Djokovic will be afraid to play Nadal at Roland Garros 2015

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Djokovic will be afraid to play Nadal at Roland Garros 2016

by beating him on clay in monte carlo before the slam, he dug himself a big hole.....firstly he gave rafa a look of his exploits on clay and secondly he unloaded a ton of pressure of expectations off rafa's shoulders......

i think djoko will come very afraid to roland garros and rafa will be there with his confidence restored just in time for the tournament......

EDIT: in 2016 nadal will come prepared and will come with a purpose......he just bumped a truckload of pressure off his shoulders by losing to djoko in 2015 RG......novak will be almost scared of the meeting......
 
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No professional tennis player is afraid of facing another one (let alone one ATG facing another). Stop trolling!
 
Backspin1183

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I don't think anyone is afraid of playing Nadal right now. Nadal of the past is gone. He must raise his level if he is to continue his reign as the king of clay.
 
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tennis_commentator said:
Djokovic was afraid of Nadal's hand cramps at last year's French Open.
The Serbian gymnast will bend over every time.
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Re-read my post. Although Nadal wasn't 100%, Djokovic wasn't either. He was also sick that day and I am no Djokovic fan.
 
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Backspin1183 said:
I don't think anyone is afraid of playing Nadal right now. Nadal of the past is gone. He must raise his level if he is to continue his reign as the king of clay.
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Everyone was afraid last year at Roland Garros despite Ferrer beating Nadal in straight sets at Monte Carlo, Almagro beating Nadal at Barcelona, and Nishikori outplaying Nadal at Madrid.
No raising is required at Roland Garros, because its Nadal at Roland Garros :shock:
 
RF-18

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If this is the case, then as someone said, djokovic doesn't deserve the title, nor the CGS, not now, nor ever. If you are afraid of your rival on his ground, then you have nothing to do there in the first place.
 
Earnest One

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Backspin1183 said:
I don't think anyone is afraid of playing Nadal right now. Nadal of the past is gone. He must raise his level if he is to continue his reign as the king of clay.
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He WILL raise his level. This is a given. Nadal will NOT CRASH OUT of the FO.

I believe that Djokoic IS afraid of Nadal at the FO. Look at what happened in the past. Nobody in their right mind would not be afraid. Until he is beaten by Federer (impossible, basically) or Djokovic (possible, but unlikely) everyone will be afraid.

If Nadal isn't injured, this fear HAS TO show up: Nadal is capable of coming back from essentially any score. Everyone knows this. Tennis scoring is brutal.

I have money on Nadal (compensation for me if he wins as I would prefer Djokovic--I certainly would prefer Federer). Foggy would be a blast that would be felt far and wide for a long long time! Now THAT would be tremendous to see, especially if he beat Nadal in the final.
 
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RF-18 said:
If this is the case, then as someone said, djokovic doesn't deserve the title, nor the CGS, not now, nor ever. If you are afraid of your rival on his ground, then you have nothing to do there in the first place.
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No different to Federer (I mean the part about being afraid of your rival, not the Career Grand Slam).
Its an extremely common condition.
 
RF-18

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tennis_commentator said:
No different to Federer (I mean the part about being afraid of your rival, not the Career Grand Slam).
Its an extremely common condition.
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Since when is Federer afraid of Nadal?

They have met 33 times. If Fed was afraid to play him, he wouldn't bother meeting him in the first place.

You really think federer, a top professionall athlete, with all that he is accomplished, is afraid of a player?

haha!

I don't believe that is the case with Djoko either, he is not afraid. but if he were, then he doesn't deserve winning RG.
 
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Well, being afraid can be beneficial, it can make you more alert. If you underestimate Nadal, that is where you lose in advance.

So, I think this approach will be better for Djokovic. Courage is not that you aren't afraid, it's that you are afraid and still do it.

Trust me, you don't become an all-time great without courage.
 
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tennis_commentator said:
No different to Federer (I mean the part about being afraid of your rival, not the Career Grand Slam).
Its an extremely common condition.
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At least Fed's fear is based on something. Rafa is clay goat after all.

But, why is Rafa afraid of some random journeymen like Rosol, Davy, Darcis and Kyrgios?

Fed's fear is rational.
Rafa's fear is irrational.

Plus, Fed still doesn't avoid Rafa, Rafa avoids his rivals sometimes.

So, who is afraid? A guy who meets his rival and gets owned or a guy who skips tournaments when not 100% afraid of losing?
 
RF-18

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jg153040 said:
At least Fed's fear is based on something. Rafa is clay goat after all.

But, why is Rafa afraid of some random journeymen like Rosol, Davy, Darcis and Kyrgios?

Fed's fear is rational.
Rafa's fear is irrational.

Plus, Fed still doesn't avoid Rafa, Rafa avoids his rivals sometimes.
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Why is federer afraid of nadal? I don't believe afraid is the right word.

