*****THE OFFICIAL HEAD PRO TOUR 630/280 Club*************

[vsbabolat]

Hi!

Does anybody see a pro tour with more blue paint like this? Is this a real pro tour? I saw it in a classifield site so i haven't got another or higher res pic. Btw it is sold.

Never saw that before. Now Trisys was a made up marketing name HEAD used for the USA market from 1993-96. In the USA the Pro Tour 630 was called the Pro Tour 280 with Trisys system written underneath. Just google Pro Tour 280 and you will see the photos.
Could be prototype.......

 

[kingadam1985]

Never saw that before. Now Trisys was a made up marketing name HEAD used for the USA market from 1993-96. In the USA the Pro Tour 630 was called the Pro Tour 280 with Trisys system written underneath. Just google Pro Tour 280 and you will see the photos.
Could be prototype.......

I know the Trisys 280 but never saw Trisys 630.
I don't think this is prototype because i already saw 2 ads almost in the same time in Europe.

 

[vsbabolat]

I know the Trisys 280 but never saw Trysis 630.
I don't think this is prototype because i already saw 2 ads almost in the same time in Europe.

When did you see these ads?

 

[kingadam1985]

When did you see these ads?

About 2-3 weeks ago. I missed both.

 

[vsbabolat]

About 2-3 weeks ago. I missed both.

I'm still going with prototypes or SMU for a department store in Europe. I have never heard of Trisys Pro 630.

 

[kingadam1985]

I'm still going with prototypes or SMU for a department store in Europe. I have never heard of Trisys Pro 630.

I will try to catch one to take a look at closer.

 

[Phantasm]

Getting my first PT630 this week. After reading through all the love the racket gets here and other places, I finally gave in to the temptation and picked one up from the auction site.

I hit with a MG Radical MP weighted to 350~g 7-8pt HL right now. Looking forward to try hitting with it and see how it feels.

 

[lemintz]

Getting my first PT630 this week. After reading through all the love the racket gets here and other places, I finally gave in to the temptation and picked one up from the auction site.

I hit with a MG Radical MP weighted to 350~g 7-8pt HL right now. Looking forward to try hitting with it and see how it feels.

You're gonna love it if you're coming from a customized/weighted MG Rad and you'll never look back. Enjoy it!!

 

[edelp]

you will love it for sure.

Just, for the first time, changed the bumpers on mine and put a short one. Very light "57a" now. Really nice as well. And I have a 57a with same weight now but capped. Will compare...
One question: was the first pt630 capped or non-capped?

Thanks

 

[Phantasm]

you will love it for sure.

Just, for the first time, changed the bumpers on mine and put a short one. Very light "57a" now. Really nice as well. And I have a 57a with same weight now but capped. Will compare...
One question: was the first pt630 capped or non-capped?

Thanks

I thought the first generation PT630s were non-capped and they came out with CAPPed version with the StarTrek Font? I'm sure the more knowledgable members will chime in with more accurate info

 

[vsbabolat]

Thats correct when the Pro Tour 630 first came out it did not have CAP system grommets.

 

[Phantasm]

So got my 630 today!

It says Made in Austria right above the grip of the racket but no Head Barcode Label text on the beam. Do some of the MIA models not have the Head Barcode Label text on them?

 

[vsbabolat]

So got my 630 today!

It says Made in Austria right above the grip of the racket but no Head Barcode Label text on the beam. Do some of the MIA models not have the Head Barcode Label text on them?

Some had an actual white barcode label on them that came off during that passage of time.

 

[Phantasm]

Some had an actual white barcode label on them that came off during that passage of time.

Your racquet knowledge is a blessing.

