I was going to post that video, you beat me to it. I would take Karue's advice of that of Tennis Spin any day of the week. The two coaches on Tennis Spin are obviously good players, and I would definitely hear what they have to say, but Tennis Spin himself is a clown who doesn't have an idea what he's talking about half the time.
Back to Karue, I am really looking forward to his full review of the new Vcore 95. He makes a lot of interesting remarks on this preview.
I think that the flex is key in how the ball reacts. The VC98.18 has the best feel of the bunch, but the flexy nature is a little less precise in response. The VC98.21 is closer to the SV98 in that the stiffness directs the ball better.If I played on hard courts I would go for the 95 but on clay the 98 is the winner for me mainly due to the long rallies, dealing with heavy spin and forgiveness. Same thing as the previous version, I switched from the 95 to the 98 and sure I miss the feel but I play better with the 98. They seemed to have fixed that only problem I saw with the 98 which was the ball pocketing.
If I played on hard courts I would go for the 95 but on clay the 98 is the winner for me mainly due to the long rallies, dealing with heavy spin and forgiveness. Same thing as the previous version, I switched from the 95 to the 98 and sure I miss the feel but I play better with the 98. They seemed to have fixed that only problem I saw with the 98 which was the ball pocketing.
how is it that Tennis spin is giving the new Vcore 98 the BEST racket of 2021. is he big time yonex fan ?
Where have you negative feedback on the 95? I'm in the same camp as you, I wouldn't mind picking up some of the outgoing gen on discount if it's the better racquet.
I don't want to mislead anyone. It's all hearsay or first impressions at this point. The "Nerd" posted in his patreon that he measured his 95 2021 to have ridiculously low SW (312.5) yet somehow a lot more powerful than the current. To be completely fair, he didn't like the current 95 either so... grain of salt.
I believe AI used Prince?Simple ... it has AI infused technology.
Just watched his first impressions review on the 98 & 95 and while their static weight and balance were pretty much spot on, the swing weight was off, too low that is, on both. Just like Spin-Harry the Nerd found the 98 to be an improvement over the predecessor whereas he wasn't at all that impressed about the new 95.Take a look at the first pic, the 98 on the scale, in Tennisnerd's Vcore preview. This is what I call quality control.
I think that the flex is key in how the ball reacts. The VC98.18 has the best feel of the bunch, but the flexy nature is a little less precise is response. The VC98.21 is closer to the SV98 in that the stiffness directs the ball better.
I used to hate playing on clay with a 90 frame, trying to deal with less than precise bounces and spin against guys with 95+ racquets. When I saw Fed play on clay, I thought that guy had the best hand eye coordination and reaction times ever to play consistently at that level on clay! What a difference 5-10 sq inches makes!
When you write best feel of the bunch, are you referring to the VCore 98 iterations (i.e. SV98/VCore 98 '18/VCore 98 '21)? Or is this incl the Vcore 95s?
I'm currently playing with the Extreme Tour, which I like, but having played for quite a while with both the SV98 and Vcore 98 '18, I'm excited if this new version is closer to the SV98. Ime, that racket was a great power racket, that lacked a bit in the feel department, whereas the Vcore '98 had better feel, but was a little anemic. Then otoh, so are the Extreme Tours. Great depth, height (ball trajectory) and spin, but lacks that crisp power, that the SV98 had.
I loved the Vcore '95 as well, and actually regret leaving it for a run of Babolat PS. But with the new specs, I'm not so sure the new ones are better choice than the new Vcore 98, even though for me VCore 95 '18 > VCore 98 '18. So now, I'm debating buying: Vcore 95 '21, Vcore 98 '21, G360+ Radical MP or Pro ...
The SV95 is still the most beautiful Yonex to me. Also because of its inner beauty of course.The racket is actually way prettier in real life than in pictures somehow. I have both next to me right now and I'd take this one any day.
Yeah, that is a gorgeous frame.The SV95 is still the most beautiful Yonex to me. Also because of its inner beauty of course.
