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You should try the '21 if you can, if you are considering switching.
2023 Yonex VCores
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Federerkblade
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Just hit with the 95 agree with @SupahMan5000 and his review
strings feel too tight at 51/49.5
there are two factors I don’t think I’m good enough for this frame
alongside I felt there was something missing in thr throat area …
i can play points and games with this frame but something is missing I want to feel it has more beef when I pick it up . Even with lots of of lead at 2 and 10 it still feels whippy and I want to reduce that feeling . Not sure yellow ptp is right string for frame ,,
gut poly May work very well as well as a more elastic springy string ..
It feels like a frame with the right set up could be amazing , I just don’t know what that set up quite is
string wise or tension and lead wise
Giron I think uses gut poly which I think would work well ..
strings feel too tight at 51/49.5
there are two factors I don’t think I’m good enough for this frame
alongside I felt there was something missing in thr throat area …
i can play points and games with this frame but something is missing I want to feel it has more beef when I pick it up . Even with lots of of lead at 2 and 10 it still feels whippy and I want to reduce that feeling . Not sure yellow ptp is right string for frame ,,
gut poly May work very well as well as a more elastic springy string ..
It feels like a frame with the right set up could be amazing , I just don’t know what that set up quite is
string wise or tension and lead wise
Giron I think uses gut poly which I think would work well ..
SupahMan5000
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yes in stock form def very very whippy and that might be a great thing for some but not for me personally. I personally just dont like PTP in general as much as others but I think the crisper Rev just works better in such a soft feeling racket
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Federerkblade
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The xi 98 was quote string sensitive until I found ptp
I do wonder whether the blue Ptp might be better in the 95 or an Alu type string ?
I do wonder whether the blue Ptp might be better in the 95 or an Alu type string ?
Federerkblade
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I had 6 inches of lead on and stability was good
it may be a totally different stick at lower tension and if I can somehow get it to feel like it had weight in the throat area
Serves were decent pin point
didn’t try too many kick
I think the frame could be a beast with the right set up
the tennishq Pro on you tube who travels with Giron need to see his thoughts
what does he string his 21 version with ?
did you feel @SupahMan5000 there was something missing in the throat area
Federerkblade
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The other couple of things I would add are these
I remember watching Giron (hope that’s his name ) against Medvedev and his backhands two hander was just not much on it . It felt like that the 95 today,
i don’t expect it to be like the 100 but a teeny bit of the 100 on the 95 and less whippy would have made it really nice .
I did really well with the 95 just with rallying on basline practice and it reminded me what the Japanese reviewers said originally . The 95 is great to practice with /rally wiyh but for matches they would use the 98 …
I also used the 100 and cut down some of the lead that was reaching 11 and 1 pm . That reduced the power on the 100 and it felt better again ..
it feels like it’s worth having a racquet like the 95 in your bag to push yourself ,it’s also about getting the set up right and tension . I may add more lead in the throat and beef it up
it also reminded me what Matt said who reviewed the frame it’s nice but just feels it needs something extra , I just don’t know what ..
it also feels like a great platform frame ..
I remember watching Giron (hope that’s his name ) against Medvedev and his backhands two hander was just not much on it . It felt like that the 95 today,
i don’t expect it to be like the 100 but a teeny bit of the 100 on the 95 and less whippy would have made it really nice .
I did really well with the 95 just with rallying on basline practice and it reminded me what the Japanese reviewers said originally . The 95 is great to practice with /rally wiyh but for matches they would use the 98 …
I also used the 100 and cut down some of the lead that was reaching 11 and 1 pm . That reduced the power on the 100 and it felt better again ..
it feels like it’s worth having a racquet like the 95 in your bag to push yourself ,it’s also about getting the set up right and tension . I may add more lead in the throat and beef it up
it also reminded me what Matt said who reviewed the frame it’s nice but just feels it needs something extra , I just don’t know what ..
it also feels like a great platform frame ..
