2023 Wimbledon R2: Novak Djokovic vs. Jordan Thompson

Who wins?


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ibbi

G.O.A.T.
This match will get on and get off tomorrow, and the potential third round opponent for whoever wins (tough call) could still be in the first round.
 

L4S10s

Professional
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Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
Fun fact: Jordan Thompson has played the most grass matches of any player (either ATP or WTA) in 2023 - 14 - including a final in Hertogenbosch.

He has a good serve and likes to slice the BH a lot, he’s (as much as it is possible these days) a classically styled Aussie grass player.

I quite like this as a 2nd round matchup, he won’t just roll over for Djokovic.
 

L4S10s

Professional
Fun fact: Jordan Thompson has played the most grass matches of any player (either ATP or WTA) in 2023 - 14 - including a final in Hertogenbosch.

He has a good serve and likes to slice the BH a lot, he’s (as much as it is possible these days) a classically styled Aussie grass player.

I quite like this as a 2nd round matchup, he won’t just roll over for Djokovic.

Nice, that's a good 7-6, 6-3, 6-4 match right there
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
Damn this is a hell of an SnV performance from Thompson, as I predicted.

He’s channeling Peak Rafter.

Don’t know why they gave up on SnV. Djokovic is clearly flummoxed.
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
Jordan may get routined, but his playing style on grass is still more entertaining to watch for me than 95% of player's on Tour. A lost art of S&V, indeed.
I wonder how Djokovic could handle an actual SnVer like Rafter. He dismantled Thompson’s serve in that one game but JT also duffed a couple easy volleys too, before that Thompson was actually causing him some problems, playing good attacking stuff.

And obviously this is taking place with poly strings and the surest footing you’ll ever see on grass.
 
I wonder how Djokovic could handle an actual SnVer like Rafter. He dismantled Thompson’s serve in that one game but JT also duffed a couple easy volleys too, before that Thompson was actually causing him some problems, playing good attacking stuff.

And obviously this is taking place with poly strings and the surest footing you’ll ever see on grass.


What was that year he played Zverev indoors and all Zverev did was attack him at the net and got him all out of sorts. I think Djoker would have problems with Rafter cause djoker doesn't like people screwing with his rhythm. Rafter was a master at messing with your rhythm with his constant attack
 

joekapa

Legend
I wonder how Djokovic could handle an actual SnVer like Rafter. He dismantled Thompson’s serve in that one game but JT also duffed a couple easy volleys too, before that Thompson was actually causing him some problems, playing good attacking stuff.

And obviously this is taking place with poly strings and the surest footing you’ll ever see on grass.
He would of sent Rather into the deep forests of Queensland.
 

Milanez82

Hall of Fame
Jordan may get routined, but his playing style on grass is still more entertaining to watch for me than 95% of players on Tour. A lost art of S&V, indeed.
Its entertaining when its one among the many that player other style .
When every single player played it and when 99% of a match you could hardly get a decent returning game which is how an average Wimbledon in the 90s looked, then its beyond dull.
 

WeekendTennisHack

Hall of Fame
Fun fact: Jordan Thompson has played the most grass matches of any player (either ATP or WTA) in 2023 - 14 - including a final in Hertogenbosch.

He has a good serve and likes to slice the BH a lot, he’s (as much as it is possible these days) a classically styled Aussie grass player.

I quite like this as a 2nd round matchup, he won’t just roll over for Djokovic.

Again? What's wrong with you?
 
the only way to beat djokovic is big serving and net rush and chip and charge. I don’t know where these kids get the idea in their head that playing djokovic from the baseline is a winning formula. The only player that could do it was Nadal
 
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Martin J

Hall of Fame
I wonder how Djokovic could handle an actual SnVer like Rafter. He dismantled Thompson’s serve in that one game but JT also duffed a couple easy volleys too, before that Thompson was actually causing him some problems, playing good attacking stuff.

