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Feña14

G.O.A.T.
As I said earlier this summer, Wenger made a mistake by not going after a 360 degree CF who can play with his back to goal. Sanchez is a good player, and is a worthy addition to the squad, but we already have plenty of players who can play as a wing forward (Walcott, Oxlade, Gnabry, Joel Campbell, Podolski).

The three players I was keen on were Lewandowski, Mandzukic, and Dzeko. Lewandowski was always going to Bayern, so that was never going to happen, but Mandzukic went to Atletico for EUR 22m. Of course he's playing for the current Spanish champions, but I'm pretty sure we could have out-bid them and offered higher wages if we had pursued him. Dzeko looks set for a new contract at City, but were City to have received a decent offer (in light of their FFP and squad number problems) earlier in the summer, with the player being promised the role as number one CF at Arsenal (as opposed to number 3 at City), then it might have been a possibility.

The fluidity is going to slowly come back to our team over the next month, though it may well be too late for the trip to Goodison this weekend, but I do still feel that the failure to recruit a top quality striker is going to limit the club over the stretch again this season.

Agreed. He seems to of done a good job in identifying Chambers for the centre back role though. He also seems to know he needs a strong midfielder to play next to Ramsey. Bender, Khedira and Schneiderlin are good options, but the same old problem of not being able to get these kind of deals over the line is cropping up again.

The Chelsea team averaged out at 6'1, 175lbs, Arsenal were 5'9 and 154lbs. Men against boys again this year by the looks of things ;)
 

BlackSilver

Semi-Pro
it might only be the qualifying stages, but it's the best competition out there imo. You can keep the World Cup, lifting the Champions League makes you the best team on the planet, in my eyes.

The four main european leagues have teams that are better than the top national squads, no doubt. World Cup need to change it's format IMO, otherwise will keep having prevalence of crap matches in the elimination stage.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
The four main european leagues have teams that are better than the top national squads, no doubt. World Cup need to change it's format IMO, otherwise will keep having prevalence of crap matches in the elimination stage.

Yeah, the football at this years World Cup wasn't that great, Germany were the only truly great team. Brazil did such a fantastic job of hosting the tournament and that's what people will remember imo. The problem with the rise of the club sides, and the World Cup being in Russia and Qatar for the next 8 years means the gap will probably get bigger.
 

SempreSami

Hall of Fame
The World Cup's going the same way as Formula One, just to the highest bidder in place where the local interest isn't all that. The Olympics is in danger of doing the same.
 

PureAlph4

Semi-Pro
The Chelsea team averaged out at 6'1, 175lbs, Arsenal were 5'9 and 154lbs. Men against boys again this year by the looks of things ;)

Haha! I understand that the Barca model illustrated that you can achieve the very best with players of small stature, but to do that the players have to be fantastic when they don't have the ball (quick, high press, so you get the ball back and the match is played as you dictate), and Wenger has never been able to get the Arsenal team over the past 7-8 years to be good when out of possession.

As things stand, if no further business is done, with the signing of Mario I'd say Liverpool move clear ahead of Arsenal as prospects this season. He's not the best CF around, but perhaps the best CF currently available, and he'll contribute enough to make a difference. I think Chelsea will get c. 90 points and win the league by 5-7 points. City second, Liverpool third, and Arsenal in a desperate scrap again with Everton for fourth, which could go either way.

Btw does anyone know what's going on at Monaco? Has the owner given up on trying to out-spend the Qataris at PSG? They let players go this summer (inc. Rodriguez), have apparently been willing for Falcao to move, and haven't made big signings during the window.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Haha! I understand that the Barca model illustrated that you can achieve the very best with players of small stature, but to do that the players have to be fantastic when they don't have the ball (quick, high press, so you get the ball back and the match is played as you dictate), and Wenger has never been able to get the Arsenal team over the past 7-8 years to be good when out of possession.

As things stand, if no further business is done, with the signing of Mario I'd say Liverpool move clear ahead of Arsenal as prospects this season. He's not the best CF around, but perhaps the best CF currently available, and he'll contribute enough to make a difference. I think Chelsea will get c. 90 points and win the league by 5-7 points. City second, Liverpool third, and Arsenal in a desperate scrap again with Everton for fourth, which could go either way.

Btw does anyone know what's going on at Monaco? Has the owner given up on trying to out-spend the Qataris at PSG? They let players go this summer (inc. Rodriguez), have apparently been willing for Falcao to move, and haven't made big signings during the window.

To be honest, i've not really been paying much attention to Monaco. Apparently they want to loan Falcao out because they're struggling to meet some sort of financial target, not sure if it's FFP, but it's an interesting one.

Roma seem to want to swap Destro for Torres, which surely is some kind of joke. Destro is a great young player on low wages, why would they want to pay an old and hopeless Torres triple the money to miss open goals? :) hopefully it's true, but i'm not holding my breath.

