'I have very few racquets left. Between Montreal and Moscow I played with only one racquet.


It is a problem because when you play with low tensions like I do, racquets, the tension changes. And when the match is long, it's a problem. I would like to be able to change my racquets more often to keep control over the ball.

But unfortunately, I had to stay with one racquet and things went well in spite of that. But I don't know what I'm going to do for next year. I don't know if I'm going to keep that model. I might have three or four extra racquets in the garage.

But I can't play the whole season with those racquets. It's not enough. So anyway, I will have a month-and-a-half to think about that problem after this tournament.' What about his string strength (16 kilos).

Does he know of anyone who has a similar string strength? 'I don't always play with the 16 kilos. It depends on the conditions. I change it by two or three kilos sometimes. Other players also play with a very low tension.

Jack Sock is at 14 (kilos), Kukushkin 12 or 13 (kilos). Many players have a low tension. It's surprising when you see those figures. But when other players try my racquet they believe it's quite comfortable and efficient.' Why does he play with the same apparel? 'With my coach, I made a bet that I was going to play with the same outfit the whole year.

I'm not sure I will succeed. I started in Australia with the same outfit. But, indeed, I do not have a sponsor for my clothes. This might change in the future if I have good results. I might have a sponsor. For the time being, it's the end of the season and this is when maybe these things can change.

Aww man i almost feel sorry for the guy. Like i should sponsor him or send him a spare racquet or somthing.
 

haqq777

Legend
Update on his racquet situation:

http://www.**************.org/amp_t...al-to-moscow-i-played-with-only-one-racquet-/

Adrian Mannarino: 'From Montreal to Moscow, I played with only one racquet'

Tennis - The French player says the situation didn't change after asking if somebody could send him a Babolat Pure Aero racket, that he has been using for years, with a 3 or 4 grip

http://www.**************.org/imgs/52990/adrian-mannarino-from-montreal-to-moscow-i-played-with-only-one-racquet-.jpg

A few weeks ago, before playing the semi-finals in Tokyo, Adrian Mannarino made a strange request on Twitter. The French player asked if somebody could send him a Babolat Pure Aero racquet, that he has been using for years, with a size 3 or 4 grip.


'Well, the situation didn't change,' Mannarino revealed in press conference at Paris Bercy following his straight sets win over 2012 champion David Ferrer. 'I have very few racquets left. Between Montreal and Moscow I played with only one racquet.


It is a problem because when you play with low tensions like I do, racquets, the tension changes. And when the match is long, it's a problem. I would like to be able to change my racquets more often to keep control over the ball.

But unfortunately, I had to stay with one racquet and things went well in spite of that. But I don't know what I'm going to do for next year. I don't know if I'm going to keep that model. I might have three or four extra racquets in the garage.

But I can't play the whole season with those racquets. It's not enough. So anyway, I will have a month-and-a-half to think about that problem after this tournament.' What about his string strength (16 kilos).

Does he know of anyone who has a similar string strength? 'I don't always play with the 16 kilos. It depends on the conditions. I change it by two or three kilos sometimes. Other players also play with a very low tension.

Jack Sock is at 14 (kilos), Kukushkin 12 or 13 (kilos). Many players have a low tension. It's surprising when you see those figures. But when other players try my racquet they believe it's quite comfortable and efficient.' Why does he play with the same apparel? 'With my coach, I made a bet that I was going to play with the same outfit the whole year.

I'm not sure I will succeed. I started in Australia with the same outfit. But, indeed, I do not have a sponsor for my clothes. This might change in the future if I have good results. I might have a sponsor. For the time being, it's the end of the season and this is when maybe these things can change.
Slight correction here which I just noticed: he tweeted a photo of APD not PA as the article claims. Nevertheless, pretty interesting.
 

FedLIKEnot

Professional
I mean seems silly a KNOWN French player cant get racquets from a French company. As far as clothes and stuff doesnt Lotto have a deal with the ATP. Alot of low end players wear Lotto and he is surely above them. With racquets if he is willing to change I imagine alot of companies would sponsor him if for no other reason than to be the company that saves him and gets the PR bump.
 
I don't think we have to feel sorry for him. He's 29 years old and nr 28 in the world. There must be a reason why babolat doesn't sponsor him and it's not his ranking.
 
Does he play with a stock 2013 aero and doesn't want to switch to the new pure aero? Or is sponsorship the problem? Somehow being ranked that high and a racquet shortage of a specific model doesn't add up. Sam Groth who is outside the top 100 has 2013 Aero Pluses with the Pure Aero paint job, if he can get paint jobs then there must be more to this story
 

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
Perhaps his bad behaviour at times led him to get blacklisted by Babolat? That is the only logical option here as to why he is no longer sponsored.

I think Mannarino has got his head togethor a bit more in the later parts of this year, and that has coincided with some deeper runs in tournaments. It will be interesting to see what 2018 holds for him.
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
So basically everyone on this forum have more racquets than Mannarino.

Why doesn't he just buy 10-20 racquets and rotate them? It's not like it's expensive.
Trouble is that these pro do a lot of traveling and carrying 5-7 racquets is just silly. Most of the pro only carry two to three racquets with then to a tournament and their racquet sponsor ships then the rest as well as their big racquet bag.
 

Sambuccashake

Hall of Fame
A small racquet bag holds at least 3 and should be nimble enough for even the cheapest of journeymen.

To bring only 1 to court is plainly unprofessional.

What would he do in case of string breakage? Retire from the match or ask to borrow one from his opponent?
 

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
So basically everyone on this forum have more racquets than Mannarino.

Why doesn't he just buy 10-20 racquets and rotate them? It's not like it's expensive.

That isn't the problem. The problem is he only wants that one very specific model of the apd: https://twitter.com/AdrianMannarino/status/916306002764455937

My best guess is that he is very sensitive to changes in racquet, much the same as Delpo is.

It would be a nightmare trying to find a new racquet to use mid season. Going off his recent quotes he will likely try and find something new between now and 2018 season.
 

Sambuccashake

Hall of Fame
Based on the Twitter feed it's not exactly a unicorn he's looking for.
That isn't the problem. The problem is he only wants that one very specific model of the apd: https://twitter.com/AdrianMannarino/status/916306002764455937

My best guess is that he is very sensitive to changes in racquet, much the same as Delpo is.

It would be a nightmare trying to find a new racquet to use mid season. Going off his recent quotes he will likely try and find something new between now and 2018 season.
 
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