Del Potro really has given us loads of outstanding matches: Federer vs Del Potro 2009 RG extended highlights

[RS]

Great set from Hewitt but not actually GOAT set worthy tbh. Up there in terms of passing and returning but many other nominations better.

Never saw that set but the USO 01 sets were impressive.

 

[BackhandDTL]

Rusty EXPOSING Sampras for being a one-dimensional GLORIFIED SERVEBOT. Finally faces someone who can RETURN unlike all the WEAK ERA servebot MUGS from the 90's, and he CRUMBLES like the FRAUD he is. ROFLMAO!!!

Hewitt was crying for his nappies and diapers once Wodgi completed puberty.

A couple of fluke wins against a post prime PETE with tough draws and now Hewitt is someone worth discussing?

Might as well be discussing Millman then ROFLMAO

 

[BackhandDTL]

I thought he put it is a 7.5?

No he didn't. But yeah, you should stick with being the pigeon of a fake historian.

Thats what you do best

 

[Red Rick]

God what a shocker of a 2nd set tiebreak.

 

[abmk]

God what a shocker of a 2nd set tiebreak.

Also: 2nd set TB of Soderling vs Nadal in 2009 4R.

Also: what a shocker of a game by Stan to get broken in the 1st set vs djoko
what a shocker of a game by Stan to get broken in the 4th set vs djoko

 

[NatF]

Never saw that set but the USO 01 sets were impressive.

Hewitt read the Sampras serve maybe better than anyone, though obviously this wasn't peak Sampras.

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

Djokovic Del potro H2H -> 16 - 4
Slam H2H -> 5 - 0 (including 4 set win at RG)

Strong opponent

Absolute mug. No wonder Djokovic cried when he lost to him in Rio.

 

[RS]

No he didn't. But yeah, you should stick with being the pigeon of a fake historian.

Thats what you do best

I know he didn’t lol.

On one threads months before he did but then he downgraded it a bit.

 

[zagor]

Hewitt read the Sampras serve maybe better than anyone, though obviously this wasn't peak Sampras.

Sampras said Hewitt has a better return of serve than Agassi. Obviously both Pete and Andre were past their prime at that point.


Q. Is he a better returner than Andre at this point?


PETE SAMPRAS: Yeah.


Q. Why?


PETE SAMPRAS: Because he's quicker. Maybe doesn't have quite the power, but he doesn't miss. You know, he's very tough to ace. He's got the hands and the feet, it's phenomenal. Really pretty impressive stuff.

ASAP Sports Transcripts - Tennis - 2001 - US OPEN - September 9 - Pete Sampras

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[RS]

Hewitt read the Sampras serve maybe better than anyone, though obviously this wasn't peak Sampras.

Was a great returner. Nearly as good as somebody like Murray in best years.

 

[NatF]

Was a great returner. Nearly as good as somebody like Murray in best years.

Better against S&V, bit worse otherwise.

 

[NatF]

Sampras said Hewitt has a better return of serve than Agassi. Obviously both Pete and Andre were past their prime at that point.


Q. Is he a better returner than Andre at this point?


PETE SAMPRAS: Yeah.


Q. Why?


PETE SAMPRAS: Because he's quicker. Maybe doesn't have quite the power, but he doesn't miss. You know, he's very tough to ace. He's got the hands and the feet, it's phenomenal. Really pretty impressive stuff.

ASAP Sports Transcripts - Tennis - 2001 - US OPEN - September 9 - Pete Sampras

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Yeah, Hewitt made the Sampras second serve look pedestrian at times very good at reaching balls and getting them low to the feet.

 

[RS]

Better against S&V, bit worse otherwise.

Got a new thread btw its 2007 vs 2015.

 

[Hitman]

Yeah, Hewitt made the Sampras second serve look pedestrian at times very good at reaching balls and getting them low to the feet.

Hewitt loved that target, he gave Henman all kinds of trouble also. Becker wasn't too fond of playing him either, and that was back in the late 90s.

 

[clout]

De Potro was an awesome part of the big 3/4 generation despite not always being there due to injuries. He's played in so many epic matches.

