2020 Australian open final :- [5] Dominic Thiem v/s [2] Novak Djokovic

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vex

Legend
Djokovic (and Nadal) have lost their biggest asset. Thiem can outgrind them anywhere now (even Nadal at the FO). It takes one more guy like Thiem and the party's over for grandpas who should've been losing way more often way ealier than now.
This aged well lol

and just so I understand you hate Rafa/Djoker’s brand of tennis but welcome with open arms some discount, watered down version of them as your savior?
 
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tudwell

G.O.A.T.
Congrats to Novak for a well-earned win! Thiem fought hard but just couldn’t sustain the level required to hit through Djokovic consistently for five sets. No shame in that. Only one man has ever really been able to do that, and that beast has been chained and caged for a while now.

Now for f*ck’s sake can someone not eligible for Social Security win a damn major?
 

TennisFan3

Talk Tennis Guru
:unsure: Then the seedings rule needs to change so that #3 is always be in the bottom half..

Rafa was seeded #1 at the Australian Open. Djoker was seeded #2. Fed was seeded #3.
#1 Rafa and #2 Djoker were in seperate halves and guaranteed not to meet until the Finals.
#2 Djoker and #3 Fed were guaranteed to meet in the SF because #3 should always be in the second half.

Likewise, if the seedings at French are #1 Djoker, #2 Rafa and #3 Thiem, #2 Rafa and #3 Thiem will meet in the SF.

Sir. Tennis draws do not work that way. They should. But they do not.

#3 seed can be in top or bottom half. It is always random.
 

Rina

Hall of Fame
Why should Djokovic thank the audience? I'd be darned pleased if he really let them have it. "Thanks to those few who are from Serbian and supported me. To all Nadal and Fed fans who cheered my errors(especially in the fifth set) and are fake Dominic fans...bugger off."
They are only fueling Djokovic's fight to win more slams and take that record himself.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
Why should Djokovic thank the audience? I'd be darned pleased if he really let them have it. "Thanks to those few who are from Serbian and supported me. To all Nadal and Fed fans who cheered my errors(especially in the fifth set) and are fake Dominic fans...bugger off."
They are only fueling Djokovic's fight to win more slams and take that record himself.

Djoker does not need any more motivation. He said last year that his goal is to be the all-time slam winner.
Djoker is on a mission. The crowd support means nothing and he may actually feed on any negativity.
Djoker is more likeable than strange Rafa that spends half the match scratching himself.
 

Rina

Hall of Fame
Djoker does not need any more motivation. He said last year that his goal is to be the all-time slam winner.
Djoker is on a mission. The crowd support means nothing and he may actually feed on any negativity.
Djoker is more likeable than strange Rafa that spends half the match scratching himself.
You are right when you are right! Nadal's ocd is disgusting to watch for me. With all that sweat and touching, I am surprised he is not just one huge acne!
 

Rina

Hall of Fame
Thiem should have brought some Wiener schnitzel to get his energy up! Djokovic had a whole Serbian smorgasbord, according to irritating McEnroes!
 

WhiskeyEE

G.O.A.T.
Thiem continuing to squander his peak. It's only a matter of time before a lot of the younger guys surpass him.

There is no W in Thiem.

Congratz to Novak.
 
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I Am Finnish

Bionic Poster
Missed the first 2 sets

Happy that the match was not 1 sided and ended in 3 I thought thiem would take it in 4 cuz Djokovic was hopeless.
But out of nowhere he started to serve to better and clutch in the important moments i think this was Djokovic's toughest AO final imo though loss for Thiem but I still believe he will be a multi slam winner (like Djokovic said during his speech)
 

beard

Legend
Lew looks good, his shirt says it all.
will this guy be GOAT by winning more of these lucky slams by default because the other guy misses? (Thiem on about 50 routine FHs, Fed in double MP)

no chance. He could make it to 25 and jt

he wasn’t playing well though.... push the ball back in play is not good tennis. Thiem would’ve won this if he rallied with Djokovic instead of bulldozing every single ball like an idiot.
Hey, being so bitter can influence your helth...
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
will this guy be GOAT by winning more of these lucky slams by default because the other guy misses? (Thiem on about 50 routine FHs, Fed in double MP)

no chance. He could make it to 25 and jt

he wasn’t playing well though.... push the ball back in play is not good tennis. Thiem would’ve won this if he rallied with Djokovic instead of bulldozing every single ball like an idiot.

Djokovic missed just as much as Thiem this match (57 UEs each). And Djokovic hit almost 50 winners aswell. So your analysis of what you have seen is pretty clueless.

The right player was crowned the winner tonight. Djokovic was better in every crucial stat of the match. Djokovic had better winning % of his first serve, better % of 2nd serve points won, they approached the net almost the same amount of times and Djokovic was better here too, and Djokovic edged him on recieving points aswell.

So in every crucial stat Djokovic was ahead.
 

SonicNirvana

Hall of Fame
Djokovic (and Nadal) have lost their biggest asset. Thiem can outgrind them anywhere now (even Nadal at the FO). It takes one more guy like Thiem and the party's over for grandpas who should've been losing way more often way ealier than now.

i still see at least two more years where at least prt of the big three keep winning slams.
 

xFedal

Legend
Yeah, not a single next gen player has a noteworthy return. Mentally they're all pretty frail as well.