Only hit with it for 30min, but the new one is more muted. Power/spin seem similar, but understand I’m coming from a weighted 2018 VCORE 98 + to a stock 2021 VCORE 98 standard length. I hope to have more info after the weekend. Check the play test thread later next week.Can anyone compare 'old' vcore 98 to the new model?
What is the difference? Wondering if I should order new one, or the old one.
Whoa, you already have the 2028 VC 98+?!Only hit with it for 30min, but the new one is more muted. Power/spin seem similar, but understand I’m coming from a weighted 2028 VCORE 98 + to a stock 2021 VCORE 98 standard length. I hope to have more info after the weekend. Check the play test thread later next week.
Didn’t I mention that I’m from the future?Whoa, you already have the 2028 VC 98+?!
*Just messing with you.
That’s heavy, Marty McLovin.Didn’t I mention that I’m from the future?
-can you elavorate ,"a bit more" on this??Only hit with it for 30min, but the new one is more muted. Power/spin seem similar, but understand I’m coming from a weighted 2018 VCORE 98 + to a stock 2021 VCORE 98 standard length. I hope to have more info after the weekend. Check the play test thread later next week.
As far as the 'muted' comment, its basically the same 'feeling' as the new EZONEs, and I attribute that 100% to the VDM. It almost gives the feeling that it is more flexible than it is (I've not seen any 'official' RDC numbers for this yet, so it may actually be more flexible). I like the way it feels on contact. The previous version was a little 'raw', but I endured and adjusted because I liked the results w/ that frame so much.-can you elavorate ,"a bit more" on this??
-did you feel like it would it need as much weight (added latter) as your previous version? in the same locations?
I really appreciate you trying to answer the question even though you were enduring pain while playing. However, I must say that a true playtest for me is only during a real match play. Watching these Tennis Spin Videos on a court on which they can barely walk on is ridiculous. Come on, yeah, the feel on shots through the middle maybe but anything else is so different when you are caught off balance during match play.As far as the 'muted' comment, its basically the same 'feeling' as the new EZONEs, and I attribute that 100% to the VDM. It almost gives the feeling that it is more flexible than it is (I've not seen any 'official' RDC numbers for this yet, so it may actually be more flexible). I like the way it feels on contact. The previous version was a little 'raw', but I endured and adjusted because I liked the results w/ that frame so much.
EDIT: Just went over to TW Europe and saw their #s for the 98. Apparently it comes in 1 RDC point stiffer (previous was 65, new is 66).
As far as added weight, it is tough to say after 1 set of doubles where I could hardly move due to my lower back, but I did hit a couple of really good returns with it (when I didn't have to move for the return). The frame felt stable throughout the swing. Now...will I get the plow that I get with my '+' that is ~ 10g heavier (and likely 20-25 'SW points' higher)? That is unlikely.
Like I said earlier, I'm drilling w/ my doubles partner Saturday morning. I'll get a better idea as we'll likely warm up w/ forehands & backhands cross-court, and I can hit for 5 minutes with my current frame, then switch back to the new one and compare.
I agree, but I only just received the frame (for the TW Playtest) on Tuesday. Strung it up that evening, and played doubles Wednesday. Additionally, I'm finishing up the TW Playtest for the Poly Tour REV string, so I had to play the first couple of sets w/ that, and by then my back was a mess (my serve isn't powerful to begin with, but I was probably in the mid 65s and it was getting destroyed).I really appreciate you trying to answer the question even though you were enduring pain while playing. However, I must say that a true playtest for me is only during a real match play. Watching these Tennis Spin Videos on a court on which they can barely walk on is ridiculous. Come on, yeah, the feel on shots through the middle maybe but anything else is so different when you are caught off balance during match play.
this Fukky is good. what level is he ? UTR 14 ?i always enjoy watching these guys play
I knew you couldn’t resist... hehe.I just pre-ordered two 2021 VC98 weight matched with yellow PTP1.25 at 22 kg/48.5 lbs, my preferred configuration. Coming from previous version albeit Galaxy and with leather grip it will be interesting to test this in the coming month.
