MY POLY REVIEWS

Ft.S

Semi-Pro
As I mentioned somewhere previously in this great thread, I think Lux 4G Soft is a wonderful string both as a hybrid and full-bed setup; I personally use it full bed. I initially tested to Lux 4G based on OPs review and I thought his input was spot-on, although I use it at slightly higher tension than his suggestion. And it worked so well for me that I completely switched to it, have been using it for the last month.

Since I had such great experience following @Mareqnyc experiences, I thought I'd also try Lux ALU Power, which also resulted in very good experience. ALU Power is a little softer and helps me generate more spin that 4G, but I have more control with 4G and it has better tension retention than ALU. With ALU I get one good match, after that the tension drops too much that I have too little control and my serves suffer. With 4G I get one singles and one doubles matches before the same thing happens.

With such good experiences following OP's reviews, I thought to try Kirschbaum Max Power as well. So, now I have been using it for the past week and the results are really positive. It is almost as soft as ALU Power, provides as much control as 4G, but tension retention is, thus far, superb. I went through three matches thus far with this string on one racquet, total tension drop has been around 6-7 lbs, and I still have good serves and enough control that I don't have to restring. On top of it all, it is 40% cheaper than the Lux counterparts :)

Based on this experience, I ordered a reel and hopefully things will continue positively, I am very optimistic.

So, this is a big shout out and thank you letter to @Mareqnyc and everyone else who have been providing input to this thread; Thank you all!
 

mikeeeee

Professional
Ordered RS Lyon without doing research and was surprised when it arrived to see it was round. RPM rough came with it and I'm pretty excited about it.

Somewhat unrelated (hybrid) - I strung Gamma TNT2 in the mains and Volkl V-Pro in the crosses of my Rev Pro. This set up is actually really insane as I've been playing my best tennis of the summer. Feel a little tingle in the elbow so I'll probably experiment with a softer cross string. V-Pro felt VERY stiff when pulling tension
 

CosmosMpower

Hall of Fame
As I mentioned somewhere previously in this great thread, I think Lux 4G Soft is a wonderful string both as a hybrid and full-bed setup; I personally use it full bed. I initially tested to Lux 4G based on OPs review and I thought his input was spot-on, although I use it at slightly higher tension than his suggestion. And it worked so well for me that I completely switched to it, have been using it for the last month.

Since I had such great experience following @Mareqnyc experiences, I thought I'd also try Lux ALU Power, which also resulted in very good experience. ALU Power is a little softer and helps me generate more spin that 4G, but I have more control with 4G and it has better tension retention than ALU. With ALU I get one good match, after that the tension drops too much that I have too little control and my serves suffer. With 4G I get one singles and one doubles matches before the same thing happens.

With such good experiences following OP's reviews, I thought to try Kirschbaum Max Power as well. So, now I have been using it for the past week and the results are really positive. It is almost as soft as ALU Power, provides as much control as 4G, but tension retention is, thus far, superb. I went through three matches thus far with this string on one racquet, total tension drop has been around 6-7 lbs, and I still have good serves and enough control that I don't have to restring. On top of it all, it is 40% cheaper than the Lux counterparts :)

Based on this experience, I ordered a reel and hopefully things will continue positively, I am very optimistic.

So, this is a big shout out and thank you letter to @Mareqnyc and everyone else who have been providing input to this thread; Thank you all!

You may try Solinco Revolution, it's my go to now. Lots of control like 4G, decently soft enough (no arm pain) and I only lost 6 pounds of tension after 6 hours of play.
 

itsme9003

Rookie
That is exactly what I experienced.

so I just finished reading through all your comments - thanks a bunch! my initial question is, how would you compare max power regular 17 to max power rough 17? is the rough version really deserving of the #1 string above the regular?
 

mscream

Professional
They play very differently, MP is a quality string for sure, much stiffer and crisper than the rough version, so it depends what kind of feel you like better. I gravitate more towards softer playing polys but if you prefer stiffer and crisp standard MP is the way to go.
 

Adisor

Rookie
Pro Line Evolution is a really nice string IMO. But it's not any lighter than most polys, as advertised. The 1.25 felt very similar to Cyber Blue 1.20, but the Kirschbaum had better bite and control and the factory pre-stretch should make it last longer. If it were lighter, I would have kept it on my heavier racquet. I strung the KB 1.25 2 lbs. lower than the CB 1.20.

Evolution is nice and soft. There is no need to hybrid with it, unless you like a syngut cross to save money.[/QUOT
I like a round string better. In an 18x20 pattern I find that round polys are more consistent in terms of accuracy. My theory is that a more open pattern allows the string's edges to deflect away from the ball more easily, not catching on the ball unpredictably.