Yeah peak Arsenal was based on power. Viera, Petit, Silva even Ljungberg and Pires had physicality to go with their high skill levels. For anyone who isn't Barcelona of 5 years ago, you do need a right blend. Go too far one way and you end up being Stoke, too far the other way and you're Arsenal. We seem to of found a happy medium, all whilst balancing the books through sales and getting rid of the older players on high wages, so it's been a very impressive summer so far.
 

Breaker

Legend
If Arse had a beast like Gareth Barry in the middle rather than simple Jack they'd have won the last 3 titles, what a player.

And already sat on the perch in fantasy league, thought there'd be a few challengers early on before fading but was mistaken, 36 more weeks on top it is then :)
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
And already sat on the perch in fantasy league, thought there'd be a few challengers early on before fading but was mistaken, 36 more weeks on top it is then :)

Mate, keeping it by Monday night should be your main concern! My team is coming for you :)
 

Breaker

Legend
Mate, keeping it by Monday night should be your main concern! My team is coming for you :)

Never in doubt :)

Jovetic is brilliant and the entire team is as sharp as the end of last season..can't wait for champions league and to smash the scum by about 5 goals.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Never in doubt :)

Jovetic is brilliant and the entire team is as sharp as the end of last season..can't wait for champions league and to smash the scum by about 5 goals.

Pfft! After yesterdays games, i'd taken my rightful place at the top of the standings :)

Unfortunately, Pellegrini decided to bench Kolarov for the sole purpose of stopping a Chelsea fan walking the TT Fantasy League title again. So yeah, he's to blame.

Either way, 2 games into the season and the gap between City/Chelsea and the rest looks huge.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Now Man Utd have signed Di Maria for way over the odds, they could win some silverware this season. Probably only the League Cup if they're lucky, but it's better than nothing. Anyone got their odds?
 

bezs

G.O.A.T.
Now Man Utd have signed Di Maria for way over the odds, they could win some silverware this season. Probably only the League Cup if they're lucky, but it's better than nothing. Anyone got their odds?

Its a dumb over indulgent buy.

"But spending heavily on yet another talented attacking midfielder is like buying your 3-year-old daughter a sports car. It's generous, but it's not really what she needs right now."

1st point of this article is so true.
http://www.espnfc.com/blog/the-match/60/post/2001224/three-points-sunderland-vs-manchester-united-by-iain-macintosh

Losing to 4-0 to MK Dons, oh dear.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Its a dumb over indulgent buy.

"But spending heavily on yet another talented attacking midfielder is like buying your 3-year-old daughter a sports car. It's generous, but it's not really what she needs right now."

1st point of this article is so true.
http://www.espnfc.com/blog/the-matc...erland-vs-manchester-united-by-iain-macintosh

Losing to 4-0 to MK Dons, oh dear.

You're spot on. Last year when they were struggling, they spent crazy money on Mata (when they already had Rooney, Kagawa and Januzaj) in an attempt to shock the team into a bit of form. They've just continued to spend in the same fashion.

Who'd of thought 18 months ago that Man Utd would be on their 3rd manager, no Champions League football and have zero transfer stratergy. They're making Chelsea and our balancing the books, getting transfers done early approach look like a model club!

Only in football eh? :)
 

Breaker

Legend
imo di maria is actually a very good buy, van gaal's (poor) tactics require at least one player to be able to break at pace for a counter attacking threat and there's no one in their squad who could do so, wherever he plays on the wings or in midfield he adds something that makes them a big threat and forces teams not to be able to attack so freely against them.

now, that will only paper over a small part of their deficiencies if another quality midfielder and centre back aren't signed but unfortunately it's a good start..

still very very funny :)
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
imo di maria is actually a very good buy, van gaal's (poor) tactics require at least one player to be able to break at pace for a counter attacking threat and there's no one in their squad who could do so, wherever he plays on the wings or in midfield he adds something that makes them a big threat and forces teams not to be able to attack so freely against them.

now, that will only paper over a small part of their deficiencies if another quality midfielder and centre back aren't signed but unfortunately it's a good start..

still very very funny :)

di maria's signing does not solve anything much. He is going to run very quickly, true, but who is he going to pass to with RVP and Rooney well off his pace? This is why the team should have been built around Berbatov. Slow possession with goals from deflected shots.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
di maria's signing does not solve anything much. He is going to run very quickly, true, but who is he going to pass to with RVP and Rooney well off his pace? This is why the team should have been built around Berbatov. Slow possession with goals from deflected shots.

Yeah, to me, Di Maria is more of a final piece of the jigsaw kind of player. The Mata signing was the same. £100 Million on that pair when they've got Blackett, Jones, Smalling and Jones at the back is worrying.

Man Utd seem to be in too much of a rush to get back to the top, instead of looking at fixing the basic issues that will be the foundation to success for the next 10 years.
 

