The thinner the gauge the lower the tension??

If I string the same type of string with different gauges is it better to sting the thinner gauge with a lower tension.

For example HyperG 16L @ 22kg , then the HyperG 18 @ 20 kg???

What are your thoughts about it. Im looking for forward to all the reactions
 

Muppet

Legend
It's hard to say because the 18g may start out tighter for a given tension, but then break in faster. Or for another model string, it may break in at the same rate as the thicker gauge and need a lower tension. Break in being equal, I would try them both at the same tension until you know what you've got.
 

rchjr2091

Semi-Pro
I used to buy 17g rpm blast for my crosses and string at 58 lbs- bought a reel of 18g and did the same, loved the way it played but the 18g sawed through the gut to quick for my liking. I’m not a fan of stringing racquets. I now string at about 50lbs and it seems to last longer .
Could be other variables involved but I hardly ever string 18 above 50 anymore. Seems to increase durability.
 

Traffic

Hall of Fame
If I string the same type of string with different gauges is it better to sting the thinner gauge with a lower tension.

For example HyperG 16L @ 22kg , then the HyperG 18 @ 20 kg???

What are your thoughts about it. Im looking for forward to all the reactions
I would string same tension initially. Then feel the difference of the two gauges. Change one variable at a time.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
This was a tip from the seller of a tennisbrand.
But if I see the tests of TWU then is de thinner gauge softer then the thicker one.

I'd say that the general expectation is for the thicker gauge to play more firm than a thinner version of that string installed at the same tension in the same racquet. As our pal Traffic offered above, it's not unreasonable to suggest changing only one thing at a time (string gauge, tension, type, etc.). But switching to the next thinner gauge of the same string in the same racquet often includes raising tension by one or two lbs. just to yield a similar string bed firmness when the string bed is fresh.

I typically string my own racquets with syn. gut and I prefer the feel of thinner 17 ga. options. If for some reason I swap in a 16 ga. syn. gut, I'll usually drop tension by a pound or two, just because the thicker alternative can feel more firm and "clunky", giving me less feedback. During hotter conditions in the middle of the summer, the extra inherent firmness of 16 ga. syn. gut can help me because it doesn't soften up as dramatically in the heat compared with thinner strings. If I use moderate tension with the heavier gauge, I can get pretty good feel in a string bed that doesn't get too flimsy if temps spike by maybe 12F-15F.

Short story long... I'd say that if you want to get a similar firmness when switching from 16L to 18 ga. HyperG, try installing the 18 ga. at perhaps two lbs. (or 1 kg) higher tension and go from there. But if you're switching gauges to get an inherently softer layout with that same string, try the lighter gauge at the same tension. Either way, you'll get some sort of reference to work with using that lighter gauge of string. That trial and error can take a little patience, but it's often necessary to nail down that particular feel and performance we prefer in our gear.
 
I'd say that the general expectation is for the thicker gauge to play more firm than a thinner version of that string installed at the same tension in the same racquet. As our pal Traffic offered above, it's not unreasonable to suggest changing only one thing at a time (string gauge, tension, type, etc.). But switching to the next thinner gauge of the same string in the same racquet often includes raising tension by one or two lbs. just to yield a similar string bed firmness when the string bed is fresh.

I typically string my own racquets with syn. gut and I prefer the feel of thinner 17 ga. options. If for some reason I swap in a 16 ga. syn. gut, I'll usually drop tension by a pound or two, just because the thicker alternative can feel more firm and "clunky", giving me less feedback. During hotter conditions in the middle of the summer, the extra inherent firmness of 16 ga. syn. gut can help me because it doesn't soften up as dramatically in the heat compared with thinner strings. If I use moderate tension with the heavier gauge, I can get pretty good feel in a string bed that doesn't get too flimsy if temps spike by maybe 12F-15F.