51/56 for each of these strings will be a good place to start. It will also help you compare them if they are at the same tensions with the same cross. BF/GU will feel a little more dead than CF/GU.
Ok Muppet, here you go she tried all the setups you recommended. First of all, she doesn't like for now any hybrids poly/multi as she would describe it "feel of lucking unity". She tried Black Force, Co-Focus, Evolution with Gutex as cross. She decided to try them all in full bed . Now, she plays Evolution @ 47, and it is still comfortable (she started first @ 45). She will go to 49 next week. So far, she likes most Ytex Square X 1.25 @51. Is Evolution much different from MP Rough 1.25? Mareqnyc gave 8.5 for comfort that is pretty good.
 

Muppet

Legend
Ok Muppet, here you go she tried all the setups you recommended. First of all, she doesn't like for now any hybrids poly/multi as she would describe it "feel of lucking unity". She tried Black Force, Co-Focus, Evolution with Gutex as cross. She decided to try them all in full bed . Now, she plays Evolution @ 47, and it is still comfortable (she started first @ 45). She will go to 49 next week. So far, she likes most Ytex Square X 1.25 @51. Is Evolution much different from MP Rough 1.25? Mareqnyc gave 8.5 for comfort that is pretty good.
Yeah, I like it when I can feel the different elements of a hybrid at work. Once I tried Black Force/S-gut @51/54 and it was such a good match that I didn't like it. If she prefers a full bed, that's great. She'll only need to get one reel at a time. I have a 1/2 set of Square-X kicking around and I've been wondering what to do with it. The first half went into my MuscleWeave racquet in the mains, but that felt too nebulous as that frame already lends deadness to the feel. My Biomimetic 200 is probably where it will land, in the mains, as that one lacks feel (crisp) and lets the string do the talking.

Thank you for indulging my advice. As for MPR vs. Evo. my impression is that MPR has more of a metallic feel, where Evo is muted and very comfy. MPR is more comfortable than MP, but not in the same class of comfort as Evo. I'm also pretty sure that Evo is more elastic than MPR, but I played with Evo and not MPR.
 

Adisor

Rookie
Yeah, I like it when I can feel the different elements of a hybrid at work. Once I tried Black Force/S-gut @51/54 and it was such a good match that I didn't like it. If she prefers a full bed, that's great. She'll only need to get one reel at a time. I have a 1/2 set of Square-X kicking around and I've been wondering what to do with it. The first half went into my MuscleWeave racquet in the mains, but that felt too nebulous as that frame already lends deadness to the feel. My Biomimetic 200 is probably where it will land, in the mains, as that one lacks feel (crisp) and lets the string do the talking.

Thank you for indulging my advice. As for MPR vs. Evo. my impression is that MPR has more of a metallic feel, where Evo is muted and very comfy. MPR is more comfortable than MP, but not in the same class of comfort as Evo. I'm also pretty sure that Evo is more elastic than MPR, but I played with Evo and not MPR.
She feels the same way about Evo as you described elastic. She said that @47 she doesn't have the confidence in the string because of elasticity, so she must go higher until she finds that right tension without getting injury. Is the MPR worth to go for it?
 

Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
Yeah, I like it when I can feel the different elements of a hybrid at work. Once I tried Black Force/S-gut @51/54 and it was such a good match that I didn't like it. If she prefers a full bed, that's great. She'll only need to get one reel at a time. I have a 1/2 set of Square-X kicking around and I've been wondering what to do with it. The first half went into my MuscleWeave racquet in the mains, but that felt too nebulous as that frame already lends deadness to the feel. My Biomimetic 200 is probably where it will land, in the mains, as that one lacks feel (crisp) and lets the string do the talking.

Thank you for indulging my advice. As for MPR vs. Evo. my impression is that MPR has more of a metallic feel, where Evo is muted and very comfy. MPR is more comfortable than MP, but not in the same class of comfort as Evo. I'm also pretty sure that Evo is more elastic than MPR, but I played with Evo and not MPR.

She feels the same way about Evo as you described elastic. She said that @47 she doesn't have the confidence in the string because of elasticity, so she must go higher until she finds that right tension without getting injury. Is the MPR worth to go for it?

Are you guys talking about Kirschbaum Evolution (which I haven't tried yet) or Solinco Revolution?
 

