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This is revenge for all the AO09 Nadal hypotheticals !
Now, fight !
Now, fight !
Thread over.Both Soderling and Murray played a crappy final.
Without Nadal in the decisive rounds of both editions, the Swiss and the Serb took a huge advantage and their mere presence was enough to beat the Swede and the British who were satisfied by reaching the finals of RG 2009 and 2016, respectively.
Federer wins all hypotheticals in his primeShould we make a single thread for hypotheticals and ban all hypotheticals discussions outside it?
Ooh ouch. Ouch that really hurt.
Good idea.Should we make a single thread for hypotheticals and ban all hypotheticals discussions outside it?
Djokovic 13 didn't make the finalFederer
Djokovic 13 would be a lot closer
Murray wins all hypotheticals when aggressive.Federer wins all hypotheticals in his prime
Nadal wins all hypotheticals when healthy
Djokovic wins all hypotheticals when motivated
Done. Shut TTW down, nothing left to discuss.
Murray wins all hypotheticals when aggressive.
And at the Olympics !Murray wins all hypotheticals when aggressive.
@Mainad be like "Murray wins all hypotheticals played within the SW19 postcode borders"Murray wins all hypotheticals when aggressive.
He couldn't have possibly played better against Thiem and last 3 sets of the final, but trolls gonna troll.I voted for Federer. 2016 Djokovic at RG was unimpressive at best. Djokovic played better in 2011, 2012 and 2013 at RG.
Baby Thiem? LololFederer in a very close 4 setter probably.
Their level wasn't far off, but Novak felt a lot of pressure. Both were excellent.
He couldn't have possibly played better against Thiem and last 3 sets of the final, but trolls gonna troll.
Saying Djokovic played better in RG 2011, 2012 and 2013 is not trolling, it is just the truth. Federer probably also played better in RG 2006/2007/2011 than in 2009.Federer in a very close 4 setter probably.
Their level wasn't far off, but Novak felt a lot of pressure. Both were excellent.
He couldn't have possibly played better against Thiem and last 3 sets of the final, but trolls gonna troll.
I have to give credit to Freddy for that win against Delpo, who played well for the first 4 sets.Both Soderling and Murray played a crappy final.
Without Nadal in the decisive rounds of both editions, the Swiss and the Serb took a huge advantage and their mere presence was enough to beat the Swede and the British who were satisfied by reaching the finals of RG 2009 and 2016, respectively.
Not that, he said "largely unimpressive in 2016", lol. It was a great run.Saying Djokovic played better in RG 2011, 2012 and 2013 is not trolling, it is just the truth. Federer probably also played better in RG 2006/2007/2011 than in 2009.
Close matches aren't always indicators of bad form. Tsonga played really well himself in that RG 2012 match, at least for a few sets. Losing a set to Agut in 2016 wasn't any better IMO. So I was more comparing the deciding matches.Not that, he said "largely unimpressive in 2016", lol. It was a great run.
I don't think he was better in 2012 with the Seppi/Tsonga matches, but 2013 and 2011 he probably.
The Agut match was a mess, played in trash conditions, with countless rain delays.Close matches aren't always indicators of bad form. Tsonga played really well himself in that RG 2012 match, at least for a few sets. Losing a set to Agut in 2016 wasn't any better IMO. So I was more comparing the deciding matches.
I didn't say it, though I didn't like this tournament in general. Murray was absolutely dead after just 1 set in the final. (and to be fair, he should have never reached the final)The Agut match was a mess, played in trash conditions, with countless rain delays.
It wasn't a big deal that he lost a set really.
About the deciding matches, he was quite good against Berdych, very good in the SF and displayed the same level after 1 set in the final.
But of course, against rather weak opposition.
Sure, you can make an argument for 2012, but do you see 2016 as largely unimpressive?
I didn't say it, though I didn't like this tournament in general. Murray was absolutely dead after just 1 set in the final. (and to be fair, he should have never reached the final)
He could have had 14 instead of 13, how will I sleep at night?
Yeah it’s a shame Wawrinka never made the final again, would’ve been a much better contest.I didn't say it, though I didn't like this tournament in general. Murray was absolutely dead after just 1 set in the final. (and to be fair, he should have never reached the final)
2009 and 2016 are the years they won their lone title at RG, yet there were other years when they were playing better, yet failed to win it.
Can we have a score of hypothetical matches between Federer and Djokovic?
2-5000Can we have a score of hypothetical matches between Federer and Djokovic?
mostly because we've seen every version of fedovic against nadal on clay so no hypotheticals need be entertained.No one loses more hypothetical matches than Nadal lol.
I voted for Federer. 2016 Djokovic at RG was unimpressive at best. Djokovic played better in 2011, 2012 and 2013 at RG.
But going down 0-2 to Seppi was.Close matches aren't always indicators of bad form. Tsonga played really well himself in that RG 2012 match, at least for a few sets. Losing a set to Agut in 2016 wasn't any better IMO. So I was more comparing the deciding matches.
With the levels comparable, its got to be Djokovic.
Fed pales in comparison as a big match player.
He can beat Hewitt and Roddick and slam finals, but prime Nadalovic is a different story.
Another age wins crap...Djokovic lost 4 slam finals to Murray and Wawrinka, but ok.
Excluding Nadal at RG, <32.5 yrs fed went 3-2 vs Nadalovic in slam finals.
Djokovic can only beat > 32.5 years old Fed in slam finals.
Has that Fedtroll been replying to me the whole time? I think I have him on mute.Another age wins crap...
How can you call anyone a troll when you’re the biggest troll on the forumHas that Fedtroll been replying to me the whole time? I think I have him on mute.