I really like Thiem but he broke himself several times at crucial moments and his decision making when making some of these returns has been poor too. I think Thiem will improve his serve but I'm not sure he'll be able to add much to his ROS.
Medvedev and thiem are very good returners..... they win 30%+ return games which is excellent.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Medvedev and thiem are very good returners..... they win 30%+ return games which is excellent.

Well for his career Thiem is at 20% of return games on HC. That's serve bot territory. Med was around 28% last year which is good but not quite elite.

Return games won is often more about baseline ability anyway e.g. Nadal. I don't think either guy is elite versus first serve points.
 

vex

Legend
What a roller coaster ride! Besides the match the thread was all over the place. Just hoping fedal never meet djokovic ever again in a major. Never want to hear about the scuses and the age obsession ever again.
Yeah you can’t expect an ATG to beat a strong peaking rival 6 years younger than him at a slam amirite? Haha
 

bjsnider

Hall of Fame
Lovely and valiant effort by Thiem, but he has a problem. His return game has improved int he past 4 years or so, but only to the point where it is now average. It's not a strength. He's incapable of consistently pressuring his opponent's serve. This is a problem with many younger players these days. They can wallop the ball, but that's not enough. Thiem has consistently improved his hold game every year, but his return game has stagnated for a few years. He's probably as good at the return as he can ever become. It's too easy for his opponents to hold against him. That's why Djokovic was able to go out and grab a smoke for a set and a half, and then come back and win the last 2 sets.
 

Rina

Hall of Fame
So Novak wins slams because the opponent misses?! Federer and Nadal never won a single thing because the opponent missed? Hypocrisy knows no bounds!
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Yeah you can’t expect an ATG to beat a strong peaking rival 6 years younger than him at a slam amirite? Haha
Lol can never happen. It was crazy how during the match all these theories and agendas were collapsing in on themselves. It was surreal. Well just got to enjoy the matches. It was an epic.
 
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Rickenbacker4003

Hall of Fame
Why should Djokovic thank the audience? I'd be darned pleased if he really let them have it. "Thanks to those few who are from Serbian and supported me. To all Nadal and Fed fans who cheered my errors(especially in the fifth set) and are fake Dominic fans...bugger off."
They are only fueling Djokovic's fight to win more slams and take that record himself.
You know why he didn’t say anything? Because he knows the fans always win. He will start losing and when he does guess who’ll be there to witness his decline? The crowd and they will revel in every second of it. No need to get even more hate. He’s well aware that the world outside of Serbia doesn’t and never did care for him. There was even a fan in the stands with a “Serbia vs The World.” T shirt on. His Serbian fans are even aware of it. Is it because they started World War II? Maybe for the older generation, but it’s mainly for his “try hard to love to me” personality and the way he carries himself on the court. Everywhere he plays, London, New York, Paris and Melbourne, etc. if it’s not for his little Serbian immigrant contingent they will always cheer for him to lose.
 
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netlets

Professional
You're correct I saw that also. I still can't stand it and wish they would play the semis on the same day, it's just stupid that they don't. No one should be able to kick back and watch the other semi with popcorn a full day after their match.

I definitely had an effect on Thiem in the 5th. Stats could be misleading - aside from Rafa's 5 set win, how many others went the distance? Really seems to be an issue if it's a long match.
 
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Tiki-Taka

Guest
For all the criticism about today's state of the field, a reminder that we have been treated to three memorable Slam finals in a row now. One between two all time greats, and then two between the greats and the rising stars. Plus a good match for the ATP Finals title between two younger players. It's safe to say the next generations are getting close, while we have these three phenomenons still entertaining us as well. Tennis is not so bad at all lately.

I have lost count how many times this guy has won after his opponent looked "in control" for good part of the match. And it takes a true champion's mind to not just come back but become dominant again after all the struggles that didn't happen long ago. Congratulations to Djokovic on another Slam and his return to the top of the rankings. Legendary player and a mental giant.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
For all the criticism about today's state of the field, a reminder that we have been treated to three memorable Slam finals in a row now. One between two all time greats, and then two between the greats and the rising stars. Plus a good match for the ATP Finals title between two younger players. It's safe to say the next generations are getting close, while we have these three phenomenons still entertaining us as well. Tennis is not so bad at all lately.

I have lost count how many times this guy has won after his opponent looked "in control" for good part of the match. And it takes a true champion's mind to not just come back but become dominant again after all the struggles that didn't happen long ago. Congratulations to Djokovic on another Slam and his return to the top of the rankings. Legendary player and a mental giant.
Its been a joke the whole time the lost generation was the main competition so that’s 10 years back that the decline started. And then the poly decline really started by 2004 with the big fours excellent baseline game sweeping aside the all court sheep. We’ve got a short window of excellence here where the big three, thiem and now maybe even Wawrinka take on the next GEN. Diamond Age heating up! Never been more crowded at the top.
 

World Beater

Hall of Fame
a huge victory for nole. he was favored and he pulled it out.

his march towards the record books continues...now its all eyes on nadal...
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Most of the tennis world should concede now that Nole is mentally toughest player....
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