Adisor

Rookie
She feels the same way about Evo as you described elastic. She said that @47 she doesn't have the confidence in the string because of elasticity, so she must go higher until she finds that right tension without getting injury. Is the MPR worth to go for it?
Muppet, I have younger daughter she plays multi Signum Pro Micronite at 48/46. She needs more control. Can you think of some hybrid set up for her I got reel of Black Force, Co-Focus, Ultra Cable, Evo, Micronite, X-Cel, Gutex, Prince Premier Control & Power, NewElement 500
 

Adisor

Rookie
Are you guys talking about Kirschbaum Evolution (which I haven't tried yet) or Solinco Revolution?
We talk about Kirschbaum Evolution. I want to give a chance your #1 on the list, but I am just afraid that it will be very similar string. In Europe Kirschbaum reels run for 70 usd, so it is very reasonable.
 

Adisor

Rookie
Muppet, I have younger daughter she plays multi Signum Pro Micronite at 48/46. She needs more control. Can you think of some hybrid set up for her I got reel of Black Force, Co-Focus, Ultra Cable, Evo, Micronite, X-Cel, Gutex, Prince Premier Control & Power, NewElement 500
oh I got also reel of Wilson Syn Gut Power 17 and Syn Gut Duramax 17
 

mscream

Professional
@Adisor, the (female, 18) junior I'm playing with uses Evolution at 50 lbs without any comfort issues, it's her go-to string. So there should be some room for increasing tension. MP Rough is definitely on the more comfortable side for a ploy string and could be a viable option if Evolution at higher tension doesn't work out. It's a very good all-round string that doesn't have any obvious weaknesses and provides good control and feel.
 

Muppet

Legend
Muppet, I have younger daughter she plays multi Signum Pro Micronite at 48/46. She needs more control. Can you think of some hybrid set up for her I got reel of Black Force, Co-Focus, Ultra Cable, Evo, Micronite, X-Cel, Gutex, Prince Premier Control & Power, NewElement 500
If your younger daughter is in lessons, I'd refer you to her instructor to help her find the right strings. From my armchair it would be irresponsible of me to make that reccomendation.

Regarding the Evo, I had that strung @50 in my Aerogel 200 - 95", 345g, 7 HL. In a larger head, more open pattern, and lighter racquet you could easily go 2 lbs. higher than I did and not fear injury. That being said, as soon as she feels something she should put it down. Always keep a comfy racquet handy while testing.

Since she likes Evo, MPR would be an expensive experiment and I don't think she'd like it as much.
 
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Adisor

Rookie
If your younger daughter is in lessons, I'd refer you to her instructor to help her find the right strings. From my armchair it would be irresponsible of me to make that reccomendation.

Regarding the Evo, I had that strung @50 in my Aerogel 200 - 95", 345g, 7 HL. In a larger head, more open pattern, and lighter racquet you could easily go 2 lbs. higher than I did and not fear injury. That being said, as soon as she feels something she should put it down. Always keep a comfy racquet handy while testing.

Since she likes Evo, MPR would be an expensive experiment and I don't think she'd like it as much.
She got no coach.
 

Adisor

Rookie
@Adisor, the (female, 18) junior I'm playing with uses Evolution at 50 lbs without any comfort issues, it's her go-to string. So there should be some room for increasing tension. MP Rough is definitely on the more comfortable side for a ploy string and could be a viable option if Evolution at higher tension doesn't work out. It's a very good all-round string that doesn't have any obvious weaknesses and provides good control and feel.
She has played Evolution @50/48 today for 4h, and it is still very comfortable. She could go higher with it, but there is no need it is good enough as it is. She likes this string very much. She will finish this reel in one month, and if MP Rough is even more comfortable it would be worth to switch to.
 

mscream

Professional
I played with the RF97 a few times and in my opinion the ideal string bed contains natural gut somewhere or something comparable. It's a very stiff racquet, and stiff poly in full bed kills the feel, at least in my opinion. If I would play the RF97 with poly, I would probably use Max Power Rough or a similar soft, textured poly with good tension maintenance. "Rough" overall tend to fall in this category. No surprise that Federer plays with NG and Alu Power rough.
 

Adisor

Rookie
She has played Evolution @50/48 today for 4h, and it is still very comfortable. She could go higher with it, but there is no need it is good enough as it is. She likes this string very much. She will finish this reel in one month, and if MP Rough is even more comfortable it would be worth to switch to.
Ok after playing 6-7h, Kirschbaum Evolution looses spin property even though the string is still playable, but she would cut the string at that stage.
 

