How many more Slams do you think Djokovic will win?

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

This one's tougher to say, too many variables. And again, give your predictions as well, if you would.

I'll say he's gonna win 5 more. But I'm pretty sure I'll be wrong.

3 Australian Open
2 US Open

kishnabe · Oct 20, 2012

3-5 more.

1 AO, 1FO,1 US.

Clarky21 · Oct 20, 2012

12-14.

10char

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

Clarky21 said:
12-14.

10char

Even if he won 3 an year for the next 4 years, he'd still not win 14 more. You can not be serious.

NadalAgassi · Oct 20, 2012

8 more:

4 Australian Opens
2 French Opens
2 U.S Opens

Clarky21 · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
Even if he won 3 an year for the next 4 years, he'd still not win 14 more. You can not be serious.

Well I am. He has no competition so what makes you think he can't win that many?

And meant as a total he will win 12-14 slams. Not 12-14 more on top of the 5 he already has.

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

NadalAgassi said:
8 more:

4 Australian Opens
2 French Opens
2 U.S Opens

So, between them, Djokovic and Nadal are gonna win 6 more FOs, 5 more AOs, 3 more USOs, and 2 more Ws? That's 16 Grand Slams, exactly as many as they've won already.

NadalAgassi · Oct 20, 2012

Clarky21 said:
Well I am. He has no competition so what makes you think he can't win that many?

So do you think he will break Federer's slam mark? I dont know how many more (if any) you predict Federer to win but he currently has 17 and your prediction for Djokovic would take him to 17 to 19.

NadalAgassi · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
So, between them, Djokovic and Nadal are gonna win 6 more FOs, 5 more AOs, 3 more USOs, and 2 more Ws? That's 16 Grand Slams, exactly as many as they've won already.

Well lets see, we have a worthless crop of players aged 20-23, a rather worthless group of teenagers (the few that exist) trying to make their way on the ATP tour now, an uninspiring junior group. Other than Murray who else is going to win any slams the next 5 years. Bernard Tomic, Kei Nishikori, Ryan Harrison, LOL! At some point some new talent (real talent not just a Raonic level who might win 1 slam someday if he is really lucky) will emerge but be prepared to wait a long time since there is no indication there is any on the near horizon and expect atleast 2 if not all of Djokovic, Nadal, and Murray to win ALOT more slams. I guess Del Potro "could" win another slam or two before he retires, but dont bet on it happening either, and dont expect him to win alot of future slams, that is for sure.

The French Open prediction looks especialy right. Unless his body falls off Nadal can win French Opens into his 30s, and when was the least up and comer that emerged on clay of any ilk since Nadal.

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

NadalAgassi said:
Well lets see, we have a worthless crop of players aged 20-23, a rather worthless group of teenagers (the few that exist) trying to make their way on the ATP tour now, an uninspiring junior group. Other than Murray who else is going to win any slams the next 5 years. At some point some new talent (real talent not just a Raonic level who might win 1 slam someday if he is really lucky) will emerge but be prepared to wait a long time since there is no indication there is any on the near horizon and expect atleast 2 if not all of Djokovic, Nadal, and Murray to win ALOT more slams. I guess Del Potro "could" win another slam or two before he retires, but dont bet on it happening either, and dont expect him to win alot of future slams, that is for sure.

The French Open prediction looks especialy right. Unless his body falls off Nadal can win French Opens into his 30s, and when was the least up and comer that emerged on clay of any ilk since Nadal.

The Del Potros and Murrays could make a big dent on your predictions even with a couple of wins at the wrong Grand Slams. And there could be a Nadal-lite out there somewhere.

smoledman · Oct 20, 2012

I think 5-6 is reasonable.

2 AO
1 FO
1 Wimby
2 US Opens

NadalAgassi · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
The Del Potros and Murrays could make a big dent on your predictions even with a couple of wins at the wrong Grand Slams. And there could be a Nadal-lite out there somewhere.