Short story long... I'd say that if you want to get a similar firmness when switching from 16L to 18 ga. HyperG, try installing the 18 ga. at perhaps two lbs. (or 1 kg) higher tension and go from there. But if you're switching gauges to get an inherently softer layout with that same string, try the lighter gauge at the same tension. Either way, you'll get some sort of reference to work with using that lighter gauge of string. That trial and error can take a little patience, but it's often necessary to nail down that particular feel and performance we prefer in our gear.

I told the salesman that I string my Babolat Pure Drive 2015 with HyperG18 @ 24 kg... I told him that I gonna test now the HyperG16L @ 22 kg. At that moment he said to string the thinner gauge always lower then the thicker one.

I think you are right that is gonna be a trial and error to find the best setup.
 

Traffic

Hall of Fame
I told the salesman that I string my Babolat Pure Drive 2015 with HyperG18 @ 24 kg... I told him that I gonna test now the HyperG16L @ 22 kg. At that moment he said to string the thinner gauge always lower then the thicker one.

I think you are right that is gonna be a trial and error to find the best setup.
Regardless of which gauge you go with, I'd string 22kg.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
I told the salesman that I string my Babolat Pure Drive 2015 with HyperG18 @ 24 kg... I told him that I gonna test now the HyperG16L @ 22 kg. At that moment he said to string the thinner gauge always lower then the thicker one.

I think you are right that is gonna be a trial and error to find the best setup.

Let us know how it turns out.
 

The Big Kahuna

Hall of Fame
It's clear, then, that the flatter the string bed remains during a shot, the better the ball control will be (at the expense of power). How do you maintain a flat string bed? By using less-stretchy string.

Thin strings are more elastic than thick ones, and loose strings are more elastic than tight ones. So what's to choose? Can you take a thick string and simply string it loosely to duplicate the power and control of a thin one?

Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. At equal stringing tensions, thin string is stretched further than thick string, so thin string behaves stiffer than thick string, and this seems to give thin string an edge on control, just as it has an edge on power. Additionally, thin string penetrates the surface of the ball deeper than thick string, and this provides more "bite" for spin shots.

First find the playability characteristics that are most important to you, then select string gauge and tension accordingly.

Here are two final considerations. Thick strings hold tension better: at the same pound-tension, they won't go "dead" as quickly as thin ones. And more elastic strings transmit less shock to the player's arm, so they may be better if you're worried about "tennis elbow."

Once you've found the tension at which your racquet generates maximum power for a particular string, you may want to tune the racquet further to suit your style of play. By reducing the tension a few pounds, the string will be less prone to breakage. By raising the tension a couple pounds, you'll stiffen the string bed: it will remain flatter when you hit the ball, and you'll gain control.


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stephenclown

Professional
It's clear, then, that the flatter the string bed remains during a shot, the better the ball control will be (at the expense of power). How do you maintain a flat string bed? By using less-stretchy string.

Thin strings are more elastic than thick ones, and loose strings are more elastic than tight ones. So what's to choose? Can you take a thick string and simply string it loosely to duplicate the power and control of a thin one?

Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. At equal stringing tensions, thin string is stretched further than thick string, so thin string behaves stiffer than thick string, and this seems to give thin string an edge on control, just as it has an edge on power. Additionally, thin string penetrates the surface of the ball deeper than thick string, and this provides more "bite" for spin shots.

First find the playability characteristics that are most important to you, then select string gauge and tension accordingly.

Here are two final considerations. Thick strings hold tension better: at the same pound-tension, they won't go "dead" as quickly as thin ones. And more elastic strings transmit less shock to the player's arm, so they may be better if you're worried about "tennis elbow."

Once you've found the tension at which your racquet generates maximum power for a particular string, you may want to tune the racquet further to suit your style of play. By reducing the tension a few pounds, the string will be less prone to breakage. By raising the tension a couple pounds, you'll stiffen the string bed: it will remain flatter when you hit the ball, and you'll gain control.


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I am glad someone has posted this thorough explanation, I felt the same when using luxilon, it wasnt that uncomfortable initially even though it is thicker than other gauges I have used. It takes the shock of the ball and still has plenty of give and stretch.

