Solico Hyper G vs. Volkl Cyclone comparison

[donnayblack99]

I'm interested in the HYPER G- heard a lot of good things. I play with a flexy stick and use Volkl Cyclone 17G or 18G, but I'm looking to try something new. I heard Agassi is now using Solinco HYPER G and supposedly it has awesome control while not being too stiff... I'd love some feed back!

 

[Rabbit]

It's one of the easier polys to string up, I can tell you that. Been stringing this week at a WTA event and one of them uses Hyper G. It's not hard to string at all. It kind of reminds me of Yonex's poly.

 

[JBH]

IME -

Spin level is similar, high but not extreme.
Power Hyper g is higher. It's similar to Cyclone Tour.
Control is similar.
Feel is different. Hyper g is softer but not less. Cyclone is plasticy , which isn't a word...
Arm friendliness Hyper g wins over pretty much any poly. If you can't use hyper g...
Play duration if not tension maintenance, hyper g wins. It increases in power as it ages.
Hyper g is very green.

 

[skydog]

I have been using 18g Hyper G in a hybrid in the same racquet I have been using 17g Cyclone (both orange and yellow) hybrid and have found myself preferring the Hyper G. I would agree that the spin level is similar, but Hyper G is more comfortable, a bit more powerful, and tension maintenance is definitely better. Using an ERT 300, my dynamic tension in a racquet played approximately 14 hours is showing the same dynamic tension as a racquet played 1.5 hours. Additionally, I have found Hyper G to provide a more consistent response from right off the stringer into 14 hours of play (most time I have on one of my three racquets strung up with Hyper G, testing cross strings so the racquets are in a rotation). Control is there with both strings, but I have found Hyper G to open up the sweet spot a bit more and have found better control on off center hits vs Cyclone. In the end, I have found that I definitely prefer Hyper G over Cyclone and will most likely be purchasing a reel once my packs disappear.

 

[Roland G]

I have been using 18g Hyper G in a hybrid in the same racquet I have been using 17g Cyclone (both orange and yellow) hybrid and have found myself preferring the Hyper G. I would agree that the spin level is similar, but Hyper G is more comfortable, a bit more powerful, and tension maintenance is definitely better. Using an ERT 300, my dynamic tension in a racquet played approximately 14 hours is showing the same dynamic tension as a racquet played 1.5 hours. Additionally, I have found Hyper G to provide a more consistent response from right off the stringer into 14 hours of play (most time I have on one of my three racquets strung up with Hyper G, testing cross strings so the racquets are in a rotation). Control is there with both strings, but I have found Hyper G to open up the sweet spot a bit more and have found better control on off center hits vs Cyclone. In the end, I have found that I definitely prefer Hyper G over Cyclone and will most likely be purchasing a reel once my packs disappear.

Can I ask what frame, tension and cross string you are using with your Hyper G?

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[skydog]

Can I ask what frame, tension and cross string you are using with your Hyper G?

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Frame: Pro Kennex Q-Tour 325 (modded to 366g strung)
Tension: 55 lbs in mains
Cross: Babolat Spiraltek (black, yellow, blue) @ 60lbs

 

[Blade0324]

I've tried both out and I much prefer the Cyclone. Hyper G is a good string when brand new but I feel get's too powerful and looses tension as well as starts moving around quite a bit. I have only been able to get about 3-4 sets from Hyper G before it's toast. Cyclone usually I can get 6-8 sets out of unless it breaks. If I could string up fresh every time I play Hyper G would be good but still not the best option for me.

 

[Deleted member 19728]

I'm interested in the HYPER G- heard a lot of good things. I play with a flexy stick and use Volkl Cyclone 17G or 18G, but I'm looking to try something new. I heard Agassi is now using Solinco HYPER G and supposedly it has awesome control while not being too stiff... I'd love some feed back!