People have making grand predictions for Del Potro and his "comeback" (which is now over 2 years old and is still referred to as such oddly) for years now. He is 24 and has won exactly 1 title over 500 level in his career. As I said I guess it is possible he could win another slam or even two before he retires, but it also should surprise nobody if he wins zero more, and even the former will barely make a dent in the grand scheme of things.

I already accounted for Murray winning about another 4 slams in my predictions. As I said other than Nadal, Djokovic, and Murray there might be 2 slams at best going somewhere else in the next 5 years, maybe even 0. There is nobody coming up at all who is champion calibre other than a 1 time fluke sort. That person will emerge at some point but certainly arent on the scope yet.

RF20Lennon · Oct 20, 2012

No1e said:
I just hope Djokovic can win the most slams ever at the end of his career. More than Federer, that's the goal.

he will probably end up with 7-9 but im pretty sure hes not going to break the 11 mark (not that i dislike hes my second fav tied with Murray) But he was an extremely Late Bloomer and that cost him

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

No1e said:
I just hope Djokovic can win the most slams ever at the end of his career. More than Federer, that's the goal.

13 more is too tough. There might be no challengers on the horizon but 13 is more than anybody except Sampras and Federer have won over their entire careers! And Djokovic's best is behind him, I don't think he has another 2011 in him (although me mightn't need one to win 3 Slams).

RF20Lennon · Oct 20, 2012

NadalAgassi said:
People have making grand predictions for Del Potro and his "comeback" (which is now over 2 years old and is still referred to as such oddly) for years now. He is 24 and has won exactly 1 title over 500 level in his career. As I said I guess it is possible he could win another slam or even two before he retires, but it also should surprise nobody if he wins zero more, and even the former will barely make a dent in the grand scheme of things.

I already accounted for Murray winning about another 4 slams in my predictions. As I said other than Nadal, Djokovic, and Murray there might be 2 slams at best going somewhere else in the next 5 years, maybe even 0. There is nobody coming up at all who is champion calibre other than a 1 time fluke sort. That person will emerge at some point but certainly arent on the scope yet.

Is your sig true?? Did Prisoner of Birth actually say that? doesnt sound like him

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

NadalAgassi said:
People have making grand predictions for Del Potro and his "comeback" (which is now over 2 years old and is still referred to as such oddly) for years now. He is 24 and has won exactly 1 title over 500 level in his career. As I said I guess it is possible he could win another slam or even two before he retires, but it also should surprise nobody if he wins zero more, and even the former will barely make a dent in the grand scheme of things.

I already accounted for Murray winning about another 4 slams in my predictions. As I said other than Nadal, Djokovic, and Murray there might be 2 slams at best going somewhere else in the next 5 years, maybe even 0. There is nobody coming up at all who is champion calibre other than a 1 time fluke sort. That person will emerge at some point but certainly arent on the scope yet.

I'm feeling a Berdych win for some reason. Sounds unlikely but I don't know, I can see him winning one if he pulls it together for 2 matches. He's definitely got the game.

NadalAgassi · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
13 more is too tough. There might be no challengers on the horizon but 13 is more than anybody except Sampras and Federer have won over their entire careers! And Djokovic's best is behind him, I don't think he has another 2011 in him (although me mightn't need one to win 3 Slams).

The slam counts of Federer and Sampras both are overrated and misleading. Had it been Open tennis for years Gonzales, Laver, Rosewall, Tilden, would all have more slams than both. People were shocked the Sampras slam mark fell so quickly but it was a fairly soft mark to begin with, I always said his best records by far were his 6 year end #1s, his 7 Wimbledons, and his 5 U.S Opens over a 12 year span and 8 finals there. I expect this to become increasingly obvious in the future. Federer's slam mark and its prestige actually benefits from Sampras and his naive inflation of its value to the press.

RF20Lennon · Oct 20, 2012

No1e said:
I like how you always present your opinions as facts. It's almost funny.

