I can't believe Soderling actually made fun of Nadal right in front of him and fans
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Kaptain Karl
Hall Of Fame
a) When was this diagnosis made?
b) You try to base an argument on ... something you just made up???
c) If you think people ridicule Rafa's idiosyncracies "just because he is beating" them, you are mistaken. His delays constitute cheating, or don't you get that?
Wow. That's what I call "revisionist history."
Thank you! The way I saw it, until Agassi actually made a stink about it, the ATP was letting Nadal get away with his delays. But then Agassi already was a Big Shot ... Nadal was (then) "just" a rising star.
I often wonder just how bad Nadal's behavior would have gotten if Agassi hadn't forced the officials to enforce the rules....
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TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
The ATP wasn't letting Nadal get away with anything. Agassi was just being sour grapes because he likes to play fast. He's been known for more than a bit of gamesmanship in his day! Nadal doesn't cheat, or go around blaspheming anybody! It was STILL Federer who took it to another level because of their h2h. Why then is it a problem with Canas too. Coincidence?
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
Incorrect! What actually happened was since Soderling stopped the service motion, when he came back Nadal began to bounce the ball. The chair reminded Nadal that is was new balls, so Nadal had to stop, hold up the ball and restart! Soderling is an idiot!
HAHAHAHAHAHA! BRILLIANT!!!
Shabazza
Legend
Apparently you don't do your username justice, but then again you never intended to, obviously.
norcal
Legend
Wow, Nads looked like he wanted to kick the crap out of him right then and there. He better be able to take a ribbing if he is going to keep picking his arse - he really needs to stop, it is embarrassing.
veritech
Hall of Fame
funny how this thread turns into a fed bashing thread.
i don't understand that because some people don't oppose what soderling did, they are branded fed fans and their motivation to speak is because nadal leads federer in the head to head? so narrowminded.
that's about as ignorant as you can get. sorry buddy, but the tennis world doesn't just rotate around your boy.
i don't understand that because some people don't oppose what soderling did, they are branded fed fans and their motivation to speak is because nadal leads federer in the head to head? so narrowminded.
that's about as ignorant as you can get. sorry buddy, but the tennis world doesn't just rotate around your boy.
Tennis_Nickmo
Rookie
Does anyone ahve a youtube video of that, I missed it?
Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
Looks to me like Nads tried to dish it out....and couldn't take the return jab. I hope Soderling beats the crap out of him in the 5th...
BTW, there is a girl here locally who is from Sweden. We were playing mixed against each other about a year or maybe two ago. She was brought up in the juniors there and is a little older than Solderling. She said she had to call lines at one of his matches and that he is an arse...
BTW, there is a girl here locally who is from Sweden. We were playing mixed against each other about a year or maybe two ago. She was brought up in the juniors there and is a little older than Solderling. She said she had to call lines at one of his matches and that he is an arse...
veritech
Hall of Fame
Gamesmanship begats gamesmanship.
M
MacKenzie
Guest
I also saw McEnroe imitate Nadal's tic in a single's senior match with Sampras recently. 
I would think by now his coach would have mentioned it. I still luv watching him play.
I would think by now his coach would have mentioned it. I still luv watching him play.
Photoshop
Professional
That's exactly what happened. Did you even watch the match, saram?
Nadal_Freak
Banned
The one that is ridiculous is you with nitpicking every little thing Nadal does. Excitement and nervous ticks are normal in a tennis match.
Thanks for the link. The clip shows that Soderling did it in response to a sarcastic reminder from Nadal that he was serving with new balls, which was a response to Soderling walking back to his bag to get a fresh racquet when Nadal was about to serve, which was a response to another instance of Nadal's interminably slow getting-ready-to-serve shenanigans.
When are the officials going to call Nadal on his repeated violations of the time rules??
Good on you, Robin!
When are the officials going to call Nadal on his repeated violations of the time rules??
Good on you, Robin!
kungfusmkim
Professional
Nadal was a poor sport about gives soderling the dirty look.
But imagine the chair umpire's predicament.
Sup2Dresq
Hall of Fame
Ah, who can forget the Agassi - Krucera US Open match where Agassi started moon balling and mimicing(sp) Kruceras errant service toss. It happens to the greatest of tennis players. They become human! The thought of it. LOL.
Just to throw my two cents. It was entertaining, but in the end, Nadal did his response in a more humor zing way, Soderling did his in an embarassing frustrating demeanor. The tension was high at the time. All of this will pass.
^^^ Good point. I'd just give him a friendly wave. Maybe that would get the message across to Nadal?... NOT!
I am also concerned about the ball persons who have to hold the towel every point ....
Well, "meaningful" is debatable from that bunch, but I appreciate a different interpretation of the events. Thanks for posting the link to the video.
