Red Rick
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Del Potro is just Kyrgios but with tanking replaced by injury.Legendary stuff from GOATpotro.
Makes like 5 UFE in the second set tiebreak, tanks the 4th set, and plays bang average in the 5th set
Del Potro really has given us loads of outstanding matches: Federer vs Del Potro 2009 RG extended highlights
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BackhandDTL
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RS
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5th set was a solid set. Djokovic played passive Murray tennis.
NatF
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Yes he's almost as bad as Murray on clay.
Red Rick
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Tell me which of the following is Del Potro's best RG win
Cilic
Tsonga
Berdych
Isner
and which one is better than Wawrinka or Ferrer.
Also which of his 250 wins is better than Murray's 1000 wins which included straight set wins over Nadal and Djokovic.
Or are we back in Natfland where reality is made up and facts don't matter
BackhandDTL
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AnOctorokForDinner
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Which great wins on clay did Murray have at the time of 2011 Rome? Does that mean his Rome vs Djokovic was krap? Or, it retroactively becomes epic because of his later achievements? The future redefines the past?
RS
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Del Potro was more competitive than Murray outside 12-13 in his best slams too.
Look at the fight he gave Nadal in Wim 11 were Murray was stomped after set 1 even on grass.
Gazelle
G.O.A.T.
Well, maybe Fed really had to pee.
It's not like Joe who takes mto's because his toe itches.
NatF
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Look at you trying to prattle off those Murray accomplishments like the good little simp you are
My post in this thread was literally, "Del Potro was good in this match, would be tough for anyone but Nadal but I'm not going to say he beats X and Y necessarily". I wasn't saying Del Potro was better or more accomplished on clay than Murray with my retort, I simply mocking your argument.Del Potro played really well here, don't care about his win/loss record against the top 10 before or after. What's Soderling's record against the top 5 and top 10 on clay? Not great, probably worse than Del Potro's IIRC but that doesn't mean he wasn't playing great tennis at the FO in 2009 or 2010.
Better to live in Red Rick land where Murray has as many slams as Agassi and Kleenex shares are through the roof.
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RS
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Nadal was playing great in both but Murray missed a FH early in the 2nd game then easy ride onwards.
Del Potro kept fighting till the end.
TearTheRoofOff
G.O.A.T.
So what? He played great stuff in this match.
Red Rick
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It was a good match but not nearly the epic it's made out to be. When people compare him to Soderling or Wawrinka based on this match I can't help but rest my head in my hands.
RS
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Cool. How would you rate just the AO 12 SF?
TearTheRoofOff
G.O.A.T.
Well then that's the point of contention, then. As for his overall record on the surface; you're swiftly disappearing down Lew Avenue with that approach.
BackhandDTL
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That's not me, guys.
Red Rick
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Outliers are only gonna be so much better than an average, and just cause it went 5 vs Federer doesn't mean it was it was super amazeballs. Federer went 5 sets vs Tommy Haas that same tournament as well. Federer wasn't that great on clay in 2009, it was the year Djokovic and then Soderling decided to end Nadal on clay which led to Federer winning Madrid and then RG.
RS
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Tokyo 2011 last set is 11/10 lol.
TearTheRoofOff
G.O.A.T.
True enough, but the very fact people rate the former more highly seems to go against the notion that the 5 sets was the defining parameter anyway. Fed was good enough; was crafty with his shots (e.g. dropshots), decked Nadal at Madrid (yeah yeah long semifinal. Didn't seem to do much of anything at the AO) and put on a clinic in the RG final. Prob still loses to Nadal, yes, but I find that a fairly useless barometer here.
abmk
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Legendary stuff from GOATpotro.
Makes like 5 UFE in the second set tiebreak, tanks the 4th set, and plays bang average in the 5th set
ha ha ha
clueless fed hating bitterboy who doesn't know sh*t.
delpo of RG 2009 SF 2nd set played clearly better than stan in RG 2015 2nd set before the TB . It probably wouldn't even go to a TB.
if not for federer playing really well, 2nd set wouldn't even go to a TB. Delpo played a below TB with 3 UEs, but fed played an excellent one and it was delpo's only flaw in 1st 3 sets.
As far as djoko of RG 2015 final 2nd set is concerned, delpo of RG 2009 SF 2nd set would ROFLSTOMP him. (taking the set in a vaccum)
wawr gifted djoko the break in set1 with all UEs.
Similarly at start of set4 with 3 UEs out of 4 points lost
Also dug himself into a hole at 3-4 in the 4th set with 3 UEs, but was able to clutch it out.
Not much of a difference b/w delpo of RG 2009 5th set and stan RG 2015 2nd set. So both were bang average?
Accounting for 2015 RG being slower than 2009 RG, there isn't much of a difference b/w Delpo 5th set and Stan 2nd set.
Reality is both were above average.
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RS
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If only Murray pulled it off so we say Nadal vs Lendlray
abmk
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no, it was amazeballs because it was. Delpo played absolutely phenomenal in sets 1-3 (minus 2nd set TB), fairly well in set 5.
Just because Djoko went 5 sets vs Seppi doesn't mean Tsonga didn't play pretty well vs Djokovic in the QF (well for 2.5 sets atleast)
Fed match vs Haas was after Nadal was eliminated by Soderling. So its not a surprise he shaky under the pressure (djoko was already eliminated before)
Fed played great vs Monfils in the QF and GOATEd vs Soderling in the final.
The Acusaso and Haas matches were the only ones where he wasn't good.
RS
Bionic Poster
I thought he put it is a 7.5?NatF: Murray Djokovic USO 2012 — 6.5
NatF
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Originally put it as a 6.5, think last thing I said was that it should be a 7.
It was a error filled match with fairly weak ballstriking due to the wind, obviously if I were to extrapolate for non-windy conditions it would have probably been 8+. I try to rate on an absolute scale though...
JoelSandwich
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Can’t we just appreciate a great match
RS
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A person made a mention of it in the best sets ever so I went with 11.7/10
Best result.
BackhandDTL
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abmk
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Red Rick
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What part of TTW did you miss?
RS
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Yeah it was a joke but never thought I would see somebody mention it.
RS
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I think Murray was better in Wimbeldon in the same year and a Federer beat the best Murray in 4.It’s utterly brainless to not consider the exogenous variables
JoelSandwich
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I mean yeah fair point lol but still
RS
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Sampras fans don’t like Hewitt mentioned so why not.I should nominate YEC 2000 RR second set, Hewitt bagelling Sampras
RS
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Splitting hairs my comment had a MO.
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
Rusty EXPOSING Sampras for being a one-dimensional GLORIFIED SERVEBOT. Finally faces someone who can RETURN unlike all the WEAK ERA servebot MUGS from the 90's, and he CRUMBLES like the FRAUD he is. ROFLMAO!!!I should nominate YEC 2000 RR second set, Hewitt bagelling Sampras
NoleIsBoat
Hall of Fame
Djokovic Del potro H2H -> 16 - 4
Slam H2H -> 5 - 0 (including 4 set win at RG)
Strong opponent
Slam H2H -> 5 - 0 (including 4 set win at RG)
Strong opponent
Hitman
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This match was a war. Del Potro was bringing out some massive bombs, Federer was getting manhandled for a lot of the match. Watching this live, it looked like De Potro was on his way to the final. Federer won that match the hard way, no doubt.
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