Thin strings under force from a tennis ball exceed their ability to stretch and can feel more boardy at higher tensions compared to thicker strings. So be wary those who just add a few lbs on a thinner string for arm health. I think I will be sticking with 16 or 17 from now on, hopefully 1.25+

Worth noting that lower power can be more controlled too, more ability to hit out through the ball without half of them sailing long.
 

fjcamry

Semi-Pro
Also think about playability with thinner gauges . That’s what I did I tried 17g saw that I gained more playability then went to 17L and then 18 or 18L (1.15) , and I gained playability. However I did choose a 16 mains multi and 18L poly cross hybrid .


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Steve Huff

G.O.A.T.
I told the salesman that I string my Babolat Pure Drive 2015 with HyperG18 @ 24 kg... I told him that I gonna test now the HyperG16L @ 22 kg. At that moment he said to string the thinner gauge always lower then the thicker one.

I think that he's thinking there would be less tension loss due to friction in the thinner string, so the stringbed would end up tighter, and should therefore be strung lower. In reality, most thinner strings stretch easier than there thicker counterparts, so they should be strung tighter.
 

Humbi_HTX

Semi-Pro
I know this is an old thread, but in my humble experience, trying the same string in different gages makes a big difference in how the string stretches, feels and perform. Even when stringing (because I use a drop w.) You can feel how much more forgiving or stiffer the different gages of the same string are and how they work against the pull of the lever.

What I dont understand is why choose a thinner gage and then adjust the tension to feel like a previously tried thicker gage would have. I would keep the tension the same and feel how the new gage performs, because if not then why not stick with the old gage if you already like how it feels.
 

Arak

Legend
I found 59lbs at 16g to play way tighter than 59lbs at 18g. So in a 16g I string closer to 56lbs
A lot of conflicting information on this subject. I think it’s caused by different stringing machines. Thinner string stretches more, so on a constant pull, the string keeps on stretching and will feel firmer at same tension than thicker string, hence some people advise to string it lower. However, on a lockout machine, thinner string should be strung higher.
 

2ndServe

Hall of Fame
A lot of conflicting information on this subject. I think it’s caused by different stringing machines. Thinner string stretches more, so on a constant pull, the string keeps on stretching and will feel firmer at same tension than thicker string, hence some people advise to string it lower. However, on a lockout machine, thinner string should be strung higher.

Thanks I have a gamma els electric stringer, I don't string often using kevlar so months go by before I string. I think mine is a constant pull?
 

Arak

Legend
Thanks I have a gamma els electric stringer, I don't string often using kevlar so months go by before I string. I think mine is a constant pull?
I think it’s a constant pull. Strange that you’re getting tighter tension at 16G. If it’s kevlar string I have no first hand experience with it but I think because it doesn’t stretch it behaves differently to other string materials. Just guessing.
 

2ndServe

Hall of Fame
I think it’s a constant pull. Strange that you’re getting tighter tension at 16G. If it’s kevlar string I have no first hand experience with it but I think because it doesn’t stretch it behaves differently to other string materials. Just guessing.

It doesn't matter what string I use or combo. A thicker gauge string set at the same tension also feels more boardy to me. Thinner strings definitely feel more lively/launch angle high so I string thinner strings tighter if that makes sense.
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
What I dont understand is why choose a thinner gage and then adjust the tension to feel like a previously tried thicker gage would have. I would keep the tension the same and feel how the new gage performs, because if not then why not stick with the old gage if you already like how it feels.

Because you may want the same amount of control when hitting flatter shots but want more spin capability that the thinner string can give you.
 

Arak

Legend
It doesn't matter what string I use or combo. A thicker gauge string set at the same tension also feels more boardy to me. Thinner strings definitely feel more lively/launch angle high so I string thinner strings tighter if that makes sense.
That’s why I think that ultimately it depends on the stringing technique so you can make your decisions based on the actual feedback from your racket/strings.
 

WNB93

Semi-Pro
Tbh I would do it the opposite way...the thinner gauge is softer but will lose tension faster than a thicker gauge.
 
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