It will be an all Williams final at Roland Garros this year

davey25

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Now that it is increasingly evident the overrated and overhyped Justine Henin is no longer any threat even on her beloved clay, and seeing how well both Williams sisters are playing I am more and more convinced we will be seeing an all Williams final at this years French. The Williams haters (and they are plentiful on this forum) will really love that. An All Williams final on their worst surface of clay. I cant wait.
 
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So Henin drops a set to Sharapova and she's no longer a threat...

Serena Williams drops a set to an 18 year old, and she's penciled into the final.

I don't understand your logic here.
 
davey25

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Dropping a set to a past her prime Sharapova on clay is pathetic for Henin. As for Serena she is a different animal. She only brings her A game when she feels she needs it. Of course Serena is in the final who do you is going to stop her. Stosur? Sharapova on clay? Henin? Yeah right. Only Jankovic is maybe a threat to her in this half.
 
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davey25 said:
Dropping a set to a past her prime Sharapova on clay is pathetic for Henin. As for Serena she is a different animal. She only brings her A game when she feels she needs it. Of course Serena is in the final who do you is going to stop her. Stosur? Sharapova on clay? Henin? Yeah right. Only Jankovic is maybe a threat to her in this half.
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I won't argue with you, as it's rather pointless, but I think you're underestimating Henin's abilities on Clay. She hasn't lost at the FO since 2004...That's a pretty impressive streak if you ask me.

I guess we'll see how it all ends up. I wouldn't be shocked to see both Ws in the final, and I wouldn't be shocked to see neither of them.
 
Bertie B

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Well, Venus is a Gemini w/ Moon in Leo. One could only wish all the attention and the boost in ranking will inspire her inner Lioness to roar its way into the final. One could only wish.
 
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davey25

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I dont underestimate Henin's "former" abilities on clay. The key word being former. Her current abilities on clay which see her lose to some player outside the top 100 in Fed Cup, get bageled by Rezai, and go 3 sets with Sharapova, are nothing for Serena to worry about. Serena is probably salivating at the prospect of pummeling Henin into the ground should Henin get lucky (or unlucky) enough to make it that far.
 
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davey25 said:
I dont underestimate Henin's "former" abilities on clay. The key word being former. Her current abilities on clay which see her lose to some player outside the top 100 in Fed Cup, get bageled by Rezai, and go 3 sets with Sharapova, are nothing for Serena to worry about. Serena is probably salivating at the prospect of pummeling Henin into the ground should Henin get lucky (or unlucky) enough to make it that far.
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serena is more likely salivating at the prospect of eating a few crepes or a dozen croissants.
 
davey25

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paulorenzo said:
serena is more likely salivating at the prospect of eating a few crepes or a dozen croissants.
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Yes to celebrate her 2nd French Open title and being halfway to a historic Grand Slam to go with her Serena Slam. Though I would much rather Venus win it as I think this is her last chance at Roland Garros, unfortunately I think Serena will come out on top though I would be really happy for her too.
 
Bertie B

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Henin is crafty and shouldn't be underestimated. She WILL resort to cheating if/when backed in a corner.

However her age is starting to show. Let's not forget that although #1 at the time, she suffered more than a few "main stage" beatings before the retirement.
 
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Bertie B said:
Henin is crafty and shouldn't be underestimated. She WILL resort to cheating if/when backed in a corner.
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Serena did the same thing against jankovic (hand during the serve) and stole an ace in the third set tiebreaker. She is a much bigger cheater than henin was 7 years ago.
 
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it wouldn't surprise me. somebody said Serena is no good on Clay. but she is the best on any surface at slams.
 
Tanya

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davey25 said:
Now that it is increasingly evident the overrated and overhyped Justine Henin is no longer any threat even on her beloved clay, and seeing how well both Williams sisters are playing I am more and more convinced we will be seeing an all Williams final at this years French. The Williams haters (and they are plentiful on this forum) will really love that. An All Williams final on their worst surface of clay. I cant wait.
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You're becoming so ridiculous with your comments regarding Henin and the WS that even I can't support your arguments anymore.

Say whatever you want about clay being Sharapova's worst surface and Justine's best, but you can't deny how well Maria played in the second set. It has nothing to do with Justine's career being over (as much as I wish it did) so calm down a bit and let's see how this match actually ends before you make such predictions. Let's not forget how prone the WS are to being upset by nobodies.
 
davey25

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Tanya said:
You're becoming so ridiculous with your comments regarding Henin and the WS that even I can't support your arguments anymore.