PureAlph4

Semi-Pro
Obviously their CB situation is a mess, but if United actually go all in and sign Vidal this window, then their first XI will look pretty strong if LVG switches to four at the back:

De Gea
Rafael Rojo Jones Shaw
Vidal Herrera
Mata Rooney Di Maria
RVP

I think Di Maria paying off this season depends on them signing Vidal though.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Obviously their CB situation is a mess, but if United actually go all in and sign Vidal this window, then their first XI will look pretty strong if LVG switches to four at the back:

De Gea
Rafael Rojo Jones Shaw
Vidal Herrera
Mata Rooney Di Maria
RVP

I think Di Maria paying off this season depends on them signing Vidal though.

Doesn't look too bad at all, as you said though, the defence
is where they are short. Shaw isn't that good defensively, he could get there in time, but he's a long way off at the moment. Rojo never really impressed me, same goes for Jones.

Oh and congratulations Arsenal. That was a tricky little tie they had.
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
LVG doesn't seem to rate Rafael very highly, for whatever reason. In my opinion he's a liability in terms of positional awareness.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
LVG doesn't seem to rate Rafael very highly, for whatever reason. In my opinion he's a liability in terms of positional awareness.

When I've seen him he's either been great, or downright awful! Like most Brazilian players I suppose, there's no middle ground :)

When Ashley Young gets the nod at left wing back though, it's not looking good for you.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
After watching that incredible rollercoaster of a game, we now have two weeks of worthless internationals. Do people still wonder why people couldn't give a crap about international football?

Ramires was awful again, but scored a fantastic goal, Mikel leading breaks and back heeling assits, Costa, unplayable half the time, the other half was made up of him moonlighting as a left back and looking to fight anyone who wasn't in yellow. All that after City lose at home to Stoke and Newscastle and Crystal Palace do their own thing. Good day all round :)
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
After watching that incredible rollercoaster of a game, we now have two weeks of worthless internationals. Do people still wonder why people couldn't give a crap about international football?

Ramires was awful again, but scored a fantastic goal, Mikel leading breaks and back heeling assits, Costa, unplayable half the time, the other half was made up of him moonlighting as a left back and looking to fight anyone who wasn't in yellow. All that after City lose at home to Stoke and Newscastle and Crystal Palace do their own thing. Good day all round :)

I hate meaningless internationals too!
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
Falcao signs for Manchester United..
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Vcore89

Talk Tennis Guru
Recent signings/transfers makes my head spin so hard I feel like puking (with some non-sensical astronomical numbers involved).:|
 

PureAlph4

Semi-Pro
It's crazy. Forget about the transfer fees for a minute and look what's happening to the wages. Insane!

You didn't for a second think that the extra £2bn a season in TV money, as well as huge increases in the value of commercial deals, would end up in reasonably priced tickets for the fans, did you? Of course not - every penny ends up in the pockets of the players, agents, managers, and owners, while they push through ticket price rises to price out the fans who have supported the clubs from generation to generation, from son to father to grandfather to great-grandfather.

That's PL-era football for you!
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
You didn't for a second think that the extra £2bn a season in TV money, as well as huge increases in the value of commercial deals, would end up in reasonably priced tickets for the fans, did you?

Nope, just got out of coma, this is all new to me. Colour TVs too. Madness!
 

hawk eye

Hall of Fame
Another tactical masterplan by LVG to keep that right wing wide open. You're gonna see opponents will not know what to do with all that space. And to be sure, he will have Falcao chase down the opponent's left winger. Such a genius..
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Another tactical masterplan by LVG to keep that right wing wide open. You're gonna see opponents will not know what to do with all that space. And to be sure, he will have Falcao chase down the opponent's left winger. Such a genius..

Haha! The defensive buys have confused me, Blind, Rojo and Shaw are all left wing backs in my eyes. LVG clearly doesn't rate Rafael, whilst Smalling and Jones aren't good enough in the middle. Not sure why they've spent close to £70 Million on that one position.
 

hawk eye

Hall of Fame
Haha! The defensive buys have confused me, Blind, Rojo and Shaw are all left wing backs in my eyes. LVG clearly doesn't rate Rafael, whilst Smalling and Jones aren't good enough in the middle. Not sure why they've spent close to £70 Million on that one position.

Yes it really seems odd. Then again, tonight in a dutch football talkshow I heard that Blind was bought as a midfielder, not as a wing back. I'm wondering if Blind as a midfielder can handle the pace of the PL game. But there were always people doubting him, so that's nothing new. He's had a good WC which most pundits didn't expect. We'll just have to wait and to see what he's capable of at MU.
 

SempreSami

Hall of Fame
Haha! The defensive buys have confused me, Blind, Rojo and Shaw are all left wing backs in my eyes. LVG clearly doesn't rate Rafael, whilst Smalling and Jones aren't good enough in the middle. Not sure why they've spent close to £70 Million on that one position.