Yea, he knows Nadal can hurt his game and that he has an advantage, but wouldn't call it afraid of playing him.
 
uscwang

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Start da Game said:
by beating him on clay in monte carlo before the slam, he dug himself a big hole.....firstly he gave rafa a look of his exploits on clay and secondly he unloaded a ton of pressure of expectations off rafa's shoulders......

i think djoko will come very afraid to roland garros and rafa will be there with his confidence restored just in time for the tournament......
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You nailed it! Not just Novak, but also Berrer (not Ferrer), Berdych, Raonic. And boy, Fognini and Verdasco are both on a 2-match winning streak against Rafa. Imagine the pressure they will have when they play Rafa! And in the bigger picture, Coric, Lopez, Klizan, Kyrgios, Brown should all be very afraid.
 
Nadalgaenger

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I think there are two sides to this question.

1) Would Novak be especially anxious if he were to play Nadal in a SF or final at the French? Absolutely given that he has never beaten him, despite the bold predictions of TT.
2) Yet on the other hand, Novak would probably want to test himself against Nadal. He wants to play and beat the best on clay and establish himself as one of the greatest ever, and beating Nadal would be much more meaningful than knocking off Berdych or Murray.
 
ollinger

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My experience on this board tells me that people who somehow like to flaunt their illiteracy (Start da game) never have anything useful to say and usually have something mindlessly provocative to say. Yes, Rafa should certainly be brimming with confidence the way he's been getting his butt kicked lately!!
 
jm1980

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  • Djokovic beats Nadal on clay: This loss will only fire up Rafa for the French. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic loses to Nadal on clay: He can't even beat Rafa in BO3. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic doesn't play Nadal on clay: Djokovic has been avoiding Rafa. He is toast at RG.
 
FedererDropShot

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jm1980 said:
  • Djokovic beats Nadal on clay: This loss will only fire up Rafa for the French. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic loses to Nadal on clay: He can't even beat Rafa in BO3. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic doesn't play Nadal on clay: Djokovic has been avoiding Rafa. He is toast at RG.
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Until that 0-6 becomes 1-6, he is indeed toast ;)
 
Djokodal Fan

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Rafa is afraid of playing Djokovic anywhere outside clay. That is the reality. This is why he has never made it deep post US open 2013 (which was a fluke win).

Let him make it deep in any slam apart from clay and we will see who is afraid. Those beatings in 2011, 2012, post 2013 US open followed by WTF beating are still haunting the butt picker!

6 in a row....heck!
 
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RF-18 said:
Why is federer afraid of nadal? I don't believe afraid is the right word.

Yea, he knows Nadal can hurt his game and that he has an advantage, but wouldn't call it afraid of playing him.
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He is afraid to win vs Nadal, not afraid to play him. At least that's what the poster was saying.

In reality Nadal looks like he is afraid the most. He is afraid in the press. He talks like a shy schoolboy. He admitted he was afraid of Toni, lightning, dark and being alone in the house.

But ironically those fears make Rafa so good at tennis. He is insecure, so he has to overcompensate that with his tennis, so he trains more than others and fights more than others. He is willing to injure himself, he is that afraid, that he would rather injure himself than lose.
 
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jm1980 said:
  • Djokovic beats Nadal on clay: This loss will only fire up Rafa for the French. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic loses to Nadal on clay: He can't even beat Rafa in BO3. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic doesn't play Nadal on clay: Djokovic has been avoiding Rafa. He is toast at RG.
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Sad, but it's sort of true :). Whatever Djokovic did, it didn't prevent Rafa from winning RG.
 
uscwang

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jm1980 said:
  • Djokovic beats Nadal on clay: This loss will only fire up Rafa for the French. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic loses to Nadal on clay: He can't even beat Rafa in BO3. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic doesn't play Nadal on clay: Djokovic has been avoiding Rafa. He is toast at RG.
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That about sums up what Rafa's mother has to say.
 
Djokodal Fan

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jm1980 said:
  • Djokovic beats Nadal on clay: This loss will only fire up Rafa for the French. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic loses to Nadal on clay: He can't even beat Rafa in BO3. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic doesn't play Nadal on clay: Djokovic has been avoiding Rafa. He is toast at RG.
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Very well put. Every Nadal fanatic I have seen says this. To to ask them to think and post is a difficult nowadays!
 
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jm1980 said:
  • Djokovic beats Nadal on clay: This loss will only fire up Rafa for the French. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic loses to Nadal on clay: He can't even beat Rafa in BO3. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic doesn't play Nadal on clay: Djokovic has been avoiding Rafa. He is toast at RG.
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Either way, Nadal wins. :)
 
veroniquem

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The only people who are afraid right now are some frantic fans in the throes of deep-set insecurity. They're afraid their fav will lose. So they're starting a million threads about: "Djoko sucks" and "Nadal will never lose".
Relax people. Nadal has already won 42 tier 1 events. He'll be fine.
 
