Juan Carlos Ferrero

[RiosTheGenius]

When you go to an ATP event or a grand slam, it is hard to appreciate someone's skills in particular as everyone is just so good. but there are few players that when you watch them play live you can just tell they stand out, they have something natural about them. JC Ferrero is one of those players, had the chance to see him 3 times already in USA.
many times I kinda compare him with Andy Roddick, they both had a great run in 2003, reaching #1 both, winning a slam each, and dominating their opponents for a few months. then they both dissapeared.
but the one BIG difference I find is that JC Ferrero has everything to be a top 10 player, Roddick doesn't.
JC Ferrero can play on all surfaces except for Grass, but considering the lenght of the grass season it isn't really a factor.
JC Ferrero moves extremely well, especially on clay, he has an amazing forehand, his 2HBH is also a huge weapon, both first and second serves are above average, he's fast, goes for the right shots, not bad at the net, very focused.... so.... my question to all of ya....what in the beaten world is wrong with this guy that he's not winning slams?????... or at least being a contender.?

 

[RiosTheGenius]

Even his sense of style 's gotten bad compared to his good days

 

[Watcher]

Juan Carlos Ferrero is one of my favorite active players. I supported him dilligently in his Roland Garros triumph in 2003. Following that victory, he also posted his then best result at Wimbledon (fourth round, tied in 2005), best reult at the US Open, and best result at the Australian Open next year.

As I recall, he had a stomach virus of some kind between the 2004 Aussie Open and Roland Garros, and that caused him to crash out very early at RG 2004, in the second round. His previous lowest finishes had been semi finals in his first two years at the event.

Ever since then, he's not gotten his form back. I can only surmise it's a confidence issue.

This is the man they used to call "El Mosquite" and "The King of Clay," however. He's definitely got more talent than a lot of players ranked above him. I hope someday he can ragain his mental strength, but my hopes dwindle with every loss that should be a voctory (which is many).

 

[skittles]

he isnt ranked high enough in major tournaments for him to really make a run because he usually has to play a dangerous opponent in the first or 2nd rounds. he is gradually making his way up though. you're right he has the skills to be a top ten player but i doubt hes really mentally there. Hes been injured the past year as well which affects his ranking if he cant play as well as he wants to. and Last... he reminds me of Safin in a way..has all the right tools but he loses to unknown players alot.

 

[Jack Romeo]

for ferrero, it's all about confidence and attitude.

he is much more passive now compared to a few years ago. he stays further back and loops the ball back in. this tendency is even more evident on big points. it's like he's afraid to win. usually, he's more aggressive at the beginning of the match or on no-so-big points. that's why a lot of times, he'll take an early lead and still end up losing.

the few times i've seen him this year, he's lost tight matches to the likes of stepanek or ferrer. he just waits for them to miss. that's not the way to play if he wants to become a top 10 player again.

contrary to what you posted, i don't think roddick has "disappeared." he's still 11th and he maintained a top 5 ranking all of 2004 and 2005, while ferrero at one point dropped to like 80 or something and has only climbed back to the 20's or 30's. obviously, for that to happen, roddick was and still is winning more matches than ferrero. though andy's ranking is dropping now, i don't think he'll fall as far as ferrero unless he gets injured. i think he'll stay in the top 20.

that's another thing that has helped roddick - he has stayed relatively healthy and fit compared to JC. it is a huge factor if a player wants to be in the top 10. obviously, roddick has more power on serve and forehand than ferrero. he can still count on hitting some aces and forehand winners, while ferrero can't. andy may be more awkward in movement, he can still cover the court almost as well. his volleys are still terrible, but at least he's trying; JC isn't even doing that nowadays even if he's should be technically better at it.

 

[stormholloway]

Ferrero is pure class and is one of my favorite players. He is a pure ball striker in every sense. I wish he would return to form.

 

[EliteNinja]

When Ferrero went from Prince to Head, there was a noticeable drop in his performance. I'm not saying that it was the major contributor to his underachievement, but perhaps a part of it was of it.

That said, Flexpoint is a total gimmick.

 

[nn]

When Ferrero went from Prince to Head, there was a noticeable drop in his performance. I'm not saying that it was the major contributor to his underachievement, but perhaps a part of it was of it.