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Federerkblade
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Never used hesd lynx tour , looks like a black string in his house tube review of the 95, ?
58 wow ..
iv just been watching him play with it, I think I’m going to go much lower tension wise and less it up more
I wonder what it would be like at 340 swingweight and a gut poly set up
I did not feel any pocketing on the string bed today which didn’t help
58 wow ..
iv just been watching him play with it, I think I’m going to go much lower tension wise and less it up more
I wonder what it would be like at 340 swingweight and a gut poly set up
I did not feel any pocketing on the string bed today which didn’t help
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Idk if im skilled enough to detect where the flex is coming from spceifically i just have one overall feel
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2nd full outing with 2023 VC100:
One of the guys in our doubles group needed a racket, so I let him use my VC100.
Usually we get some free points from his DF's, volleys and groundstrokes UE because he overhits.
But he made very few errors and defended well against good shots.
I asked him what he thought about the VC100 and he LOVED it.
He didn't have to overswing, just let the racket do its thing and the power, spin and placement are all there.
That's the last time I let him borrow my VC100 against me.
My groundstrokes, ROS along with slice and kick serves are completely dialed in with VC100.
I'm getting more familiar with touch shots and overheads.
One more month with this racket, I think I will be completely comfortable with all aspects of the doubles game.
The thing that amazes me the most is that I can get easy power and spin without any wrist/elbow/shoulder pain.
I am using VC100 with VS gut/poly tour pro and Supergrap.
My arm is extremely sensitive so I had to use very arm friendly rackets such as Clash, Microgel Radical and Pro Kennex.
Those rackets were missing power, spin and/or feel. VC100 is giving me the the power, spin and feel while being not unkind to my sensitive arm.
One of the guys in our doubles group needed a racket, so I let him use my VC100.
Usually we get some free points from his DF's, volleys and groundstrokes UE because he overhits.
But he made very few errors and defended well against good shots.
I asked him what he thought about the VC100 and he LOVED it.
He didn't have to overswing, just let the racket do its thing and the power, spin and placement are all there.
That's the last time I let him borrow my VC100 against me.
My groundstrokes, ROS along with slice and kick serves are completely dialed in with VC100.
I'm getting more familiar with touch shots and overheads.
One more month with this racket, I think I will be completely comfortable with all aspects of the doubles game.
The thing that amazes me the most is that I can get easy power and spin without any wrist/elbow/shoulder pain.
I am using VC100 with VS gut/poly tour pro and Supergrap.
My arm is extremely sensitive so I had to use very arm friendly rackets such as Clash, Microgel Radical and Pro Kennex.
Those rackets were missing power, spin and/or feel. VC100 is giving me the the power, spin and feel while being not unkind to my sensitive arm.
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Federerkblade
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your review matches my experince although I’m not using gut
I’d suspect you’d would get the pocketing feel somewhere between 45 and 48 pounds (with all poly setups). Would get that feeling first before messing with throat flex.
I do think you should give the 98 a test.
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That sounds right by TW spec pattern, oddly two other sites show the pattern as mains skipping 8H / 8T in the written specs, yet the pics on their sites clearly show it strung exactly as you’ve stated, skip 7/9 T, 8H.
Federerkblade
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you are right although there is plenty of pocketing witj the 100 I reported back last week at 56 lbs
the strings are very tight on the 95 right now I can hardly move the mains with my fingers so no pocketing will be achieved
I do have one more frame coming Friday string slightly lower and also it will be a week since It’s string at 49 /47
so let’s see if that’s any different
It May be ptp yellow is too low powered for me for this this frame
And another string May react better at lower tensions
maybe the blue ptp … ?
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i have no idea what that means hence why I was suggesting a pic
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nevin23liauw
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Anyone’s tried vcore 98 with kirschbaum max power 1.25?
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Last night I mentioned natural gut set up would be interesting in the v core 95 and now watching Karue tennis ha latest video and he’s talking about gut in the v core 95 I think he’s switched to gut
yes gut crosses
can’t afford to do gut crosses but gut mains would be interesting
is Wilson gut still the best ? I know babolat used to be but they changed the formula a while ago
any recommendation on gut ? Which brand ?