I don't see why they wouldn't release + models. They did for the EZ, so the VC will probably follow suit. I'd be interested in the 98+.Are they keeping the 100 +?
this Fukky is good. what level is he ? UTR 14 ?
NTRP 5-7. UK 1-4. UTR is more difficult, I'd say 10.5up.Anyone know how to compare the German rating system to the US or UK system? I usually play with ppl between LK1-7 in Germany.
Will vcore 100 2021 be more comfortable than ezone? Less stiffness and less string density should be an advantage for vcore. This version have also vdm
Anyone know how to compare the German rating system to the US or UK system? I usually play with ppl between LK1-7 in Germany.
It does feel less stiff, and the muted feel is more similar to the EZ.20 than say the VC.18.Will vcore 100 2021 be more comfortable than ezone? Less stiffness and less string density should be an advantage for vcore. This version have also vdm
I'm quite sure LK7 is more NTRP 5.0 since ITN 3=NTRP 5.0. I wasn't allowed to play below ITN 2 comps and I'm NTRP 5.5-6.0/ITN 2, but my Deutsch buddy can and he's a LK5. This info is 2018 stuff when I tried to play a warm up comp in Germany, and I know that DTB has a new ranking system in 2020, so I may be wrong.LK1 = comparable to NTRP 7.0. LK7 is like NTRP 6.0-6.5
Well ratings are just to categorize players. UTR 13 U15 juniors can't beat older 12s adults etc etc. As for racquets, it's really what we grew up with. Lighter racquets are more in the 90s onwards, taking over in the 00s, and graphite racquets from the 80s were still pretty past the 320g range, coming from the wood age. So juniors evolve into seniors and will add weight or find racquets that fit their evolving game. Nothing new. Sort of like life, as a kid you need something lighter, then you grow and use something heavier, then as you age, you go lighter again, IF you want to maintain some sort of semblance to the game you played, for as long as possible, that includes bigger frames etc.I mean it’s just to know an approximate comparison. I mean most of my older friends are like LK3-7 as they are over 40 and don’t play any tournaments anymore. My younger buddies that I play with between 16 and 25 are LK1-3 as they are playing a lot of tournaments still. But in reality the best player in our club is an LK7 but used to play Bundesliga for a long time. And I can easily win over some of the younger LK1-3 dudes while having a lot of issues against him or a LK5 guy who just turned 30.
I’m just always wondering what 4.0 or 4.5 means. And then reading that some of those guys are playing with really, really heavy racquets. Now I wonder even more.
Most of the younger dudes play with quite light racquets while the mix in the higher age category goes from 300 - 340 unstrung.
I think it’s so interesting how a lot you out here rely on these reviews so much. Sometimes a new racquet comes out and everybody here likes it and then the review gives some negatives and everybody is switching out of the racquet again. It’s not that good after all... I mean yeah, they wanna sell new racquets and they’re doing a great job in convincing so many people here that the new generation is so much better, you need to buy it! It’s actually funny how easy this works. Yeah, why comment even, I’m asking this myself, so I’m out of here.TW video reviews are up for the 95 and 100! General impressions confirm the more muted feel, which seems a little polarizing. Thanks TW, looking forward to the written reviews.
hows your wta tour coming?this Fukky is good. what level is he ? UTR 14 ?
You are right but your phrasing and wording need some work or you need to find something else to keep your thoughts preoccupied. The person you are replying to wasn't even talking about how the racquets were better than the previous generation.I think it’s so interesting how a lot you out here rely on these reviews so much. Sometimes a new racquet comes out and everybody here likes it and then the review gives some negatives and everybody is switching out of the racquet again. It’s not that good after all... I mean yeah, they wanna sell new racquets and they’re doing a great job in convincing so many people here that the new generation is so much better, you need to buy it! It’s actually funny how easy this works. Yeah, why comment even, I’m asking this myself, so I’m out of here.
Peace out!
Keep buying everyone, if you really think that makes you a better player, or at least a happier person! Haha.