That said, Flexpoint is a total gimmick.

yes you are so right.

Nalbadian switch from Prince to Yonex ... perfect move as Yonex makes better racquets compare to Heads

recent RDS series says all (love RDS 001 MID BIG TIME)

 

[35ft6]

Ferrero's strokes are NASTAYYYYYY. At least they used to be. Back in the day, he was a guy I never expected to miss. Just relentless aggression on clay.

 

[aramis]

he isnt ranked high enough in major tournaments for him to really make a run because he usually has to play a dangerous opponent in the first or 2nd rounds. he is gradually making his way up though. you're right he has the skills to be a top ten player but i doubt hes really mentally there. Hes been injured the past year as well which affects his ranking if he cant play as well as he wants to. and Last... he reminds me of Safin in a way..has all the right tools but he loses to unknown players alot.

That was definitely the case last year with bad draws and all (also the Head racquet didn't help Im sure), but this year he has had nothing but good draws, especially at the slams, and he has switched back to his Prince and he is STILL losing (just lost to Albert Portas last week in round 1 ON CLAY), so the only thing is lack of confidence.

And the lack of confidence really shows in his footwork, which 3,4,5 years ago was probably the best in the world. If you can watch some of his matches from those years, do so just to see how amazing his footwork is; you just dont see that kind of movement any more on the ATP, especially from the so called "future stars" of today's game. I would even rank his footwork above Federer's, as well. If you watch some of his matches from this year, though, you'll see that his footing is very lazy and slow; he just doesn't run or scramble anymore. And this poor footing is the one thing responsible for the severe drop in his groundgame, which currently lacks the power and consistency that made it so frightening in the past; I pretty much expect him to lose all long rallies nowadays, which he does for the most part. He just cant get into the perfect position to hit a forehand or backhand anymore, whereas in the past he would take constant, short, quick steps to get into that position that allowed him to rifle that forehand crosscourt or down the line, with consistency. He was so versatile off the forehand side, it didn't matter whether he was in a closed stance, open stance, semi-open stance, or even off of one foot, he could still hit a great shot on any surface, not just clay. Then there was the aesthetic quality of his forehand; just a beautiful looking shot. He was getting pretty darn tough on the grass also, before he fell prey to chicken pox. Remember the Davis Cup Final in 2003, which was played on grass in Australia? I'm sure the Aussies made that court play as quick as possible, and yet Ferrero still took both Hewitt and Mark P. to five sets and had chances to beat them both.

If he could just get back to that level from before he would easily get back into the top 5, maybe even 3, considering who the current number 3 is. He's lucky that he has no injury to pull him back, like Guga, so a return to the top isnt beyond him for the next 3 or 4 years, which is probably all the time he has left, considering he is already 26.

 

[RiosTheGenius]

contrary to what you posted, i don't think roddick has "disappeared." he's still 11th and he maintained a top 5 ranking all of 2004 and 2005, while ferrero at one point dropped to like 80 or something and has only climbed back to the 20's or 30's. obviously, for that to happen, roddick was and still is winning more matches than ferrero. though andy's ranking is dropping now, i don't think he'll fall as far as ferrero unless he gets injured. i think he'll stay in the top 20.

but the point about Roddick, regardless of their accomplishments is that Ferrero could've done a lot more than Roddick as he is much more complete, more weapons, and he is just a natural, Roddick isn't.
watch Ferrero hit a forehand winner and then watch Roddick, you'll see that Ferrero looks smooth and confident, while Roddick looks tight and seems to work a lot to get the shot going....

 

[bdawg]

When you go to an ATP event or a grand slam, it is hard to appreciate someone's skills in particular as everyone is just so good. but there are few players that when you watch them play live you can just tell they stand out, they have something natural about them. JC Ferrero is one of those players, had the chance to see him 3 times already in USA.
many times I kinda compare him with Andy Roddick, they both had a great run in 2003, reaching #1 both, winning a slam each, and dominating their opponents for a few months. then they both dissapeared.
but the one BIG difference I find is that JC Ferrero has everything to be a top 10 player, Roddick doesn't.
JC Ferrero can play on all surfaces except for Grass, but considering the lenght of the grass season it isn't really a factor.
JC Ferrero moves extremely well, especially on clay, he has an amazing forehand, his 2HBH is also a huge weapon, both first and second serves are above average, he's fast, goes for the right shots, not bad at the net, very focused.... so.... my question to all of ya....what in the beaten world is wrong with this guy that he's not winning slams?????... or at least being a contender.?

