Donald Young refused Nadal's offer!!

babbette

Legend
Donald young turned down the chance to practice with the nadals n Mallorca for 3 weeks!!! IDIOT!!!:shock:

From a blog-

At one point during NBC’s broadcast of the match between Rafael Nadal and Fernando Verdasco, John McEnroe casually stated that Donald Young had been invited by the Nadal family to come and work with them for three weeks in Mallorca. Now I’m sure many tennis parents heard that and immediately began emailing the family saying their precious was the best thing since sliced bread and would gladly take them up on the offer the Young camp refused. That’s right, they refused.

So when the Nadal family made their offer to the Young camp imagine the alarm bells that went off in the United States. One of their own, recently exposed as being used and abused by the powers that be of U.S. tennis and who despite all that happened is now making his way up the rankings, go to Spain?! It would be the straw that broke the camels back, the exposure of the United States tennis system as a teetering house of cards. It could not, and would not happen. And it didn’t.

So will Donald Young’s potential be sacrificed on the altar of mindless ball bashing? Will he become like the generation that is now moving into the later years of their careers, unable to compete in Europe or South America? That remains to be seen. I should mention in passing that Young arrived in Europe in time for The French Open and played maybe one warm up event which he crashed out of early. Needless to say he was out of the French and on his way to his next event early as well.


wonder why they refused.:confused:
 

Teyko

Banned
I am sure if the offer was extended by Nadal's family that there was certainly a good reason for the refusal. Is there a link to the blog or something of the sorts?
 

BeHappy

Hall of Fame
mayeb he didn't want Nadal getting a handle on his game before they played competetively.He doesn't have a lot of power and a lot of his games effectiveness is based on how unused opponents are to his style of play.
 

tfm1973

Semi-Pro
#297 on the list of reasons why Donald Young will never be a Top 50 tennis player.....

or maybe he was waiting for a better offer?

"sorry rafa. you're only #2 in the world with 3 grand slam trophies. i'm hoping fed's people call my people."
 

kalika

Semi-Pro
mayeb he didn't want Nadal getting a handle on his game before they played competetively.He doesn't have a lot of power and a lot of his games effectiveness is based on how unused opponents are to his style of play.

Yeah, but this was a couple of years ago, when Young was still playing juniors pretty much. You would think any junior would jump at the chance to train with a pro like Nadal. Even some of the lower ranked pros would as well.
 

flyer

Hall of Fame
no really sure about that cause nadal is only one player, i would think the benefit of becoming better against every other player would out way that...and pros need to practice together otherwise they would never get any good practice
 

babbette

Legend
No, I just opened it this morning. (02/06/08 ) Here is the blog- A regular writer with updates on tennis.
http://wwwsavannahsworld.blogspot.com/

I too hope there's more than this blog to verify this. I want to know his reasons. I would accept without second thought, for many reasons.:twisted:
 

JRstriker12

Hall of Fame
Kind of hard to say Young Crashed out of the FO - didn't he go down to Robby Ginepri - who had a good run this FO?
 

Phil

Hall of Fame
I am sure if the offer was extended by Nadal's family that there was certainly a good reason for the refusal. Is there a link to the blog or something of the sorts?
What makes you "sure" of that? People-especially tennis parents, who can be complete numbskulls (many examples)-don't always do what's in the best interests of their kids.
 

WildVolley

Legend
I heard this very comment watching Nadal versus Verdasco, but I didn't catch which player McEnroe was talking about.

If this is a true story, it was a very bad decision for Young to turn Nadal down. The Spaniards are training the best clay court players in the world.
 

soyizgood

G.O.A.T.
Donald Young rejected an offer by James Blake to spend time and get advice from him. So this would not surprise me at all. He is too arrogant and has too much of an ego at this point. If I was an up and coming pro, I'd GLADLY seek time with those guys.
 

cmb

Semi-Pro
I dont like to talk bad about pros, but DY has some issues. His people regularly calls Georgia Tech asking if there is someone to practice with, sets up a practice. and then calls back and cancels just before the time to practice.

Its funny, he thinks hes too good to have to schedule anything. I hope he has fun practicing with whoever he can get to practice in ATL, because the GT guys are a good option.

Anyway all americans should go to europe to practice, it will help the hardcourt game heaps.

Americans are too arrogant, and the USTA sucks.
 
mayeb he didn't want Nadal getting a handle on his game before they played competetively.He doesn't have a lot of power and a lot of his games effectiveness is based on how unused opponents are to his style of play.

Good grief. Nadal would worry about Young's game? This is ridiculous.
 