I watched Agassi play on Friday night using hyper G over at UIC. Looked like he was using a blacked out POG of some variety due to the stabilizer in the throat. He hit about ten shots in the warm up and switched to a different stick, guessing the tension wasn't to his liking. I like Hyper G, but it bags out pretty quick and really becomes trampoline like when it dies. I will say I have never played with a more resistant string to notching. It was pretty impressive in that department. I think Cyclone lasts a little longer and is more playable towards the end. If you don't break strings as often or leave them in for longer, I would hit the cyclone. Hyper G is really nice when it is doing its thing, but pretty horrible when it dies.

 

[teekaywhy]

Hyper G is a softer version of Tour Bite Soft. Same level of spin (fantastic) same level of power (decent).
I use it in a hybrid with Yonex Poly Fire or in a full bed. Love it. Seems to hold tension, or at least not become a rocket launcher, a little longer than STB.

 

[PJGtennis]

I recently starting using 17g Hyper-G instead of 17g Cyclone. They were both strung at usually 51 pounds in a Head Youtek Graphene speed pro 18/20. The biggest difference for me was the feel of the two. Cyclone has a slighitly stiffer and deader feel while Hyper-G feels softer and has better ball pocketing in my opinion.In the power department they are both low powered but I got more pop from hyper-G witch can be a good thing or bad thing for some people. I felt like I got a little more control and a little better spin from hyper-G but that being said they are both very similar. Lastly Cyclone has slightly better tension maintenance and durability. Honestly I would give both a try especially if your string your own racquets its only about $20 to try both and I think they are both worth the buy.

 

[topspn]

None! Hyper G is far better string in every aspect

 

[Tennisfan212]

Tried out Hyper G 16g yesterday for the first time and absolutely loved it !!
Tension:54

 

[ThirdEye]

Hyper G is like 10 times better than Cyclone. Seriously, they're not even in the same league.

 

[dimkin]

Tried out Hyper G 16g yesterday for the first time and absolutely loved it !!
Tension:54

your buddy is a really good player ... 5.0?

What do you like about Hyper-G?

 

[Roland G]

Hyper G is like 10 times better than Cyclone. Seriously, they're not even in the same league.

Can I ask how you arrived at that conclusion?

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[warney]

Tried out Hyper G 16g yesterday for the first time and absolutely loved it !!
Tension:54

What racquet/string does your buddy use? That is real good thumping sound from his shots!!

 

[Nostradamus]

IME -

Spin level is similar, high but not extreme.
Power Hyper g is higher. It's similar to Cyclone Tour.
Control is similar.
Feel is different. Hyper g is softer but not less. Cyclone is plasticy , which isn't a word...
Arm friendliness Hyper g wins over pretty much any poly. If you can't use hyper g...
Play duration if not tension maintenance, hyper g wins. It increases in power as it ages.
Hyper g is very green.

yes, this is pretty accurate description. I liked the Hyper G but I thought it was bit harsh on the shoulders. I also didn't like the feel of Hyper G. it is just kind of like Paper, little feedback from the ball. I prefer Tourbite soft out of all 3 of these.

 

[Tennisfan212]

What racquet/string does your buddy use? That is real good thumping sound from his shots!!

He uses Tecnifibre Tfight 325 and not sure about the string, i think he said RPM but not 100% sure

 

[Tennisfan212]

your buddy is a really good player ... 5.0?

What do you like about Hyper-G?

Yes he is super good, he used to play lot of local tournaments in korea and played for his university. He is probably a strong 5.0 or 5.5. I like Hyper G the most because it doesn't break as fast my other strings probably because I'm using 16 gauge right now for Hyper G. It feels so crisp at the impact, very controlled string yet you still get plenty of power. I mean if you ask me what I like about Hyper G, I like everything about it ! )

 

[Tennisfan212]

Guys this is non related to this thread but since some of you guys have seen my videos here, i would like to ask here. So my buddy suggested me to watch Rick Macci's instructional video for modern forehand. And there he explains why racquet should be up as well as the elbow further away from the body the better. Like elevating the elbow, this would let you extending forward at the impact. So i recently tried to do this, my elbow used to be way tucked in during the take back, now i try to have it away from my body and have it up. I can somewhat feel the difference that i drive the ball little bit more with forward momentum. Then I searched pros, and some have it away and some have it really close to the body especially Nishikori so I really don't know which is really the proper technique for take back. Does anyone have any opinions on this?
One last thing, i tend to drop my racquet head way too below the ball, do you agree? should i not drop so much ?