Ferrero wasn't just talent that made him a threat. He was such a smart tennis player. I recall him playing Federer in Doha or Dubai and I recall thinking he's a good intellect when it comes to strategy . This point was very true at the 2003 US OPEN where he just outsmarted a very competent Agassi.

 

[simi]

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[Jack Romeo]

but the point about Roddick, regardless of their accomplishments is that Ferrero could've done a lot more than Roddick as he is much more complete, more weapons, and he is just a natural, Roddick isn't.
watch Ferrero hit a forehand winner and then watch Roddick, you'll see that Ferrero looks smooth and confident, while Roddick looks tight and seems to work a lot to get the shot going....

ferrero is definitely more of a natural than roddick. but results and stats don't lie. roddick has had better results than ferrero over the last 2-1/2 years. i had already said ferrero looks like he's lacking in confidence but look at roddick now and he doesn't look confident either. yet still, the technically inferior roddick is doing much better than ferrero as their rankings and win-loss records clearly show.

part of the reason is health and injuries - as i said, roddick has remained healthier of the two.

another reason is that they probably both realize that lack of confidence is a problem but they have different ways of tackling this problem. on one hand, ferrero becomes more passive and sits back waiting for things to happen, hoping things will go his way. if they do, then he'll probably gain in confidence, but right now, things aren't going his way, so he remains as he is. he has the technical resources but he is being unresourceful.

and on the other hand there's roddick, who as i mentioned, still has the firepower good enough for a few more wins to keep him ahead results-wise over ferrero. andy still goes for his shots and consequently can still win more big points. but he also sees that the other players have figured him out, so he tries to add new dimensions to his game when he isn't even talented enough to do so. regardless, he tries out these new things (slice backhand, volleys) in actual matches and, predictably, they don't really work all the time. this leads to confusion and a lot of second guessing. but his approach is still better because he is trying to make things happen and very occassionally things actually go his way. not enough to win slams, but enough to contend, albeit as a longshot.

 

[TrueAce]

but the point about Roddick, regardless of their accomplishments is that Ferrero could've done a lot more than Roddick as he is much more complete, more weapons, and he is just a natural, Roddick isn't.
watch Ferrero hit a forehand winner and then watch Roddick, you'll see that Ferrero looks smooth and confident, while Roddick looks tight and seems to work a lot to get the shot going....

Ferrero is primarily a clay courter. His strokes look better than roddicks, his footwork is better.....but lets be realistic he was blown off the court in the us open no matter how smooth he looked. Roddick's serve is superior and his forehand is still better on anything but clay. I hope he does return to form but like someone else said the stats don't lie and andy has been better regardless of ferreros cirumstances.

 

[aramis]

Ferrero is primarily a clay courter. His strokes look better than roddicks, his footwork is better.....but lets be realistic he was blown off the court in the us open no matter how smooth he looked. Roddick's serve is superior and his forehand is still better on anything but clay. I hope he does return to form but like someone else said the stats don't lie and andy has been better regardless of ferreros cirumstances.

Well, thats the thing, Roddick has to rely on his huge serve to set up a big forehand. Its the only way for him to hit that shot. When his big serve loses the consistency like it has this year particularily, then see how helpless he becomes off the ground. Whenever he doesnt get a good solid first or second serve in the court, which would allow his opponent to hit a solid return, his forehand is probably not going to help him in that point.

 

[RiosTheGenius]

Ferrero is primarily a clay courter. His strokes look better than roddicks, his footwork is better.....but lets be realistic he was blown off the court in the us open no matter how smooth he looked. Roddick's serve is superior and his forehand is still better on anything but clay. I hope he does return to form but like someone else said the stats don't lie and andy has been better regardless of ferreros cirumstances.

I don't think yours is the smartest post here. Ferrero is great on hard courts, his groundies are nasty. .... then you mention the US open final (I pressume) ... you're just looking at the score , just like most of the people here do, but you're forgetting the intangibles, JC Ferrero had absolutely nothing left by the time he played that final as his last two matches took a lot from him. so though Roddick is the deserving winner, I wouldn't say he blew Ferrero off the court as you estate.

