2013-14 Season - Division 1

Who is going to win it all this year on the Men's Side

  • Virginia

    Votes: 9 19.6%
  • UCLA

    Votes: 14 30.4%
  • Georgia

    Votes: 7 15.2%
  • USC

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Baylor

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • Ohio State

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 21.7%

  • Total voters
    46
  • Poll closed .
well peralta was a really good pro..sth that farren has not shown yet..so result is not that surprising

he has a career high 213 way back in 2003. A player at USC should probably be able to be more competitive than that. Hanfmann and Sarmeinto would push current guys around the rank of 213, Quiroz as well.
 

TopDawg

G.O.A.T.
he has a career high 213 way back in 2003. A player at USC should probably be able to be more competitive than that. Hanfmann and Sarmeinto would push current guys around the rank of 213, Quiroz as well.

Peralta has beaten a lot of college guys many with better resumes than Farren in the last year on the USTA circuit

$20,000 Queen City Pro Classic Start Date: 12/19/2013 End Date: 12/22/2013
Men's Open Singles (Draw Line - 17)
F (4) Julio Peralta d. (3) Eric Quigley 7-6; 0-6; 6-2
SF (4) Julio Peralta d. Bryan Koniecko 3-6; 6-1; 6-4
Q (4) Julio Peralta d. Strong Kirchheimer 6-1; 6-0
16 (4) Julio Peralta d. John McNally 6-4; 6-2
32 (4) Julio Peralta d. Dejon Bivens 6-2; 6-0

Colorado State Open (DESIGNATED) Start Date: 9/13/2013 End Date: 9/22/2013
Men's Open Singles Main Draw (Draw Line - 1)
F (1) Julio Peralta d. (2) Brian Battistone 7-5; 7-6(5)
SF (1) Julio Peralta d. (5) Enej Bonin 6-2; 7-5
Q (1) Julio Peralta d. Diogo Rocha 6-0; 1-0
16 (1) Julio Peralta d. Aidan Talcott 6-2; 6-1

$22,000 123rd Washington State Open and Seniors Start Date: 7/30/2013 End Date: 8/4/2013
Men's Open Singles (Draw Line - 128 )
F (2) Julio Peralta d. (1) Jason Jung 6-1; 4-6; 6-4
SF (2) Julio Peralta d. (5) Luke Shields 6-2; 6-2
Q (2) Julio Peralta d. (9) Max Manthou 6-3; 6-2
16 (2) Julio Peralta d. Nicholas Kamisar 6-0; 6-1
32 (2) Julio Peralta d. Fernando Sunago 6-2; 6-1
64 (2) Julio Peralta d. Charlie Williams 6-0; 6-0

$20,000 Pacific Northwest Championships 122nd Annual Start Date: 7/22/2013 End Date: 7/28/2013
Men's Open Singles (Draw Line - 32)
F (2) Julio Peralta d. (1) Mohamed Abid 6-1; 6-3
SF (2) Julio Peralta d. Campbell Johnson 6-1; 7-5
Q (2) Julio Peralta d. (8 ) Emmett Egger 6-0; 6-1
16 (2) Julio Peralta d. Michael Chamerski 6-2; 6-0
32 (2) Julio Peralta d. Nicholas Kamisar 6-0; 6-4
 

MC86

Rookie
he has a career high 213 way back in 2003. A player at USC should probably be able to be more competitive than that. Hanfmann and Sarmeinto would push current guys around the rank of 213, Quiroz as well.

Peralta is a lot better than his ATP record suggests. Focused most of his time on cleaning up on the prize money circuit in Europe. Seems to be doing the same now in the U.S.
 

JLyon

Hall of Fame
Farren probably should have done better, but Peralta obviously still has game looking at who he has beaten recently
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
men's tennis doesn't go 6-1,6-1... he's probably still hurt ...
Farren showed no sign of injury in his matches at Ojai--he's just not that good. He beat a junior in the 1st rd and barely survived against a teaching pro in the 2nd. Smith realized this and relegated him to the Open event. He wouldn't have allowed Farren to play at all with an injury. Crystal played the Open as well, but got the call in dubs vs. UCLA. Farren got killed by Peralta, period. It was embarrassing, he was completely outclassed. You have a crush on him don't you?
 
