Yonex Vcore Pro 97

[mscream]

You should try something like 45 lbs, that really opens up the string bed in the VCore Pros.

 

[Fabrizio Cariani]

Thanks, I've been wary of going so low because one of the reasons I moved to this racquet is precisely that it is less powerful and more control-oriented than the pure aero I wanted to move away from, but I'll definitely try reducing the tension!

 

[GN-001]

You should try something like 45 lbs, that really opens up the string bed in the VCore Pros.

Agree. Have tried 40, 45 and 50. 45 (poly) seems the best for this racquet in my opinion.

 

[amc1787]

I am strongly considering switching to the VCore Pro 97, but I don't know whether to choose the 310 or 330 model. I liked the 330 as it was, but it was a little heavy for me to play with now that I only play a couple of times a week/ doesn't leave much room for customization. I liked the 310, but I found myself missing the stability of the 330.

If you wanted to make the 310 have the stability of the 330 and have a balance that's 8 or 9 points head light, and you didn't want to add a ton of weight to the 310 to do this, how would you go about it? My instinct is to get the 310, add a leather grip, and add a bit of weight at 3 and 9, but I'd love some input from you all.

 

[Nick777]

I am strongly considering switching to the VCore Pro 97, but I don't know whether to choose the 310 or 330 model. I liked the 330 as it was, but it was a little heavy for me to play with now that I only play a couple of times a week/ doesn't leave much room for customization. I liked the 310, but I found myself missing the stability of the 330.

If you wanted to make the 310 have the stability of the 330 and have a balance that's 8 or 9 points head light, and you didn't want to add a ton of weight to the 310 to do this, how would you go about it? My instinct is to get the 310, add a leather grip, and add a bit of weight at 3 and 9, but I'd love some input from you all.

I would go with leather and 1-2gr at 10-2,i prefer lead there instead of 3-9 at yonex rackets because of the isometric, give you nice stability, plow and dont loose much spin or Maneuverability

 

[hoodmaxi]

Bought both and the 310 came overweight, while the 330 came around 325g. That's why I just kept the 330, because to weight up the 310 for the stability of the 330 they weight almost the same. With the 330 no customisation needed

 

[ProRadTour]

@amc1787 I actually have both the 310 and 330 and haven't been able to modify the 310 to where I am satisfied it's better than the 330 for my game. I always play with a leather grip/over grip and the 330 becomes too much of a tank with a standard leather grip. To keep the weight manageable with the 330 and still have the leather grip feel I purchased some Kimony Techni Leather grips, they are 0.8mm thick and weight about the same amount as a standard PU replacement grip. So I basically managed to to keep the stock weight 330 while also having define bevels that leather grips provide. I am still tinkering with the 310 but mostly play with the 330, the stability and overall performance is hard to beat.

 

[Nadal shall rise again]

After spending some time with the 330 stock finally decided to swap the base grip for a leather one. For me the this really elevated the frame, it feels much more solid and gives me that extra plow-through. Still playing around with a small amount of lead here and there.

Experiencing some weird vibrations that go away with a little lead. Might have to just tag on a rubber band or something if lead is left out in the end.

Those who have tried a full bed of poly and a hybrid (both in low to mid 40s) which do you prefer and why?

 

[ProRadTour]

My favorite setup to this point is Yonex Poly Tour Pro Graphite 1.25 42/40. It just seems to work for me, every time I try another string setup I put that frame down and go back to Poly Tour Pro. It just suits the frame really and gives me nice pocketing without feeling to mushy and is a very comfortable setup. I have even tried Nat Gut hybrid and still prefer Poly Tour Pro setup. Would be interested to hear about Nat Gut hybrids people have had success with and at what tension.

 

[Nadal shall rise again]

My favorite setup to this point is Yonex Poly Tour Pro Graphite 1.25 42/40. It just seems to work for me, every time I try another string setup I put that frame down and go back to Poly Tour Pro. It just suits the frame really and gives me nice pocketing without feeling to mushy and is a very comfortable setup. I have even tried Nat Gut hybrid and still prefer Poly Tour Pro setup. Would be interested to hear about Nat Guy hybrids people have had success with and at what tension.