 

[BorgCash]

Well my friend had two mint Chinese PT280's and I hit with them today. Wow. He had brought them out of storage for me to use as I wanted to compare them to my PT630. I liked the PT280's a lot more. Felt more solid, more maneuverable and much easier to serve with. Upon inspection when I got home, I found 10 grams of lead under the leather grip of the PT280. Modded static weight was 13.2. My PT630 with just the leather grip was 12.4. So the difference in playability was definitely because of the additional weight. I had previously owned two PT630's and eventually sold them as I had found them plush but sluggish for me to swing. I never would have thought that adding so much lead in addition to the leather grip would make it that much easier to hit with. I'm well aware of the effect of hl balance but I'm surprised that increasing the static weight to 13.2 ounces wouldn't have a negative effect. Of course it helps the PT280 and PT630's have fairly thin beams to aid in maneuverability.

Cool dampeners you have on yours! I'm not mention that these are in my list of the best ever racquets were made.

 

[Pmasterfunk]

Some had an actual white barcode label on them that came off during that passage of time.

Mine has the barcode sticker still on, but it's completely washed out.

 

[vsbabolat]

Mine has the barcode sticker still on, but it's completely washed out.

So does one of mine.

 

[Phantasm]

What weight/specs are all you using?

The specs one mine were 365g/ 7pts HL. 2.5g each 3/9 and 4 grams at 12 o clock. 2 Grams under Head Finest Calfskin to counteract all that hoop weight. It felt nice on my 2h backhands but everything else seemed so sluggish with all the weight in the head...

I took all the lead off of 12 and under the grip to try to get rid of the sluggish feeling but ended becoming 10-11 pts HL and was too little plow, so added 2 grams back @ 12 to get it a bit less head light...

Now its at 360gm and about 9 pts HL. Haven't tested it out yet. It currently has Technifibre Black Code 18 in it which I've never hit with before now. May need to try a string setup with a bit more power?

I guess the leather grip is adding a fair amount of weight and having a 18g string making it more head light than what I usually prefer...Still gotta tweak to get a setup that I feel real comfortable with.

Any input would be great!

 

[asifallasleep]

What weight/specs are all you using?

The specs one mine were 365g/ 7pts HL. 2.5g each 3/9 and 4 grams at 12 o clock. 2 Grams under Head Finest Calfskin to counteract all that hoop weight. It felt nice on my 2h backhands but everything else seemed so sluggish with all the weight in the head...

I took all the lead off of 12 and under the grip to try to get rid of the sluggish feeling but ended becoming 10-11 pts HL and was too little plow, so added 2 grams back @ 12 to get it a bit less head light...

Now its at 360gm and about 9 pts HL. Haven't tested it out yet. It currently has Technifibre Black Code 18 in it which I've never hit with before now. May need to try a string setup with a bit more power?

I guess the leather grip is adding a fair amount of weight and having a 18g string making it more head light than what I usually prefer...Still gotta tweak to get a setup that I feel real comfortable with.

Any input would be great!

Is your frame cap or non-cap?
cap version is a lot heavier and head heavy. you can remove the cap grommets and replace them with regular grommets btw.
Mine are non capped and I replaced the leather grip with a Bab skin grip.

12.6 oz (356 grams)(8pts hl) - 4 grams of lead under grip to match specs of 2nd frame
12.6 oz (356 grams)(8pts hl)

I originally was using it with a leather grip and a bunch of lead under the grips. Now i prefer them with the Bab skin feel grips and no lead except as modded for the one frame to match specs.

360 and 9pts hl sounds pretty good. IDK what your string tension is, but i'd suggest 40lbs to get some nice power.

 

[Phantasm]

Is your frame cap or non-cap?
cap version is a lot heavier and head heavy. you can remove the cap grommets and replace them with regular grommets btw.
Mine are non capped and I replaced the leather grip with a Bab skin grip.

12.6 oz (356 grams)(8pts hl) - 4 grams of lead under grip to match specs of 2nd frame
12.6 oz (356 grams)(8pts hl)

I originally was using it with a leather grip and a bunch of lead under the grips. Now i prefer them with the Bab skin feel grips and no lead except as modded for the one frame to match specs.

360 and 9pts hl sounds pretty good. IDK what your string tension is, but i'd suggest 40lbs to get some nice power.