Say whatever you want about clay being Sharapova's worst surface and Justine's best, but you can't deny how well Maria played in the second set. It has nothing to do with Justine's career being over (as much as I wish it did) so calm down a bit and let's see how this match actually ends before you make such predictions. Let's not forget how prone the WS are to being upset by nobodies.
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I saw the match and Maria did nothing that surprised me at all. Maria did play very well the last 3 games of the 2nd set true, but until then she as just middling and Henin was keeping her in the match with her new mediocrity even on clay. Henin played down to the level of a past her prime Sharapova on clay. Henin of any point in 2002-2007 would have won the match in under 45 minutes, not much shorter a time than she was regularly beating even a prime Sharapova on clay.
 
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Tanya

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All I know is I would be surprised if Maria pulled off the victory tomorrow, and that you shouldn't get ahead of yourself.
 
davey25

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Well I agree there is a good chance Henin still pulls it out but that doesnt mean anything really. If Henin is struggling this much vs a past her prime Maria on clay, remember Mrs "I am a cow on ice on clay" (something she said during her prime), she has no chance if she plays Serena.
 
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davey25 said:
Dropping a set to a past her prime Sharapova on clay is pathetic for Henin. As for Serena she is a different animal. She only brings her A game when she feels she needs it. Of course Serena is in the final who do you is going to stop her. Stosur? Sharapova on clay? Henin? Yeah right. Only Jankovic is maybe a threat to her in this half.
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If losing 1 set to Sharapova is pathetic, then losing to Paylyuchenkova:)shock:) is a DISGRACE. Serena should withdraw from the tourney immediately!
 
davey25

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Paylyuchenkova is even probably better than a past her prime Sharapova on CLAY. And as I said Serena chooses to bring her A-game whenever she feels like it. Henin is not like that.
 
davey25

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West Coast Ace said:
People with an IQ north of Forrest Gump realized how much the conditions had deteriorated and made playing quality tennis next to impossible. Sorry you're not in that demographic.
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So when was Henin's quality tennis this year? While struggling through a joke draw to the AO final but still failing to beat a badly injured and fatigued Serena Williams in that final. When losing to a badly off form Clijsters in Miami. While losing to a player outside the top 100 in Fed Cup. While getting fed a bagel by the snarky French women Rezai.
 
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davey25 said:
So when was Henin's quality tennis this year? While struggling through a joke draw to the AO final but still failing to beat a badly injured and fatigued Serena Williams in that final. When losing to a badly off form Clijsters in Miami. While losing to a player outside the top 100 in Fed Cup. While getting fed a bagel by the snarky French women Rezai.
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There is no such thing as a 'joke draw' when you are unseeded and have to face #5 seed Dementieva in the 2nd round. Meanwhile, Serena was playing Kvitova in the 2nd round. And should I start recounting Serena's bad losses this year? Oh wait, you're right, she was either injured or fatigued or had a headache (like today)...:rolleyes:
 
davey25

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Sorry I forgot about the 2nd round with Dementieva, but beyond that she ended up with a joke draw to the final where she failed to finish off a badly injured, wrapped, and tired Serena Williams.
 
P_Agony

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davey25 said:
Now that it is increasingly evident the overrated and overhyped Justine Henin is no longer any threat even on her beloved clay, and seeing how well both Williams sisters are playing I am more and more convinced we will be seeing an all Williams final at this years French. The Williams haters (and they are plentiful on this forum) will really love that. An All Williams final on their worst surface of clay. I cant wait.
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That's not going to happen man. Just no.
 
P_Agony

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davey25 said:
Sorry I forgot about the 2nd round with Dementieva, but beyond that she ended up with a joke draw to the final where she failed to finish off a badly injured, wrapped, and tired Serena Williams.
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LOL, you are talking about the best match I've watched this year. And in the 2nd round, that's the toughest draw you can possibly get!
 
halalula1234

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I WILL BE Praying its an all Williams final!!! i love the sisters !! especially if venus wins this title i'll roll around on the floor having torretts. in a happy way. Lets hope she beats Petrova!! if petrova is on then venus better be playing better than she did so far in the tournament! venus better be on too. if she played like her second round match or double faulted like her third then it wont be good.

And i hope maria wipe justine out!
 
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Rhino said:
I really hope not.
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I don't think both sisters will make the final. It's only the 3rd round and the OP is hyping them, which he's setting himself up for looking like a clown!

Of course, I don't any all williams final in any tourney. It doesn't matter whoever win since the trophy, prize/money will end up with family anyway. It's a potential for a setup and Richard William will decide who will win. Watching double final is 10 times more interesting!
 