Sounds promising, will have to give it a go. I'm currently using 4g at 42 and I'm happy with it overall. I'm just curious to see if something else might be a better fit for this particular frame.

 

[Nick777]

My favorite setup to this point is Yonex Poly Tour Pro Graphite 1.25 42/40. It just seems to work for me, every time I try another string setup I put that frame down and go back to Poly Tour Pro. It just suits the frame really and gives me nice pocketing without feeling to mushy and is a very comfortable setup. I have even tried Nat Gut hybrid and still prefer Poly Tour Pro setup. Would be interested to hear about Nat Guy hybrids people have had success with and at what tension.

Have you tried the yellow version? Its even softer with little bit more power

 

[ProRadTour]

@Nick777 no I haven't, I tried the 1.20 yellow version in other frames and wasn't a fan, I have avoided the yellow version since. The 1.20 has not elasticity which makes it feel overly boardy, granted I was stringing the high 40's to low 50's so maybe I need to give the 1.25 yellow version a shot.

 

[Nick777]

@Nick777 no I haven't, I tried the 1.20 yellow version in other frames and wasn't a fan, I have avoided the yellow version since. The 1.20 has not elasticity which makes it feel overly boardy, granted I was stringing the high 40's to low 50's so maybe I need to give the 1.25 yellow version a shot.

The 1.20 has even more elasticity than 1.25 thats why you need to string a couple of pounds higher

 

[ProRadTour]

@Nadal shall rise again 4G is a pretty firm string, I have used it as a cross with gut but not in a full bed. The graphite/black version of PTP 1.25 I believe is a little firmer than the yellow version. It complements the frame well as it gives it a nice plush stringbed without taking away the feel/feedback.

 

[ron schaap]

It’s just really that damn low powered.

The 4 tennis Warehouse testers didnt find it that low powered, in fact they gave it really high praise, even on the serve it got a >80!
But cyclone, if you used it in your Yonex, is supposed to be low powered in itself.

 

[mscream]

I'm having cyclone in one of my 330s at the moment (44/42). Actually feels lively and not low-powered at all.

Yonex PTP 1.25 I did not like at all in that racquet, felt like a board. Admittedly, tension was 50 lbs but those strings feel way too muted. Poly Tour Strike is much, much better in the VCP IMO.

 

[Nadal shall rise again]

4G might be firm, but I like it much more than ALU Power (aside from the first heavenly hour you experience with the ALU) for it's control and durability. The only Yonex string I have tried so far is Poly Tour Spin and let me say, this may have been the stiffest string I've ever played with.

Will have to give PTP and PTS(triske) a go.

@mscream how long is cyclone lasting you?

 

[ProRadTour]

@mscream did you use PTP yellow when you tried it? I also have tried PTS and it's also a really good string. Doesn't notch as quick as PTP and I also found it lower powered. I tried the black version in the VCP 330. Tried the grey version of PTS in another frame and I thought it was more lively than the black version.

Also just recently tried Cyclone 1.20 in the VCP and it's also a really get setup for the frame.

 

[zettavaska]

Has anyone tried YPTF (yonex poly tour fire)? If so, any gauge and tension experiences to report?

 

[Goose]

I could not find any customer reviews on the 310 that mention vibrations. But there are four reviews on the 330 that mention vibrations. One of those reviews says that the 330 has almost no vibrations. The other three say that the 330 has "weird vibrations" or an "awful vibration/buzz". In addition, I've seen a few posts in this thread where users say that it has little to no vibrations.

The customer review from Danny on the 330 is interesting: "It has an awful vibration/buzz to it and if you play without a dampener like I do the vibration goes down the handle to your hand. I popped the butt cap off and the trap door leads to nowhere. It is solid wood so I can't see what's inside the handle. This leads me to believe the handle is hollow, whereas the Duel G comes standard with some sort of foam filling. My best guess is that is why the thing is so buzzy."

