Del Potro really has given us loads of outstanding matches: Federer vs Del Potro 2009 RG extended highlights

BackhandDTL

Hall of Fame
Rusty EXPOSING Sampras for being a one-dimensional GLORIFIED SERVEBOT. Finally faces someone who can RETURN unlike all the WEAK ERA servebot MUGS from the 90's, and he CRUMBLES like the FRAUD he is. ROFLMAO!!!
Hewitt was crying for his nappies and diapers once Wodgi completed puberty.

A couple of fluke wins against a post prime PETE with tough draws and now Hewitt is someone worth discussing?

Might as well be discussing Millman then ROFLMAO
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
God what a shocker of a 2nd set tiebreak.
Also: 2nd set TB of Soderling vs Nadal in 2009 4R.

Also: what a shocker of a game by Stan to get broken in the 1st set vs djoko
what a shocker of a game by Stan to get broken in the 4th set vs djoko
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Hewitt read the Sampras serve maybe better than anyone, though obviously this wasn't peak Sampras.
Sampras said Hewitt has a better return of serve than Agassi. Obviously both Pete and Andre were past their prime at that point.


Q. Is he a better returner than Andre at this point?


PETE SAMPRAS: Yeah.


Q. Why?


PETE SAMPRAS: Because he's quicker. Maybe doesn't have quite the power, but he doesn't miss. You know, he's very tough to ace. He's got the hands and the feet, it's phenomenal. Really pretty impressive stuff.

 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Sampras said Hewitt has a better return of serve than Agassi. Obviously both Pete and Andre were past their prime at that point.


Q. Is he a better returner than Andre at this point?


PETE SAMPRAS: Yeah.


Q. Why?


PETE SAMPRAS: Because he's quicker. Maybe doesn't have quite the power, but he doesn't miss. You know, he's very tough to ace. He's got the hands and the feet, it's phenomenal. Really pretty impressive stuff.

Yeah, Hewitt made the Sampras second serve look pedestrian at times very good at reaching balls and getting them low to the feet.
 

Hitman

Legend
Yeah, Hewitt made the Sampras second serve look pedestrian at times very good at reaching balls and getting them low to the feet.
Hewitt loved that target, he gave Henman all kinds of trouble also. Becker wasn't too fond of playing him either, and that was back in the late 90s.
 

clout

Hall of Fame
De Potro was an awesome part of the big 3/4 generation despite not always being there due to injuries. He's played in so many epic matches.

At Majors:
- 2009 RG vs Federer
- 2009 USO vs Fedal
- 2011 WI vs Nadal
- 2012 RG vs Federer
- 2013 WI vs Djoker
- 2016 WI upsetting Stan
- 2017 USO vs Thiem/Fed/Nadal
- 2018 WI vs Nadal

At Masters:
- 2009 Miami vs Nadal/Murray
- 2009 Montreal vs Nadal/Roddick/Murray
- 2012 Madrid vs Berdych
- 2013 Indian Wells vs Djokovic/Nadal
- 2013 Cincy vs Isner
- 2013 Shanghai vs Djokovic
- 2017 Shanghai vs Federer
- 2017 Bercy vs Isner
- 2018 Indian Wells vs Federer
- 2019 Rome vs Djokovic

At Olympics:
- 2012 London vs Federer/Djokovic
- 2016 Rio vs Djokovic/Nadal/Murray

At Davis Cups:
- 2008 finals vs Lopez
- 2011 finals vs Nadal
- 2016 semis vs Murray
- 2016 finals vs Cilic

At WTF:
- 2009 vs Fed/Murray/Verdasco/Soderling (ran outta gas in the F vs Davy)
- 2012 vs Fed/Ferrer/Djoker
- 2013 vs Fed/Djoker/Gasquet
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
De Potro was an awesome part of the big 3/4 generation despite not always being there due to injuries. He's played in so many epic matches.