Adisor

Rookie
If I remember correctly you already propose Zo Verve 17/Big Ace Micro(1.15) 53/50. On TW, Zo Verve got stiffness of 231lbs, and her multi is in 150lbs stiffness, and we need to get there gradually I harder strings I think. She has no coach to suggest her set up, but Zo Verve could just rip her hand off. One time she tried Tour Bite 17 at 53/53, and she got numb hand in 5 minutes. She is strong and rips the ball like a pro, but her muscles are not there yet. On the video you saw she was 92 lbs, and 5.3feet, and now she is like 99.5lbs and 5.45feet. She is developing.[/QUOTE
What do you play now
Have her try gamma zo verve mains with alu crosses.
Kiteboard what do you play now since there is no more Zo Verve?
 

Ft.S

Semi-Pro
Would Max Power Rough be a good string for the RF97?
What tension?
Thanks!!!
That's what I am using on my RF97s, really like it as I mentioned in previous posts. I string at different tensions depending on time of play; for example, if I am preparing for a tournament and I have to string four racquets (1/day for me), I'll start at 57/55 for the first one, which will have the longest wait time, than drop to 56/54, 55/53 and final one at 54/52, and use the racquets in reverse order during the tournament weekend. So in short, mid-50s for reference tension work really well for me.
 
That's what I am using on my RF97s, really like it as I mentioned in previous posts. I string at different tensions depending on time of play; for example, if I am preparing for a tournament and I have to string four racquets (1/day for me), I'll start at 57/55 for the first one, which will have the longest wait time, than drop to 56/54, 55/53 and final one at 54/52, and use the racquets in reverse order during the tournament weekend. So in short, mid-50s for reference tension work really well for me.

Thanks!! Right now in my RF97, I'm using VS Touch at 57 and Tourna Black Zone at 54, which I really like.
I'm interested in trying a firm string bed. I'll give it a shot.
 

Ft.S

Semi-Pro
Thanks!! Right now in my RF97, I'm using VS Touch at 57 and Tourna Black Zone at 54, which I really like.
I'm interested in trying a firm string bed. I'll give it a shot.
I went through nearly the same cycle; was using Klip Legend with Lux 4G Soft at 57/54 respectively, and I like full polly much better.
 

mscream

Professional
@Adisor, I played with Revolution in the DR98. Revolution is stiffer and crisper than MP Rough, the latter though is more comfortable. In my experience, crispness comes with stiffness, which is detrimental to comfort. Revolution 18 is a bit deceptive because it's very thin. What I would recommend though if you are looking for something that has a very crisp feel without being uncomfortable, is Solstice Power 1.20. Plays great in a DR98, lively but still very controllable due to its tremendous bite. It's more comfortable than a lot other strings that have a similar crisp feel but not at the level of MPR. MPR is in the sweet spot between comfort, control and durability at the expense of crispness.
 

Adisor

Rookie
@Adisor, I played with Revolution in the DR98. Revolution is stiffer and crisper than MP Rough, the latter though is more comfortable. In my experience, crispness comes with stiffness, which is detrimental to comfort. Revolution 18 is a bit deceptive because it's very thin. What I would recommend though if you are looking for something that has a very crisp feel without being uncomfortable, is Solstice Power 1.20. Plays great in a DR98, lively but still very controllable due to its tremendous bite. It's more comfortable than a lot other strings that have a similar crisp feel but not at the level of MPR. MPR is in the sweet spot between comfort, control and durability at the expense of crispness.
Where would Pro Supex Big Ace Micro & Big Ace(which gauge) fit?
 

Jorge Reis

Rookie
Hi all, can you tell me the main differences between same string but different gauge?
I would like to compare:
Kirschbaum Max Power Rough 1.25 Vs 1.20
RS Lyon 1.25 Vs 1.20
Solinco Revolution 1.25(16L) Vs 1.20(17)
Solinco HyperG 1.25(16L) Vs 1.20 (17)

Already saw @Mareqnyc opinion about Revolution, but would be great to have your thoughts...

EDIT: Saw some opinions about Max Power Rough that play well in all gauges..
 
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Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
Mareq help me to choose between MP Rough 1.20 and 1.25?
I have not used the 1.20 gauge. 1.25 and 1.30 is what I have tried and there is noticeable difference in feel. In general terms the thicker the string the more "feedback" or "feel" you will get. Both are very subjective but in my experience what it translates to is how much the feel is pronounced at contact. So let's say if MP Rough has a moderately muted and firm feel at contact the thicker gauge will increase that feel since there is more string at contact with the ball. Conversely thinner string will have less of the feel but more bite. It is all a matter of personal preference and some strings play very differently across the gauges.
I wouldn't do 1.20mm or less in a very open pattern, it looses tension and dies very fast. 16g and 17g of any kind are usually fine in any 16x19 and other open patterns. 16g in 18x20 doesn't work too good unless you hit flat.
 
