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It says "new user" next to my name. Does it not?You're new here aren't ya
The Cult of PT57
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El_Yotamo
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Yes, but you never know as the title given is based on amounts of posts/replies and not on the amount of time spent or the amount of understanding
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Just a simple tennis lover trying to learn mate.
BounceHitBounceHit
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Yes it is indeed! I’ve stockpiled several and extended to 27.25. Serving bombs with B.B. Ace 18 @ 44#. [emoji462][emoji471][emoji462]
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vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Why did you black out the beautiful cosmetics of the Radical Tour TwinTube 630?
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
My opinion is absolutely the Austrian made PT57A have Twaron. On the China PT57A I don't know. All I know is that they play and feel like they should and thats all that matters to me.
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El_Yotamo
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Right, and that's good
BounceHitBounceHit
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vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Not Wilson butt-caps!! NooooooooI hang my head in shame. Wilson pallets and butt caps too.
BounceHitBounceHit
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vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Psychologically you just need that Wilson butt-cap
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Agreed. Mostly it’s the Wilson pallet/grip shape!! [emoji106][emoji56][emoji106]
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My PT57A in Liquidmetal PJ (it doesn't have PT code visible on the hairpin) is more flexible than my most flexible PT630. I have several variations of PT630. I didn't make any RDC measuments.
Hmgraphite1
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I'm wondering if the square er shape might be better for my one hand bh? But you use 2 hander, no?
BounceHitBounceHit
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One hander for the win!!!!
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Hmgraphite1
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So is that the shot you feel the pallet change is most important? Or other, all
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Another re-release of the Agassi Radical Tour 690? Eww. What a shame. Anyone else feel the same way? Flex 64 compared to Flex 53 on the old version, made in China, and no Twaron. At this rate let's hope we don't see a re-release of the Pro Tour 630 if this is what they do.
rafa_prestige89
Professional
They would probably release the Pro Tour 630 with the Flexpoint Prestige mold and 70 RA flex.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
The truly sad thing is, HEAD makes the Radical Tour 690 (Bumblebee) for Agassi and Sergio Casal. HEAD has the ability, the mold, and materials to make the racquets but they choose not to. you have to ask why can't they do the right thing? To me this 25th anniversary Radical has absolutely no value because its not a real Radical Tour 690 (Trisys 260 Bumblebee). They had a great idea but once again failed on execution.
Amazing how HEAD can do it for their Pros but can't for us with money in our hand. They will sell those fake racquets to Agassi fans and people that don't know any better.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
The truly sad thing is, HEAD makes the Radical Tour 690 (Bumblebee) for Agassi and Sergio Casal. HEAD has the ability, the mold, and materials to make the racquets but they choose not to. you have to ask why can't they do the right thing? To me this 25th anniversary Radical has absolutely no value because its not a real Radical Tour 690 (Trisys 260 Bumblebee). They had a great idea but once again failed on execution.
Amazing how HEAD can do it for their Pros but can't for us with money in our hand. They will sell those fake racquets to Agassi fans and people that don't know any better.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Is this your daily driver?RTZMPXL
moon shot
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It’s looking that way. The TXP is wonderful when I am on but I fall off so easy. The candy cane radical With cap grommets is my fallback.
I have no complaints.
rafa_prestige89
Professional
How do you compare it to the i.Prestige MP?
moon shot
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Which frame, TXP, Radical XL Zebra, or Radical Candycane?
Imago
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RTZMPXL
Wow, vedi questa bellezza e muore!
rafa_prestige89
Professional
Radical Zebra and Candycane.
moon shot
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My Zebra is possibly a bit high on swingweight and my Candycane is possibly a bit low.
Comparing standard length:
The Z is quite a bit more powerful than than either of the other two. When they are all capped it feels in the middle for stiffness. The Z feels more like a attacking frame out of the bunch, not that it couldn’t suit a wide variety of styles. Capped mine is 362g 32.5cm 356sw. The balance is more forward than common for me so that contributes to my feelings.
The CC even when capped is the softest of the bunch. It feels fantastically even balanced in power, control, and maneuverability. Mine is 361g 32cm 340sw which is still slightly forward and a dab low on SW.
My I.prestige are somewhat of an enigma to me. I really wanted one after high school but never hit with it until two years ago. Mine is 353g 31.2cm 338sw which is lower and less than I prefer all around. The i does seem to have more balance and poise than the others but due to being so headlight it’s feels resistant to making the big shots with my natural strokes. Also due to its relatively lower power it is the most maneuverable and controlling of the bunch.