 

[pfrischmann]

Guys this is non related to this thread but since some of you guys have seen my videos here, i would like to ask here. So my buddy suggested me to watch Rick Macci's instructional video for modern forehand. And there he explains why racquet should be up as well as the elbow further away from the body the better. Like elevating the elbow, this would let you extending forward at the impact. So i recently tried to do this, my elbow used to be way tucked in during the take back, now i try to have it away from my body and have it up. I can somewhat feel the difference that i drive the ball little bit more with forward momentum. Then I searched pros, and some have it away and some have it really close to the body especially Nishikori so I really don't know which is really the proper technique for take back. Does anyone have any opinions on this?
One last thing, i tend to drop my racquet head way too below the ball, do you agree? should i not drop so much ?

I think this is all dependent on the ball you want to hit. There are a lot of ways to get to the end. The important thing IMHO is understanding how these components work. I took a course on hitting a "federer" forehand and could'nt figure out where all of my top-spin went. I realized I was hitting the ball a little lower than I was used to and had a much more direct (linear) path to the ball. Once I figured that out, I can do all sorts of variations. The process of getting there was a really good education for me.

The few things that jumped out to me on your forehand was that You are standing pretty tall during the loading phase and your off hand wanders a bit. Getting a little lower and getting that off hand more in the direction of the side-fence will help get a little more pop. You have a pause right after your racquet drop, which could also be robbing you of power. You finish your stroke often with your body parallel to the net instead of your chest pointing more towards the side fence or net post..More arm than body. Your friend does this last one really well.

I only see this because I am obsessed with changing this part of my own forehand. Mine did/does look like yours.

John Yandell has an amazing video on facebook breaking down certain components of the modern forehand. I think he and Rick Macci are buddies. They may be similar. I learned a ton watching John's breakdown FWIW.

 

[Tennisfan212]

I think this is all dependent on the ball you want to hit. There are a lot of ways to get to the end. The important thing IMHO is understanding how these components work. I took a course on hitting a "federer" forehand and could'nt figure out where all of my top-spin went. I realized I was hitting the ball a little lower than I was used to and had a much more direct (linear) path to the ball. Once I figured that out, I can do all sorts of variations. The process of getting there was a really good education for me.

The few things that jumped out to me on your forehand was that You are standing pretty tall during the loading phase and your off hand wanders a bit. Getting a little lower and getting that off hand more in the direction of the side-fence will help get a little more pop. You have a pause right after your racquet drop, which could also be robbing you of power. You finish your stroke often with your body parallel to the net instead of your chest pointing more towards the side fence or net post..More arm than body. Your friend does this last one really well.

I only see this because I am obsessed with changing this part of my own forehand. Mine did/does look like yours.

John Yandell has an amazing video on facebook breaking down certain components of the modern forehand. I think he and Rick Macci are buddies. They may be similar. I learned a ton watching John's breakdown FWIW.

I am going to check that Yandell's video for sure, thank you for that
quick question for you though, would you say putting the elbow elevated and having the elbow away from the body,, which of these are more important element do you think? I mean if you had to pick one?

 

[pfrischmann]

Yandell goes through this but it depends on your grip. According to him, the more extreme your grip, the more that elbow is going to tuck in and the less you are going to be able to reach out or extend through the ball. If you look at the top players, their unit turn is very similar. the racquet is taken back with their hand pretty close to shoulder height or a little below. Then it's just a drop with the arm pointing to the corner fence (not behind them), activate feet,legs,hips and let it go.