I also noticed a lot vibration/buzz with my 310, but not just high up on the string bed; hitting anywhere in the string bed with my hand produces the vibration/buzz, and the vibrations do travel down the handle to my hand, as Danny observed. However, when I place a rubber band dampener on the strings, the vibration/buzzing in the string bed disappears, and the vibrations in the handle also disappear. I always play with a dampener, so it's not a problem for me on the court, but this issue still irks me.

I have observed similar vibrations/buzzing in one of my other rackets (not Yonex), but not as bad as my 310. In addition, I have observed that the vibrations/buzzing does not seem to be model-specific. I have two of the same model, but only one of them produces annoying vibrations/buzzing. This may explain why some people say the 330 produces almost no vibrations, whereas other people (the majority, apparently) say that it produces significant unwanted vibrations. Maybe some people are receiving nice Vcore Pros and others are receiving vibrating/buzzy ones. I like to learn more about this issue. Can anyone else chime in with their observations?

Finally, like Danny, I noticed that the trap door leads to nowhere. On my 310, there is a thin layer of the pallet material (off-white colour) covering the two openings inside the handle. I removed the thin layer of pallet material covering one of the handle openings, and underneath it is a dark (but semi-transparent) and thin sheet of plastic that seals the handle opening. Based on my observations looking through the thin sheet of plastic and pushing on it gently, I appears to me that the handle is indeed hollow, as Danny suspected. Can anyone confirm? In any case, I don't think that hollow handles alone cause unwanted vibrations/buzzing, as my other rackets have hollow handles and, as I said above, only one of them produces unwanted vibrations/buzzing.

Sorry to dig up quite an old post. But I'm experiencing the exact same issue at the moment myself.

It definitely wasn't happening when I first picked up the racquet and only started after about 5/6 months of use. I'm wondering if it's developed a small crack somewhere in the frame or something odd like that. I treat my racquets well and have never tossed it around or anything of the sort. It just started happening one day when playing/coaching.

The buzzing/vibrations were getting so bad that I was getting a very sore wrist and fingers after a relatively short time on court.

A dampener stops the vibrations for the most part except if I hit the ball in the upper area of the frame. However I really don't like the feel of playing with a dampener.

Did anyone end up finding a solution? Did anyone try contacting Yonex directly about the issue?

 

[mscream]

@Nadal shall rise again I'm playing with Cyclone at the moment alongside PT Strike. It's definitely lasting longer than YTex Square-X and TF BC4S in terms of durability (breaking) but I feel that the tension loss is larger. Also, the shape wears out very fast. I'm playing with the orange colour.

@ProRadTour I had PTP in the VCP demo from TW and I didn't like it. To be fair, I have never liked it in any racquet. Too mushy/muted for my taste and I found the spin potential/launch angle comparatively low for a smooth string. I like PT Strike much better. The grey version is a great fit for the VCP IMO because it maintains control + durability but adds just enough pop to compensate for the intrinsic lack of power of that racquet.

 

[mscream]

I really liked Cyclone so far for the first 2 hours, after that I struggled a bit with the loss of tension. Might also be large due to my daily form to be fair.

 

[anfield]

I went from RF97 to VCP 330, then to Tour G 330, then then VCP 310, then Tour G 310 and have settled with Duel G 310 with leather grip and some lead at 3 and 9 @347g with fb of PTStrike gray. I could never get the VCP to feel solid enough in the 310 or 330. I swear there is such a dead spot up top that no amount of lead can cure.

Love the Tour G 330 but no real room for customization, also swings like a banjo. The Tour G 310 is super plush, whippy, but gets pushed around even with leather grip and lead. Duel G is just the right thickness, mass and stiffness to allow you block back big serves, and deal with big hitters and allow great feel and precision.

 

[GN-001]

I went from RF97 to VCP 330, then to Tour G 330, then then VCP 310, then Tour G 310 and have settled with Duel G 310 with leather grip and some lead at 3 and 9 @347g with fb of PTStrike gray. I could never get the VCP to feel solid enough in the 310 or 330. I swear there is such a dead spot up top that no amount of lead can cure.

