Is Federer an All-Time Great?
- Thread starter Sysyphus
- Start date
Tennisanity
Legend
Once Federer retires, time will cease to exist. So yes, Fed is and will be GOAT.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Ahhh, nostalgia. Prince of Persia was in my view the coolest videogame trilogy.
TahoeTennis
Legend
pc1
G.O.A.T.
Sounds like a sci-fi film.
Sysyphus
Talk Tennis Guru
^^^
please do not derail this important thread about time, and goats, and futility, and the inner workings of language. There are broader ideas at work here, mainly what is owed between us as a internet tennis society for our mutual illusions.
thank you
———
Back on topic: suppose time is a flat circle – does that mean Fed could be the new Ash Barty?
please do not derail this important thread about time, and goats, and futility, and the inner workings of language. There are broader ideas at work here, mainly what is owed between us as a internet tennis society for our mutual illusions.
thank you
———
Back on topic: suppose time is a flat circle – does that mean Fed could be the new Ash Barty?
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Is that a two dimensional circle or a three dimensional flat plate?
Sysyphus
Talk Tennis Guru
a world line in a Lorentzian manifold — WHAT ELSE!?
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Then again, time is 4 dimensional I hear!
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Sysyphus
Talk Tennis Guru
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
So time is a flat circle when separated from space?*spacetime
Rad.
Where u at Hawkings?!
MasterZeb
Hall of Fame
But time is just a man made illusion to structure our lives and memories into what happened in the past and what happens now. That star in the night sky has collapsed in on itself into a supernova and all we re seeing is the past.... or is it the present? Everything you're seeing is in the present and is actually there, or is it? Is Federer Goat of all time? Does Sureshs even exist at all?
Sysyphus
Talk Tennis Guru
Should TTW start a GoFundMe to kickstart his career?
Last edited:
-NN-
G.O.A.T.
Sureshs is time and thus an illusion which was probably sculpted by stringertom.
Sysyphus
Talk Tennis Guru
is Federer even Federer anymore? If we take the guy who double-bageled Hewitt in the 04 USO final, most of the cells in that guy's body have now perished and been replaced by something else. His personality has changed enough that the two versions of him would be more like siblings. How can the Federer of today take credit for what the Federer(s) of 2004 did?
These are the questions that do not keep anyone up at night.
wave function collapse or sumt'n'
These are the questions that do not keep anyone up at night.
Did Federer become feder because of some Doppler effect ?
Is Syphus tryng to rech th sped o ligt to fnd aswr to qstn ?
wave function collapse or sumt'n'
MasterZeb
Hall of Fame
Unfortunately for Sysyphus Sureshs has beat him to it and already achieved the speed of light. Time doesn't exist for him hence he hasn't aged one bit. Still looks 15. Doctors hate him!Did Federer become feder because of some Doppler effect ?
Is Syphus tryng to rech th sped o ligt to fnd aswr to qstn ?
MasterZeb
Hall of Fame
D
Deleted member 733170
Guest
Anxiously waiting for Sureshs to hold forth on the multiverse theory before I give thee my precocious vote.
tennis_crazy
Semi-Pro
Nah....a weak era vulturerer!!
Tennisanity
Legend
No, I do not.
Zetty
Hall of Fame
The legendary stronk era!
donquijote
G.O.A.T.
Sysyphus, you know already that what is meant by all-time is the time until today. Nobody has seen the future 'cause it has not happened yet. We can only know who is an all time great by today only. Yes, Fedr and Surish are all time greats.
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
Decent troll, 8/10All of time has not yet passed, so how can we possibly tell?
Bukmeikara
Legend
Great game, great memories
Povl Carstensen
Legend
Future time is hypothetical, so he is a great of All-time existing.All of time has not yet passed, so how can we possibly tell?
Sport
G.O.A.T.
Future time hypothetical my ass. I'm 100% sure that the sun will rise tomorrow in Rome. What? You think this is only hypothetical and not sure? OK, let's make a bet. I will give you 100.000 dollars if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow in Rome. On the other hand, you will pay me 100.000 dollars if the sun rises tomorrow in Rome.
If you don't want to bet is because you know future is not only "hypothetical" but something inevitable.
Last edited:
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Federer transcends time and space. He is eternal . Sport is blessed because Fed chose to play. Fedr GOAT
Sport
G.O.A.T.
Fanboy.
MasterZeb
Hall of Fame
Only one thing in this world is definite, and that's death. Everything else has probability less than 1.0.
Povl Carstensen
Legend
I think you are talking about probability. Anyway, the future has not come into existence yet, so he is indeed a great of all time existing.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
I am residing in Madrid right now. I'm 100% sure the sun will rise tomorrow in this city. Do you want to bet? I will pay you 100.000 dollars if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow in Madrid. On the other hand, you will pay me 100.000 dollars if the sun rises tomorrow in Madrid. If you don't bet is because you know the sun will definetely rise tomorrow in Madrid. In other words, there are more definitive things than death.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
I am not talking about probability, but certainty. Nobody believes the sun will not rise tomorrow in Madrid. That's why they don't bet 100.000 dollars with me.
Anyhow, I agree with your second statement "the future has not come into existence yet". That's obviously true.
But it doesn't mean we cannot predict the future.
Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
Probability of sun rising tomorrow = 1.0 - should be the case for the next 1-2 billion years or so until it goes supernova and engulfs the Earth.
Probability of dying at some point in future = 1.0
MasterZeb
Hall of Fame
There aren't more definitive things than death, as that's just impossible to have a probability more than 1. And something are more likely to happen than others, by different margins. Does that mean they're certain? No. Many things can happen to stop the sun from 'rising' in Madrid. Yes. It most probably will (Something like 0.9 recurring) but who's to say some cataclysmic event won't occur ?
Last edited:
MasterZeb
Hall of Fame
"Should be"
Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
Ok, "will be" - nothing will dislodge the sun for many many years to come.
Sysyphus
Talk Tennis Guru
^^^ A wild Problem of Induction appears
"The man who has fed the chicken every day throughout its life at last wrings its neck instead, showing that more refined views as to the uniformity of nature would have been useful to the chicken."
— Bertrand Russell, The Problems of Philosophy
"The man who has fed the chicken every day throughout its life at last wrings its neck instead, showing that more refined views as to the uniformity of nature would have been useful to the chicken."
— Bertrand Russell, The Problems of Philosophy
Goosehead
Legend
ha. lol..when the earth becomes carbonized (in 4bn years plus I think?) due to nasty horrid sun bereft of nuclear reactions and going surprisingly massive and hugely hugely bigly..who will the tennis goat?..
even as the earth burns up the debate will surely rage on.
unless nuclear war or aliens or summat else ends human life before then.
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Dis iz seriuhs stough m9
