Plamen1234
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Yes indeed.It would have been interesting to see how Djokovic 2011 would have fared against Nadal at RG but we never managed to see this match
Nadal had the weakest competition out of any player in history
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Yes indeed.It would have been interesting to see how Djokovic 2011 would have fared against Nadal at RG but we never managed to see this match
MLRoy
Hall of Fame
For once that's true. Pick any slam, any year Joker & Federer played then look at the draw. No one gets better draws than those two. Nadal def got a Joker-like draw. After 10 wins, it's fitting.
Slightly D1
Professional
True. Look at Nadal: 10 RG titles and counting
Owning the second best clay courter of the era has been great. Hint- it’s Fed. But since getting wrecked in 2011, your boy has almost given up completely.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Nah, he is just a weak era benefactor who lucked out due to a trash era.
Him being the second best clay player of this era shows what a trash clay era this has been.
Slightly D1
Professional
Djokovic has been injured and has barely played or been a shadow of himself. Have you been watching tennis for the past 2 years?
Slightly D1
Professional
Why is it that every conversation with a Fed idolater on here ends up with them desperately trying to invaldate major totals and essentially b****ing about clay? Oh wait, Nadal owns property in your heads.
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He wasn't that debilitated post FO 2016 until his injury timeout in 2017 yet his results suffered. Why? It was a weak era.
We both know you didn't watch tennis from 1999 through to 2003 yet you're still commenting on the strength of the era.
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No he really doesn't.
Old man Fed owns current Rafa everywhere he plays.
Does the AO loss to a geriatric Fed still hurt?
Look how hopeless Federer made your boy look here.
Slightly D1
Professional
So you’re
Has anybody said that 2017 through now wasn’t a weak era? You’d be a fool not to say so with a 32 and 37 year old taking turns at #1.He wasn't that debilitated post FO 2016 until his injury timeout in 2017 yet his results suffered. Why? It was a weak era.
We both know you didn't watch tennis from 1999 through to 2003 yet you're still commenting on the strength of the era.
Slightly D1
Professional
Not too much, owning Federer in majors overall helps ease the pain of the 2017 AO.No he really doesn't.
Old man Fed owns current Rafa everywhere he plays.
Does the AO loss to a geriatric Fed still hurt?
Look how hopeless Federer made your boy look here.
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1999-2003 was stronger than today though buddy.
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He hasn't "owned" Federer in years though. And it's not a good look considering he's 36 years old and Nadal is only 31.
Slightly D1
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It’s a good thing the owning happened when Fed was still young then!He hasn't "owned" Federer in years though. And it's not a good look considering he's 36 years old and Nadal is only 31.
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Yet he can't touch old man Fed. Lmao.
Can't use "injury" as an excuse either because 2017 was an amazing year for Nadal too.
Slightly D1
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Have I said it wasn’t? Stop making things up, it doesn’t help your points when people can read...
Slightly D1
Professional
It was a good thing for Fed that he bailed out on a meet up at the USO to avoid getting wrecked. Granted his back was gone.Yet he can't touch old man Fed. Lmao.
Can't use "injury" as an excuse either because 2017 was an amazing year for Nadal too.
Plamen1234
Hall of Fame
Yet he can't touch old man Fed. Lmao.
Can't use "injury" as an excuse either because 2017 was an amazing year for Nadal too.
True.VB cant use the injury excuse as they have been doing in other cases.So they are mostly silent right now
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You've been saying it's a trash era, etc.
2010 wasn't great either. 2008 wasn't even that good at Wimbledon, Nadal got a washed up Schuettler as a SF opponent.
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If Fed's back wasn't "gone" he'd have hammered Nadal there too most likely.
Didn't see anything special from him to win the title and he beat Anderson. Lmao!
Slightly D1
Professional
2010 wasn’t great? Bruh... 2010-2014 was arguably one of the most dominant eras in tennis, a very dangerous Fed, a peaking Nadal/Djokovic and mix in an impressive supporting cast...You've been saying it's a trash era, etc.