Love the Tour G 330 but no real room for customization, also swings like a banjo. The Tour G 310 is super plush, whippy, but gets pushed around even with leather grip and lead. Duel G is just the right thickness, mass and stiffness to allow you block back big serves, and deal with big hitters and allow great feel and precision.

Definitely agree about the Tour G 310. Takes more effort to generate power whereas it's easier with the VCP due to having more pop, although it is less stable (thinner beam perhaps) and smaller sweetsport than the Tour G. I have both and love both for different reasons. I've tried the Duel G briefly and liked it but my friend decided to sell it to someone else instead so I've never owned one.

 

[anfield]

I have both and love both for different reasons.

Yeah, I just love my Tour G 310g at 348g, just absolutely the most comfy and controlled frame I've used in modern times.

Can absolutely unleash the best one handed BH, driving, heavy top, and slice, second serves too, just a bit too mushy for everything else. I never felt this with the VCPs. Today I was returning serve with the 347g Duel G and was stepping into my OHBH and ripping them down the line. They guy hits a big first serve and always kinda chipped with the Tour G, same with VCP even in the 330g.

Basically I just held the stick with my BH grip and if it went to my forehand, all I had time for was a squash type driving chip. I could never do this with the Tour G or VCPs. I'm going to put up Tour Gs on the boards and post in the Wanted for Duel Gs.

I really think they missed a trick with the VCP, I really wanted to love them.

 

[isukatennis]

Coming from a DR98 (dynawire syn gut), I got a 97 310 in October... I had the DR98 because after starting the game again last year, after 30 yrs away, I immediately hurt my elbow/arm...Resting it over the winter and the DR98 did the trick and I played A LOT this spring-fall, with no arm issues. So I get cocky and get a new 97 310 with a poly/multi hybrid....this string set up with some bad technique, brought the arm issues back. I REALLY want to love this frame, but afraid I need to go to a full multi or sync gut from now on... Any string suggestions that will still do this frame justice and provide comfort for the arm? (I kept my DR98's just in case

 

[Matto]

Coming from a DR98 (dynawire syn gut), I got a 97 310 in October... I had the DR98 because after starting the game again last year, after 30 yrs away, I immediately hurt my elbow/arm...Resting it over the winter and the DR98 did the trick and I played A LOT this spring-fall, with no arm issues. So I get cocky and get a new 97 310 with a poly/multi hybrid....this string set up with some bad technique, brought the arm issues back. I REALLY want to love this frame, but afraid I need to go to a full multi or sync gut from now on... Any string suggestions that will still do this frame justice and provide comfort for the arm? (I kept my DR98's just in case

What tension and gauge were you using?

I have used the DR in the past. I don't think you will ever get that same feel with the VCP. You can go pretty low with the tension on the VCP. 42-48 range. That adds to the comfort. You may want to had weight as well if you haven't. In the end, bad technique will all most always lead to arm pain. When I have a off day sometime I will start muscling the ball. Then pain comes right away. Take care of yourself.

I found yellow jackets to be comfortable for a poly. As well as Weis red ghost. However I found that has durability issues. YONEX PTP is also on the softer side, but that is just not my cup of tea. If you want a firm pillow feel you could experiment with Kevlar/ZX. I might try a full bed of multi just for the fun of it and let you know.

 

[isukatennis]

What tension and gauge were you using?

I have used the DR in the past. I don't think you will ever get that same feel with the VCP. You can go pretty low with the tension on the VCP. 42-48 range. That adds to the comfort. You may want to had weight as well if you haven't. In the end, bad technique will all most always lead to arm pain. When I have a off day sometime I will start muscling the ball. Then pain comes right away. Take care of yourself.

I found yellow jackets to be comfortable for a poly. As well as Weis red ghost. However I found that has durability issues. YONEX PTP is also on the softer side, but that is just not my cup of tea. If you want a firm pillow feel you could experiment with Kevlar/ZX. I might try a full bed of multi just for the fun of it and let you know.

Thanks!... I had the poly M@53 17g and the multi X@51 16g...but I'll never try poly again...its what i started out with when I hurt my arm the first time, and now the second time as well. As much as I liked hitting with it, I just don't have the arm for it.