At Majors:
- 2009 RG vs Federer
- 2009 USO vs Fedal
- 2011 WI vs Nadal
- 2012 RG vs Federer
- 2013 WI vs Djoker
- 2016 WI upsetting Stan
- 2017 USO vs Thiem/Fed/Nadal
- 2018 WI vs Nadal

At Masters:
- 2009 Miami vs Nadal/Murray
- 2009 Montreal vs Nadal/Roddick/Murray
- 2012 Madrid vs Berdych
- 2013 Indian Wells vs Djokovic/Nadal
- 2013 Cincy vs Isner
- 2013 Shanghai vs Djokovic
- 2017 Shanghai vs Federer
- 2017 Bercy vs Isner
- 2018 Indian Wells vs Federer
- 2019 Rome vs Djokovic

At Olympics:
- 2012 London vs Federer/Djokovic
- 2016 Rio vs Djokovic/Nadal/Murray

At Davis Cups:
- 2008 finals vs Lopez
- 2011 finals vs Nadal
- 2016 semis vs Murray
- 2016 finals vs Cilic

At WTF:
- 2009 vs Fed/Murray/Verdasco/Soderling (ran outta gas in the F vs Davy)
- 2012 vs Fed/Ferrer/Djoker
- 2013 vs Fed/Djoker/Gasquet

 

[BackhandDTL]

Was a great returner. Nearly as good as somebody like Murray in best years.

Lmao.

Hewitt isin't really comparable to Murray when we are talking about returning serves of baseliner guys.

 

[-snake-]

Wins under 40% vs top 10 on clay. Under 20% vs top 5.

Not even Zverev level.

Relying all the time on stats is the most virgin/millenial thing one can do, buddy. Stop embarassing yourself. Have some dignity.

 

[Red Rick]

Relying all the time on stats is the most virgin/millenial thing one can do, buddy. Stop embarassing yourself. Have some dignity.

Stop the count.

 

[mike danny]

De Potro was an awesome part of the big 3/4 generation despite not always being there due to injuries. He's played in so many epic matches.

At Majors:
- 2009 RG vs Federer
- 2009 USO vs Fedal
- 2011 WI vs Nadal
- 2012 RG vs Federer
- 2013 WI vs Djoker
- 2016 WI upsetting Stan
- 2017 USO vs Thiem/Fed/Nadal
- 2018 WI vs Nadal

At Masters:
- 2009 Miami vs Nadal/Murray
- 2009 Montreal vs Nadal/Roddick/Murray
- 2012 Madrid vs Berdych
- 2013 Indian Wells vs Djokovic/Nadal
- 2013 Cincy vs Isner
- 2013 Shanghai vs Djokovic
- 2017 Shanghai vs Federer
- 2017 Bercy vs Isner
- 2018 Indian Wells vs Federer
- 2019 Rome vs Djokovic

At Olympics:
- 2012 London vs Federer/Djokovic
- 2016 Rio vs Djokovic/Nadal/Murray

At Davis Cups:
- 2008 finals vs Lopez
- 2011 finals vs Nadal
- 2016 semis vs Murray
- 2016 finals vs Cilic

At WTF:
- 2009 vs Fed/Murray/Verdasco/Soderling (ran outta gas in the F vs Davy)
- 2012 vs Fed/Ferrer/Djoker
- 2013 vs Fed/Djoker/Gasquet

Problem is, he usually loses most of those epic matches against the Big 3.

 

[RS]

Lmao.

Hewitt isin't really comparable to Murray when we are talking about returning serves of baseliner guys.

Close in level to Murray as well just a bit worse.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Problem is, he usually loses most of those epic matches against the Big 3.

Like Fed

 

[mike danny]

Like Fed

Yep, that's why they're good buddies.

Fed, of course, throws the big man a bone every once in a while.

 

[zagor]

Man, Fed's defense on the BH side used to be so slick. Delpo was pummeling the ball off both sides, easy to forget he actually had a great BH prior to start of the wrist issues in 2010.

Definitely one of Fed's most impressive wins at the FO for me.

 

[ForehandCross]

Man, Fed's defense on the BH side used to be so slick. Delpo was pummeling the ball off both sides, easy to forget he actually had a great BH prior to start of the wrist issues in 2010.

Definitely one of Fed's most impressive wins at the FO for me.

That's what I liked about it, that BH defensive slice was a sponge, and keeps landing balls in deep and in weird positions.
Any big hitter in a zone can end making errors on them .

 

[zagor]

That's what I liked about it, that BH defensive slice was a sponge, and keeps landing balls in deep and in weird positions.
Any big hitter in a zone can end making errors on them .