THUNDERVOLLEY

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davey25 said:
Now that it is increasingly evident the overrated and overhyped Justine Henin is no longer any threat even on her beloved clay, and seeing how well both Williams sisters are playing I am more and more convinced we will be seeing an all Williams final at this years French. The Williams haters (and they are plentiful on this forum) will really love that. An All Williams final on their worst surface of clay. I cant wait.
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All Williams is a stretch--unless in Venus' case, she's seriously seeing the twilight of her career, and will not UE or "wandering mind" herself into another early exit. In any case, even if Henin falls to Sharapova, players such as Jankovic (particularly eager to remove herself from Safina's void of slamless ineptitude) will pose a serious threat at this FO.
 
davey25

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THUNDERVOLLEY said:
All Williams is a stretch--unless in Venus' case, she's seriously seeing the twilight of her career, and will not UE or "wandering mind" herself into another early exit. In any case, even if Henin falls to Sharapova, players such as Jankovic (particularly eager to remove herself from Safina's void of slamless ineptitude) will pose a serious threat at this FO.
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I wouldnt mind at all seeing Jankovic win it. I have always felt she was a better player than Safina and it would be nice to see her eliminate herself from the dreaded category Mrs. "I am a real #1" Safina is in.

Yeah you are right realistically it probably wont happen but I see a glimmer of hope it could, which I wouldnt have believed before the French. I would like to see it happen even more for Venus than Serena just since I really believe this is her last shot at this particular slam.
 
kishnabe

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I see a Jankovic-Venus final...I'll be very happy if either of them win. I'll be pissed off if Serena or Petrova win!
 
TheTruth

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I hope it's Serena/Jankovic and good on the winner. I like both of them. But it would be nice to see Jelena finally win a slam.
 
davey25

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kishnabe said:
I see a Jankovic-Venus final...I'll be very happy if either of them win. I'll be pissed off if Serena or Petrova win!
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Petrova? Well this is one of the most wide open French Opens ever so I guess it is possible but highly unlikely IMO. Petrova has the game to possibly eke out a slam or two at some point. However she doesnt have the mentality to do so. I cant imagine her getting through 7 matches without choking if she is even in position.
 
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billnepill said:
hm, for both GSF and Davey Sampras, Graf = GOATs, but I don't recall GSF loving Williamses so much. Am I wrong?
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Yes, the number of accounts is 15+ right now apparently. Also if P-Agony's signature is true then a few more can be added and possibly go up to 25+ user names from this same person.
 
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Its possible but I highly doubt it. Serena will have to get through Stosur, Henin or Sharapova in the Quarters's....and seeing as how she has yet to shake off the rust of her time off convincingly they are all threats especially if Pavluchenkova can hit her with a breadstick. Peer in the next rd could knock her off to and it wouldn't really surprise me. Then Possibly/Likely Jankovic in the semi's and since she just beat Serena in Rome she would at least go in feeling confident. Venus has an easier draw, Petrova next, then Likely Dementieva, Either Woz Pennetta, Schiavone or Li in the Semi's. However, Petrova if she doesn't go headcase she is a threat to her and a 2 time Semi Finalist, Dementieva a former finalist herself could knock Venus off on clay..Pennetta is a pain for Venus, Li took her out at the AO, and Schiavone is a solid clay courter who fights for everything. Its possible, but I think it is overconfident to bank on it at this point. We'll just have to wait and see...as of now though...I would lean in favor of a no on it happening though.
 
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not sure about roland garros but the odds of that happening at wimbledon and the US Open are quite good.
 
MotherMarjorie

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davey25 said:
Now that it is increasingly evident the overrated and overhyped Justine Henin is no longer any threat even on her beloved clay, and seeing how well both Williams sisters are playing I am more and more convinced we will be seeing an all Williams final at this years French. The Williams haters (and they are plentiful on this forum) will really love that. An All Williams final on their worst surface of clay. I cant wait.
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Justine Henin d. Maria Sharapova 6-2, 3-6, 6-3

Nadia Petrova d. Venus Williams 6-4, 6-3

You really don't know much about tennis, do you?
 
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Venus got murdered, not surprising really. We'll have Henin/Jankovic - Dementieva (if only she had a serve) final.
 
Raiden

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Venus should have ignored the weather and stayed with her previous bra-less lucky outfit, instead of showing up with something else.

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MotherMarjorie

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jerriy said:
Venus should have ignored the weather and stayed with her previous bra-less lucky outfit, instead of showing up with something else.

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It wouldn't have mattered what the cocktail waitress wore. The beat-down was inevitable. The number two ranked player in the world can't even make it to the semi's of a grand slam this year. And she hasn't beaten anyone in the top five in a VERY long time.
 
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