2010 wasn't great either. 2008 wasn't even that good at Wimbledon, Nadal got a washed up Schuettler as a SF opponent.
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2010 wasn't great.
Only really great period I saw was 2011-2013ish. After that it was kinda meh.
Slightly D1
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He would have hammered Nadal but got beat up by the guy who proceeded to get beat up by Nadal. And do you want to go on record and admit that Federer’s struggles at USO series and then the Open itself were not injury related?
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Why is that every Nadal idolater on here tries desperately to diminish Federer's success and b**ch about competition just to make Nadal look better?
Federer lives rent free in your heads and he's all you think about even when Nadal is currently winning.
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Sure he would have.
Consistency goes down as you age. Look at your boy for example, could go out the first week of a major randomly then turn around and win the next.
Slightly D1
Professional
Okay, this is a clown thread at this point. Aging Agassi, Hewitt and Roddick was a greater era than Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Fed. You’re a troll at this point my dude. Can’t reason with an insane person
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Yeah, no one who calls tennis professionals trash should be taken seriously, let alone guys who actually won slams and were ranked no.1 in the world.He wasn't that debilitated post FO 2016 until his injury timeout in 2017 yet his results suffered. Why? It was a weak era.
We both know you didn't watch tennis from 1999 through to 2003 yet you're still commenting on the strength of the era.
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The era was more like this:
Hewitt, Agassi, Safin, Roddick, Federer, Haas, old man Sampras, Scud, Grosjean, Henman, and a whole other lot of good to great players in the top 30.
After that you had good floaters hanging around too that could upset you on a good day like Ancic.
A lot more depth than the period you're talking about. And you can only list 4 players, one of which wasn't really too much better than the guys you crap on.
Slightly D1
Professional
Look at the title and initial posts on this thread bud. I assume you can read some and can see that this entire website is 95% pro Fed and a solid portion of these goofy posts are focused on trying to create bail out excuses that can be used in the event that your worst nightmare occurs, Nadal ties and/or surpasses Fed.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
2010 and 2014 don't belong with those years.
Slightly D1
Professional
You’re lying to yourself for the sake of an argument on a tennis internet board and even your Fed friends will likely disagree with you on that one.The era was more like this:
Hewitt, Agassi, Safin, Roddick, Federer, Haas, old man Sampras, Scud, Grosjean, Henman, and a whole other lot of good to great players in the top 30.
After that you had good floaters hanging around too that could upset you on a good day like Ancic.
A lot more depth than the period you're talking about. And you can only list 4 players, one of which wasn't really too much better than the guys you crap on.
Also, if you would like me to name off some players that aren’t necessarily elite of the era such as you have done, Del Potro, Tsonga, Byrdych, Wawrinka, Cilic, Nishikori etc.
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Not really. I said 2011-2013 were better years and a better collective overall period.
But I don't think that of 2010. No way. That was a weak as hell year really. The USO had one of the weakest fields ever lmfao!
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Look at the previous thread similar to this started by a Nadal fanboy with the purpose of denigrating Federer just in case Nadal fails to pass him.
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
If you say so. Your words, not mine.
Slightly D1
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I don’t think anybody will say Nadal is necessarily the definitive GOAT unless he surpasses Fed. At least that’s my opinion.
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Del Potro - barely relevant.
Tsonga - mental fruitcake.
Berdych - lol.
Wawrinka - Not too dissimilar to Safin but that's only one guy.
Cilic - decent but not really great.
Nishikori - made of glass.
Lol.