TennezSport

Hall of Fame
According to RSI...........

According to RSI mag (June 08; pg 18 ), Young just signed a deal to train at Bollettieri's academy with Ricardo Acuna and Bollettieri directly. This is probably why he refused Nadal's offer as other contractual deals were already on the table.

TennezSport :cool:
 

samster

Hall of Fame
According to RSI mag (June 08; pg 18 ), Young just signed a deal to train at Bollettieri's academy with Ricardo Acuna and Bollettieri directly. This is probably why he refused Nadal's offer as other contractual deals were already on the table.

TennezSport :cool:

Oh, okay, real smart move.
 

sillymonkey

Hall of Fame
mayeb he didn't want Nadal getting a handle on his game before they played competetively.He doesn't have a lot of power and a lot of his games effectiveness is based on how unused opponents are to his style of play.

you're joking, right?
 

HoVa

Rookie
what is bolleteri gonna teach him that he doesn't already know?

Bolleteri " hey donald, if you feel a little behind, hit the ball hard. If that doesn't work, hit even harder"
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
mayeb he didn't want Nadal getting a handle on his game before they played competetively.He doesn't have a lot of power and a lot of his games effectiveness is based on how unused opponents are to his style of play.

Yeah he was afraid Nadal might pick up some tips and start winning on clay :)
 

naffi

Rookie
Probably the butt-picking ... :-|
I'm surprised a current pro would even extend that offer. Hope he's not waiting for help from an American or something ...

Donald young turned down the chance to practice with the nadals n Mallorca for 3 weeks!!! IDIOT!!!:shock:

From a blog-






wonder why they refused.:confused:
 

Fedace

Banned
Yeah he was afraid Nadal might pick up some tips and start winning on clay :)

Donald Young's parents kind of act like Williams family parents. only problem is Donald hasn't won anything and i don't think he will win any slams. he lacks power
 

Defcon

Hall of Fame
The arrogance of the Young family (and the USTA to an extent) continues to amaze. I remember when Young hadn't won a single ATP match in a million tries, he was still being hyped by his camp as the next best thing since sliced bread and kept getting wildcards. Who the hell refuses an offer to train with the world #2 ??
 

soyizgood

G.O.A.T.
The arrogance of the Young family (and the USTA to an extent) continues to amaze. I remember when Young hadn't won a single ATP match in a million tries, he was still being hyped by his camp as the next best thing since sliced bread and kept getting wildcards. Who the hell refuses an offer to train with the world #2 ??

I'm with you on that one. Nadal plays as a lefty too, so that would have been a GREAT opportunity to get some pointers and experience.

I'm not impressed at all by Young's play. Seriously, does any part of his game stand out? He looks like he'll be a poor man's Ferrer or Davydenko, if he even gets that far along. I criticize the crop of Gasquet/Monfils/Baghdatis/Murray/Tsonga/etc. but at least those guys have established weapons. And quite a few guys in Young's age group have been able to get further in big tournaments while not begging and whining for wildcards.

If Young is the future of American tennis, we are truly screwed. Man up Donald and get whatever advice, help, experience you can get from the top pros.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
The arrogance of the Young family (and the USTA to an extent) continues to amaze. I remember when Young hadn't won a single ATP match in a million tries, he was still being hyped by his camp as the next best thing since sliced bread and kept getting wildcards.

Yes, but how many other young promising US men are out there? Scoville Jenkins, Odesnik, Oudsema, Isner and Querrey, and Young is probably no worse than the others. Odesnik is already 23 and Oudsema hasn't been heard of much. That is also the reason Vania King gets so much attention - no other hopes on the women's side.
 

Rob_C

Hall of Fame
Donald Young's parents kind of act like Williams family parents. only problem is Donald hasn't won anything and i don't think he will win any slams. he lacks power

I dont think DY's parents act like the Williams' parents at all. U dont see them holding up signs at tournaments, or bringing attn to themselves, or bringing attn to DY, as far as Richard is concerned.

As far as the mom, maybe she's there for moral support, but I seriously doubt she knows much about tennis technique.

DY's dad is rarely present at tournaments, probably running the tennis center.

I'm not sure how well the Mom plays tennis, but the dad played college tennis, which is way more than the Williams parents.

I've never heard of DY's parents making any sort of predictions as far as his future accomplishments.
 

Addi

New User
He's a tool. That's why.
:lol:
maybe it's because DY just didn't want Nadal to learn something from him :lol:

Nadal might have wanted DY as a ball boy while he practised with Moya and others.
10/10

what is bolleteri gonna teach him that he doesn't already know?