I dont think its behind him but now that Murray has confidence and Nadal is coming back and that Fed is not done quite yet a 2011 like year is not that easy to do

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

RF20Lennon said:
Is your sig true?? Did Prisoner of Birth actually say that? doesnt sound like him

Yeah, I said that. The greater player is not necessarily better. Tennis in the past 20 years is of a higher standard than back in the 60s.

NadalAgassi · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
I'm feeling a Berdych win for some reason. Sounds unlikely but I don't know, I can see him winning one if he pulls it together for 2 matches. He's definitely got the game.

Berdych's problem is Nadal has owned him since 2006, he has 0 wins over Nadal since that year, and Djokovic totally owns him. Isnt his H2H with Djokovic 1-9 now, and his only win was over Djokovic in the worst slump of his career and on his worst surface at Wimbledon 2010. When both Nadal and Djokovic are almost unbeatable for you your odds to win a slam are not that good. What are the odds of avoiding both in a draw on a potential championship run.

I think Tsonga has a better chance since he can atleast beat anyone, although his run of success vs Djokovic was years back and has dried out since (although he should have beaten him at the French this year) and he has only beaten Murray once.

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

No1e said:
I like how you always present your opinions as facts. It's almost funny.

It's no insult to say a dead man is dead. No player has multiple peaks. Djokovic had one and that was the most of 2011. He's still got an year or two of his prime left atleast.

Towser83 · Oct 20, 2012

NadalAgassi said:
8 more:

4 Australian Opens
2 French Opens
2 U.S Opens

possibly 8 more, but I don't think he'll end up with 7 AOs.

I went for 4 more though. Mainly because he couldn't back up his 2011 season with anything more than a single slam year. To get over 10 slams in total he needs more multi slam years

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

NadalAgassi said:
Berdych's problem is Nadal has owned him since 2006, he has 0 wins over Nadal since that year, and Djokovic totally owns him. Isnt his H2H with Djokovic 1-9 now, and his only win was over Djokovic in the worst slump of his career and on his worst surface at Wimbledon 2010. When both Nadal and Djokovic are almost unbeatable for you your odds to win a slam are not that good. What are the odds of avoiding both in a draw on a potential championship run.

I think Tsonga has a better chance since he can atleast beat anyone, although his run of success vs Djokovic was years back and has dried out since (although he should have beaten him at the French this year) and he has only beaten Murray once.

Okay, let me present a scenario. Let's say Federer, Nadal and Berdych are on the same side of the draw. Nadal, as we know, is prone to upsets. And he's no longer in his prime. Let's say he's upset. Berdych can deal with *******. If he does, he'll likely be in the finals. If Murray manages to beat Djokovic (which he has more than a good shot at on deco turf), we have a Berdych versus Murray final. And we know how that can go. Not saying it will happen but it could.

RF20Lennon · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
Yeah, I said that. The greater player is not necessarily better. Tennis in the past 20 years is of a higher standard than back in the 60s.

OH! in that way from what i read it sounded like Hewitt and Roddick Achieved more LOL

NadalAgassi · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
Okay, let me present a scenario. Let's say Federer, Nadal and Berdych are on the same side of the draw. Nadal, as we know, is prone to upsets. And he's no longer in his prime. Let's say he's upset. Berdych can deal with *******. If he does, he'll likely be in the finals. If Murray manages to beat Djokovic (which he has more than a good shot at on deco turf), we have a Berdych versus Murray final. And we know how that can go. Not saying it will happen but it could.

It is possible, but Berdych isnt a lock to beat Federer or Murray, he just is capable of it, he wont always do it. Berdych himself is prone to upsets, and unlike the top 4 he doesnt even always have to be off to be beaten (eg- Gulbis 1st round Wimbledon). Everything happening together like that while possible, will be difficult.