Mine is Non CAP with the YT Radical Teflon grommets. Not too sure what the string tension but guessing mid/high 40s or low 50s.

From your pics it looks like that is the weight with OG and dampener and no lead? What strings are you using if I may ask?

My MG Radical that I was using right before this was 350grams 8pts HL, so I'm slowly reducing weight to see what weight I can handle on the PT.

 

[asifallasleep]

Mine is Non CAP with the YT Radical Teflon grommets. Not too sure what the string tension but guessing mid/high 40s or low 50s.

From your pics it looks like that is the weight with OG and dampener and no lead? What strings are you using if I may ask?

My MG Radical that I was using right before this was 350grams 8pts HL, so I'm slowly reducing weight to see what weight I can handle on the PT.

biphase 16g. try a bab skin feel grip to lower the weight more.

 

[Phantasm]

Just checked the grip thread to check the weight differences.

Heads Finest Calfskin is about 29g installed and skin feel about 14g...15g differece wow...Didn't realize it'd be that much. I'll definitely consider investing in one.

Hit with the 360g 9pts HL setup today. Groundstrokes felt a lot better and I could generate more head speed. I think I still served better with my Radicals and its specs when comparing the two today to see which felt better. So I'll definitely consider dropping more weight after hitting once or twice more this week.

Also considering putting in a gut hybrid w/ a set of Cyclone tour I have sitting around.

the quest continues...

 

[Phantasm]

@asifallasleep
Have you noticed your PT280 being heavier than your 630?

I got a MIA PT280 to back up my 630 and I have 6 grams under the Babolat Syntec Pro it came with and I'm only at 5pts HL 356 grams with 17g Tour Bite. I'm trying to get to around your spec 7-8 pts HL around this 350-355 weight range. Maybe switching to an 18g string will lessen weight in the head by a bit...Struggling to get there though... @_@

 

[asifallasleep]

@asifallasleep
Have you noticed your PT280 being heavier than your 630?

I got a MIA PT280 to back up my 630 and I have 6 grams under the Babolat Syntec Pro it came with and I'm only at 5pts HL 356 grams with 17g Tour Bite. I'm trying to get to around your spec 7-8 pts HL around this 350-355 weight range. Maybe switching to an 18g string will lessen weight in the head by a bit...Struggling to get there though... @_@

My PT280's are Made in China and they are little heavier. I don't know if the Made in Austria 280's are usually heavier than the Made in Austria 630's.
Your specs are pretty close, switching to the 18g would def get you even closer. I must admit I've been mainly using my RF97's these days and playing great. My constant racquet changing is bad for my game!!!

 

[Backhanded Compliment]

So does one of mine.

somebody has to make that barcode into a t shirt or sweat bands. ...ohh wait but if they sold really well you'd think they would release the frame

 

[Phantasm]

Anyone know the weight difference between the Youtek Teflon grommets and the original TK55 grommets?

Paging @vsbabolat Do you happen to know?

 

[asifallasleep]

So i modded my MIA PT630's to match my RF97's and will try them out tomorrow. 12.7oz and 10pts hl.

 

[vsbabolat]

Anyone know the weight difference between the Youtek Teflon grommets and the original TK55 grommets?

Paging @vsbabolat Do you happen to know?

I have never weighed any of the grommets.

 

[Lucas2015]

Pt280 balance is 6HL? Mine feels 4 or 3 HL...there is something I dont like about the balance that helps with slice BH ..but makes the serve strange

Am I the only one?

 

[Lucas2015]

Is it a "polarised" frame or something like that?

 

[BlueB]

Not really polarised in stock version.

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

 

[daddabompa]

Anyone know the weight difference between the Youtek Teflon grommets and the original TK55 grommets?

Paging @vsbabolat Do you happen to know?

I know that TK55A (and B, they are the same but put on i.Prestige MP XL) weights 24g, as for Youtek I'm not sure what you mean: the full- CAP one or the half-CAP one ?

