Do you guy think its make any different in the NTRP compare with 4.5 and a 5 or higher? To me i dont care what rate im in, but if i was to rated myself i would probably be in the 4.5 or higher. The reason why i say this is cause week ago i was playing with a stranger and we played a best out of 3 games and i beat him 3-2 and at the end he say i played good and told me that he was a professional coach and been playing every since he was 7. Then i ask him if he string racket and he say yes and gave me his business card that he was working for a club if kinda back up his point. Who would know if we played a real match to see who will win. I have been self taugh and been playing 4 years now. Also there's a post in here's asking to see a 5 NTRP rated forward hand stroke? i say there's no such thing as that cause compare Nadal with Feder forward hand and see which one is in the higher mark? A 7 rated just dont make any different just cause you play in tornument or pro or something like that to a 4.5 or a 5. How about this compare Nadal skill with Feder skill, who would you rated higher?