Dimitrov vs. Roddick. If Andy Roddick had been born about a decade later, would he realistically achieve more than Dimitrov in the Big 3 era?

[The Sinner]

It's actually better if he is born in 1991 as his best years on grass (2004 and 2009) coincide with 2013 (bad match by Djokovic) and 2018 (tired Djokovic after Nadal semi).

I won’t argue that a second slam (again, being Wimby) is quite possible.

 

[fedfan24]

I won’t argue that a second slam (again, being Wimby) is quite possible.

Yeah the guy lost 3 Wimbledon finals and a semi to Fed. Replace prime Federer with 13/16 Murray, 14/18/19 Djokovic and he could nab 1-2.

 

[Pencak]

Why isn't this moved to former pro ?

 

[Razer]

2009 Roddick will win 2019 Wimbledon
2006 Roddick could reach the F at USO 2016, he will have some shot at it.
2007 Roddick could again have some shot at 2017 US Open, it is not like that was a tough slam won by Nadal, Roddick probably will win that.

2013W ....2013USO, 2014W all might not be possible for Roddick to win ... Roddick's 2004 form could win him in 2013 but in 2014 Federer and Djokovic will neutralize him, so bad luck.

Not to mention Roddick would now have motivation to play into the 2020s decade too since he won't be seeing peak Big 3 in the Semis blocking him like he did in 2011 which forced him to retire in 2012.

1-2 slams he wins somehow. He is not a weak cuck like Medvedev to surrender 2 sets leads.

 

[Olli Jokinen]

Wrong logic. Murray won because of the time he played.

 

[BauerAlmeida]

It depends on how much of a gifting mood Djokovic is in.

Yeah, I mean, regardless of the H2H Djokovic is a much better player and should beat him most of the time but he lost at a slam to Nishikori so he can lose to Roddick once too.

I still think Roddick will win one slam, most likely Wimby though. Would do better than Tsonga or Berdy, but not as well as Wawa.

This pretty much, yeah

 

[ghostofMecir]

Federer played meddy only 3 times before the latter rose to dominance. Whatever you are saying is just imagination.

Murray would not like facing meddy. He is just as dogged as Murray and would be a major thorn in Murray's side especially on hc and clay.

Have you seen Medvedev’s return position? Federer would absolute destroy him on any HC and Medvedev has 0 chance on clay or grass vs anyone resembling an elite baseliner, especially not the guy with arguably the best FH of all time.

Federer is such a bad match up for him, jesus it would get pretty ugly. His best hope is to serve ridiculously high % 1st serve, like 80%+ and hope to nick a tiebreaker or hope Fed has a terrible day at the office. Maybe he could nick a win over 08 Monererer.

Medvedev would get better, but his basic game was the same when he played Ancienterer, but showed very little signs that he could do anything vs. him, especially return Federer’s first serve as he could not read it at all and his preferred return position did him zero favors.

Medvedev vs. Federer (all on Med’s favorite surface vs. an Old Man)
0-3, .70 dominance ratio, 44.3% of total points won, 68.8% hold percentage, 9.1% break percentage, 16.1% of 1st serve return points won

Roddick vs. Federer
3-21, .73 dominance ratio, 45.8% of total points won, 78.3% hold percentage, 6.8% break percentage, 19.1% of 1st serve return points won.

In 2018, Meddy had a world-class BH and very good return. In their first match in Shanghai (medium fast court), Med was coming off of wins in Winston-Salem and Tokyo (a medium fast court) where he destroyed Raonic and Shapo, and then obliterated Kei in the final with one of 2018’s most dominant Finals’ wins, i.e., a 3.69 dominance ratio, losing just a few points on serve vs. a great return player playing in Japan. Against Federer, he plays well in longer rallies against the old man but cannot do anything returning serve. Federer wins, 1.26 dominance ratio, wins 82% of first serve points.

Then they meet in Basel (a medium fast court) a few weeks later. Federer saw his game and then dissected it. Federer wins, 1.52 dominance ratio, 87% of first serve points won.

Then they meet in Miami (slow hard court) and Med is top 15 and a top 10 hard court ELOer, and Med gets absolutely embarrassed by an even older Federer. Med was close to his peak return game in 2019. Federer wins, 1.71 dominance ratio, 85% of first serve points won.

There is NOTHING to suggest that Med would do anything of note against Peakerer/Primerer. For a player with a good return, he put in terrible performances against the Fed serve, something Roddick also did with a much weaker return.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Medvedev would get better, but his basic game was the same when he played Ancienterer, but showed very little signs that he could do anything vs. him, especially return Federer’s first serve as he could not read it at all and his preferred return position did him zero favors.

Medvedev vs. Federer (all on Med’s favorite surface vs. an Old Man)
0-3, .70 dominance ratio, 44.3% of total points won, 68.8% hold percentage, 9.1% break percentage, 16.1% of 1st serve return points won

Roddick vs. Federer
3-21, .73 dominance ratio, 45.8% of total points won, 78.3% hold percentage, 6.8% break percentage, 19.1% of 1st serve return points won.