 

[dgoran]

Hey what happened to @Pro_Tour_630

 

[Lucas2015]

Not really polarised in stock version.

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And is the current prestige (graphene xt) polarised ? Just curious

 

[asifallasleep]

I keep buying these frames. Just found two mint Head Radical Tour 630 Twin Tube's in Germany. So i will have 2 PT630's, 2 PT280's, 2 Rad Tour Bumble Bee's, 2 Rad Tour TwinTube Zebra's / All Made in Austria. Yay!

 

[BorgCash]

I keep buying these frames. Just found two mint Head Radical Tour 630 Twin Tube's in Germany. So i will have 2 PT630's, 2 PT280's, 2 Rad Tour Bumble Bee's, 2 Rad Tour TwinTube Zebra's / All Made in Austria. Yay!

Nice found, man! You've got a good choice of "the right" racquets.

 

[Gooner]

Just use Microgel/YT Prestige MP grommets.

The Youtek / Microgel Prestige MP grommets seem to be getting out of stock in the US online retailers. Is there another CAP grommet that would fit the PT630 the same way? (And also black colored?)

 

[vsbabolat]

The Youtek / Microgel Prestige MP grommets seem to be getting out of stock in the US online retailers. Is there another CAP grommet that would fit the PT630 the same way? (And also black colored?)

You can use Graphene XT Prestige MP grommets.

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Not sure if this was brought up... But Cuevas looks to be rocking a PT630 mold as well?

 

[BorgCash]

Not sure if this was brought up... But Cuevas looks to be rocking a PT630 mold as well?

Yes, it was known long before, maybe you missed this info.

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Yes, it was known long before, maybe you missed this info.

I did, thanks!

 

[BorgCash]

I almost forget, Wawrinka used some - PT57A maybe under pj. Or it was TGK 238.3?

 

[vsbabolat]

I almost forget, Wawrinka used some - PT57A maybe under pj. Or it was TGK 238.3?

He started out with the i.Prestige MP, then moved to the TGK223.2, and then went to TGK238

 

[BorgCash]

He started out with the i.Prestige MP, then moved to the TGK223.2, and then went to TGK238

I see. I always was wondering why he switched to Yonex (i understand big money deal), Yonex racquets are rather different from Head he used (and from others also).
And also he looked cool with this Lacoste Adidas Head combination. For Yonex it is a very good deal, the most succesful after Navratilova/Hingis.

 

[sargeinaz]

Well he did play better after switching

 

[BorgCash]

Well he did play better after switching

I think it's more because of his coach work than a new racquet

 

[sargeinaz]

I think it's more because of his coach work than a new racquet

That's probably correct and I think so too, but he still did better with the new racket lol

 

[BorgCash]

That's probably correct and I think so too, but he still did better with the new racket lol

Because he still has his Swedish coach. It's not the racquet that wins the matches, it's a player

 

[sargeinaz]

Because he still has his Swedish coach. It's not the racquet that wins the matches, it's a player

I already agreed with you.

 

[Anh Bigtoe]

What weight/specs are all you using?

The specs one mine were 365g/ 7pts HL. 2.5g each 3/9 and 4 grams at 12 o clock. 2 Grams under Head Finest Calfskin to counteract all that hoop weight. It felt nice on my 2h backhands but everything else seemed so sluggish with all the weight in the head...

I took all the lead off of 12 and under the grip to try to get rid of the sluggish feeling but ended becoming 10-11 pts HL and was too little plow, so added 2 grams back @ 12 to get it a bit less head light...

Now its at 360gm and about 9 pts HL. Haven't tested it out yet. It currently has Technifibre Black Code 18 in it which I've never hit with before now. May need to try a string setup with a bit more power?

I guess the leather grip is adding a fair amount of weight and having a 18g string making it more head light than what I usually prefer...Still gotta tweak to get a setup that I feel real comfortable with.

Any input would be great!

Put 3g at 3/9, 2g at 12 and 3g at 18cm from butt cap. Total 11g lead will make the racquet play good!