Transfermarkt.de has Blind as a defensive midfielder and Rojo as a centre half.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Transfermarkt.de has Blind as a defensive midfielder and Rojo as a centre half.

Yeah i've heard he can play there, he impressed in the World Cup with his runs down the left for me though. Wasn't he the one who crossed it for RvP's header against Spain? Having him sit in midfield seems like a waste.
 
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Federer302

Guest
Great signing for Arsenal, Welbeck.

MUFC are generally not happy, not happy at at all.
 

Lukhas

Legend
Which makes me wonder what Falcao is gonna do at ManU. They don't play Europe cups, they're not a fix for the PL title either, they don't pay more. Must be the stadium; though the policies (breaking down the kops) and the tourists don't make Old Trafford sound anywhere near what it used to sound like anymore. Or Monaco wanting the money, but even that doesn't make much sense.
The more it goes on, the less the decision making of Monaco makes any kind of sense whatsoever.
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
Which makes me wonder what Falcao is gonna do at ManU. They don't play Europe cups, they're not a fix for the PL title either, they don't pay more. Must be the stadium; though the policies (breaking down the kops) and the tourists don't make Old Trafford sound anywhere near what it used to sound like anymore. Or Monaco wanting the money, but even that doesn't make much sense.
The more it goes on, the less the decision making of Monaco makes any kind of sense whatsoever.

Man U is the only club in the world that could afford his wages in this transfer window.
 

Lukhas

Legend
Man U is the only club in the world that could afford his wages in this transfer window.
Not really. There are mega rich clubs almost everywhere; not that every single one needs a striker but other clubs can throw money at him. But that's not what I'm saying; what I'm saying is that even Monaco can afford that wage as I wrote "they don't pay more". So I literally can't see the reason why. Play PL football? Old Trafford? That ends about here honestly; and despite ManU's history it's not the smartest move for a player his caliber given the current stat of the club.
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
Not really. There are mega rich clubs almost everywhere; not that every single one needs a striker but other clubs can throw money at him. But that's not what I'm saying; what I'm saying is that even Monaco can afford that wage as I wrote "they don't pay more". So I literally can't see the reason why. Play PL football? Old Trafford? That ends about here honestly; and despite ManU's history it's not the smartest move for a player his caliber given the current stat of the club.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/bl...ao-manchester-united-formation-louis-van-gaal good article on the permutations of this summer's transfers for United.

As far as your post goes, I stand by my statement. Manchester United is the only club in the world that could afford Falcao's wages this summer. Everyone else is groaning under FFP constraints. United have a 20% income growth for the first fiscal quarter and this is before the Adidas deal kicks in.
 
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Federer302

Guest
Replacing Welbeck with Falcao, what were they thinking! ;)

I meant to say fans. MUFC fans aren't happy that a local kid who came through the academy has left for Arsenal. He was a real fan favourite. The fact he will probably flourish there makes it worse.

United used to be different to other clubs. This transfer window has ended that, noq they are just another big European club.

This article sums it up well. I am actually so disapointed
The most eye-catching deadline day deal might have been the arrival of Radamel Falcao at Old Trafford but, when you really stop and think about it, the most surprising was surely the sale of Danny Welbeck to one of Manchester United’s main rivals.

A local lad, lovingly developed by the club for 15 years and then, just as he was approaching his prime, permanently sold to Arsenal for £4 million less than getting Falcao in the building for just one season.

If any two moments summed up the shift at United from a club who placed such a huge emphasis on nurturing its own to the sort of ‘galactico’ philosophy of Real Madrid, it was surely the respective decisions on Welbeck and Falcao. Welbeck, after all, is a player who, only three years ago, was such a key part of Manchester United’s 8-2 annihilation of Arsenal. Just two years ago he was being hailed by Sir Alex Ferguson as the future of United when he signed a new contract. And only last year, it was Welbeck who Ferguson trusted above Wayne Rooney to start the most important match of the season against Real Madrid in the Champions League. It would be fascinating to know what Ferguson is thinking this morning. Rio Ferdinand was certainly in little doubt. “Welbeck is a top signing for Arsenal,” he said this morning.

Yes, of course there was the argument that Van Gaal needed to get ruthless with some of his underachieving squad but to start with someone who has been at the cub since the age of eight and whose best years are in front of him was fairly startling. Even more surprising was the willingness to strike a permanent £16 million deal with Arsenal at a time one of their most direct challengers for a top four finish were in such obvious need.

At the start of Monday, no one at Arsenal had really expected the Welbeck deal to be done. It was simply felt that United would not sell to them. Indeed, it was not until very late into the afternoon that the message began to seep out of the Emirates that, yes, deadline day might actually throw up a significant deal.
 
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