RF20Lennon · Oct 20, 2012

NadalAgassi said:
It is possible, but Berdych isnt a lock to beat Federer or Murray, he just is capable of it, he wont always do it. Berdych himself is prone to upsets, and unlike the top 4 he doesnt even always have to be off to be beaten (eg- Gulbis 1st round Wimbledon). Everything happening together like that while possible, will be difficult.

Hes extremely inconsistent thats his problem he gets hot during a few tourneys and thats it but for some reason whenever he meets fed he plays lights out

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

No1e said:
Sometimes I wonder if you can even read. Never mind, say whatever you want, I don't care.

Are you saying Djokovic is gonna show a higher level of play than he did in 2011 sometime in the future?

NadalAgassi · Oct 20, 2012

RF20Lennon said:
Hes extremely inconsistent thats his problem he gets hot during a few tourneys and thats it but for some reason whenever he meets fed he plays lights out

That is true, and when you add that to always losing to 2 players even when you get hot (Nadal and Djokovic) it isnt a great recipe for big titles.

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

NadalAgassi said:
It is possible, but Berdych isnt a lock to beat Federer or Murray, he just is capable of it, he wont always do it. Berdych himself is prone to upsets, and unlike the top 4 he doesnt even always have to be off to be beaten (eg- Gulbis 1st round Wimbledon). Everything happening together like that while possible, will be difficult.

Federer's 31 and he'll be 32 next year. He's gonna start losing to the Berdychs and Tsongas more often than he did in the past. Beating Murray will be tougher. Also, theoretically, I think Berdych has just the kind of game that can beat Nadal. I'm surprised how ineffective he's become of late.

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

No1e said:
Why not? He's only 25 now, and with Nadal's knee problem and Fed aging, Murray might be the only one to stop him. So why not?

He could win 4 Slams next year but that wouldn't be his peak, unless you judge peak by success and not level of play.

PS - He's gonna be 26 next year. Most players have their prime between 21-27. If Djokovic is gonna hit his peak soon, he doesn't have much time left to do that. He'll be 26 next year.

BauerAlmeida · Oct 20, 2012

3 AO
2 RG
1 Wimbledon
2 USO

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

No1e said:
Read your own post, you are either trying to make up some stupid stuff or your logic behind it is too deep that you might have to explain it clearer. And, since you have noticed Nole will only be 26 next year, don't make it sound like another year of Nole's domination is impossible.

Look at Federer in 2005 (2 Slams) and Federer in 2007 (3 Slams). Which year did he play better Tennis in? You can't be that dumb.

BauerAlmeida · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
Look at Federer in 2005 (2 Slams) and Federer in 2007 (3 Slams). Which year did he play better Tennis in? You can't be that dumb.

Well, exactly. He maybe will not play as good as in 2011, but he can still win 3 slams in a year (or even 4).

As you said, Fed clearly played better in 2005, but he won one more slam in 2007. Same can happen to Novak.

Gonzo_style · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
Look at Federer in 2005 (2 Slams) and Federer in 2007 (3 Slams). Which year did he play better Tennis in? You can't be that dumb.

Fed have only 4 losses in 2005 but he didn't play on 4 Masters tournaments! Also, he's USO run isn't that impressive...

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

BauerAlmeida said:
Well, exactly. He maybe will not play as good as in 2011, but he can still win 3 slams in a year (or even 4).

As you said, Fed clearly played better in 2005, but he won one more slam in 2007. Same can happen to Novak.

I'm not saying Djokovic can't win 3 or even 4 Slams an year again. I'm saying it's unlikely. Would you disagree?

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

Gonzo_style said:
Fed have only 4 losses in 2005 but he didn't play on 4 Masters tournaments! Also, he's USO run isn't that impressive...

It's still way better than his 2007. He started losing to players he'd have destroyed in 2005 during the later parts of 2007.

BauerAlmeida · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
I'm not saying Djokovic can't win 3 or even 4 Slams an year again. I'm saying it's unlikely. Would you disagree?

4 yes, very unlikely.