Bolleteri " hey donald, if you feel a little behind, hit the ball hard. If that doesn't work, hit even harder"
or maybe something like "you can win againt everyone - you just have to hit hard"

addi
 

naffi

Rookie
His parents remind me of Michelle Wie's dad, who has probably derailed her entire career by making her do too much too soon. Young seems to have settled down a bit, though.

I dont think DY's parents act like the Williams' parents at all. U dont see them holding up signs at tournaments, or bringing attn to themselves, or bringing attn to DY, as far as Richard is concerned.

As far as the mom, maybe she's there for moral support, but I seriously doubt she knows much about tennis technique.

DY's dad is rarely present at tournaments, probably running the tennis center.

I'm not sure how well the Mom plays tennis, but the dad played college tennis, which is way more than the Williams parents.

I've never heard of DY's parents making any sort of predictions as far as his future accomplishments.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Yeah he was afraid Nadal might pick up some tips and start winning on clay :)
That's definitely the most sensible explanation. Look how good Nadal already is, think how formidable he would have become if he had been taking advice from Donald Young!!
 

daddy

Legend
I think you guys overlooked the big picture. Poor Donald was probably somewhere in the middle of his ATP losing streak at the time, another humiliation would not suit him that well. They spared him of having to play someone as good as Rafa fearing he may retire tennis.
 

5263

G.O.A.T.
I dont think DY's parents act like the Williams' parents at all. U dont see them holding up signs at tournaments, or bringing attn to themselves, or bringing attn to DY, as far as Richard is concerned.

As far as the mom, maybe she's there for moral support, but I seriously doubt she knows much about tennis technique.

DY's dad is rarely present at tournaments, probably running the tennis center.

I'm not sure how well the Mom plays tennis, but the dad played college tennis, which is way more than the Williams parents.

I've never heard of DY's parents making any sort of predictions as far as his future accomplishments.

You are mostly right on target with this. The Youngs are super people in all of the many experiences I have had with them. They are friendly and surprisingly warm for people in their situation. Mrs Young is a tennis instructor with a strong tennis background. She is also a very upbeat and positive lady. They run super camps at their tennis center, attended by Jrs from all over the country. They are incredibly helpful to many, many Jr players. I'll check into this rumor and see what it is about and why he didn't go if asked.

I'll be willing to bet that Donald Jr will make the top 50 and that's a tough call even with all his great international wins in the Jrs. because even so, the odds are so against this kind of sucess. He is also a very nice and respectful young man, and maybe just a little shy.
We need more American families like this one, and not just in tennis!
 
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daddy

Legend
He probably couldn't be arsed. I bet Nadals practice is like a military operation.

Uncle Tony : 'Hit 100 forehands with more than 3000rpm of spin within an inch of the baseline, NOW.'

Rafa : 'Cmon Uncle, who'll return even 10 of those ?'

Uncle Tony : '200'

Rafa : ( sigh ) 'Yes sir!'

Bang, bang, bang ...
 

babbette

Legend
Rafa : ( sigh ) 'Yes sir!'

Bang, bang, bang ...

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sorry couldn't resist.
 

msc886

Professional
I don't understand. For a guy so ambitious (wants to win slams (2 of each)) to turn down offers which could make him better than he is today.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Strange decision by Young.I would have though he would have jumped at this opportunity,apparently not.
 

JLyon

Hall of Fame
get the feeling it probably was not his decision since his parents watch over him like a hawk.
 

tangerine

Professional
According to RSI mag (June 08; pg 18 ), Young just signed a deal to train at Bollettieri's academy with Ricardo Acuna and Bollettieri directly. This is probably why he refused Nadal's offer as other contractual deals were already on the table.
This was posted on the first page. Two pages later people are still bashing Young/USTA/Americans, etc. :rolleyes:
 

johnny ballgame

Professional
#297 on the list of reasons why Donald Young will never be a Top 50 tennis player.....

If the story is true, I agree he should have trained with Nadal in Spain.

However, it is very obvious to me that Donald Young will be a top 50 tennis player one day. Probably top 30 or so. He's 18 now and he's not that far away from no. 50.
 

maverick66

Hall of Fame
he turned down jim courier as well. jim wanted to hit early in the morning before he had to go and do announcing for the us open and DY turned him down cause he didnt want to get up. i think it was the first year he got a wc into the event so he was still relatively unknown. so this is nothing new. he turns down quality practice partners all the time for dumb reasons like not wanting to get up in the morning.
 
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