TB was fine honestly, good even. Federer hit 5 winners or forced errors in the first 6 points and they weren't cheap or easy either (tough angled FH, BH winner after 20+ shot rally, unbelievable big D BH winner, and then 2 on his own serve). Not much to do about that besides try to rack up free points on serve.
Think Djoko and Fed in the USO 15 final could be at 8 and 7.5 as well which is a half a rating lower than i had it for both tbh so editing that in.
As a point of reference, look what this same Federer did to Nalbandian in the QF. He absolutely crushed him.
Yeah not a huge difference.
Hewitt hit 39 winners past peak Fed. Not bad for a guy with no weapons (according to some).
It's 2007-2013. 2015-16 Nadal was abysmal, makes 2007/08 Djoko look like the absolute GOAT. Not to mention Fed was just as bad in 2013 and out for most of 2016.Strongest era imo was 2008-2016 which had the most in form big 4 at one time. Djokovic - Nadal tied for 11 slams each but Djokovic destroys him H2H and all other stats in the same time
Don't remember that match can't say.
Don’t think so maybe it was a comment or another thread?
2015-16 makes 2004-05 look like 2008-09 and 2011-12.
Hewitt was very good this one. Most likely his best slam match vs Federer.Hewitt hit 45 winners past Federer in the USO 2005 semi as per official count:
7.5 to 8 for Hewitt and 9 to 9.5 for Federer?No doubt it was.
Marks out of 10 for both?
How on earth did Hewitt hit 45 winners past peak Fed and have a higher winning % on first serve? According to Lew, Hewitt is just another Ferrer.Hewitt hit 45 winners past Federer in the USO 2005 semi as per official count:
I rate the USO 11 SF as a 8.5 for Federer so I think 9 would be fairer for the 05 SF.
That’s Murray of the AO 11 final
Federer also can't beat Kokkinakis of all people.
Damn, in 4 months it will be a decade since Smallville ended
The 2012 RG SF was unimpressive from both players and nothing comparable to their match from the previous year.At one point, they couldn't even hold their serves, that was WTA style.Federer in 2012 defeated Djokovic and Murray back to back winning Wimbledon and became number 1 but was in terrible form because he lost at RG to Djokovic
7 breaks of serve in 12 games in the 2nd set LMAO
Sure sure hit me with all these years where Djokovic’s level was worse than Delpo on clay. Can’t wait to hear it
Did i say Djoker was better than Rafa on clay? Djoker competed with Rafa occasionally on clay. Federer has not.Fed had a mental block against Rafa. Same thing around now with Djokovic. However, there are some matches (2007 Hamburg for Rafa) (2012 Cincinnati for Djokovic) where he bageled them.
Last time I checked, it was Rafa who bageled Djokovic on clay, not the other way around
Nadal has a (slightly) higher winning percentage than Djokovic against the field.
We were talking about Slams.
But Nole still won in straights when both were playing terrible...
That is to be expected because Djokovic's game is less prone to errors even on an off day.
In straights though? C'mon now
Fed was busy ballbashing more than anything else IIRC and that is a foolish strategy on a slow surface against a guy who is probably the best baseliner in tennis history.
Feels like you're tryna avoid giving Djokovic credit for that victory. Do you have the same hesitation with giving Fed his dues for the win the year prior?
I was just analyzing the game, but at the end of the day Djokovic was better that day and won.
Interestingly I think Fed would have probably lost with a similar scoreline if he'd somehow miracled through Nolan, minus the weird breaks of serve. Probably something decisive, but respectable like 6-4, 7-5, 6-3.
For Wimbledon you could add 2008 and 2009 Federer as well for stats (and Fed had a strong field in both)
2021 RG SF >>>> any win Federer has there.
Djokovic RG 11 SF > Djokovic RG 21 SF
