Olympic Gold: Rafa won it on HC, Djoker and Fed did not win it on their best surface

[Lleytonstation]

This is interesting. Even as a Fed fan (does have a gold... I know I know, but he does have a tennis gold ), I do find this important, as Rafa won gold on a HC.

Fed has his chance on grass, and Djoker had his chance on hard. Both failed to win gold.

While this shows there is very few opportunities to get it done, it also shows that Rafa did it on (at the time) his worst surface and Fed and djoker could not on their best surface.

 

[Deleted member 766172]

I feel bad for Djokovic and Federer for not having won the Olympic Gold in singles, but I don't weigh it too heavily on their resumes. Partly being that it occurs only every 4 years and so it measures something entirely different than what is typically measured within a calendar year of tennis. The importance of mental strength, along with how consistent the player's game is against opponents, is greatly amplified for the Olympics.

 

[The Blond Blur]

 

[Red Rick]

 

[Red Rick]

Being nerfect sounds like being born with birth defect lmao

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Olympic Singles is an EXHO until Federer wins it.
Olympic Doubles is a big resume booster, however. Huge gold medal for Federer. Went through #1 doubles team possibly ever to do it too.

 

[The Blond Blur]

Being nerfect sounds like being born with birth defect lmao

 

[Third Serve]

Murray won his on two different surfaces!!!

 

[Red Rick]

Olympic Singles is an EXHO until Federer wins it.
Olympic Doubles is a big resume booster, however. Huge gold medal for Federer. Went through #1 doubles team possibly ever to do it too.

Lmao. That's literally the first thing somebody told me after Bryan bro retirement announcement.

"Bryan bro's retiring. May be best doubles couple ever. Fed beat them. OMG Fed"

 

[Deleted member 766172]

Olympic Singles is an EXHO until Federer wins it.
Olympic Doubles is a big resume booster, however. Huge gold medal for Federer. Went through #1 doubles team possibly ever to do it too.

Correct. I'm glad somebody gets it.

 

[Red Rick]

Murray won his on two different surfaces!!!

He'll get a chance at Orange Tennis in 2024.

*Orange tennis the name given to clay tennis by Sophia Murray

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Lmao. That's literally the first thing somebody told me after Bryan bro retirement announcement.

"Bryan bro's retiring. May be best doubles couple ever. Fed beat them. OMG Fed"

I remember the Bryan Bro's saying doubles took special skills singles players didn't have.

Fed and Wawrinka wipe the floor with them

Bryan Bros:

 

[Red Rick]

I remember the Bryan Bro's saying doubles took special skills singles players didn't have.

Fed and Wawrinka wipe the floor with them

Bryan Bros:

Wawrinka carried 2008 post Wimbly PTSD Fraud all the way to Olympic gold, causing back injury that made Wawrinka useless for the next 5 years. Classic Fraud

 

[tonylg]

Are people really interested in tennis at the Olympics? Or the Olympics in general?

I kind of getting it if you're into athletics, but it's really a novelty event for tennis, like Laver Cup.

 

[The Blond Blur]

Are people really interested in tennis at the Olympics? Or the Olympics in general?

I kind of getting it if you're into athletics, but it's really a novelty event for tennis, like Laver Cup.

 

[Deleted member 766172]

Are people really interested in tennis at the Olympics? Or the Olympics in general?

I kind of getting it if you're into athletics, but it's really a novelty event for tennis, like Laver Cup.

Those medals are very real, and there is a lot of pride at stake trying to win for your country. I badly wanted Fed to beat Murray.

 

[Red Rick]

Olympics were really heartbreaking for me in 2016

Spoiler

When my man Vincenzo Nibali was tryna win the cycling road race on the descent of the final climb, hit a rock on the road and broke both collarbones

 

[The Blond Blur]

Olympics were really heartbreaking for me in 2016

Spoiler

When my man Vincenzo Nibali was tryna win the cycling road race on the descent of the final climb, hit a rock on the road and broke both collarbones

 

[Third Serve]

He'll get a chance at Orange Tennis in 2024.

*Orange tennis the name given to clay tennis by Sophia Murray

Would be epic if he did win!

 

[Third Serve]

Actually, it'd be epic if he would still be playing at that point.

 

[Red Rick]

It's cycling. Worse **** happens, including deaths in races.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

This is interesting. Even as a Fed fan (does have a gold... I know I know, but he does have a tennis gold ), I do find this important, as Rafa won gold on a HC.

Fed has his chance on grass, and Djoker had his chance on hard. Both failed to win gold.

While this shows there is very few opportunities to get it done, it also shows that Rafa did it on (at the time) his worst surface and Fed and djoker could not on their best surface.

Good point.
Never really thought of that

I heard Rafa love the Spanish camp during Olympics and he likes the feeling of competing for something together. Maybe that inspired him a lot to win. Dont know.

 

[BHud]

Who gives a rat's arse...YE and O are just exos...this season should have been over end of September, and Olympics shouldn't even be discussed...

 

[tonylg]

Those medals are very real, and there is a lot of pride at stake trying to win for your country. I badly wanted Fed to beat Murray.

