The Blond Blur
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And who pray tell beat him after RG 2016
Fedheads want Thiem Year End #1?
- Thread starter Meles
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Third Serve
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All three slightly inaccurate.
Edberg "only" won three five-setters (plus a four-setter against Sampras in the final).
Fed also played three five-setters against Nishikori, Wawrinka, and Nadal. He played four sets against Melzer.
Stan's match vs. Djoker was a QF encounter. He played Berdych in an also-tight match in the semis.
MeatTornado
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Finals are a different beast though. All his wins against Nadal have been before the finals, be it Australia, Rome, Madrid, etc. He won that nail biting thriller against Novak in London last year (after beating Federer too) but then lost to Tsitsipas once he reached the final.
And yeah, he closed out that QF but I also remember failing to serve out the match (in a comical game) and blowing numerous match points. Fortunately for him, he kept giving himself enough opportunities to finally close it out.
Tennis_Freak99
Legend
First things first, let him get through Madlad today, which is certainly not a given
StrongRule
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With Thiem you never know how he will play. He can play a terrible match and then play his best in the next tournament, or vice versa. For example, Nadal schooled him 6-0 6-2 in MC 2018, but when they met in Madrid that year Thiem won. I don't see a reason why Thiem can't suddenly bring his best in RG as well. Nadal is long past his prime, I'm not sure how long he will be able to get away with it.And who pray tell beat him after RG 2016
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Who's this? Djokovic has 5 YEC's, true, but he's not anywhere CLOSE to one of the greatest indoor players ever. He's way behind Fed, Lendl, Sampras and Becker there.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Who else would he be behind?
Federev
Legend
True logic: Federer peak incoming 2022
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
What do all those matches have in common? They’re BO3. In BO5 you have to be able to focus and maintain your top level for a longer period of time. Timmy is much more streaky than RAFA and that’s the main reason he’s failed to break through. RAFA’s been past his prime since AO 2014 and all he’s done since then is win 4 more RG’s 3 of which were in a row.
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There will be no tennis stat more asterisked than 2020 YE No.1.
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
Let's see in a month. The only way for Thiem to prove he can beat Nadal at RG is...well, you know.
abmk
Bionic Poster
thiem did beat Nadal at AO 2020.
Federev
Legend
There is a first time for everything.
But not a first Thiem for everything.
He has not even come close to beating Rafa in a RG final.
He won’t do it this year I don’t think. I’d need to see him get actually close first to have any faith.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Yes, I know, but it's not the French Open final. Thiem also should have defeated Nadal in the 2018 USO final and couldn't get it done. Obviously if Thiem meets Rafa in the FO final in October, I'll be rooting for him to deny Nadal #20. But I would still give Rafa a 98.8% chance for the win.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
VB still going to insist all slams from 03 to 07 are more asterisked than this.
Federev
Legend
How dare you try to pick anymore fights w the VB.
That’s a violation of the Laver Peace Accords of 2017.
Breakpointerer
Legend
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
But we all know this was the best match of the tournament.
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clout
Hall of Fame
If Nadal's ancient at 34 then what are Fed and Serena at 39 lol. Dinosaur era representatives?
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Honestly, Fedr's effort last year at RG was just as good as Thiem's 2018 effort.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Borg is the only player in the Open Era who may be mentally up to the task of doing it.
From Fed to Djoker to Thiem, they have all proven unable to do it.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
And Rafa wouldn't take 5 sets to beat Djoker last year anyway.
That match with Joker only went 2 days and the 2nd day was only a little over a set long. If he actually came close to winning I’d entertain the idea. But given what actually happened Timmy can only claim the moral schlem.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I'm willing to bet it won't be Timmy.we see this time and time again and slam as the player with a rough road goes down in the final. Care to list exceptions. 2018 Not even remotely even Ground.
in a month will see who’s holding the title.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Fed played 3 five setters, not 4.
DSH
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mike danny
Bionic Poster
The real final.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
To be honest, Nadal's quarter looked like a tournament of its own. In the bottom half it was Djokovic against nobodies. (given that Federer was totally out of form)
BeatlesFan
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DSH
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Wrong!
He won 3 consecutive five setters against Krajicek, Lendl and Chang, respectively.
And Federer also won 3 matches in five sets but no consecutively.
DSH
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Meles
Bionic Poster
Edberg wool pants era stuff. Check on Stanimal. Last I checked badal went five Dimatrough at the 2017 Australian open.
Feds draw was so good I predicted him to make the final in the tournament despite the handwringerering.
Meles
Bionic Poster
Check on that, but Tim has pulled plug on Rome so potential 990 point gain gone.
Meles
Bionic Poster
So you have Tim as some kind of peak goat should he win the 2020 French Open?
Thiem is goating:If Tim sweeps both:
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Appreciate the optimism, but one of these years he will overtake Nadal. And he is in great form.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Well, sure, one of these days Thiem will overtake Nadal on clay, but that will be when Rafa is ancient or already retired. Consider that when Rafa was Domi's age, he had already won eight (8!!!!) FO's.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Meles, you act as if dethroning Rafa in an RG final happens every day. Thiem choked massively and repeatedly against lowly Zverev in that dude's first slam final. But he's not going to choke in gargantuan fashion if he meets Rafa again at RG? Thiem is 0-3 against Rafa there. He hasn't got a chance in hell!
TennisManiac
Hall of Fame
Anything is possible
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
By becoming the YE #1 Thiem would prevent Djokovic gaining weeks at #1
Beckerserve
Legend
Unless the FO is the bigger Major prestige wise? Players are so polite we will never know the answer to that though
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
I don’t really care about the YE#1 record as much as others do, but I do want Thiem to end in that spot. Either him or Nadal (though it’d be kinda weird if Nadal did it while having less weeks overall than Fed or Djoker).
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
YE#1 should not be awarded in 2020.
Beckerserve
Legend
Dont laugh but if one man is ever to do it then it would be Federer even at 40. Last year although he got blown off court (literally remember the wind) in the 1st set i felt at times he was all over Rafa but the wind meant he could not really go for his shots. If next june they meet in the final and it was 20-20 Major count wise id put money on Federer. Nobody would pick him so he would be relaxed and when relaxed he is obviously still today the best player in the world. His natural ability is on another level.
TennisHockey
Rookie
Fedheads want Thiem Year End #1?
No ****. Those who say otherwise are simply lying.
No ****. Those who say otherwise are simply lying.
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
9125 points, passes Nadal with RG
Fed Heads celebrate above; loving it?
Are you saying that the Fedheads are in panicked ? In agony ? Or what ?
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
You mean a New World Order???
Somebody needs to photoshop these guys' heads with the Fearsome Four's (Thiem, Zed, Med, Tsitsipas). Although Tsits is in a bit of a slump, he'll come around eventually....if he doesn't get replaced by Jannik Sinner. Although a Fearsome Five would be awesome!
Meles
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