At Majors:
- 2009 RG vs Federer
- 2009 USO vs Fedal
- 2011 WI vs Nadal
- 2012 RG vs Federer
- 2013 WI vs Djoker
- 2016 WI upsetting Stan
- 2017 USO vs Thiem/Fed/Nadal
- 2018 WI vs Nadal

At Masters:
- 2009 Miami vs Nadal/Murray
- 2009 Montreal vs Nadal/Roddick/Murray
- 2012 Madrid vs Berdych
- 2013 Indian Wells vs Djokovic/Nadal
- 2013 Cincy vs Isner
- 2013 Shanghai vs Djokovic
- 2017 Shanghai vs Federer
- 2017 Bercy vs Isner
- 2018 Indian Wells vs Federer
- 2019 Rome vs Djokovic

At Olympics:
- 2012 London vs Federer/Djokovic
- 2016 Rio vs Djokovic/Nadal/Murray

At Davis Cups:
- 2008 finals vs Lopez
- 2011 finals vs Nadal
- 2016 semis vs Murray
- 2016 finals vs Cilic

At WTF:
- 2009 vs Fed/Murray/Verdasco/Soderling (ran outta gas in the F vs Davy)
- 2012 vs Fed/Ferrer/Djoker
- 2013 vs Fed/Djoker/Gasquet
Problem is, he usually loses most of those epic matches against the Big 3.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Man, Fed's defense on the BH side used to be so slick. Delpo was pummeling the ball off both sides, easy to forget he actually had a great BH prior to start of the wrist issues in 2010.

Definitely one of Fed's most impressive wins at the FO for me.
 

ForehandCross

Hall of Fame
Man, Fed's defense on the BH side used to be so slick. Delpo was pummeling the ball off both sides, easy to forget he actually had a great BH prior to start of the wrist issues in 2010.

Definitely one of Fed's most impressive wins at the FO for me.
That's what I liked about it, that BH defensive slice was a sponge, and keeps landing balls in deep and in weird positions.
Any big hitter in a zone can end making errors on them .
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
That's what I liked about it, that BH defensive slice was a sponge, and keeps landing balls in deep and in weird positions.
Any big hitter in a zone can end making errors on them .
Fed's defensive BH slice was always of his best shots, nothing new. It's actually one of things Stan improved when he morphed into a slam contender and of the things a guy like Dimitrov doesn't do well which hurts his overall defense despite being fast and great athlete.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
I'd say Delpo actually, he took the racquet out of Fed hands while 2011 match was played on Fed's terms more or less.

That said, I'd still pick 2011 Novak over 2009 Delpo at the FO in a heartbeat. Novak is a really bad match-up for Delpo.
I'm gonna go on a limb and say that Stan is tougher for Novak because he can hurt Novak from the BH side more than Delpo can.

But Delpo's BH was better pre 2010 too, so who knows how he would have done against Djokovic without all those surgeries.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
I'm gonna go on a limb and say that Stan is tougher for Novak because he can hurt Novak from the BH side more than Delpo can.

But Delpo's BH was better pre 2010 too, so who knows how he would have done against Djokovic without all those surgeries.
Stan is tough for Novak because of how heavy he hits off both wings and pushes him behind the baseline. Delpo in comparison hits a flat ball like say Cilic and Berdych, Novak is probably the toughest match-up possible for these guys, he's just too good at using their pace against them.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
Stan is tough for Novak because of how heavy he hits off both wings and pushes him behind the baseline. Delpo in comparison hits a flat ball like say Cilic and Berdych, Novak is probably the toughest match-up possible for these guys, he's just too good at using their pace against them.
Delpo's FH is actually heavy (quite more so than Cilic&berdych).
 

RS

Legend
I'd say Delpo actually, he took the racquet out of Fed hands while 2011 match was played on Fed's terms more or less.

That said, I'd still pick 2011 Novak over 2009 Delpo at the FO in a heartbeat. Novak is a really bad match-up for Delpo.
The general opinion is that Novak was at his best interesting to see a Federer fan say hint he was not.......
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
I'd say Delpo actually, he took the racquet out of Fed hands while 2011 match was played on Fed's terms more or less.