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Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
Ready to share my thoughts on the Toalson HD Aster Poly:

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Nice packaging and a generous 13 meters of string. There is very little info on this stuff online; I was quite happy to go into this blind test.

This string starts off like Kirschbaum PL2 and ends up like Pro Line X. It feels soft in hand and plays pretty comfortably from the get go. It has plasticky, slick finish to it. It stiffens up as the time goes by.

The good: Tension maintenance is very good with this string. It played very nicely for about 6 hrs. I cut it out around 8hr mark where control became an issue. It withstood the sunny humid 90 degree weather very nicely. Every time I came out with it it surprised me how well it still played. Spin is above average as is control. It didn't notch almost at all. Very durable.

The bad: It was an adjustment hitting with Max Power Rough side by side. The string is quite slippery and a bit too springy for my taste, felt like rubber, but not overly powerful on full swings. I hit a lot of shots long to begin with; most drop shots and drop volleys would sit up ready to get killed. I was ready to cut this thing out after the first day. It seemed to play better the following day. Comfort was just ok. Not painful but not soft either specifically after time went by. Started off springy and quite soft. Got dull and firm after 3 outings.

Overall - THUMBS UP. It is very playable and good match for big hitting. Like any other poly It needs a full fast swing to do it's job. Slower swings were a bit bouncy ( I am sure that is something that could be adjusted over time). It does everything right and checks out in all departments. No complaints with this one and although it started off a bit funky it seems to be a very balanced string that will not disappoint any polyester fan.
looks like I have not added this to the list... sloppy me.
I have tested 2 other Toalson polyesters and will transfer my notes to the table asap.
Also I managed to put in a few hours with Polyfibre Panthera. Will write a paragraph on it soon.
 

Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
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Toalson ProFocus 1.30

This one gives a noticeable bump in directional control. They call this "pinpoint accuracy polyester" and that is what you get. Power is low, feel is fairly muted, spin adequate. It is still firm at contact like most polyesters. Out of the 3 Toalson string I have tried I liked this one the most. Control reminded me of Luxilon 4G - pick a spot, place the ball exactly there. No funny launch angles, no spraying, no unnecessary springiness.You get what you give. Profocus is designed for a big hitting player in mind; I could swing all out on my shots and the ball dropped in most of the time. Life is average. Control started suffering after about 3hrs. I cut it out after about 7hrs. Still it is a solid, well balanced offering from Toalson.
 

mscream

Professional
I still have a Toalson string I need to test as well, the round version of Devil Spin (can't remember the name).
 

mscream

Professional
I have not used the 1.20 gauge. 1.25 and 1.30 is what I have tried and there is noticeable difference in feel. In general terms the thicker the string the more "feedback" or "feel" you will get. Both are very subjective but in my experience what it translates to is how much the feel is pronounced at contact. So let's say if MP Rough has a moderately muted and firm feel at contact the thicker gauge will increase that feel since there is more string at contact with the ball. Conversely thinner string will have less of the feel but more bite. It is all a matter of personal preference and some strings play very differently across the gauges.
I wouldn't do 1.20mm or less in a very open pattern, it looses tension and dies very fast. 16g and 17g of any kind are usually fine in any 16x19 and other open patterns. 16g in 18x20 doesn't work too good unless you hit flat.

If you play with a more open string pattern, go for the 1.25 mm or even 1.30 in a spin effect or Pure Aero racquet. I play with 1.20 in the DR98, which works well for me, but I prefer 1.20 strings in that racquet. Another possible issue is weight, the difference between 1.20 and 1.30 could affect the overall balance if you are sensitive to that.
 

Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
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Toalson Thermaxe 1.23

It is a polyester that does everything right but it is somewhat.. hmmm uneventful. Firm with decent control and spin but did not wow me with anything. It had a nice bite but lacked feel. It reminded me of Tourna Big Hitter Silver. Crisp, kinda firm, delivers in all areas but wouldn't use it on daily basis. After trying two really nice strings I was excited to see what this one has to offer and the experience was flat. I wouldn't say disappointing but once again, no wows.

With that said I enjoyed playing with all Toalson strings I have tried to date. They are quality products, the company has been on the market forever. It is much more popular in Europe but doesn't make it to the US market for some reason. Unless you are 200 years old you will more than likely not recognize the brand... none of the young guns I play with have ever heard of it; they know Alu Power, RPM Blast and Solinco lol
 
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