 

[Hmgraphite1]

Thanks!... I had the poly M@53 17g and the multi X@51 16g...but I'll never try poly again...its what i started out with when I hurt my arm the first time, and now the second time as well. As much as I liked hitting with it, I just don't have the arm for it.

Cyclone tour 18# at 45 lbs is soft and powerful. Could also hybrid with a softer poly 18 gauge cross.

 

[!<-_->!]

Strung up a VCore Pro 310 with Yonex Poly Tour Pro 17 at 46 or 47 and it definitely felt pretty firm. Not painfully firm, but it's noticeable. Main racket is still the Duel G 310 and the Duel G is far more plush. Both rackets weighted up to around 345g strung.

 

[MajesticMoose]

Odd cause both the 310 and 330 should be fairly arm friendly. Maybe a tad crisper than their Duel G predecessors.

Even those soft poly strings under 50lbs shouldn't be an issue... hmm

 

[Nick777]

Strung up a VCore Pro 310 with Yonex Poly Tour Pro 17 at 46 or 47 and it definitely felt pretty firm. Not painfully firm, but it's noticeable. Main racket is still the Duel G 310 and the Duel G is far more plush. Both rackets weighted up to around 345g strung.

Duel g is little more comfortable, try yptp at 44lbs or hybrid with multi mains at 46/46lbs

 

[ron schaap]

Coming from a DR98 (dynawire syn gut), I got a 97 310 in October... I had the DR98 because after starting the game again last year, after 30 yrs away, I immediately hurt my elbow/arm...Resting it over the winter and the DR98 did the trick and I played A LOT this spring-fall, with no arm issues. So I get cocky and get a new 97 310 with a poly/multi hybrid....this string set up with some bad technique, brought the arm issues back. I REALLY want to love this frame, but afraid I need to go to a full multi or sync gut from now on... Any string suggestions that will still do this frame justice and provide comfort for the arm? (I kept my DR98's just in case

sometimes a hybrid could feel stiffer than a lower tension full poly. Have you tried yptp 1.20 at 21 or 22 kg? and why did you switch to another frame if you liked the dr98 so much? finally it could be an issue with your balls, with older gasfilled balls you have to overhit causing arm problems, certainly now during the winter when its colder!

 

[!<-_->!]

In addition to the grip size feeling a tad smaller, has anyone found that the VCore Pro seems to have a bit more of a rectangular grip shape whereas the Duel G is more square?

 

[!<-_->!]

Duel g is little more comfortable, try yptp at 44lbs or hybrid with multi mains at 46/46lbs

The PTP already feels too powerful at the upper 40s. I am finding that the firmer frame makes it easier to volley. More point and shoot as a result.

 

[Nick777]

The PTP already feels too powerful at the upper 40s. I am finding that the firmer frame makes it easier to volley. More point and shoot as a result.

Try the graphite ptp 1.25,low power compare to yellow and little more firm

 

[ProRadTour]

I have been using Poly Tour Pro 1.25 Graphite and Poly Tour Strike 1.25 Black strung at 42/40 and have been really happy with comfort and performance. Comfort is a little better with PTP Graphite, however spin and longevity is better with Poly Tour Strike.

@!<-_->! I would agree that the grip is more rectangular, closer to the head grip shape, it more like an in between Head and Wilson. Not as rectangular as the Head Grip shape, but definitely closer to the head shape than the Wilson shape. Didn't play with the Duel G version.

 

[alidisperanza]

Hi Yonex Family,

For those of you who have found the VCP97 to be a bit underpowered, I suggest you give gut mains/ poly crosses a shot. After watching Dom Thiem absolutely murdering the ball against Nadal a couple months ago I had an itch I simply couldn't scratch without trying it. I used some econo-gut with Black Knight in the crosses so defacto I'm assuming it would be even better with a reputable main. Long story short, it played well with a solid feel and may be a solution for those that find the frame a bit underpowered and/or dead. There is definitely some adjustment with technique and launch angle but the ball will definitely have more zip.