That said, I'd still pick 2011 Novak over 2009 Delpo at the FO in a heartbeat. Novak is a really bad match-up for Delpo.
I think Djoko is a tough matchup for delpo, but not to the extent you do.
2 Olympics wins, win at IW and taking djoko to 5 sets at Wim 13 where Djoko was playing well, multiple other close 3-setters (YEC 12 semi - djoko had lost 1st set and was in trouble at start of 2nd set, Shanghai 13 final, Rome 19 where delpo had MP) etc. point towards what I mean

Djokovic and delpo did actually play in RG 2011. delpo was threatning in set2 and took it. But darkness prevailed and djokovic regrouped the next day to take sets 3 and 4.

I think Djoko edging out delpo of RG 09 in 5 sets is most likely option, but I wouldn't bet on it.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
I think Djoko is a tough matchup for delpo, but not to the extent you do.
2 Olympics wins, win at IW and taking djoko to 5 sets at Wim 13 where Djoko was playing well, multiple other close 3-setters (YEC 12 semi - djoko had lost 1st set and was in trouble at start of 2nd set, Shanghai 13 final, Rome 19 where delpo had MP) etc. point towards what I mean

Djokovic and delpo did actually play in RG 2011. delpo was threatning in set2 and took it. But darkness prevailed and djokovic regrouped the next day to take sets 3 and 4.

I think Djoko edging out delpo of RG 09 in 5 sets is most likely option, but I wouldn't bet on it.
I don't put too much stock in Olympics wins, Novak was struggling in 2016 and 2012 was a match for bronze. Fair enough, they did have some tough ones but that's basically because Delpo's a great player when he's on, out of big 4 I'd still say Novak is the toughest match-up for him.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
The general opinion is that Novak was at his best interesting to see a Federer fan say hint he was not.......
In general I think Novak has never or rarely been at his best at the FO, it's a tourney where he nearly always under-performed in terms of level of play (similar to USO). His best tennis on clay came in CC masters.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
I don't put too much stock in Olympics wins, Novak was struggling in 2016 and 2012 was a match for bronze. Fair enough, they did have some tough ones but that's basically because Delpo's a great player when he's on, out of big 4 I'd still say Novak is the toughest match-up for him.
Am pretty sure Djokovic wanted to win that bronze match in 12 Olympics. And delpo had come from that marathon match vs fed.
In 2016, Djokovic had just won Canada beating Monfils and Nishi comfortably in the SF/F (granted he needed some choking from Birdman in the match prior).
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
I'm gonna go on a limb and say that Stan is tougher for Novak because he can hurt Novak from the BH side more than Delpo can.

But Delpo's BH was better pre 2010 too, so who knows how he would have done against Djokovic without all those surgeries.
Delpo was a totally different threat when he doesn't have a wing you can just ruthlessly exploit. Delpo with a weak BH is barbeque chicken for Djokovic who will just go there with depth all day long. He still had some decent matches against him relying heavily on the serve and FH and Djokovic not being totally locked in.
 

metsman

G.O.A.T.
Delpo's FH is actually heavy (quite more so than Cilic&berdych).
Delpo also has significantly better footwork than those guys too so it's a totally different tier of opponent vs elite players. Those guys are cooked if you can get them on the run or make them take the ball earlier than they are comfortable with, and thus can't hurt you much unless you give them a steady diet of mid court or poorly struck cupcakes. They can do damage against off form big guys as a result but not in form ones. Delpo also returned much better than Stan does which people overlook. Stan had better stamina/physicality and a more reliable serve than 09 Delpo (but 09 Delpo served very well at RG) but chances are good Delpo would have improved both those things if he stayed healthy.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
Delpo also has significantly better footwork than those guys too so it's a totally different tier of opponent vs elite players. Those guys are cooked if you can get them on the run or make them take the ball earlier than they are comfortable with, and thus can't hurt you much unless you give them a steady diet of mid court or poorly struck cupcakes. They can do damage against off form big guys as a result but not in form ones. Delpo also returned much better than Stan does which people overlook. Stan had better stamina/physicality and a more reliable serve than 09 Delpo (but 09 Delpo served very well at RG) but chances are good Delpo would have improved both those things if he stayed healthy.
delpo does have better footwork than both. I think its a little bit harsh on Berdych/Cilic. They can hurt even without being given easy stuff, but problem for them is being able to maintain it for a good length of time within the match. Biggest exhibit is Cilic vs Nadal in 2018 Canada. Cilic was unplayable for a set and then ....
 
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