There's some good you tube of Rafa,Fed, Verdasco and Djokovic . Their fundamentals are very similar.

 

[dimkin]

Yandell goes through this but it depends on your grip. According to him, the more extreme your grip, the more that elbow is going to tuck in and the less you are going to be able to reach out or extend through the ball. If you look at the top players, their unit turn is very similar. the racquet is taken back with their hand pretty close to shoulder height or a little below. Then it's just a drop with the arm pointing to the corner fence (not behind them), activate feet,legs,hips and let it go.

There's some good you tube of Rafa,Fed, Verdasco and Djokovic . Their fundamentals are very similar.

Rafa, Fed, Verdasco - all straight arm ...
Novak ... bent but not extremely . . .

 

[pfrischmann]

yes, and Yandell points this out. I got the impression TennisFan 212 was focusing on the unit turn and racquet drop.

 

[deth]

I'm interested in the HYPER G- heard a lot of good things. I play with a flexy stick and use Volkl Cyclone 17G or 18G, but I'm looking to try something new. I heard Agassi is now using Solinco HYPER G and supposedly it has awesome control while not being too stiff... I'd love some feed back!

I have used both in multiple setups. I've used both in a full bed in all 4 of my PS 95s 2014 and also in hybrids with Prince Synthetic w/Duraflex in the crosses. I've found in my experience in direct comparison with all gauge and tensions being equal. The hyper g's tension lasts longer. Spin with the hyper g in the hybrid w/the Duraflex prince synthetic is better than the cyclone with the same hybrid combo. However I found a full bed of cyclone seems to bite more than a full bed of hyper g. Overall hyper g is more forgiving on the arm. And cyclone tends to break much faster than hyper g. However because my 95s is a super open string pattern (16x15) it eats string at an alarming rate. Depending if I really hit with all the power and spin I could possibly use, hyper g would last roughly 9 to 10 hrs at 16G and cyclone at the same gauge lasts roughly 1 to 2 hours less. I've really enjoyed hyper g and synthetic Duraflex hybrid.

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[DJTaurus]

I don't like cyclone but oh boy hyper g is a lot worse. Very plastically feel like msv focus hex and too stiff for the arm. Mediocre feel, good spin and power. It doesn't deserves the hype it gets. Tour byte and Tour byte soft are superior strings to me. Hyper g is better for fishing wire not for tennis stringing.

 

[Tennisfan212]

Guys I have a video of me trying out new forehand with elbow up and away during the back swing, from 3:30 on you can see from the video i really tried to exaggerate the elbow separation from my body and i feel like i was hitting a lot better. Please check it out and let me know what you all think of my new forehand.
I also had to prepare super early since i am taking it high back i didn't want to be late on my shots
I am going to keep this swing, since I'm taking it high my racquet head doesn't drop quite as much , that used to be one of my biggest problems(racquet head being dropped way too below the ball) I noticed I was also able to drive forward more. overall i like it better than my previous forehand

 

[Brokenstrings]

I really like both strings. Hyper G is definitely softer and seems to hold better tension. I think Cyclone gives you a little more spin.

 

[Gus Dog]

I was hitting Cyclone V-Torque for mains crossed with regular cyclone and loved it. A friend suggested trying Hyper-G. I strung it up in the mains with the Cyclone crosses. It has less spin but a little better control. It lasts longer and holds tension longer. I'm an old 4.0 so for me it doesn't really matter. My son's a state high school champion and hits big. He prefers the V-Torque combination to the Hyper-G, but he wears through it in just a few sets. I haven't hit all Cyclone or all Hyper-G, but the men's D1 tennis team in my town prefers Hyper-G.

 

[Tennisfan212]

 

[Nostradamus]

PURE greatness of Solinco Hyper G.... Sam Querry beat Novak the #1 player in Wimbledon today with it