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jm1980 said:
  • Djokovic beats Nadal on clay: This loss will only fire up Rafa for the French. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic loses to Nadal on clay: He can't even beat Rafa in BO3. Djokovic is toast at RG.
  • Djokovic doesn't play Nadal on clay: Djokovic has been avoiding Rafa. He is toast at RG.
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I know you're being ironic, but the funny thing is you're absolutely correct.

No matter what Djokovic does, or in what year he does it - he will never beat Nadal at the French Open.
 
Steve0904

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thomasferrett said:
I know you're being ironic, but the funny thing is you're absolutely correct.

No matter what Djokovic does, or in what year he does it - he will never beat Nadal at the French Open.
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He might not have to beat Nadal at all to win RG.

Just ask Federer. He knows all about it. Of course, the VB will do their best to have it removed from the record books or have some sort of asterisk put on it, to no avail.
 
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Steve0904 said:
He might not have to beat Nadal at all to win RG.

Just ask Federer. He knows all about it.
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:lol: - pretty much my thoughts as well.
Why do so many people always act as if there are only a couple of top dogs that matter? As if all of the other players are merely there for ornamental reasons... :rolleyes:

Anyways, the entire concept of any a top athlete ever being "afraid" of playing a certain collegue is ludicrous.
If such were the case, said top player would never have made it to the top of his/her sport to start with, but would have rather taken up the blistering career of becoming a plumber at the age of 12, or something the like.
No offence meant to plumbers, btw. ;)
 
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jg153040 said:
At least Fed's fear is based on something. Rafa is clay goat after all.

But, why is Rafa afraid of some random journeymen like Rosol, Davy, Darcis and Kyrgios?

Fed's fear is rational.
Rafa's fear is irrational.

Plus, Fed still doesn't avoid Rafa, Rafa avoids his rivals sometimes.

So, who is afraid? A guy who meets his rival and gets owned or a guy who skips tournaments when not 100% afraid of losing?
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ITT: 20 year old Kyrgios is a journeyman.
 
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Start da Game said:
by beating him on clay in monte carlo before the slam, he dug himself a big hole.....firstly he gave rafa a look of his exploits on clay and secondly he unloaded a ton of pressure of expectations off rafa's shoulders......

i think djoko will come very afraid to roland garros and rafa will be there with his confidence restored just in time for the tournament......
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Yep, Nadal is destroying NOle in the psychological battle (once again).
 
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Start da Game said:
by beating him on clay in monte carlo before the slam, he dug himself a big hole.....firstly he gave rafa a look of his exploits on clay and secondly he unloaded a ton of pressure of expectations off rafa's shoulders......

i think djoko will come very afraid to roland garros and rafa will be there with his confidence restored just in time for the tournament......
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This is a great point because Djoker and Rafa have never played each other on clay before MC15 and now Rafa just learned all Djoker's "exploits"... Huge tactical error by Djoker. He should have skipped all the clay masters before RG15.
 
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Djokovic is not afraid to play Nadal anywhere. Djokovic may have a slight mental block vs Nadal at the FO (as Federer did) but I would never say Djokovic is afraid to play Nadal. That is not how the minds of these ATGs work.

If Nadal can't up his level greatly by the time the FO rolls around he may not make it to Djokovic and if he does, Djokovic has a great chance to finally defeat him. Probably his best ever and this is the first year I have ever thought that.
 
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Start da Game said:
by beating him on clay in monte carlo before the slam, he dug himself a big hole.....firstly he gave rafa a look of his exploits on clay and secondly he unloaded a ton of pressure of expectations off rafa's shoulders......

i think djoko will come very afraid to roland garros and rafa will be there with his confidence restored just in time for the tournament......
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Yea I guess this is why Federer never beat Nadal after those clay victories he had :roll:
 
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He's not afraid but the question is will he get tight/afraid mid match.

Not sure if he can handle the prosperity of leading...he might get tight if he's up 2 sets to 1 for instance.

He wants it a bit too bad; I like his approach better this year though. Slightly leaning towards him taking it finally.
 
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Quite frankly, Nadal seemed hurt last year when As the winner he had to suffer the angst of the fans preferring a different winner. I saw tears of pain. Nadal has been classy throughout his career when fans prefer another player.
 
smoledman

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Start da Game said:
by beating him on clay in monte carlo before the slam, he dug himself a big hole.....firstly he gave rafa a look of his exploits on clay and secondly he unloaded a ton of pressure of expectations off rafa's shoulders......

i think djoko will come very afraid to roland garros and rafa will be there with his confidence restored just in time for the tournament......
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Typical Start Da Fail. Yes it would have been better to LOSE to Nadal in Monte Carlo!:mad:
 
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Love the way that people forget that not that long ago, Novak beat Dull 7 straight times, and at least 2 of those were on dirt. But, don't say it, I'm way ahead of you, this is ROLAND GARROS, and it's BEST OF FIVE. Don't think Novak is any slouch in the stamina department, whereas Dull looked pretty gassed after only two sets in his straight set trip to the woodshed, but many assume that BO5 he reigns. What they don't realize, or refuse to admit, is this is old Dull, not the Dull of old.
 
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