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ClarkC

Hall of Fame
$20,000 Queen City Pro Classic Start Date: 12/19/2013 End Date: 12/22/2013
Men's Open Singles (Draw Line - 17)
F (4) Julio Peralta d. (3) Eric Quigley 7-6; 0-6; 6-2
SF (4) Julio Peralta d. Bryan Koniecko 3-6; 6-1; 6-4
Q (4) Julio Peralta d. Strong Kirchheimer 6-1; 6-0
16 (4) Julio Peralta d. John McNally 6-4; 6-2
32 (4) Julio Peralta d. Dejon Bivens 6-2; 6-0


$20,000 Pacific Northwest Championships 122nd Annual Start Date: 7/22/2013 End Date: 7/28/2013
Men's Open Singles (Draw Line - 32)
F (2) Julio Peralta d. (1) Mohamed Abid 6-1; 6-3
SF (2) Julio Peralta d. Campbell Johnson 6-1; 7-5
Q (2) Julio Peralta d. (8 ) Emmett Egger 6-0; 6-1

16 (2) Julio Peralta d. Michael Chamerski 6-2; 6-0
32 (2) Julio Peralta d. Nicholas Kamisar 6-0; 6-4

men's tennis doesn't go 6-1,6-1... he's probably still hurt ...

Take a look at these results. Mohammed Abid was #1 Haythem Abid at UCLA, by the way, and was the #1 seed and playing well enough to make the final. Emmett Egger and Strong Kircheimer got one game apiece.
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
^^Yes, Peralta is a good player, Farren isn't. Abid lost to fellow former UCLA player Novikov (who beat Peralta in straights) today in 3 sets in the Open event final at Ojai.
 
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SoCal10s

Hall of Fame
Farren showed no sign of injury in his matches at Ojai--he's just not that good. He beat a junior in the 1st rd and barely survived against a teaching pro in the 2nd. Smith realized this and relegated him to the Open event. He wouldn't have allowed Farren to play at all with an injury. Crystal played the Open as well, but got the call in dubs vs. UCLA. Farren got killed by Peralta, period. It was embarrassing, he was completely outclassed. You have a crush on him don't you?


maybe you are right about Farren, I just checked his win/lost college records and he hasn't had a good win yet ...but I saw him in a soft cast on his foot a couple months ago,so given the benefit of doubt, he's still not 100%

maybe he will or maybe he won't come around for NCAA
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
^^he was moving fine, sliding on the hard courts, no calling the trainer, just remember--there's a difference between a reason and an excuse.
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
Nothing, I just call them as I see them. I wasn't impressed when I saw him lose to Brymer at Westwood, and was certainly not impressed with what I saw at Ojai. You're the one with the crush who keeps trying to puff him up. I'll leave you to gush on...
 
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SoCal10s

Hall of Fame
what say you of Peter Smith ?

I'm USC fan but I really like what Billy Martin is doing... he's recruiting American homegrown and getting the job done..
 

SoCal10s

Hall of Fame
I'm surprised Peter Smith kept putting Farren at 4 even though he kept losing matches at that position

that's their weak spot for USC .. no one seems to be able to win consistently at #4 .. that's why I like to see Wang at #3 ... Quiroz play and win at #4 ... Max V..at #5 ...and E. Johnson at #6.. Yannick at #1 ... and Ray at #2...

1.Yannick Hanfmann
2.Ray Sarmiento
3.Jonny Wang
4.Roberto Quiroz
5.Max de Vroome
6.Eric Johnson


close to ranking order too .no Farren because I think he's still not 100% to play singles ..
 
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JW10S

Hall of Fame
.no Farren because I think he's still not 100% to play singles ..
Then why is he entered in the Palos Verdes Open tournament this week? Smith wouldn't let him play hurt. Quiroz is also entered as well. Draws not out yet. You should go cheer him on...
 
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Hmmmmm

Rookie
what say you of Peter Smith ?

I'm USC fan but I really like what Billy Martin is doing... he's recruiting American homegrown and getting the job done..

Jeez, one year removed from being only one of three coaches to win four consecutive ncaa's and the guy suddenly doesn't know how to coach and set a lineup?
 

10sfreakky

New User
Nothing against Smith but he did have Nguyen and Johnson during that 4 year period, they've only lost twice combined at the NCAA tournament....
 

10sfreakky

New User
that's their weak spot for USC .. no one seems to be able to win consistently at #4 .. that's why I like to see Wang at #3 ... Quiroz play and win at #4 ... Max V..at #5 ...and E. Johnson at #6.. Yannick at #1 ... and Ray at #2...

1.Yannick Hanfmann
2.Ray Sarmiento
3.Jonny Wang
4.Roberto Quiroz
5.Max de Vroome
6.Eric Johnson


close to ranking order too .no Farren because I think he's still not 100% to play singles ..