3 not so much. If Nadal doesn't came back strong, I would say he has big chances.

kaku · Oct 20, 2012

I'd say 4-5 more, most of them AO's and USO's and maybe a FO or 2

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

BauerAlmeida said:
4 yes, very unlikely.

3 not so much. If Nadal doesn't came back strong, I would say he has big chances.

But don't you think Murray is a pretty big challenger now? I'd say Murray now is definitely better than Djokovic on Grass and marginally better on US Open Hards.

Gonzo_style · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
It's still way better than his 2007. He started losing to players he'd have destroyed in 2005 during the later parts of 2007.

Nalbandian??????? Nalby beat him on TMC!!!!!

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

No1e said:
Again, this is ONLY your opinion. NOT A FACT. We are talking about the likelihood here, and the fact is yes it is possible for him to outdo his-2011-self. You can argue that it probably won't happen, but you can't reject the possibility that it can, because you are not a ****ing psychic, you do not know the future.

I never said it's impossible. Stop crapping your pants and start reading.

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

Gonzo_style said:
Nalbandian??????? Nalby beat him on TMC!!!!!

Look at who beat him in 2007. Nalbandian's a much better player than he's given credit for.

BauerAlmeida · Oct 20, 2012

Gonzo_style said:
Nalbandian??????? Nalby beat him on TMC!!!!!

True. But he lost to Cañas twice. I don't think he would've lost to him in 2005. Or against Volandri (and the way he did).

NadalAgassi · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
But don't you think Murray is a pretty big challenger now? I'd say Murray now is definitely better than Djokovic on Grass and marginally better on US Open Hards.

So that just means if Nadal doesnt come back strong Djokovic wins the Australian, the French, and possibly wins one of Wimbledon or the U.S Open, as even if Murray were the favorite for both he wouldnt neccessarily win both.

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

No1e said:
yeah, tell yourself that. None of the things you said is fact. Get over yourself.

Okay, I'll give you a fact. Djokovic will NEVER match (or surpass) Federer's Grand Slam count. That is a fact. And yes, I'm a psychic. And now I can laugh in your face every single time you post.

Gonzo_style · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
Look at who beat him in 2007. Nalbandian's a much better player than he's given credit for.

BauerAlmeida said:
True. But he lost to Cañas twice. I don't think he would've lost to him in 2005. Or against Volandri (and the way he did).

PoB said "later parts in 2007"! And Nalby beats him in Madrid and Paris, that was the later parts i think

Prisoner of Birth · Oct 20, 2012

NadalAgassi said:
So that just means if Nadal doesnt come back strong Djokovic wins the Australian, the French, and possibly wins one of Wimbledon or the U.S Open, as even if Murray were the favorite for both he wouldnt neccessarily win both.

But Nadal is coming back and coming back strong enough to win the French. If he retires anytime in the next year, then I'll change my mind and my predictions.

hisrob777 · Oct 20, 2012

I think he'll win 4 to 6 more grand slams. He is a threat on every surface.

BauerAlmeida · Oct 20, 2012

NadalAgassi said:
So that just means if Nadal doesnt come back strong Djokovic wins the Australian, the French, and possibly wins one of Wimbledon or the U.S Open, as even if Murray were the favorite for both he wouldnt neccessarily win both.

And who else do you think can stop him?? Bo5 Federer only can on Wimbledon I think. And Del Potro don't think so (you even said it, he has poor fitness, and no way you beat Djokovic in a Bo5 match with bad fitness).

Clarky21 · Oct 20, 2012

Prisoner of Birth said:
Okay, I'll give you a fact. Djokovic will NEVER match (or surpass) Federer's Grand Slam count. That is a fact. And yes, I'm a psychic. And now I can laugh in your face every single time you post.

Sounds like you're getting a little worried about Fed's slam count.

With the lack of competition,******* has a great chance to catch Fed when it's all said and done.

How many more Slams do you think Djokovic will win?

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