 

[verdasco67]

I don't think yours is the smartest post here. Ferrero is great on hard courts, his groundies are nasty. .... then you mention the US open final (I pressume) ... you're just looking at the score , just like most of the people here do, but you're forgetting the intangibles, JC Ferrero had absolutely nothing left by the time he played that final as his last two matches took a lot from him. so though Roddick is the deserving winner, I wouldn't say he blew Ferrero off the court as you estate.

i agree

 

[aramis]

I don't think yours is the smartest post here. Ferrero is great on hard courts, his groundies are nasty. .... then you mention the US open final (I pressume) ... you're just looking at the score , just like most of the people here do, but you're forgetting the intangibles, JC Ferrero had absolutely nothing left by the time he played that final as his last two matches took a lot from him. so though Roddick is the deserving winner, I wouldn't say he blew Ferrero off the court as you estate.

True. It was his fourth best of five match in as many days, and on top of that he was playing on the most painful surface in tennis. Playing that much on hard courts is something that would probably take the wind out of Nadal even.

 

[TrueAce]

I don't think yours is the smartest post here. Ferrero is great on hard courts, his groundies are nasty. .... then you mention the US open final (I pressume) ... you're just looking at the score , just like most of the people here do, but you're forgetting the intangibles, JC Ferrero had absolutely nothing left by the time he played that final as his last two matches took a lot from him. so though Roddick is the deserving winner, I wouldn't say he blew Ferrero off the court as you estate.

How is that Roddicks fault that Ferrero had trouble getting to the finals. I know Ferrero is good on hard courts but not as good as Roddick by any means even if his strokes are smoother. That would be like when someone makes it to the final struggling through each match and faces Federer in the final who has cruised. Then someone says well he has nothing left that's why hes losing so easily. Roddick was to good on that day period. Maybe you don't see the intangibles about tennis in general? Pretty strokes don't always equal a better record.
Roddick 325-101
JC 309-151

 

[TrueAce]

When you go to an ATP event or a grand slam, it is hard to appreciate someone's skills in particular as everyone is just so good. but there are few players that when you watch them play live you can just tell they stand out, they have something natural about them. JC Ferrero is one of those players, had the chance to see him 3 times already in USA.
many times I kinda compare him with Andy Roddick, they both had a great run in 2003, reaching #1 both, winning a slam each, and dominating their opponents for a few months. then they both dissapeared.
but the one BIG difference I find is that JC Ferrero has everything to be a top 10 player, Roddick doesn't.
JC Ferrero can play on all surfaces except for Grass, but considering the lenght of the grass season it isn't really a factor.
JC Ferrero moves extremely well, especially on clay, he has an amazing forehand, his 2HBH is also a huge weapon, both first and second serves are above average, he's fast, goes for the right shots, not bad at the net, very focused.... so.... my question to all of ya....what in the beaten world is wrong with this guy that he's not winning slams?????... or at least being a contender.?

I don't think this is the smartest post either saying that Roddick doesn't have everything to be a top ten player. He's better on grass and also on hardcourts. JC is only better on clay. Roddicks been in the top 10 actually the top 5 until recently where has JC been? I guess hes been hurt or something....anyways it doesnt matter results have shown Roddick being the better player and ferrero has been strugling worse than him lately.

 

[aramis]

How is that Roddicks fault that Ferrero had trouble getting to the finals. I know Ferrero is good on hard courts but not as good as Roddick by any means even if his strokes are smoother. That would be like when someone makes it to the final struggling through each match and faces Federer in the final who has cruised. Then someone says well he has nothing left that's why hes losing so easily. Roddick was to good on that day period.

We should all just stop talking about the USO match now. Yes Ferrero was definetly more tired than Roddick, but even if he were at full strength I'm convinced he still would have lost. Ferrero was never good at returning big serves and Andy was serving like a demon that day.

What I would like to hear from you is how you think Ferrero in top form would effect the ATP nowadays. I for one think he would definetly be top 5 EASILY. I say this because, excluding Nadal and Federer (who are really in their own universe at this point), the average level of the top ten is not what it was about 3-4 years ago. Ferrero could really cause some havoc out there which would spice things up in the same way a somewhat consistent Marat Safin would.