All that makes me want to sit down and match the balance and swingweight (-1in) to my XL. My Radical Tour Zebra MP XL seen above was a willing partner for doubles last night. I was connecting on volleys more than usual, had a ace get stuck in the chain link despite the wind screen. I think I like the XL and other heavy and high swingweight frames because they preclude the possibility of thrashy strokes, I have to plan and move fluidly. I also get a kick out of being a 3.5 servebot in my city doubles league.
daddabompa
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Find the difference... [emoji12][emoji28]
PT630Wannabe
Professional
Find the difference... [emoji12][emoji28]
It looks like Tommy's PT630 is slightly more head heavy.
Cup8489
G.O.A.T.
So tonight while out playing, I decided to pull out this old beat up Flexpoint Prestige MP that I'd gotten in a facebook swap for 20 bucks. I'd strung it up a while back with Prince Duraflex 17 around 60 lbs, but never pulled it out from storage to play with. I'd also installed a TW leather and a pro overgrip to keep it tacky, but other than that no modification.
Long story short, I felt the 'honeymoon' effect for the first time in years... and felt like I could put the ball where I wanted to (within reason). Volleys felt good and precise, the returns were great, the serve was inch-perfect, and I just felt like the frame was an extension of my arm.
My question is this: Should I consider tracking down a pair of PT57's and take the plunge, or should I stick to using this old frame for the time being? In other words, is the PT57 line a more "prestige" prestige? The scalpel like feeling and control was intoxicating.. I want to go back out and play more. I can't imagine how good it would feel with a full bed of Gut (my go-to these days)
Long story short, I felt the 'honeymoon' effect for the first time in years... and felt like I could put the ball where I wanted to (within reason). Volleys felt good and precise, the returns were great, the serve was inch-perfect, and I just felt like the frame was an extension of my arm.
My question is this: Should I consider tracking down a pair of PT57's and take the plunge, or should I stick to using this old frame for the time being? In other words, is the PT57 line a more "prestige" prestige? The scalpel like feeling and control was intoxicating.. I want to go back out and play more. I can't imagine how good it would feel with a full bed of Gut (my go-to these days)
OjoLOCO
New User
I have asked myself the same question many times, but I keep playing better and better with the FXP Prestige MP. I would love to dabble with more heralded sticks (e.g. PT57A), but I feel (regularly) what you just felt in the FXP Prestige MP. It's damn good almost everywhere on the court.
daddabompa
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Difficult to say by this pic, but it seems Daniele Bracciali still plays with his trusty PT57A [emoji6]
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
I wouldn't think he would switch. Its either PT57A or TGT293.2Difficult to say by this pic, but it seems Daniele Bracciali still plays with his trusty PT57A [emoji6]
daddabompa
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Alexandre Bryson
New User
Changing handle pallets on my PT57E's... Will also do a new string job. Been rocking Luxilon 4g rough and Prince Syn gut but looking for something new.
Any recommendations?
Any recommendations?
djNEiGht
Legend
What size pallets are you removing? I'm looking for some L3 pallets/butt caps
In my iPrestige I liked hitting with Tier1 T1 Firewire or Strike Force Rip int he mains and crossed with a smooth cross like Isospeed Baseline
In my YT Prestige i recently hit with Laser Fiber Native Tour
Those are a couple poly recommendations that I have recently enjoyed.
Alexandre Bryson
New User
I'm moving the pallets from TK82 to the TK82s pallets. Prefer a rounder shape. I've ordered Solinco Tour Bite Diamond Rough 16L. Going to string them right down at 44 or 45 and see how they play and then i'll try your recommendations.
djNEiGht
Legend
45-48 CP seems to be my happy spot for the various MP racquets. Is TB Diamond Rough just like TB with additional texture?
If your TK82 pallets happen to be 4 3/8 LMK if you are looking to part with them
Alexandre Bryson
New User
Mine are 4 3/8 however they are the standard Prestige grip pallet. Classic head grip (not speed grip). I've never heard of LMK?
Alexandre Bryson
New User
Yeah! They are also a lot softer in feel than standard TB diamond rough. Used them once in my dunlops. Very soft and plush feeling with good spin potential. They were strung at 50 in that racket (16/19 pattern)
djNEiGht
Legend
LMK is short for Let Me Know. I have an eye out for the standard TK82 pallets
cheers
Alexandre Bryson
New User
It may be a cheaper option for you to buy a new set from this site https://www.racquetdepot.co.uk/head-tennis-grip-pallet-tk82/ This is where i picked up my TK82s pallets. I doubt the pallets from my i.prestiges will be in any good condition once im done with them (i've never replaced pallets before but seems easy enough).LMK is short for Let Me Know. I have an eye out for the standard TK82 pallets
cheers
Hmgraphite1
Hall of Fame
Is there a thread on doing pallets, I might try changing one but jot sure how?
djNEiGht
Legend
I'm not sure...