Fed's defensive BH slice was always of his best shots, nothing new. It's actually one of things Stan improved when he morphed into a slam contender and of the things a guy like Dimitrov doesn't do well which hurts his overall defense despite being fast and great athlete.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Fed's defensive BH slice was always of his best shots, nothing new. It's actually one of things Stan improved when he morphed into a slam contender and of the things a guy like Dimitrov doesn't do well which hurts his overall defense despite being fast and great athlete.

Federer likes the tripe.

 

[zagor]

Federer likes the tripe.

That horrible smile lol, guy playing Ritchie did such a good job.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

That horrible smile lol, guy playing Ritchie did such a good job.

The picture of AJ is most amusing And yeah, Richie pulled it off well for his size. So menacing.

 

[RS]

Del Potro RG 09 vs Djokovic RG 11 who played Federer better in the loss?

 

[RS]

Problem is, he usually loses most of those epic matches against the Big 3.

He put a better fight in many them than Roddick , Hewitt and Murray did in matches vs guys who owned them which is very impressive.

 

[mike danny]

He put a better fight in many them than Roddick , Hewitt and Murray did in matches vs guys who owned them which is very impressive.

True.

But nice baiting

 

[zagor]

The picture of AJ is most amusing And yeah, Richie pulled it off well for his size. So menacing.

Those Manson lamps lol.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

That horrible smile lol, guy playing Ritchie did such a good job.

The jackeeet.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

The picture of AJ is most amusing And yeah, Richie pulled it off well for his size. So menacing.

The drawing

 

[Poisoned Slice]

The jackeeet.

What's this?

What's this? It's the jackeeeet.

The jacket?

The jackeeeeet Roger Federer wore at Wimbledon. Look at this fine Corinthian leather.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

What's this?

What's this? It's the jackeeeet.

The jacket?

The jackeeeeet Roger Federer wore at Wimbledon. Look at this fine Corinthian leather.

Racket handle-sucker had the reputation of being the toughest guy in SW19. But he never came back when Richie was done with him.

He later retired of Alzheimer's...

 

[zagor]

Del Potro RG 09 vs Djokovic RG 11 who played Federer better in the loss?

I'd say Delpo actually, he took the racquet out of Fed hands while 2011 match was played on Fed's terms more or less.

That said, I'd still pick 2011 Novak over 2009 Delpo at the FO in a heartbeat. Novak is a really bad match-up for Delpo.

 

[mike danny]

I'd say Delpo actually, he took the racquet out of Fed hands while 2011 match was played on Fed's terms more or less.

That said, I'd still pick 2011 Novak over 2009 Delpo at the FO in a heartbeat. Novak is a really bad match-up for Delpo.

I'm gonna go on a limb and say that Stan is tougher for Novak because he can hurt Novak from the BH side more than Delpo can.

But Delpo's BH was better pre 2010 too, so who knows how he would have done against Djokovic without all those surgeries.

 

[zagor]

I'm gonna go on a limb and say that Stan is tougher for Novak because he can hurt Novak from the BH side more than Delpo can.

But Delpo's BH was better pre 2010 too, so who knows how he would have done against Djokovic without all those surgeries.

Stan is tough for Novak because of how heavy he hits off both wings and pushes him behind the baseline. Delpo in comparison hits a flat ball like say Cilic and Berdych, Novak is probably the toughest match-up possible for these guys, he's just too good at using their pace against them.

 

[abmk]

Stan is tough for Novak because of how heavy he hits off both wings and pushes him behind the baseline. Delpo in comparison hits a flat ball like say Cilic and Berdych, Novak is probably the toughest match-up possible for these guys, he's just too good at using their pace against them.

Delpo's FH is actually heavy (quite more so than Cilic&berdych).

 

[ForehandRF]

Fed struggled with Delpo more than he should have, in general

 

[RS]

I'd say Delpo actually, he took the racquet out of Fed hands while 2011 match was played on Fed's terms more or less.

That said, I'd still pick 2011 Novak over 2009 Delpo at the FO in a heartbeat. Novak is a really bad match-up for Delpo.

The general opinion is that Novak was at his best interesting to see a Federer fan say hint he was not.......

 

[abmk]

I'd say Delpo actually, he took the racquet out of Fed hands while 2011 match was played on Fed's terms more or less.

That said, I'd still pick 2011 Novak over 2009 Delpo at the FO in a heartbeat. Novak is a really bad match-up for Delpo.