Are you Swiss? If so, I kind of get it.

As an Australian, I'm currently watching what is now called the Davis Cup. I have LOVED Davis Cup for almost half a century. Not sure about the new format.

But the Olympics? No interest in the tennis. To me, tennis is bigger than the Olympics, which is a platform for global competition in lesser sports.

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[Deleted member 766172]

Are you Swiss? If so, I kind of get it.

As an Australian, I'm currently watching what is now called the Davis Cup. I have LOVED Davis Cup for almost half a century. Not sure about the new format.

But the Olympics? No interest in the tennis. To me, tennis is bigger than the Olympics, which is a platform for global competition in lesser sports.

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No, not Swiss. I just like the Olympics. Probably because I used to play one of those lesser sports along with tennis.

 

[Ombelibable]

Wawrinka carried 2008 post Wimbly PTSD Fraud all the way to Olympic gold, causing back injury that made Wawrinka useless for the next 5 years. Classic Fraud

.... And then came back to halt one slam for Rafa and two for Nole - it's like the guy exists solely to preserve Federer's legacy.

 

[Red Rick]

.... And then came back to halt one slam for Rafa and two for Nole - it's like the guy exists solely to preserve Federer's legacy.

Laughs in Basel

 

[Sport]

Are you Swiss? If so, I kind of get it.

As an Australian, I'm currently watching what is now called the Davis Cup. I have LOVED Davis Cup for almost half a century. Not sure about the new format.

But the Olympics? No interest in the tennis. To me, tennis is bigger than the Olympics, which is a platform for global competition in lesser sports.

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Is basketball a lesser sport? Nope. One of the most popular sports in the world. In fact, it is even more popular than tennis. Yet all national teams (even the USA) take bastkeball extremelly seriously at the Olympics. Football is the most popular sport worldwide and is also included in the Olympics. Tennis has never been, and never will be, bigger than the Olympics. That is the most ridiculous claim I have ever read.

The Olympics have a longer and much richer tradition than tennis. The ancient Olympics have a long tradition coming back from the Ancient Greece in the 7th century BC, many centuries before the inception of tennis. And modern Olympics have representation of virtually all international sports: football, basketball, tennis, boxing, running, table tennis, waterpolo, etc.

In short, the Olympics represent the UNIVERSAL (all, or virtually all sports), while tennis only represents the PARTICULAR (one individual sport).

The universal > the particular. So the Olympics are far more relevant than tennis or any individual sport for that matter.

 

[Ombelibable]

Laughs in Basel

Laughs in RG '15 shorts

 

[tonylg]

Is basketball a lesser sport? Nope. One of the most popular sports in the world. Yet all national teams (even the USA) take bastkeball extremelly seriously at the Olympics. Football is the most popular sport worldwide and is also included in the Olympics. Tennis has never been, and never will be, bigger than the Olympics. That is the most ridiculous claim I have ever read.

The classic Olympics have a long tradition coming back from the Ancient Greece in the 6th century BC. And modern Olympics have representation of virtually all international sports: football, basketball, tennis, boxing, running, table tennis, waterpolo, chess, etc.

None of those other sports have global competition for 10 months of the year.

 

[ChaelAZ]

Let’s not even talk about Fed’s poultry work at Davis cup over the years for his country. Basically got one thanks to Stan, and bailed.


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[Chadalina]

3rd worlders love the olympics

 

[Tennis_Hands]

These days almost no thread can pass without the nonsense brigade (red ricks, slim shadies, rustys etc.) *****ing all over the place.

Anyway, @Lleytonstation , what is your point, since it is obvious that you didn't forget that HC is not Nadal's worst surface? Nadal's worst surface is grass, and that is not even debatable.

Other than that, if you look closely in the respective results, you will see how sensitive the results at the Olympics are to current form, which is actually one of the major criticisms towards the Olympic tennis competition. Nadal won his singles gold in arguably the best 5 months stretch of his career. The best you can say is that he prioritised that competition. However, if you look closely, that win might have cost him a finals appearance at the USO that year. Not many people talk about that, but that result against Murray at the 2008 USO is one of the most inexplicable losses in Nadal's career.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Let’s not even talk about Fed’s poultry work at Davis cup over the years for his country. Basically got one thanks to Stan, and bailed.
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Federer has played DC and has more individual wins than any of the big 3 (to this day). To top it off, you obviously didn't watch some of the rubbers where Stan was atrocious and Federer had to single-handedly put Switzerland in the next round (especially against Kazakhstan, where Stan basically layed an egg, losing against Golubev in the year when they won it). On top of that Fed was the one that sealed it for Switzerland against Gasquet, despite of not being in best physical condition.

It is better if you do your Arizona stuff. Commenting on tennis is not for you.

 

[Bender]

I think the OG really is one of those things that doesn't blemish your career if you don't have it, but does enhance your career if you do have it.

 

[MeatTornado]

I think the OG really is one of those things that doesn't blemish your career if you don't have it, but does enhance your career if you do have it.

It's something that's baffling to me that we can't all agree on.

