Is Federer a better clay-courter than Nadal?
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happyloman
Semi-Pro
why do you base peak soderling at 2009? why not 2010 ?
RF20Lennon
Legend
Also Agassi>Sampras on grass 
tusharlovesrafa
Hall of Fame
Yes,i think federer is the better clay courter.His smooth style of play makes him implicitly better than Rafa..
because soderling declined so much after 2009. He was never at quite the same level. Anyone who can look past the numbers can understand.
Tenez101
Banned
Federer is on a different planet than Muster. Even SAMPRAS beat Muster at RG (kidding, kidding...
).
happyloman
Semi-Pro
huh? didn't he make the FO FINals in 2010??
happyloman
Semi-Pro
lol... look past the quantitative and objective numbers, and instead use touchy feely?
yeah. But he wasn't playing as well.
Yes. After all, nadal's a much better player than federer overall because he had hte misfortune of playing in a stronger era.
AudreyBlue
New User
I'm lost. How is this even a question!
Federer beat soderling during his peak in the 2009 french open. Nadal failed to do so. This was peak peak sodering. unfortunately, his peak form only lasted for the french open 2009.
AudreyBlue
New User
How about Federer never beat Nadal at Roland Garros. He lost to Nadal all four times and 2008 was not pretty.
happyloman
Semi-Pro
you haven't given any arguments why peak is 2009 and not 2010. (a 2010 peak would render this thread obsolete, of course)
as it stands, this thread's hypothesis is interesting and would be valid if 2009 was the only year tennis was played anywhere. but there were years before and after 2009. can't ignore those annoying facts.
But federer (like soderling) only played his peak tennis in 2009.
But soderling had personal issues and injuries afterwards. And his magical form in 2009 would never be seen a gain.
AudreyBlue
New User
Going by your argument, one peak year makes Federer a better clay courter as someone who has won Roland Garros 8 times like Nadal?
helloworld
Hall of Fame
Federer is a better clay-courter than Nadal. Are you satisfied now?
AudreyBlue
New User
Federer is a better clay-courter than Nadal. Are you satisfied now?
LOL. Yes, Federer is the king of clay.
J
JRAJ1988
Guest
In that French Open 2008 final I've NEVER seen Federer dismantled as I did then, Nadal completely obliterated Federer, nothing seemed to work as back then Federer always had this aura that he was the man and if you're going to beat him you're going through hell trying to but Nadal was in another dimension.
BUT Federer won the next year, Nadal took a sabbatical (injury,personal) during Wimbly..Roger won Wimbledon, should have won the US Open, then won the Aussie Open...he could have held all 4 slams at the same time...:shock:
Nadal then could have done the same if he won the 2011 aussie open. :shock:
BUT Federer won the next year, Nadal took a sabbatical (injury,personal) during Wimbly..Roger won Wimbledon, should have won the US Open, then won the Aussie Open...he could have held all 4 slams at the same time...:shock:
Nadal then could have done the same if he won the 2011 aussie open. :shock:
Chico
Banned
There was no chance for Nadal to win AO 2011.
Also Djokovic could have done the same (and more - i.e. CYGS) if he won FO 2011.
tennisjedi
Hall of Fame
If you mean blue clay, then yes :-|
J
JRAJ1988
Guest
That's true, hypothetically speaking then...but in reality mark 2 Djokovic would have dismantled Nadal at that Australian Open. No disrespect to Nadal but Djokovic was scary good then.
paulorenzo
Hall of Fame
you cant compare players from the same era. too many intangibles.
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FedererWinsWimbledon2014
Guest
Great thread, should be a contender for thread of the year.
THE FIGHTER
Hall of Fame
Is 1477aces a better thread-starter than The Dark Knight?
all joking aside, yes.
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FedererWinsWimbledon2014
Guest
GranollersGOAT
New User
No poll? I'm disappointed...
m2nk2
Hall of Fame
He peaked in 2011 just before getting ill. Much better then than in 2009.
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
Federer is a better clay court player than Nadal.
And Nadal is far better than Federer on grass.
And Nadal is far better than Federer on grass.
Tenez101
Banned
Chico
Banned
Fed would have won, I'm sure.
If Fed could get 12 votes that he will win a tournament he is not even playing I am sure he would win this poll by a landslide:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=478687
It's hard for Fed to lose any poll around here. That said, do you believe Fed is a better clay courter than Nadal? Or are you going to only go by a non clay court poll to rank them?
It's time to man up. Or are obfuscating, by, putting a hc poll instead of giving Nadal any credit on clay?
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This thread was about clay. Why post about HC? I thought you were opposed to folks going off thread, or is it when you don't answer the question? Who's better on clay, Fed or Nadal.
Chico
Banned
I was just answering to previous poster, Mr. Thread Police. :roll:
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
So, who do you think is better on clay, Fed or Nadal ?
That's ok if you want to dodge the question. We know how you roll....:twisted:
Isn't, that ironic, you who act like the board police, by not asking why Novak isn't a part of a thread! And tries to hijack all non Novak threads by bringing him into the conversation!
Are you capable of saying whether you think Fed or Nadal is a better clay courter between the 2? If not, why have you made any post in this thread other than to troll?
Fed or Nadal, that's the thread, period.
Btw, it Ms. Troll police.
tusharlovesrafa
Hall of Fame
hey dude,are you on FB??
I think it's called trolled!
But, be that as it may, There seems to be an obsession by the poster to troll Nadal posts, and try to distract without actually replying to the OP thread!
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
hey dude,are you on FB??
I am. But can't really show it here for personal reasons. Sorry, brah bra
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