Plamen1234
Hall of Fame
REXX who started the previous thread claimed to be "Fedal" fan.Now I dont believe in such thing as Fedal fan and he shows why I dont believe.Most of the Fedal fans are mainly Nadal fans actually.To look more objective some people claim to be "Fedal" fans and then go and trash Federer - they are not fooling anybody though
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
In 2010 the 2009 USO and WTF champions Delpo and Davydenko got injured after AO, Tsonga (top 10 from 2009) also injured, Djokovic not winning anything above 500 (the only year from 2007-2016), AO, IW and Miami champions going awol after their title runs and Fed still ended up with more top 10 wins than RAFA (RAFA swept the clay season by beating two top 10 players)
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Exactly. Federer fans will never claim they are Fedal fans. They are honest and admit they are Federer fans.
Those saying they are Fedal fans just do that to claim better objectivity in trashing Federer
Nothing but frauds and phoneys.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
LOL Federer and Djokovic sucked in 2010, did you even watch that year?
And Fed was an old man in 2014, just like Agassi was in 2003-2005. So if old man Fed is your argument for 2014 being strong, well you've really got nothing
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Not you in particular, but some of your homies.
Plamen1234
Hall of Fame
Exactly. Federer fans will never claim they are Fedal fans. They are honest and admit they are Federer fans.
Those saying they are Fedal fans just do that to claim better objectivity in trashing Federer
Exactly.I can trash Nadal and Djokovic without the need of pretending that I am "Fedalovic" fan ( just lol).If you dislike Federer - okay no problem but dont pretend to be his fan and then go and attack him.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
An uncomfortable truth for some.
And 2014 featured Cilic and Nishikori contesting a slam final.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Yeah, it's like there is a TTW police that arrests you if you troll Federer or Nadal without being the fan of both.
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Sometimes I feel like making a thread about 2010 being weak but so far I've decided against it.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Don't sink to their levelSometimes I feel like making a thread about 2010 being weak but so far I've decided against it.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
No he really doesn't.
Old man Fed owns current Rafa everywhere he plays.
Does the AO loss to a geriatric Fed still hurt?
Look how hopeless Federer made your boy look here.
Fisrt, AO Nadal was also geriatric, out of his prime and in his 30s. Importantly, Nadal had one day less to rest and a much larger SF of 5 hours.
Second, Nadal was injured in the Shanghai final. He got injured against Cilic in the SF and was wearing a bandage in the knee in the final (which was played on indoor due to rain):
Nadal had to withdrawn from Basel after Shanghai due to his injury.
“I sadly announce that I have to pull out of the Swiss Indoors Basel, after seeing my doctor in Spain just after landing from Shanghai,”
“I am suffering from an overstressing of the knee and the problems where already present at the tournament in Shanghai" -Nadal
Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ws-from-basel-with-knee-problem-idUSKBN1CN0BH
Nadal continued with his knee injury in Paris Bercy and the WTF.
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Excuses. Nadal was No. 1 in the world, played Federer 4 times and lost 4 times to him. Most of them being wallopings.Fisrt, AO Nadal was also geriatric, out of his prime and in his 30s. Importantly, Nadal had one day less to rest and a much larger SF of 5 hours.
Second, Nadal was injured in the knee in the Shanghai final. He got injured against Cilic in the SF and was wearing a bandage in the knee in the final (which was played on indoor due to rain):
Nadal had to withdrawn from Basel after Shanghai due to his injury.
“I sadly announce that I have to pull out of the Swiss Indoors Basel, after seeing my doctor in Spain just after landing from Shanghai,”
“I am suffering from an overstressing of the knee and the problems where already present at the tournament in Shanghai" -Nadal
Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ws-from-basel-with-knee-problem-idUSKBN1CN0BH
Sport
G.O.A.T.
How excuses? Then why was he wearing a bandage in the knee Einstein? Why did doctors say he had overstress of the knee? Why did he continue with the knee injury in Paris and the WTF after Shanghai? What does being #1 has to do with getting injured in the Shanghai SF against Cilic?
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Because it's an excuse. Every time Nadal loses usually there's an excuse. I picked Shanghai because of Federer's play, not Nadal's. Even if Nadal was at his USO best he wasn't touching that version of Federer.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
Untestable claim.
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