Cross would prob be Alu soft .. seems to last a long time
yes gut crosses
can’t afford to do gut crosses but gut mains would be interesting
is Wilson gut still the best ? I know babolat used to be but they changed the formula a while ago
any recommendation on gut ? Which brand ?
Cross would prob be Alu soft .. seems to last a long time
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No sadly not I never went into the realms of figuring out grommets and stringing
testing strings and stringing two different things
would have made sense to learn to string m
Thank you will go with VS Touch vs prob Alu power soft cross , not sure what else would be suitable as a cross prob needs to be a stiffer crisper string
Alu standard is good but soft lasts so much longer
many idea what tension I should try bearing in mind it has a lot of lead on ?
don’t want to go too high, 51/48 ? Or even lower
testing strings and stringing two different things
would have made sense to learn to string m
Thank you will go with VS Touch vs prob Alu power soft cross , not sure what else would be suitable as a cross prob needs to be a stiffer crisper string
Alu standard is good but soft lasts so much longer
many idea what tension I should try bearing in mind it has a lot of lead on ?
don’t want to go too high, 51/48 ? Or even lower
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Also I’m not finding any threads for the v core 21 and v core 18 where anyone went gut poly ..
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I personally found VS Gut mains/poly crosses too springy even at 60+ lbs but Luxilon was more controlled. If I ever went back to using gut/poly I'd use Luxilon gut mains for extra control. I would use VS Touch if I did a poly main/gut cross set up.
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What’s your set up
Right now I'm using poly tour pro 1.20 gauge @ 54 lbs in the Ezone 98 2022. It's about as soft as a gut/poly set-up and lasts 12-14 hours before going dead. $5 for a re-string. Can't beat it...
Federerkblade
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Sounds great so is that your initial set up for the v core 95 and testing it stock today/tonight ?
Yep, couldn't agree more.
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i think there is a thread on how Wilson Gut is no longer the same. VS I believe is still tip top shape tho
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Lux Gut has a firmness to it that might resemble closer to what you’re used to
Federerkblade
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Oh wow we have two different schools of thought here
Lux
and Vs
I guess the only way to find out is to try both
what do you suggest tension wise for the gut mains ?
For each lux and VS ?
And Alu soft is appropriate as a cross what tension ?
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and Vs
I guess the only way to find out is to try both
what do you suggest tension wise for the gut mains ?
For each lux and VS ?
And Alu soft is appropriate as a cross what tension ?
Federerkblade
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Thanks tension please as well ? Lux gut I guess does not resemble Wilson gut either
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from what I remember Wilson Gut does not play as soft and plush as it used to and might even be similar to Lux gut in its firmness. I am not an expert however I used to use VS when it wasn't $50 a pack.
I think in the 95 you could beenfit from still low range but higher than you would full Poly. I string full poly at 45 lbs in the 95. I think 48-50 is what i would do
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Seperately I have seen a few ppl report enjoying gut as a cross , I have also done that years ago but it’s a waste of gut and you have to be super rich to be doing gut in cross . …
SupahMan5000
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why is this any different from using it as a main? i find it break even faster in a main
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reason is you can get the feeling of a gut cross elsewhere in my opinion cheaper or close to but gut main not possible
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That did not picture well there’s also 3 inches of lead at 12 now to try to make it feel less whippy and more lead in throat
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my personal opinion is as a cross, multi just doesnt do the job if you’re after the gut feeling. And i just personally never liked gut as a main it changed the launch angle in a way that I never adjusted to
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i agree it can take some adjustment and tension changing this is the issue the cost of trying to find the Right set up with it tension wise etc and spin
unless you spend a bit of money and string 4 racquets up it’s hard to find the right set up and dismiss it
I found in the past the playability can last ages wiyh gut Poly , gut main if the right set up is found