 

[TrueAce]

I guess i'm just partial to roddick being american and was defending him even though I play more like JC myself. I don't know what he needs to do but i wish he would to. His two hander is great, I would put his serve as his biggest weakness even though it's not bad...Hopefully he can find a way along with Safin cause they both have tons of talent.....I think it just comes down to determination cause he has all the tools...

 

[Kid Carlos]

I saw Ferrero practice today at the masters series Toronto with David Ferrer. He was hitting his forehand huge. At this level its not only about strokes. Ferrero is mega gifted no question, and hitting with Ferrer it was even more evident. Ferrero was just crushing the ball with little effort while it was clear that Ferrer was using more force and effort. The bottom line is that to me it seems that Ferrero just has to want it a little more. He has to except tough matches and get through them. I do believe however that we have seen the best of JC Ferrero because having that Federer/Nadal ora is not easy to come by. Ferrero did have it in 2003, but so did Hewitt/Safin/Guga. I dont believe Ferrero will ever be in the top 10 again. Sorry.

 

[skittles]

I dont believe Ferrero will ever be in the top 10 again. Sorry.

are you crazy? you should look at the top 30. anyone ranked between 5-30 can be a top ten player.

 

[superman1]

Ferrero should be better than Roddick, but he's not. Should have better results, but he doesn't.

They played a close match last year, can't remember where. Ferrero was playing brilliantly and SHOULD have won that match...but he didn't.

What's up, Juan Carlos? Why do you always look so glum on the court? Even in that still shot of him hitting a backhand, he looks depressed.

 

[Dilettante]

Ferrero is a hugely gifted player, anyone who watch him play in 2003 knows that. He really demostrated that hge's got the weapons and he demostrated that he could use them. He looked like a long-term top-5 player.

Today, I think he's got a confidence issue or something like that. He loses matches to players that in 2003 wouldn't even coughed at him. I can't explain what's wrong with Ferrero, as in his peak he seemed to have achieved a good mental toughness... that just has gone away.

 

[aramis]

I saw Ferrero practice today at the masters series Toronto with David Ferrer. He was hitting his forehand huge. At this level its not only about strokes. Ferrero is mega gifted no question, and hitting with Ferrer it was even more evident. Ferrero was just crushing the ball with little effort while it was clear that Ferrer was using more force and effort. The bottom line is that to me it seems that Ferrero just has to want it a little more. He has to except tough matches and get through them. I do believe however that we have seen the best of JC Ferrero because having that Federer/Nadal ora is not easy to come by. Ferrero did have it in 2003, but so did Hewitt/Safin/Guga. I dont believe Ferrero will ever be in the top 10 again. Sorry.

Yeah, a lot of people who see JC practice say he plays really well then, but he loses everything during the match. He may have been schooling Ferrer in practice, but that doesnt change the fact that he has lost to him twice this year in straight sets.

Why cant he be a top ten again? Federer and Nadal only occupy two postions you know, and the rest of the top ten is horrible compared to when Ferrero was in the top 5. I think he could easily get back into the top 5 if he gets his swagger back.

 

[sandiegotennisboy]

juan carlos is done. stick a fork in him. i dont understand how he even got so high in the ranking considering that he was an average baseliner at best.

 

[lorenza]

Yeah, a lot of people who see JC practice say he plays really well then, but he loses everything during the match. He may have been schooling Ferrer in practice, but that doesnt change the fact that he has lost to him twice this year in straight sets.

Why cant he be a top ten again? Federer and Nadal only occupy two postions you know, and the rest of the top ten is horrible compared to when Ferrero was in the top 5. I think he could easily get back into the top 5 if he gets his swagger back.

i agree. i always liked watching him play and i think if he just wanted it and tried a little more he could definitely be a top player again.

 

[stormholloway]

I'm American and would take Ferrero any day. It's about ability. Ferrero has more of it than Roddick. When Ferrero is in top form he's one of the best in the world.

