GoodVibrations
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Nice pic but oh wow, that haircut...
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librarysteg
Hall of Fame
Why is he looking so excited to be holding a bowl of grapes? 
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
It's incredible how boyish he looks. Boyish and dorky. And plain adorable. Yeah, a bit thin, I hope his morale is not too low. All that sh-t happening to him when he has sacrificed so much for his career. Hope he's feeling ok.
Clarky21
Banned
Clarky21
Banned
Why is he looking so excited to be holding a bowl of grapes?
It's some kind of good luck thing in Spain(I think) to scarf down 12 grapes as fast as possible when the New Year starts at midnight. He did it last year too but it sure didn't help him in 2012, so I doubt it will this time either. Lol.
librarysteg
Hall of Fame
Thanks! I've never heard of that one. I just bought grapes today...I'll have to try it.
Hood_Man
G.O.A.T.
Sorry, I just love his facial expression :lol: I might start using it as my "disagree" pic.
I think his hair looks nice. It makes him look smart & boyish (he is only 26 after all), & kind of sweet.
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GoodVibrations
Rookie
Oh, that's interesting! I thought it was like, commentary on his stomach virus. "This is all I can eat."
Crayola Oblongata
Hall of Fame
Look at him, with his little bowl of grapes!!!
Party hard.
Party hard.
Crisstti
Legend
He does look adorable
I guess it's silly since he probably didn't write the tweet, but he always adds exclamation signs and he didn't this time... anyway, hope he's feeling fine.
Sorry, I just love his facial expression :lol: I might start using it as my "disagree" pic.
I think his hair looks nice. It makes him look smart & boyish (he is only 26 after all), & kind of sweet.
Lol, it is a good "disagree" pic.
Rafa does look similar to that physicist guy you posted...
Agree his hair looks fine also.
BTW, happy new year everyone
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Happy new year Crisstti!! Hoping for good health all around and lots of great tennis matches of course!
Rocky89
Professional
I really hope he grows it out too...he looks like a middle aged man with that hair cut!
Clarky21
Banned
It's awful. I think it makes him look like an awkward 15 year old boy. He should have left his hair the way it was back in MC this year. It looked great then.
Rocky89
Professional
Nadal tweets!
Feliz Año 2013, Happy Year 2013.
Nice photo. Looks like he had a quiet new years with his bowl of grapes.
vernonbc
Legend
Why is he looking so excited to be holding a bowl of grapes?
From Wikipedia:
Spanish New Year's Eve (Nochevieja or Fin de Año) celebrations usually begin with a family dinner, traditionally including shrimp or prawns, and lamb or capon. Spanish tradition says that wearing new, red underwear on New Year's Eve brings good luck. The actual countdown is primarily followed from the clock on top of the Casa de Correos building in Puerta del Sol Square in Madrid. It is traditional to eat twelve grapes, one on each chime of the clock. This tradition has its origins in 1909, when grape growers in Alicante thought of it as a way to cut down on the large production surplus they had had that year. Nowadays, the tradition is followed by almost every Spaniard, and the twelve grapes have become synonymous with the New Year. After the clock has finished striking twelve, people greet each other and toast with sparkling wine such as cava or champagne, or with cider.
GoodVibrations
Rookie
I don't know if the cut makes him look like he's in high school or middle age.
Yes, happy new year to all in here, this is my favorite thread as Rafa has the best fans.
BTW, happy new year everyone
Yes, happy new year to all in here, this is my favorite thread as Rafa has the best fans.
reversef
Hall of Fame
Do you believe your own lies? What self-talk can do!
By the way, if you want to see a player who needs excuses for his defeats, look at Big Nose: His Ugly Majesty knows much more about the subject than Rafael Nadal.
reversef
Hall of Fame
Crisstti
Legend
Red underwear?, funny, it's yellow here.
Anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbO2WvPIEwE&feature=em-uploademail
Anyway
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbO2WvPIEwE&feature=em-uploademail
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
So you can't stand when people criticize your favorite player Nadal and what do you do? You respond by criticizing Federer?
I have got news for you, there is one player in the history of the sport who has made more excuses for losses than any other player and it is not Federer. You need to be able to see the faults of your favorite player. You can say Federer may seem cocky at times or he may take stabs at other players at times but when it comes to excuses for losses, that is clearly Nadal's territory.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
reversef
Hall of Fame
I wish your player to get as many problems as Nadal has and we will see. The fact is that Nadal actually avoids talking much about his injuries
Maybe you should try seeing the faults of your player too. Federer barely gets injured, but when he has some little thing, we know it, don't worry. He complains about the surfaces too (especially after a loss), about the light on the court, and many other things.
If you can't stand criticisms of your player, stop your silly accusations of some other ones.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
I am not the one who can't stand criticism of my favorite player. I just said above that he can be cocky and take stabs at other players, do you not read?