And obviously this is taking place with poly strings and the surest footing you’ll ever see on grass.
I'm with Sampras - Bruguera here, Novak tends to get frustrated when the things are out of his control, more than Nadal or Fed. A net charger with a big serve (not someone like Henman, for example) would challenge his patience for sure and force him to hit passing shots more than he's used to. The problem is that those guys would continue to approach the net even if they get passed 10 times in a row, which isn't the case with anyone today, they simply aren't as confident in their volleying skills and they knew how to close/cover the net, which is a very underrated skill these days.

Though he would pressure them a lot with his own superb return, but on grass it's much tougher to be as efficient as on, let's say, medium-fast hc. I also think that Sampras, with the power around his serve and forehand, great slice and superb net game, would be a nightmare match-up for Novak on grass.
 

Martin J

Hall of Fame
Its entertaining when its one among the many that player other style .
When every single player played it and when 99% of a match you could hardly get a decent returning game which is how an average Wimbledon in the 90s looked, then its beyond dull.
It's dull for you, it's entertaining for me. That's why we need different conditions and brands of tennis, so everyone can enjoy their preferred playing style.
 

Milanez82

Hall of Fame
What was that year he played Zverev indoors and all Zverev did was attack him at the net and got him all out of sorts. I think Djoker would have problems with Rafter cause djoker doesn't like people screwing with his rhythm. Rafter was a master at messing with your rhythm with his constant attack
Realistically with Rafter a career 61.8% 1st serves in, Djokovic would have plenty of chances to pass him at the net.
In the end, all he would need is 1 game each set with solid returns while playing steady behind his serve, since the only way Rafter breaks him is if Djokovic has 2-3 ue in the game.
Agassi zipped Rafter 3-0 Wimb99 and lost 2 tight 5 setters in 00 and 01 and Djokovic is a significantly better grass player then Agassi.
 

Milanez82

Hall of Fame
It's dull for you, it's entertaining for me. That's why we need different conditions and brands of tennis, so everyone can enjoy their preferred playing style.
I agreed that its entertaining at a present time. And too bad there isn't a few more players like Cressy that really force S&V.

But save for masterclass performances like Krajicek vs Sampras in Wimb96 and similar, watching Sampras vs an average S&V player was dull and no wonder Wimbledon changed the courts.
 

joekapa

Legend
It's dull for you, it's entertaining for me. That's why we need different conditions and brands of tennis, so everyone can enjoy their preferred playing style.
I agree with this, but think that the Big 3 have a superior skill set in all aspects to handle any SV onslaught.

They can do it themselves too.
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
I'm with Sampras - Bruguera here, Novak tends to get frustrated when the things are out of his control, more than Nadal or Fed. A net charger with a big serve (not someone like Henman, for example) would challenge his patience for sure and force him to hit passing shots more than he's used to. The problem is that those guys would continue to approach the net even if they get passed 10 times in a row, which isn't the case with anyone today, they simply aren't as confident in their volleying skills and they knew how to close/cover the net, which is a very underrated skill these days.

Though he would pressure them a lot with his own superb return, but on grass it's much tougher to be as efficient as on, let's say, medium-fast hc. I also think that Sampras, with the power around his serve and forehand, great slice and superb net game, would be a nightmare match-up for Novak on grass.
Totally agree. There’s just not a lot anyone can do against a great serve and a player who immediately comes to net, especially when they are as agile and skilled as a Rafter was.
 

Martin J

Hall of Fame
I agree with this, but think that the Big 3 have a superior skill set in all aspects to handle any SV onslaught.

They can do it themselves too.
Nadal has a losing record against a S&V player at Wimbledon (out of three matches they played), and not the one of Pete's or Becker's caliber, so it's not really as simple I think. My opinion is that the Big 3 have never been really tested against the elite S&V players, on grass in particular (except Fed in his early days on tour), these guys are very competent players, knew how to construct the points and, (again) more importantly, knew how to position themselves at the net and make the passing shots much, much tougher, even with poly strings. That's just my opinion based on watching the players who were trained all their lives to be competent at the net, you don't have that today, coaches have given up on teaching this style (even before the luxilon strings arrived on the scene).
 
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