Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Excellent post.
So you have Nadal pegged at hangin up his racket with between 20 to 35 slams. Good math, overall.
Could 2012 be the year that Nadal retires?
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So you have Nadal pegged at hangin up his racket with between 20 to 35 slams. Good math, overall.
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celoft
Guest
Don't know about retirement, but 2012 could be the last year Nadal wins a slam.
Borg, Sampras and Federer all won at least a slam for 8 years in a row.
Borg, Sampras and Federer all won at least a slam for 8 years in a row.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Yes, 91% first serves showed he was playing horribly. :lol: Face it, he played as well as he ever could but the other guy played in god mode. Nadal's 2008 Wimbledon performance is overrated by the way. He was in all sorts of trouble against a meek Federer. The only reason Nadal shined is because Federer has the worst BP conversion on the tour. 1 for 12 in the final that day. Djokovic on the other hand is by far superior on BPs and he didn't let Nadal off the hook the way Federer tends to.
Based on stats, Nadal actually played as good or better in the 2011 Wimbledon final than he did in the 2008 Wimbledon final. Djokovic just has his number unfortunately.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
A win over the world #1 is meaningless I see. :lol:
Hood_Man
G.O.A.T.
Nadal will be pushing for a 7th French Open in 2012 I'm sure.
Thing is... I don't think he's been the same since 2009. When he lost in that French Open it wouldn't have been all bad. Sure he was devastated, sure his pride had taken a huge knock, and sure he was probably worried about how his body would hold out as well.
BUT... for the first time since 2004 I guess, he had time off to spend with his family and friends for his birthday. It's something we mere mortals take for granted.
That was a big taste of freedom for a young man who really hasn't had it before.
Depending on how he does next year though, I can see him retiring in 2013.
Thing is... I don't think he's been the same since 2009. When he lost in that French Open it wouldn't have been all bad. Sure he was devastated, sure his pride had taken a huge knock, and sure he was probably worried about how his body would hold out as well.
BUT... for the first time since 2004 I guess, he had time off to spend with his family and friends for his birthday. It's something we mere mortals take for granted.
That was a big taste of freedom for a young man who really hasn't had it before.
Depending on how he does next year though, I can see him retiring in 2013.
passive_aggressive
Banned
Nadal will at the very least reach all slam finals in 2012.
Djokovic's body HAS been broken down pretty badly and may not necessarily be a threat to Nadal next year.
Now, obviously, Djokovic will reach all the slam finals in 2012 as well, but Rafa will probably beat him in all those slam finals.
Djokovic's body HAS been broken down pretty badly and may not necessarily be a threat to Nadal next year.
Now, obviously, Djokovic will reach all the slam finals in 2012 as well, but Rafa will probably beat him in all those slam finals.
Mighty Matteo
Semi-Pro
Everyone has such little confidence in these top pros. Nadal will be back and playing well next year, just wait. Remember what happened to Federer after 2008. All of this is coming from a Federer fan. They all bounce back. Having some time off does incredible things to their motivation.
TennisLovaLova
Hall of Fame
Funny post please continue
Crisstti
Legend
I'm not so sure about that. I would think it's more likely the opposite is the case.
Good point...
Crisstti
Legend
Well, he was sick, at least during one of the matches.
Agree, pretty much. It's very difficult now.
Homeboy Hotel
Hall of Fame
Sheer opportunism.
He wont retire yet, even if his results start declining he's making a sh/t load of money, loves travelling, loves the fame and fans, think he can get back on top.
To himself, it would be sheer humiliation if he was to retire BEFORE Federer. 2014...2015 the earliest for him, I would say.
He wont retire yet, even if his results start declining he's making a sh/t load of money, loves travelling, loves the fame and fans, think he can get back on top.
To himself, it would be sheer humiliation if he was to retire BEFORE Federer. 2014...2015 the earliest for him, I would say.
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nikdom
Guest
Well, a man can hope. The sooner the better - can't stand his idiotic fans around these forums.
nadalwon2012
Banned
Likewise....Nadal winning 3 or 4 slams next year should be enough to knock you and plenty more nadal-haters out of cyberspace for life
namelessone
Legend
You want a living legend out of the game as soon as possible. Some tennis fan.
And all so you can feel better in a space that doesn't really matter, cyberspace.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Likewise....Nadal winning 3 or 4 slams next year should be enough to knock you and plenty more nadal-haters out of cyberspace for life
Likewise....Djokovic winning 3 or 4 slams next year should finally separate real Nadal fans from glory hunters. There will be 3 left.
namelessone
Legend
And who are these mysterious 3?
Gee,I hope I'm among them. It would suck to know that I've been a gloryhunter since 2004 and did not know it.
nadalwon2012
Banned
LOL a glory hunter. Yep a glory hunter would be posting under a Nadal username in 2011....even after Nadal lost to Djokovic for the 6th time and then got hammered by Federer at the World Tour Finals.....right.....