 

[Unaatennista]

I think difference between tennis and other sports at the Olympics is that winning an Olympic gold medal in swimming or gymnastics for example is most the prestigious/most sought after award that you could ever win. Whereas I think we could all agree that winning a slam is definitely more prestigious/more sought after in tennis. Similarly, I think almost any football player would prefer to win the World Cup over an Olympic Gold medal.

 

[Lleytonstation]

These days almost no thread can pass without the nonsense brigade (red ricks, slim shadies, rustys etc.) *****ing all over the place.

Anyway, @Lleytonstation , what is your point, since it is obvious that you didn't forget that HC is not Nadal's worst surface? Nadal's worst surface is grass, and that is not even debatable.

Other than that, if you look closely in the respective results, you will see how sensitive the results at the Olympics are to current form, which is actually one of the major criticisms towards the Olympic tennis competition. Nadal won his singles gold in arguably the best 5 months stretch of his career. The best you can say is that he prioritised that competition. However, if you look closely, that win might have cost him a finals appearance at the USO that year. Not many people talk about that, but that result against Murray at the 2008 USO is one of the most inexplicable losses in Nadal's career.

Just found it quite interesting as I really never thought about it before. You could also argue Fed gave away his chance at gold by winning Wimbledon months before on the same court. I am fine with that trade any day of the week and I am sure Fed is as well.

Don't think you can argue that his worst surface was grass in 08... he had zero slams on hard and 3 finals and a win on grass by then.

 

[I Am Finnish]

Olympics is an exho


- Fedr fans

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Just found it quite interesting as I really never thought about it before. You could also argue Fed gave away his chance at gold by winning Wimbledon months before on the same court. I am fine with that trade any day of the week and I am sure Fed is as well.

Don't think you can argue that his worst surface was grass in 08... he had zero slams on hard and 3 finals and a win on grass by then.

Federer didn't "give away" anything. He planned his form to peak for Wimbledon and so he did, and he won by beating the defending champion and then #1 in the world in the SF and another member of the "big 4" in the final. It was a monumental effort and the only reason why he stood in the final of the Olympics some time later was because he is an immense grass court player and despite of everything else. The fact that he did have the epic SF with Del Potro only made the things even more clear.

As for Nadal, he has proven which is his worst surface, so whatever he won along the way should be put in that context. The Olympic tournament is a best of 3 except for the final, and I think that Nadal was a little bit (well, a fair bit) more successful in that format on HC than he was on grass, even if you want to go down that road.

 

[MeatTornado]

You could also argue Fed gave away his chance at gold by winning Wimbledon months before on the same court.

Realistically you'd argue he gave it away by not finishing off Delpo quicker.

But then we wouldn't have @Federer and Del Potro, and who wants to live in that world?

 

[Mainad]

He'll get a chance at Orange Tennis in 2024.

*Orange tennis the name given to clay tennis by Sophia Murray

Imagine 37 year old Murray beating 38 year old Nadal ON CLAY at Roland Garros to win his 3rd OSG???

 

[Mainad]

Are people really interested in tennis at the Olympics? Or the Olympics in general?

I kind of getting it if you're into athletics, but it's really a novelty event for tennis, like Laver Cup.

Well, it's a novelty event that's been going for over 30 years!

 

[JasonZ]

Federer won the wtf 6 times, Djokovic and Sampras 5 times. Every other ATG won it except Wilander, some won it multiple times.

Nadal has zero. This is a huge hole in his resume, no olympic medal can fill it

 

[Mainad]

Federer won the wtf 6 times, Djokovic and Sampras 5 times. Every other ATG won it except Wilander, some won it multiple times.

The following multiple Slam winners, who were active post 1970 (when the YEC first took place), never won it:

Laver (runner up in 1970)
Rosewall (never made a final)
Emerson (never took part)
Newcombe (never made a final)
Kodes (never made a final)
Ashe (runner up in 1978)
Wilander (runner up in 1987)
Courier (runner up in 1991-2)
Kafelnikov (runner up in 1997)
Rafter (never made a final)
Safin (never made a final)
Nadal (runner up in 2010,2013)
Wawrinka (never made a final)

 

[ChrisRF]

Imagine 37 year old Murray beating 38 year old Nadal ON CLAY at Roland Garros to win his 3rd OSG???

Won’t happen for 2 reasons:

1) Murray already wins his third Gold in Tokyo, starting with a Wild Card.

2) Federer will beat Nadal at RG to win the Gold. Since he signed the contract for the season-opening China exhibition for the next 5 editions I know that this is the only possible end.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Rafa - legend!

Proves two things - Rafa is the GOAT and Murray is the Olympic GOAT

 

[UnderratedSlam]

Olympic gold only means something to whoever wins it. Kind of the way a kayak team wins it and nobody gives a hoot. For many tennis fans it is a bizarrely overrated event.

 

[I Am Finnish]

Are people really interested in tennis at the Olympics? Or the Olympics in general?

I kind of getting it if you're into athletics, but it's really a novelty event for tennis, like Laver Cup.

I in generally

 

[I Am Finnish]

Meanwhile thiem will choose kitzbuhel over the olympics