But in the excuse dept., Nadal OWNS that territory. How any Nadal fan can deny that fact is beyond me. As to Nadal's problems, save it. I don't believe the seriousness of the "injuries" over the years. How does one control one's injuries so that one is perfect for clay season and "injured" when HC and grass comes around? I bet most people wish they could control their injuries/illnesses that way.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
I agree. Rafa had that foot malformation before he became a top player and that's something he's had to overcome throughout his career (the knees being a consequence of the initial foot problem). It is stunning how much he's managed to achieve, considering such a handicap. Fed is lucky enough to never have had a significant physical impediment and good for him but that's nothing to gloat about. If he had had the congenital foot issue that Rafa had, he would probably have spent most of his pro years sobbing in the locker room and that's assuming he'd have even sustained a pro career at all.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Why not from now on just play the Clay court season and stop playing for the rest of the year ? and Do that every year til he retires. This way he can prolong his career for a long time.
librarysteg
Hall of Fame
Crisstti
Legend
Please CC, show us your data.
Rafa has had a lot more injury problems than most players, so it's actually only logical you would have heard more about them. Not too hard to understand really.
I am not the one who can't stand criticism of my favorite player. I just said above that he can be cocky and take stabs at other players, do you not read?
But in the excuse dept., Nadal OWNS that territory. How any Nadal fan can deny that fact is beyond me. As to Nadal's problems, save it. I don't believe the seriousness of the "injuries" over the years. How does one control one's injuries so that one is perfect for clay season and "injured" when HC and grass comes around? I bet most people wish they could control their injuries/illnesses that way.
He's missed RG due to injury twice, and there's 2009 too. Learn some facts before you talk.
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intrepidish
Hall of Fame
Given your standard, you should be pretty quiet yourself
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
I am still waiting for proof of Nadal "injuries" vis-à-vis his MRI or X-ray results. Unless you have seen them yourself, you have no proof. You can believe whatever you wish re his injuries and that is fine, but you have no proof of his injuries.
Rocky89
Professional
Give it a rest cc, you sound like a broken record with these silent ban and fake injury conspiracy theories.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Turn the volume down then.
What IS a broken record is having to listen to the Nadal camp come up with its inconsistent injury reports which allow people to form these type of conclusions about whether Nadal's injury is as serious as is claimed. If Nadal's camp was not so incompetent in this area, maybe more people would believe the injury claims.
Rocky89
Professional
All that proves is that Nadal's knees are more problematic than originally thought. You can't predict how long it takes to recover from this kind of injury or predict an illness. Come on now, if it were a silent ban they would have just made a statement that he will be out for 6 months, or is it now 8 months? Because of course his silent ban has been extended for some unknowable reason.
I know you think the injury is fake because of the inconsistency, but in all seriousness how would you explain the injection marks at Wimbledon, reports from RG that he was playing infiltrated, the countless reports and sightings of him flying to doctors for treatment in the last 6 months? (if he were faking an injury why not just say he was visiting a doctor in Mallorca instead of flying all across Spain and France for treatment). Surely he is not such a dedicated con artist?
intrepidish
Hall of Fame
Moronic standard.
No one in the world outside an athlete's camp has access to his health records. By the same standard, you can neither prove nor deny anything about anyone in the public eye.
If it is the knee injury, then why the BS about a stomach virus?
And knee injuries are usually quite predictable. At least over a 6month timeframe. That being said, because of the number if times Nadal's knee has been injured I can buy the idea that it is harder for his camp to be confident when his knee will be ready, because they need to be absolutely certain. Then again, knee issues are not the reason he has withdrawn from the AO.
Crisstti
Legend
You have got to be kidding me!
He does? You mean only when the clay season is finished right?
Have you seen copies of his X-rays or MRI's? If you have not please be quiet.
Uhm, no, which is why I mentioned the fact that he's withdrawn TWICE from the event. You know, he's withdrawn twice at Wimbledon, once at the USO and twice at the AO. This actually PROVES he isn't injured just after the clay season ends.
Thanks for playing.
Lol, please be quiet then cc. Because you haven't seen such copies either.
No one needs to prove an injury or illness to some overly curious stranger. If you want to claim they're lying though, you should come up with some sort of proof.
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Crisstti
Legend
Wasn't it a while ago some sort of "proof" that it was a silent ban the fact that it was the magical 6 months that he'd be out?. Oh, the inconsistency...
As for the rest of your post, just too much sense for some.
Who says the virus is bs?.
And the knee issues ARE the reason why he's withdrawn from the AO.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
No it does not prove that at all. How does it prove that?
And no if it were a silent ban it does not mean they necessarily would have made a statement that he would be out for X number of months, why would they do that?
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I never said the injury is fake, I said I don't think it is as serious as the Nadal camp is claiming it is and surely you can admit as a Nadal fan that his PR team has botched this whole injury story badly. You can't blame people for being skeptical can you?
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
My point is that Nadal fans say an alternate theory for Nadal's absence can't be proven and I say neither can it be proven that Nadal has a serious injury or that he had the flu or whatever other 20 ailments he wants to come up with.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Crisstti please! My point is he is NEVER injured in the clay season between Monte Carlo and the French Open. It sure is amazing how Nadal can will his injuries to always play his uninjured best during the clay season.