 

[RiosTheGenius]

How is that Roddicks fault that Ferrero had trouble getting to the finals. I know Ferrero is good on hard courts but not as good as Roddick by any means even if his strokes are smoother. That would be like when someone makes it to the final struggling through each match and faces Federer in the final who has cruised. Then someone says well he has nothing left that's why hes losing so easily. Roddick was to good on that day period. Maybe you don't see the intangibles about tennis in general? Pretty strokes don't always equal a better record.
Roddick 325-101
JC 309-151

buddy.... knock it off with Roddick... this thread is about Ferrero, I just mentioned Roddick as another player hitting big at the time, but I want to hear your thoughts on JC, not on JC vs Andy... another thread jacked by missing the point Roddick tools.

juan carlos is done. stick a fork in him. i dont understand how he even got so high in the ranking considering that he was an average baseliner at best.

why did you bother posting, you evidently don't know Ferrero's game, his potential, or how he contrasts against other players...... if you know anything about tennis at all..... "average baseliner"...another tool for the collection

 

[RiosTheGenius]

I don't think this is the smartest post either saying that Roddick doesn't have everything to be a top ten player. He's better on grass and also on hardcourts. JC is only better on clay. Roddicks been in the top 10 actually the top 5 until recently where has JC been? I guess hes been hurt or something....anyways it doesnt matter results have shown Roddick being the better player and ferrero has been strugling worse than him lately.

you read what you want to read. I didn't say Roddick didn't have skills, I said that I'm surprised and disappointed that JC Ferrero hasn't done more being more skilled than players such as Roddick.... no one is bashing your boy, relax

 

[aramis]

How do you think a top form Ferrero would fare against the newcomers like Murray, Marcos, Novak, Gasquet, etc.? I think he could handle 'em.

 

[verdasco67]

How do you think a top form Ferrero would fare against the newcomers like Murray, Marcos, Novak, Gasquet, etc.? I think he could handle 'em.

Me too. If ferrero gains his old form back he would put up at least a good fight against them

 

[TrueAce]

you read what you want to read. I didn't say Roddick didn't have skills, I said that I'm surprised and disappointed that JC Ferrero hasn't done more being more skilled than players such as Roddick.... no one is bashing your boy, relax

I understand as someone posted before in this thread that ferrero was hitting a better ball with less effort while practicing against ferrer but he still ends up losing to him this year. Roddick isn't even my favorite player but I'm just pointing out that the smoother player doesn't always come out on top it takes a lot more than good looking strokes to stay at the top. Ferrero has all the tools but maybe he doesn't want to put the work in anymore whereas someone like ferrer has been hungry lately...

 

[sandiegotennisboy]

why did you bother posting, you evidently don't know Ferrero's game, his potential, or how he contrasts against other players...... if you know anything about tennis at all..... "average baseliner"...another tool for the collection

i know that hes done, what else is there to know. and who ever regarded him as an all-courter with an adaptable game? baseliners come and go, and some see success when the tour isnt exactly booming with talent. he had his time in the sun.

 

[aramis]

The tour really needs the real Juan Carlos Ferrero back in the top five. He was legit on all surfaces, even grass to a certain extent. He was never the kind of of clay court player many of you imagine him to be, the type that shows up only for the clay season and either doesn't try or boycotts all other tournaments. It is highly embarassing that the world number 3 and 4 players of this year have done close to nothing for several months...and yet they still maintain their rankings. Especially Ivan Ljubicic the "world number 4"; what has this guy been doing lately? Having his head spit shined? Is he just planning on hibernating a few more months until the indoor season, knowing that the rest of the atp is useless and poses no threat in overtaking his ranking? Pitiful!

 

[aramis]

i know that hes done, what else is there to know. and who ever regarded him as an all-courter with an adaptable game? baseliners come and go, and some see success when the tour isnt exactly booming with talent. he had his time in the sun.

There is no such thing as an all-courter in today's game, in which all surfaces play more similar than ever before. Yes, even Federer is a baseliner; his net game is average at best. So to denounce Ferrero for being a "baseliner" is not saying much, considering that everyone is a baseliner nowadays. Its just that some baseliners are counter punchers while others are shotmakers. This is as much tactical variety you'll find in today's game. Ferrero is an extremely explosive baseliner with superb footwork and court positioning skills, not just an ordinary dirtballer. He'd have plenty of success in today's game if he can get back to his old level. True, he'd never win another slam with Nadal and Federer around, but he'd still be a consistent contender.