Any idea why Wang's not playing?
 
that's their weak spot for USC .. no one seems to be able to win consistently at #4 .. that's why I like to see Wang at #3 ... Quiroz play and win at #4 ... Max V..at #5 ...and E. Johnson at #6.. Yannick at #1 ... and Ray at #2...

1.Yannick Hanfmann
2.Ray Sarmiento
3.Jonny Wang
4.Roberto Quiroz
5.Max de Vroome
6.Eric Johnson


close to ranking order too .no Farren because I think he's still not 100% to play singles ..

You've replaced your problems at 4 with problems at 3 though. The question is who can win more. Wang at 3 or De Vroome at 4.
 

10sfreakky

New User
I've noticed that throughout the years Smith has done his lineups in a very straight up way as opposed to Billy Martin. Back in 2012 when UCLA beat USC at USC, Thompson was bumped up to 1 because Martin knew that Stevie J was gonna beat anyone, however this allowed Nick Meister to play Sarmiento who he beat.
 

10sfreakky

New User
I'm surprised Kris Kwinta, the current assistant at USC who use to assist at UCLA hasn't influenced Smith's decision to mix up the lineup
 

SoCal10s

Hall of Fame
I've noticed that throughout the years Smith has done his lineups in a very straight up way as opposed to Billy Martin. Back in 2012 when UCLA beat USC at USC, Thompson was bumped up to 1 because Martin knew that Stevie J was gonna beat anyone, however this allowed Nick Meister to play Sarmiento who he beat.

exactly and how did Clay somehow play #5 last year and now back at #1/#2.. this year plus how he used Novikov at the #1 spot...that's why I said what I said about Billy Martin.. what he did was a masterpiece ...

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Hmmmmm

Rookie
I'm surprised Kris Kwinta, the current assistant at USC who use to assist at UCLA hasn't influenced Smith's decision to mix up the lineup

So let me get this straight, a college coach who's been in the business for over 25 years, won four consecutive championships suddenly slaps his forehead and says, "Now why didn't I think about that?!" when Kwinta tells him what Billy Martin was doing with his lineup. Please.

And to attribute his championships solely to Johnson and Nguyen is really too silly. The first year Nguyen played six, Johnson two and the team was seeded 8. From the round of sixteen on Johnson went 2-1 with one unfinished, Nguyen 2-0 with two unfinished. Looks like to me somebody else on the team was winning points. Second championship they were seeded five. Johnson picked up one point with three unfinished from the #2 position, while Nguyen picked up four from the four slot. In the championship match they beat Tennessee who were really loaded that year 4-2. Again, somebody else is winning points.

Winning championships isn't easy, just ask Boland how many he won when he was the #1 seed. And if Puget hadn't touched the net last year, it would be zero.
 

10sfreakky

New User
So let me get this straight, a college coach who's been in the business for over 25 years, won four consecutive championships suddenly slaps his forehead and says, "Now why didn't I think about that?!" when Kwinta tells him what Billy Martin was doing with his lineup. Please.

And to attribute his championships solely to Johnson and Nguyen is really too silly. The first year Nguyen played six, Johnson two and the team was seeded 8. From the round of sixteen on Johnson went 2-1 with one unfinished, Nguyen 2-0 with two unfinished. Looks like to me somebody else on the team was winning points. Second championship they were seeded five. Johnson picked up one point with three unfinished from the #2 position, while Nguyen picked up four from the four slot. In the championship match they beat Tennessee who were really loaded that year 4-2. Again, somebody else is winning points.

Winning championships isn't easy, just ask Boland how many he won when he was the #1 seed. And if Puget hadn't touched the net last year, it would be zero.

Opps I forgot to mention they had Robert Farah who's top 40 in doubles at the moment and was top 200 in singles on the atp tour
 

ClarkC

Hall of Fame
Opps I forgot to mention they had Robert Farah who's top 40 in doubles at the moment and was top 200 in singles on the atp tour

By the way, oops is not spelled opps. We can add this to the list of words too difficult for today's college grads to spell, along with lose. Thank you, American public schools.
 

andfor

Legend
Wow...that says a lot about this sport. And it ain't good.

Why? There's only 6 singles spots, sometimes a 7th or 8th guy starts as a doubles only player. It's not like basketball or football where they sub in. Depending on the school and quality of the player, sometimes a 7 or 8 guy who won't see the court at a top 25 school will play much higher at a lower or non-ranked school. If a kid wants to play and get his education, why go through all the rigors of practice to never or rarely play a match?
 
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