Firstly I don't have to prove a thing, this is not a court of law. Secondly, you are right, he does not have to prove anything to anybody, but that does not mean everybody has to believe his story do they? By the same token you want to believe EVERYTHING he says even if it makes no sense logically, yet you automatically challenge anybody who may have alternate theories. My point is you are unable to prove that what Nadal says is true yet you openly criticize others for not being able to prove their theories.
To me and to many others he certainly did not look like he had a serious knee injury at the FO or at Wimbledon. People with serious knee injuries cannot compete the way Nadal does and they certainly don't enter the doubles of tune-up events like Halle if they are seriously injured. If you want to believe the crazy story that is fine, but don't expect others to believe it too.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Anybody with a brain says the virus story is BS. He was out practising on clay two days after the virus story broke.
No, the knees are not the reason he gave for withdrawing from the AO. He said the knees are fine but because he had the virus it interrupted his practice that he needed in order to be prepared for the AO.
His buddy Ferrer just gave an interview where he stated Nadal's knees are fine as well.
Crisstti
Legend
There are many things that can't be proven. It doesn't mean all theories are equally valid. Some are pure nonsense, the "silent ban" one being a good example.
Crisstti please! My point is he is NEVER injured in the clay season between Monte Carlo and the French Open. It sure is amazing how Nadal can will his injuries to always play his uninjured best during the clay season.
Uhm, can you read?, HE HAS WITHDRAWN TWICE FROM RG DUE TO INJURY. In 2004 he actually missed the whole clay season and Wimbledon.
Lol, you're the one who brought up the issue of proving anything here. Yes, you have to prove accusations against others, even in a casual conversation (or at least present a good, logical, credible basis). Otherwise you're talking bs and defaming people for the sake of it. But don't worry, I'm sure no one's going to sue you for it.
You can go and look for what I've posted about Robben in the 2010 WC and Rafa in 2005 Madrid to see how good players can play even while injured. You just don't know what you're talking about.
About Halle, I think he played doubles simple because he had entered already. There are two cases of him having played doubles despite not feeling fine or being obviously tired. There's some interview with Marc Lopez where he tells how Rafa was sick but refused to withdraw, and I believe they ended up winning the tournament. Don't remember what tournament was... maybe I'll look it up (or maybe someone remembers here). And he didn't withdraw from the doubles in Cincinnati in 2011 either, you might remember, he had just played that looong match against Verdasco and everyone thought he for sure was going to withdraw from the doubles. Even Fish (his next opponent) said he couldn't imagine Nadal would not withdraw from the doubles match).
In Halle last year, Granollers ended up withdrawing citing injury. Considering what happened afterwards, maybe Rafa was rather stupidly refusing to withdraw so he did instead.
Crisstti
Legend
Nope, only people with lacking reading skills. He had been sick for like 2 weeks by the time he was seen practising. Any reasonable person would understand he would probably feel better by then. When the story broke is irrelevant.
Again, he didn't say his knees were fine. He said he still felt something and wasn't sure if he was going to play the tournaments in January, February.
His friends are just being supportive and optimistic, much more than he has been himself. I remember Moya saying not long ago that Nadal was going to be ready for the AO.
Clarky21
Banned
It was Doha 2011. He was sick as a dog with the flu but refused to withdraw, and eventually lost to Davy in the semis. He was coughing and gagging on court he was so ill. He looked like death, and I think playing through that sickness cost him a shot at the AO that year.
Crisstti
Legend
But was it then that he won in doubles?.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Oh for Pete's sake clue in would you. Even the most diehard Nadal fan does not believe the virus story. You want to believe it is his knees fine or that he is just not ready mentally fine, but a virus one month before the AO? Get real.
People have a right to be skeptical, this whole story has been a PR nightmare. Look at this Jon Wertheim mailbag headline from today with Wertheim's corresponding remarks:
"Fans have right to question Nadal's reasons for withdrawing"
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/tennis/news/20130102/mailbag-rafael-nadal-2013/
Sports journalists are questioning Nadal's stories and they have to be as neutral as possible. They probably know what is really going on but they can't write about it as Wertheim mentions but fans can speculate away and they will.
That depends on what day it is because every day it changes. One day it is the knees that are still a problem and the next day the knees are perfect. Who can make sense of any of it? Even Benito his PR man gave some interview the other day where he denied that he ever said Nadal's knees were fine around the Olympic withdrawal time. He is a liar. He clearly said that Nadal's knees were not the problem and that he was not in the condition to compete at the Olympics. Are you going to deny that too when Benito's past comments are all over the internet in black and white?
His friends have all given statements which have proven to be incorrect--i.e. Ferrer said Nadal was going to play Doha. What his friends say have no merit and means nothing.
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Crisstti
Legend
Thanks. So, there's two documented cases of Nadal refusing to withdraw even though it obviously hurt his singles chances/wasn't fit to play. So his not withdrawing in Halle makes sense. (This is, cc, how you back up an argument).
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cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
What does him having a flu bug and playing doubles have to do with the argument that he could not have had a serious knee injury if he entered a tune-up to play both singles and doubles? They are not related in any way and you are not successfully backing up your argument.
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