U know what though everyone makes such a big deal about it after said loser walks off the court in disgust. Maybe if his opponents would tell him like an adult before hand or even while they are on court that it is bothering them then this would not be an issue and it would not have turned into a adult male acting like a two year old brat
It's like with me, it's not what you say it's how you say it. You could be completely right in telling me off but if you do it in a disrespectful manner, you get nothing coming from me.
It's about time people start acting like freaking adults and stop appalled them when they don't.
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poplar
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man, i know i will never be able to keep you from thinking whatever you want, but i told you hundreds of time i would still viscerally hate the topspin monkey even if roger didn't exist...
(fortunately he does !!!)
nevertheless i admit you're right on one point : i didn't like when he won against roger... hey, how the hell could i enjoy that ?
sure this doesn't help me to like nadal, but that didn't trigger my hate : nadal himself is enough.
yes i have to admit that... ]
i've never seen anyone admitting hatred with so much proud and pleasance ...:grin:
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poplar
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and you still think you can reason with nadal fans...
saram
Legend
All he had to do if it was bother him so much was say that it was bothering him, rafa I mean and if soderling was bothered by rafa and his time in between points all he had to do was say so in a respectful manner.
they both of them have no one to blame for their frustrations with the other but themselves.
my philosophy is if I don't have the balls to say it to you before hand in a calm manner, then I don't have the balls to lash out at you. Because it doesn't take much courage to lash out at some one in anger it's a natural reaction that when the adrenaline wears off you feel ashamed you did.
If they had acting like adults there would be no incident to talk about
they both of them have no one to blame for their frustrations with the other but themselves.
my philosophy is if I don't have the balls to say it to you before hand in a calm manner, then I don't have the balls to lash out at you. Because it doesn't take much courage to lash out at some one in anger it's a natural reaction that when the adrenaline wears off you feel ashamed you did.
If they had acting like adults there would be no incident to talk about
saram
Legend
I saw parts of the match and the instance that revolve around it. As mentioned earlier--I say that you can pick on ANY part of a person's game except things that are not of control. I guess some people do not understand OCD, nervous tics, manerisms, behavior or anything like that. He has done this since childhood--not something he walks onto the court and does for gamesmanship or conquering his opponent.
I am sure and would put money on the fact that if he could control and stop this--he sure would. I bet it upsets him to see himself on tape and continue to do it regardless of him not wanting to.
why would he stop, I burp out load in public, some people have a huge problem with it. You know what I say.. to darn bad.
Man! There's a bunch of cry-baby panzies on these boards. Soderling mocking Nadal right in front of him is gamesmanship. It's the same thing as Nadal going sleeveless and giving those Sly Stalone-ugly stares at his competitors. Anybody can wave a finger in Mutumbo's face if they feel like it, and they can walk the walk. It seems as though it's getting under Nadal's skin, too...Soderling is walking the walk in the 5th set so far. Good for Soderling, I think it's funny and it makes me like him without even knowing anything else about him...he's got balls. "Boo-hoo, don't make fun of my Rafa because...I love him!" The game needs more irreverant characters like McEnroe, Connors, and Nastase from back in the hey-day. It's so boring nowadays. Except for the pure beauty of Fed's play, there is nothing too interesting about the ATP. Bring on the personalities...nice work, Soderling.
saram
Legend
If you have kids...I feel for them...I really do....
He cannot say it to Nadal. He can only say it to the chair umpire.
slice bh compliment
G.O.A.T.
Yes. Dr. Phil is correct.
The way to do it is in a civil way, openly communicating with the chair umpire...in a calm voice within earshot of Nadal, the microphone and Nadal's box. ANd Nadal's shorts.
Well maybe not on court but during change over and what not, or even in the locker room. These guys live pretty much on top of each other on tour, if you want to you can find a way to be civil. Rude is never an excusable quality
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
Its nice for someone to actually imitate his crap, even if its a bad imitation.I heard somewhere that Michael Stich called him out on his delay tactics.He said it was flat out cheating.
well in my experience on tennis board, you can't really deny the players that get all the time and I mean allll the time are
Williams/ Shriekapova/ Nadal
other palyers are not respected but these guys just get beat up or made fun of all the time for absolutely ridiculous things
It's sad that people take the energy to really hate some one because they
Pick their shorts
scream when they hit the ball
Is over weight and still wins slams
Williams/ Shriekapova/ Nadal
other palyers are not respected but these guys just get beat up or made fun of all the time for absolutely ridiculous things
It's sad that people take the energy to really hate some one because they
Pick their shorts
scream when they hit the ball
Is over weight and still wins slams
I don't understand so calling him out, and telling him that it is disrespectful are the same thing
You all act as though he is pouching his opponents in the face after ever point
and tennis fans wonder why the world views tennis as a sport for pansies
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