 

[richdvng]

Looking to demo the VCore Pro 97 (310g) - currently playing with a Vcore Xi 98 (305). Its a still frame that has a plush feel but playing with isn't sustainable for my forearm. Wondering if the VCP97 would be a good switch. Any comments?

 

[zettavaska]

Looking to demo the VCore Pro 97 (310g) - currently playing with a Vcore Xi 98 (305). Its a still frame that has a plush feel but playing with isn't sustainable for my forearm. Wondering if the VCP97 would be a good switch. Any comments?

Yes. I switched from Yonex EZONE DR 98. But also depends on your playing style and what you are looking for. Any thoughts?

 

[richdvng]

Yes. I switched from Yonex EZONE DR 98. But also depends on your playing style and what you are looking for. Any thoughts?

I have moderately long strokes. My play style is aggressive baseliner I would say - usually like hitting deep topspin balls with the intent of getting a short ball then finishing at the net.

 

[anfield]

I'll never try poly again.

I play full poly with the Tour G 310g is up to 345g with some lead and OG. It's THE most plush stick, I've never felt any issues in my arm or wrist. When I'm playing indoors and doubles I use the Duel G with same specs, it's noticeably firmer, but still plush.

I could not get into the VCP 310 or 330, it just feels that little bit more flimsy.

I'd suggest finding a Tour G and you will never have any arm issues and will have a frame that feels like you can pocket and really work the ball. It's a dream for OHBH and slice.

 

[zettavaska]

I have moderately long strokes. My play style is aggressive baseliner I would say - usually like hitting deep topspin balls with the intent of getting a short ball then finishing at the net.

You might like it then. My swing speed tends to be on the faster side and felt like the VCORE Pro 97 suits me better than the EZONE DR 98

 

[Rally]

How do the 310 and the 330 with leather and lead compare to a Pro Staff 90? I'm getting both frames as demos next week but I can't customize demos to my spec. I was hoping some kind people who have played with both the PS90 and a VCORE Pro 97 could chime in.

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[Syfo-Dias]

Anybody know if the current batches of these are still measuring short? I got a VCP 330 as soon as they were released and mine is at least 1/16" short strung. Seemed like kind of a weird anomaly to me since my other Yonex sticks are exactly 27" long strung.

 

[Yoneyama]

Anybody know if the current batches of these are still measuring short? I got a VCP 330 as soon as they were released and mine is at least 1/16" short strung. Seemed like kind of a weird anomaly to me since my other Yonex sticks are exactly 27" long strung.

My VCP310 I bought on the first week of release is 27" strung... In contrast my DG310s were a touch over 27" strung.

I know it seems like a bandaid fix but for discrepancies as small as 1/16" you can just offset the buttcap with some balsa wood cut to the shape of the handle.

 

[Syfo-Dias]

My VCP310 I bought on the first week of release is 27" strung... In contrast my DG310s were a touch over 27" strung.

I know it seems like a bandaid fix but for discrepancies as small as 1/16" you can just offset the buttcap with some balsa wood cut to the shape of the handle.

Eh since it's only 1/16" I'm not that worried about it. Was just curious if it was an issue with the original batches or something.

 

[alidisperanza]

My VCP310 I bought on the first week of release is 27" strung... In contrast my DG310s were a touch over 27" strung.

I know it seems like a bandaid fix but for discrepancies as small as 1/16" you can just offset the buttcap with some balsa wood cut to the shape of the handle.

That's quite aggressive. How do you ppl notice these things other than actually measuring them?

 

[ron schaap]

My VCP310 I bought on the first week of release is 27" strung... In contrast my DG310s were a touch over 27" strung.

I know it seems like a bandaid fix but for discrepancies as small as 1/16" you can just offset the buttcap with some balsa wood cut to the shape of the handle.

Why dont you measure your racquets unstrung? I m sure stringing could cause deformation therefor lenghtening or shortening of a racquet. And how many mm is 1/16 ", i have no clue?

 

[Syfo-Dias]

Some of us are just OCD about weights and measurements.