In 2018, Meddy had a world-class BH and very good return. In their first match in Shanghai (medium fast court), Med was coming off of wins in Winston-Salem and Tokyo (a medium fast court) where he destroyed Raonic and Shapo, and then obliterated Kei in the final with one of 2018’s most dominant Finals’ wins, i.e., a 3.69 dominance ratio, losing just a few points on serve vs. a great return player playing in Japan. Against Federer, he plays well in longer rallies against the old man but cannot do anything returning serve. Federer wins, 1.26 dominance ratio, wins 82% of first serve points.

Then they meet in Basel (a medium fast court) a few weeks later. Federer saw his game and then dissected it. Federer wins, 1.52 dominance ratio, 87% of first serve points won.

Then they meet in Miami (slow hard court) and Med is top 15 and a top 10 hard court ELOer, and Med gets absolutely embarrassed by an even older Federer. Med was close to his peak return game in 2019. Federer wins, 1.71 dominance ratio, 85% of first serve points won.

There is NOTHING to suggest that Med would do anything of note against Peakerer/Primerer. For a player with a good return, he put in terrible performances against the Fed serve, something Roddick also did with a much weaker return.

Bs

All this is speculation.

All these results came before Medvedev became a top player. You can take sinner from 2 years ago and make same asinine speculations as here.

 

[Holmes]

First of all, don't lump Dimitrov in with Berdych and Tsonga. Two different tiers of players.

Yes. Berdych and Tsonga are used to bolster Feddy's credentials, Dimitrov is not.

 

[ghostofMecir]

Bs

All this is speculation.

All these results came before Medvedev became a top player. You can take sinner from 2 years ago and make same asinine speculations as here.

Another terrible post as per usual. People don’t turn things around against Federer.

A) you give him problems from the very beginning, e.g., only really Nadal
B) you give him problems after initially struggling as a very young player, e.g., Novak
C) you are successful against him and then he turns it around on you (many examples).

Meddy’s game is the same as it was in 2019 but just slightly better in each area. He got beaten badly by a 38 year WHILE being top 15-20 and not some 18 year old. A better version of Meddy against a peak/prime Federer would still get beaten badly. He wouldn’t ever be able to return the Fed serve AND Federer wouldn’t give him pace and slice him until he offers up a puff ball that the Fed FH would annihilate. Old man Fed with the new racket and much worse FH did this.

If you actually watched the sport (let alone play it—we all know you’ve never touched a racket), and not rely on Wiki/TA/UTS, you might actually understand.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Another terrible post as per usual. People don’t turn things around against Federer.

A) you give him problems from the very beginning, e.g., only really Nadal
B) you give him problems after initially struggling as a very young player, e.g., Novak
C) you are successful against him and then he turns it around on you (many examples).

Meddy’s game is the same as it was in 2019 but just slightly better in each area. He got beaten badly by a 38 year WHILE being top 15-20 and not some 18 year old. A better version of Meddy against a peak/prime Federer would still get beaten badly. He wouldn’t ever be able to return the Fed serve AND Federer wouldn’t give him pace and slice him until he offers up a puff ball that the Fed FH would annihilate. Old man Fed with the new racket and much worse FH did this.

If you actually watched the sport (let alone play it—we all know you’ve never touched a racket), and not rely on Wiki/TA/UTS, you might actually understand.

Don't try to shame me
I have played tennis.

Go on ignore list.

 

[Martin J]

Dimitrov never possessed the weapons to dispatch his opponent the way Roddick could with this serve and FH combo, there was a brutal power coming off his racquet and dealing with it wasn't an easy job.

That's why A-Rod didn't need his draw to completely fall apart in order to win his biggest title, where Dimi's case is quite the opposite. Rod's biggest obstacle by far was the best version of Roger Federer, for Dimi...there are literally 20 players you could totally see him losing to even during his best days. Though he has a discipline of a good grinder and is a nice shotmaker, I liked his 2014 season and particularly his performances at the AO/Wimbledon, but he couldn't stay clutch on big points vs Nadalovic (another advantage to Rod, he was mentally stronger).

 

[ghostofMecir]

Don't try to shame me
I have played tennis.

Go on ignore list.

Not a single one of your posts has ever shown any type of insight at all about how the game is played. Zero surprise there though though.

 

[chjtennis]

Roddick pushed prime Federer very hard at Wimbledon and a few other occasions. Peak Roddick certainly would've achieved more.

 

[abmk]

Yeah the guy lost 3 Wimbledon finals and a semi to Fed. Replace prime Federer with 13/16 Murray, 14/18/19 Djokovic and he could nab 1-2.

Roddick would grab a USO as well.
Min 2 slams in this scenario.

 

[Holmes]

Roddick pushed prime Federer very hard at Wimbledon and a few other occasions. Peak Roddick certainly would've achieved more.

2009 Roddick was his best ever level - and yes, I prayed at the Shrine o' Feddy for forgiveness at this blasphemy to his 2004 self before writing this statement. Roddick at that level and fitness could likely compete in today's game and maintain a top 10 ranking throughout the 2010s.