Crisstti
Legend
I doubt Rafa loves to travel. If anything, he seems to hate being away from his family and friends.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
TopFH
Hall of Fame
According to you logic: Since Fed has more slams than Nadal, it will be easy for him to keep that lead.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
You're still so confident when Nadal is the current French Open champion. Let's see what you do when your hero goes 2 full years slamless.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
I don't know but the fact remains that I haven't seen too many Nadal fans post lately, where's Bud btw?
nadalwon2012
Banned
He will probably be around age 35 when that happens, no problem there.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Keep the comedy coming. Nadal will still be playing at 35? Not a chance. :lol:
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
tusharlovesrafa
Hall of Fame
After ages sentinel posts are spewing venom as it used to...Keep this form going, dude..
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Didnt read the last line, did you?. The first part was sarcasm towards the pessimistic rafans.
I was remembering you the other day. Wherer have you been, How did your exams go ? I am just having digs at some Nadfans, that's all
ViscaB
Hall of Fame
I think they are all tired of that element. Who loves traveling and staying in hotels. I live half a world away from my home country and at times that sucks.
The key is to generate a big entourage with family and friends. Like most of the players do. Like Fed with his wife and kids traveling with his private jet. You have to think what happens when the kids need to go to school.
nadalwon2012
Banned
A hint of desperation about this thread. The same posters probably had a thread like this in 2009 :lol: and we know what happened after that :lol:
syc23
Professional
Can see Rafa playing until 30-32. However, if Federer has a stellar 2012 and adds to his 16GS then surely for Rafa, that will be out of reach and could be the demotivating factor in speeding up his retirement.
Victory at Roland Garros is crucial to keep Nadal motivated to continue - if Federer and Djoko wrestle the RG title off Rafa, then the wheels might come off.
Murray might be in with a shout to get to more GS finals as he will always be on Rafa's side of the draw so he could benefit from a declining Nadal.
We shall see. it's going to be an interesting 2012.
Victory at Roland Garros is crucial to keep Nadal motivated to continue - if Federer and Djoko wrestle the RG title off Rafa, then the wheels might come off.
Murray might be in with a shout to get to more GS finals as he will always be on Rafa's side of the draw so he could benefit from a declining Nadal.
We shall see. it's going to be an interesting 2012.
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
Don't worry old guy, he'll get to 18 GS or more. You'll just have to wait and see....
aphex
Banned
Don't worry old guy, he'll get to 18 GS or more. You'll just have to wait and see....
I'd love to see you have a debate with namelessone on the subject...
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Thanks, bro. You made my day.Don't worry old guy, he'll get to 18 GS or more. You'll just have to wait and see....
tusharlovesrafa
Hall of Fame
Didnt read the last line, did you?. The first part was sarcasm towards the pessimistic rafans.
I was remembering you the other day. Wherer have you been, How did your exams go ? I am just having digs at some Nadfans, that's all
My exams went very bad..I have not reagined my lost form..I need to keep trying..find solutions..i tried my best..
I was missing u too..after all you were the one that pointed out how bad my english is..Missed u dear...:twisted:
YOu may be old physically but u have a heart of a dude..:twisted:
nadalwon2012
Banned
Federer won the 2010 World Tour Finals, and he did it in more impressive fashion than this year (this year he almost lost to Tsonga twice, and Fish). Doesn't seem to help him with his slams, no slams in 2011.
Nadal only won 6 less matches than Djokovic this year. And Nadal has the best tv ads by far http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTVNeA6L0nM The song in this ad is literally my favorite song of 2011.
CityTennis22
Rookie
I'm thinking that whoever has a good Davis Cup final at the end of the year (Rafa/Delpo) and actually hoists the cup is going to be a major contender for grand slams next year. It's such a big confidence boost and it definitely is what Rafa needs right now.
nice cross-reference
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Going 3 sets doesn't mean Federer almost lost, *******. :lol:
IvanisevicServe
Banned
I think Nadal has the next 2 years to win slams. Winning 16 is a stretch...would need Djokovic to be interfered with/go down with injury in order for that to happen.
After that...just seems highly unlikely to me. The "more than 8 years after first GS" mark seems like a good indicator for major decline when I look back through the big names.
After that...just seems highly unlikely to me. The "more than 8 years after first GS" mark seems like a good indicator for major decline when I look back through the big names.
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nikdom
Guest
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
Djokovicforthewin won't have a reason to live if Rafa retires. Hope, Rafa retires soon....
nadalwon2012
Banned
The way Nadal is on clay, looks like Djokovic is the only player who knows how handle Nadal's topspin on clay. If Djokovic can't stop Nadal at Roland Garros, the odds are Nadal will be winning Roland Garros into his 30s. Sure somebody else may come along, but let's not forget that most players of this generation and probably next generation are hardcourt players. Tomic is no claycourt, that is for sure. So even if Nadal becomes 100% reliant on Roland Garros to rack up slams, he will continue to win it and probably finish with around 10 Roland Garros titles, and definitely 16+ slams (because he is still a big thread at hardcourt slams and Wimbledon, so should win at least a couple more of non-clay slams).
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
this assuming of course that
a) nadal doesnt experience any physical/mental decline
b) has no injury
c) that destroying juan monaco is a good barometer of where his game is at the moment.
I will give him the fact that he destroyed gasquet on clay after USO. he is a pretty good clay court player.