Tools needed
*heat gun (hair dryer might work)
*long thin standard/flat screw driver
*thin strong tool like a knife
*needle nose pliers
*staple gun (or small gauge nails)
*double sided sticky tape
Removal
1) remove grip and as much adhesive on the pallet
2) using needle nose pliers, remove the staples from the butt cap and slide cap off
3) aim heat gun at pallet and keep the pallet moving around. aim heat gun at bottom to enter handle/hair pin
***try not to heat up one area for too long. It may warp the pallet that is being removed
4) with the thin strong tool that is knife like, place between the crack between the two pallets and wiggle. Switch to the other side
5) try and pull pallet off by hand. If it doesn't come off use the screw driver from the bottom and wedge between racquet and pallet. Insert slowly as far up. During this process, check if the pallet can be removed by hand.
***During steps 4-5, apply heat gun as needed.
6) clean off adhesive from racquet
***take a picture of the product code on the handle and any other identifying marks and post in this thread
7) inspect pallet removed and if it is warped, slightly heat and then put both sides together and put a warp of tape to help them keep shape while cooling. Save for another racquet or me
Install
1) Check that the racquet is clean and free of old adhesive
2) Place new pallet on hairpin/racquet to check the length. Cut as necessary to be flush with bottom of the racquet
***I've installed a couple short pallets and just made it flush with the bottom. It was short by about 1 cm from the top
3) remove pallet and put single layers lengthwise along racquet. I am able to put two strips on the string side and one strip on the grommet side.
4) place pallet on and give it a good squeeze to help the adhesive secure to the pallet and racquet.
***I've wrapped a couple layers of tape around the pallet and let it sit for an hour or more to hold pallet. This is something I do if the pallet I'm placing is warped. I have also used 3M spray adhesive or a thin nail but that was just a couple times. I've seen Angell racquets with nails through it to secure pallet.
5) Place butt cap on the bottom and secure with staple gun. Thin nail has also been used when staple gun unavailable.
I'll be doing a pallet change soon and I'll take some pictures.
Hmgraphite1
Hall of Fame
Thanks, good description, yeah pictures would be cool, what are "single layers" and "one strip" "two strip"?I'm not sure...
Tools needed
*heat gun (hair dryer might work)
*long thin standard/flat screw driver
*thin strong tool like a knife
*needle nose pliers
*staple gun (or small gauge nails)
*double sided sticky tape
Removal
1) remove grip and as much adhesive on the pallet
2) using needle nose pliers, remove the staples from the butt cap and slide cap off
3) aim heat gun at pallet and keep the pallet moving around. aim heat gun at bottom to enter handle/hair pin
***try not to heat up one area for too long. It may warp the pallet that is being removed
4) with the thin strong tool that is knife like, place between the crack between the two pallets and wiggle. Switch to the other side
5) try and pull pallet off by hand. If it doesn't come off use the screw driver from the bottom and wedge between racquet and pallet. Insert slowly as far up. During this process, check if the pallet can be removed by hand.
***During steps 4-5, apply heat gun as needed.
6) clean off adhesive from racquet
***take a picture of the product code on the handle and any other identifying marks and post in this thread
7) inspect pallet removed and if it is warped, slightly heat and then put both sides together and put a warp of tape to help them keep shape while cooling. Save for another racquet or me
Install
1) Check that the racquet is clean and free of old adhesive
2) Place new pallet on hairpin/racquet to check the length. Cut as necessary to be flush with bottom of the racquet
***I've installed a couple short pallets and just made it flush with the bottom. It was short by about 1 cm from the top
3) remove pallet and put single layers lengthwise along racquet. I am able to put two strips on the string side and one strip on the grommet side.
4) place pallet on and give it a good squeeze to help the adhesive secure to the pallet and racquet.
***I've wrapped a couple layers of tape around the pallet and let it sit for an hour or more to hold pallet. This is something I do if the pallet I'm placing is warped. I have also used 3M spray adhesive or a thin nail but that was just a couple times. I've seen Angell racquets with nails through it to secure pallet.
5) Place butt cap on the bottom and secure with staple gun. Thin nail has also been used when staple gun unavailable.
I'll be doing a pallet change soon and I'll take some pictures.
