If Medvedev wins the USO 2023, will it be the toughest win since 2011?

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Djokovic in 2011 beat Federer and Nadal back to back while both were in great slam winning form. One of the best back to back semi/final combos of all time.

Medvedev has a chance to do something very similar. Djokovic and Alcaraz have been unquestionably the two dominant players on the planet for over a year, having won the last five slams between them and basically contesting the defacto final at RG and the actual final at W.

The match against Alcaraz in the semis was probably the best level Medvedev has ever shown, and he beat an in form red hot favorite defending champion, who had all the momentum on his side. In the final, if he wins, he beats an in form soon to be new world number one Djokovic, who has played the previous last three slam finals heading in.

If he beats them both back to back, surely this will be one of the toughest title wins of the modern era, and the biggest since USO 2011.
 
I’d have to agree it would be up there. I’d say it’s arguably the hardest back to back wins since Djokovic went through Fedal in 2011.

Depends how the final plays out too,
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
In 2015, Djokovic did defeat the defending US Open champion in the SF before then beating Federer in the Final. I mean that’s pretty impressive. :sneaky::notworthy::unsure:
 

jl809

Hall of Fame
I was wondering this too. Certainly it would be up there, I definitely don’t think it’s tougher than prime Lendlray and peak Nadal B2B at AO 2012, but after that I’m struggling a bit. AO 2017 was tough as well, that might compare well - Stan + Nadal both in decent form
 

Djokodal Fan

Hall of Fame
Agree with you OP. 2011 US OPEN imo is the best version you can get. Pretty intense semis and finals. If Med can pull it off I would say it’s a remarkable achievement and well deserved. I think Med will pull it off
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Djokovic in 2011 beat Federer and Nadal back to back while both were in great slam winning form. One of the best back to back semi/final combos of all time.

Medvedev has a chance to do something very similar. Djokovic and Alcaraz have been unquestionably the two dominant players on the planet for over a year, having won the last five slams between them and basically contesting the defacto final at RG and the actual final at W.

The match against Alcaraz in the semis was probably the best level Medvedev has ever shown, and he beat an in form red hot favorite defending champion, who had all the momentum on his side. In the final, if he wins, he beats an in form soon to be new world number one Djokovic, who has played the previous last three slam finals heading in.

If he beats them both back to back, surely this will be one of the toughest title wins of the modern era, and the biggest since USO 2011.
It won't. Djokovic beat a still great and not too old Fed and prime Nadal. Med beating 2 players at the opposite side of the age spectrum is nice but not on the same level, even if still a pretty solid win if he succeeds.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
nope.
Murray beat Cilic, Berdych and prime Djokovic (+lopez+young Raonic) in USO 12
that'll be the toughest after USO 11.

Wawa beat Djokovic (very likely better than 23 djokovic), nishi and delpo in USO 16. that'll be tougher as well IMO.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
I was wondering this too. Certainly it would be up there, I definitely don’t think it’s tougher than prime Lendlray and peak Nadal B2B at AO 2012, but after that I’m struggling a bit. AO 2017 was tough as well, that might compare well - Stan + Nadal both in decent form

talk is about USO
else many better than current USO after USO 11 in other slams:

AO 12 (murray+nadal), Wim 12 (djoko+murray), AO 13 (wawa, berdych, ferrer, Murray), RG 13 (brands, wawa, djoko, ferrer), AO 14 (djokovic, berdych, nadal), Wim 14 (stepanek, tsonga, cilic, dimi, fed), RG 15 (fed, tsonga, djoko), Wim 15 (anderson, cilic, fed), AO 17 (berdych, nishi, wawa, nadal), Wim 18 (just for nadal semi)
 

mahatma

Hall of Fame
Djokovic in 2011 beat Federer and Nadal back to back while both were in great slam winning form. One of the best back to back semi/final combos of all time.

Medvedev has a chance to do something very similar. Djokovic and Alcaraz have been unquestionably the two dominant players on the planet for over a year, having won the last five slams between them and basically contesting the defacto final at RG and the actual final at W.

The match against Alcaraz in the semis was probably the best level Medvedev has ever shown, and he beat an in form red hot favorite defending champion, who had all the momentum on his side. In the final, if he wins, he beats an in form soon to be new world number one Djokovic, who has played the previous last three slam finals heading in.

If he beats them both back to back, surely this will be one of the toughest title wins of the modern era, and the biggest since USO 2011.

Definitely right up there.
 

ACE of Hearts

Bionic Poster
People are really hyping up med only for him to gag tomorrow. I thought he played well against tiny but tiny had chances and blew them.
 

jl809

Hall of Fame
talk is about USO
else many better than current USO after USO 11 in other slams:

AO 12 (murray+nadal), Wim 12 (djoko+murray), AO 13 (wawa, berdych, ferrer, Murray), RG 13 (brands, wawa, djoko, ferrer), AO 14 (djokovic, berdych, nadal), Wim 14 (stepanek, tsonga, cilic, dimi, fed), RG 15 (fed, tsonga, djoko), Wim 15 (anderson, cilic, fed), AO 17 (berdych, nishi, wawa, nadal), Wim 18 (just for nadal semi)
Ah I see. Ok yeah USO is probably the slam with the least contenders, agreed
 

RS

Bionic Poster
Who played at a higher level?

1. Murray USO 12 final or Murray Wim 15 SF
2. Djokovic RG 15 final or Djokovic Wim 12 SF
3. Tsonga RG 12 QF or Nadal Wim 06 final
4. Ferrero AO 04 QF or Roddick Wim 05 final
5. Nadal AO 12 final or Federer Wim 09 final
 
I dont know. He had an easy draw all the way to the semis. Rublev is a walkover. Carlos is overrated, DJokovic is OLD. Now if Djokovic was still in his prime at 100 percent big difference.. Med should be beating 36 year olds at this point on hardcourts. Djokovic's US Open wins were a little more impressive. Thats not to say Med's level isn't crazy good right now however. Its very good
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
I dont know. He had an easy draw all the way to the semis. Rublev is a walkover. Carlos is overrated, DJokovic is OLD. Now if Djokovic was still in his prime at 100 percent big difference.. Med should be beating 36 year olds at this point on hardcourts. Djokovic's US Open wins were a little more impressive. Thats not to say Med's level isn't crazy good right now however. Its very good
Cilic should have done it too but we already know how his match at the 2018 Australian Open ended against the tournament organization's preferred player.
:(
 

Unseeded Player

Hall of Fame
Not quite the same.. . Novak faced first very near prime Fed and prime/peak Nadal... Medvedev is facing neither peak or prime Novak or Carlos..But in the terms of toughness at USO, yes, both guys are competitive for all 4 slams.
 

messiahrobins

Hall of Fame
This is how I see it. Medvedev beat an in form Alcaraz, if he beats and in form Djokovic also, this win has got to rank up there. That's the clear top two in the world, who were the clear favorites to win the title.
You think alcaraz was in form? Check his UFE stats. Rublev was actually tougher.
It is a monumentally importsnt mstch for medvedev. His legacy will go up alot if he wins. Think indoors will help him alot
 
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