 

[unjugon]

juan carlos is done. stick a fork in him. i dont understand how he even got so high in the ranking considering that he was an average baseliner at best.

As high as number 1, to be precise.

 

[sandiegotennisboy]

As high as number 1, to be precise.

sep 8 to nov 2, 2003. wasnt as bad as rafter's 1 week or moya's 2 week reign, but yeah, youre right he got up to #1.

he reminds me of a lesser hewitt with more oomph in his shots.

 

[Kid Carlos]

The bottom line is this, getting to the top is one thing staying there is another. Rios, Rafter, Moya, Safin and maybe even Roddick got there and left pretty early. Ferrero is in the same boat. Watching him practice both friday and Saturday in Toronto as I mentioned earlier he looks mega talented. However he also looks content and not willing to go the extra mile. That is why I dont see him making it back to the top ten. Again Im going to bring back David Ferrer and how much he wants it. He was practicing with Lopez today grunting and screaming and throwing his racquet in a practice set. That man wants it and will give everything he has much like Nadal. Once the fight is gone it doesnt matter how much you are gifted. Believe me.

 

[sandiegotennisboy]

The bottom line is this, getting to the top is one thing staying there is another. Rios, Rafter, Moya, Safin and maybe even Roddick got there and left pretty early. Ferrero is in the same boat. Watching him practice both friday and Saturday in Toronto as I mentioned earlier he looks mega talented. However he also looks content and not willing to go the extra mile. That is why I dont see him making it back to the top ten. Again Im going to bring back David Ferrer and how much he wants it. He was practicing with Lopez today grunting and screaming and throwing his racquet in a practice set. That man wants it and will give everything he has much like Nadal. Once the fight is gone it doesnt matter how much you are gifted. Believe me.

exactly. same thing with hewitt. he was a baseliner. i dont think his game was 'extraordinary' or that he was really special. his game was good enough to get him to the top until the field caught up and figured him out. when i try to say that about JCF, people go nuts. JCF didnt have talent oozing out of his pores. hewitt doesnt either. i respect them for getting as high up as they did, but i also recognize the fact that the competition on the tour at the times they did get to #1 wasnt really that hot.

hewitt also has probably lost motivation. he has a wife and kid. he doesnt need money. he doesnt like the media that much. this all = to being mediocre, just like JCF.

 

[Frodo Baggins]

Don't go Bashing my hoppie>Or I'll cry *Crys over Hoppie*

 

[sandiegotennisboy]

Don't go Bashing my hoppie>Or I'll cry *Crys over Hoppie*

que tu quieres?

 

[aramis]

Just because Nadal and Federer weren't dominating when Ferrero became no. 1, that automatically means the tour was full of wimps? Because when all of you keep talking about the improved level of competition I can only guess that you're talking about Federer and Nadal, who are really the only two players who have improved the last couple of years; everyone else has gotten worse or older, and the newcomers are still too inconsistent. Why cant anyone see that it is not about the competition being too tough for Ferrero and that it is really just a matter of him not playing the same way as he used to?

 

[sandiegotennisboy]

Just because Nadal and Federer weren't dominating when Ferrero became no. 1, that automatically means the tour was full of wimps? Because when all of you keep talking about the improved level of competition I can only guess that you're talking about Federer and Nadal, who are really the only two players who have improved the last couple of years; everyone else has gotten worse or older, and the newcomers are still too inconsistent. Why cant anyone see that it is not about the competition being too tough for Ferrero and that it is really just a matter of him not playing the same way as he used to?

i didnt mention federer or nadal. even if fererro played the same way he used to, it still wouldnt stand up much against a lot of players today, even the green newcomers.

 

[aramis]

i didnt mention federer or nadal. even if fererro played the same way he used to, it still wouldnt stand up much against a lot of players today, even the green newcomers.

How do you know this as a fact?

 

[sandiegotennisboy]

How do you know this as a fact?

how do you its not. its not like he's shown you any differently. whatever this thread is old.

 

[TrueAce]

Like someone said getting to the top is one thing but staying there is another. To stay there you have to have the desire and secondly it helps being a few levels above the rest of the field a la Sampras and Federer.