I think Djoko is a tough matchup for delpo, but not to the extent you do.
2 Olympics wins, win at IW and taking djoko to 5 sets at Wim 13 where Djoko was playing well, multiple other close 3-setters (YEC 12 semi - djoko had lost 1st set and was in trouble at start of 2nd set, Shanghai 13 final, Rome 19 where delpo had MP) etc. point towards what I mean

Djokovic and delpo did actually play in RG 2011. delpo was threatning in set2 and took it. But darkness prevailed and djokovic regrouped the next day to take sets 3 and 4.

I think Djoko edging out delpo of RG 09 in 5 sets is most likely option, but I wouldn't bet on it.

 

[RS]

True.

But nice baiting

It’s true though

 

[zagor]

I think Djoko is a tough matchup for delpo, but not to the extent you do.
2 Olympics wins, win at IW and taking djoko to 5 sets at Wim 13 where Djoko was playing well, multiple other close 3-setters (YEC 12 semi - djoko had lost 1st set and was in trouble at start of 2nd set, Shanghai 13 final, Rome 19 where delpo had MP) etc. point towards what I mean

Djokovic and delpo did actually play in RG 2011. delpo was threatning in set2 and took it. But darkness prevailed and djokovic regrouped the next day to take sets 3 and 4.

I think Djoko edging out delpo of RG 09 in 5 sets is most likely option, but I wouldn't bet on it.

I don't put too much stock in Olympics wins, Novak was struggling in 2016 and 2012 was a match for bronze. Fair enough, they did have some tough ones but that's basically because Delpo's a great player when he's on, out of big 4 I'd still say Novak is the toughest match-up for him.

 

[zagor]

The general opinion is that Novak was at his best interesting to see a Federer fan say hint he was not.......

In general I think Novak has never or rarely been at his best at the FO, it's a tourney where he nearly always under-performed in terms of level of play (similar to USO). His best tennis on clay came in CC masters.

 

[abmk]

I don't put too much stock in Olympics wins, Novak was struggling in 2016 and 2012 was a match for bronze. Fair enough, they did have some tough ones but that's basically because Delpo's a great player when he's on, out of big 4 I'd still say Novak is the toughest match-up for him.

Am pretty sure Djokovic wanted to win that bronze match in 12 Olympics. And delpo had come from that marathon match vs fed.
In 2016, Djokovic had just won Canada beating Monfils and Nishi comfortably in the SF/F (granted he needed some choking from Birdman in the match prior).

 

[metsman]

I'm gonna go on a limb and say that Stan is tougher for Novak because he can hurt Novak from the BH side more than Delpo can.

But Delpo's BH was better pre 2010 too, so who knows how he would have done against Djokovic without all those surgeries.

Delpo was a totally different threat when he doesn't have a wing you can just ruthlessly exploit. Delpo with a weak BH is barbeque chicken for Djokovic who will just go there with depth all day long. He still had some decent matches against him relying heavily on the serve and FH and Djokovic not being totally locked in.

 

[metsman]

Delpo's FH is actually heavy (quite more so than Cilic&berdych).

Delpo also has significantly better footwork than those guys too so it's a totally different tier of opponent vs elite players. Those guys are cooked if you can get them on the run or make them take the ball earlier than they are comfortable with, and thus can't hurt you much unless you give them a steady diet of mid court or poorly struck cupcakes. They can do damage against off form big guys as a result but not in form ones. Delpo also returned much better than Stan does which people overlook. Stan had better stamina/physicality and a more reliable serve than 09 Delpo (but 09 Delpo served very well at RG) but chances are good Delpo would have improved both those things if he stayed healthy.

 

[abmk]

Delpo also has significantly better footwork than those guys too so it's a totally different tier of opponent vs elite players. Those guys are cooked if you can get them on the run or make them take the ball earlier than they are comfortable with, and thus can't hurt you much unless you give them a steady diet of mid court or poorly struck cupcakes. They can do damage against off form big guys as a result but not in form ones. Delpo also returned much better than Stan does which people overlook. Stan had better stamina/physicality and a more reliable serve than 09 Delpo (but 09 Delpo served very well at RG) but chances are good Delpo would have improved both those things if he stayed healthy.

delpo does have better footwork than both. I think its a little bit harsh on Berdych/Cilic. They can hurt even without being given easy stuff, but problem for them is being able to maintain it for a good length of time within the match. Biggest exhibit is Cilic vs Nadal in 2018 Canada. Cilic was unplayable for a set and then ....