Better for tennis if Chung beats Federer

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
As the heads of Federer fans explode, I will explain.
Roger Federer is 36. He's now one of the oldest players in the ATP. He won 2 grand Slams last year. He's (or will likely be) the last man of the Big 4 to remain fit. Murray has likely lost his battle to injury, and Djokovic is fighting the tide. Nadal is still dominating, but he's becoming increasingly inconsistent and injury-prone. Not a recipe for longevity.
A generation of 30+ players should not be favored to win titles anymore. Even the players who were in the past (Connors, Agassi, Laver) didn't win majors this long, and were few and far between. There is no new generation stepping up yet to take the mantle, which is why the ATP is desperately trying to prop the young players up. Dimitrov and Zverev are the only guys who have really done much, and Zverev still hasn't made it past the 4R of a Slam.
The Big 3 are all legends. I still admire and root for Djokovic. The hype will always be there until they retire.
But at this age that's what they should be. Legends. The fact that they're still around only adds to the mythos around them, but it also says that the sport isn't developing. The tour, and TTW, have descended into a grim uncertainty about the future of tennis. For the first time in tennis, there is no Grand Slam winner in their prime. Cilic is arguably an exception, but it's unlikely to see him bag another, unless he makes another shock title run (AO18 might be his last chance). Wawrinka and Murray are fading. Djokovic and Nadal's V8 engines are getting worn out, the price paid for brute-forcing their way through Federer's empire. Del Potro is unpredictable and a nostalgic favorite, but the injuries and age have taken a toll on even him. And Federer....even Superman ages.

Life must go on. So must tennis.
If Chung beats Federer, that's a step in the right direction. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see Federer get injured or something. But the Big 3 aren't getting any better at this age. The first conqueror was Stan, who showed the big 4 that they were beatable. But he was one man, also in his late career. A new generation, one made up of younger, more consistent, more driven players must rise.

A win for Hyeon is a win for tennis.
 

True Fanerer

G.O.A.T.
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fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
As the heads of Federer fans explode, I will explain.
Roger Federer is 36. He's now one of the oldest players in the ATP. He won 2 grand Slams last year. He's (or will likely be) the last man of the Big 4 to remain fit. Murray has likely lost his battle to injury, and Djokovic is fighting the tide. Nadal is still dominating, but he's becoming increasingly inconsistent and injury-prone. Not a recipe for longevity.
A generation of 30+ players should not be favored to win titles anymore. Even the players who were in the past (Connors, Agassi, Laver) didn't win majors this long, and were few and far between. There is no new generation stepping up yet to take the mantle, which is why the ATP is desperately trying to prop the young players up. Dimitrov and Zverev are the only guys who have really done much, and Zverev still hasn't made it past the 4R of a Slam.
The Big 3 are all legends. I still admire and root for Djokovic. The hype will always be there until they retire.
But at this age that's what they should be. Legends. The fact that they're still around only adds to the mythos around them, but it also says that the sport isn't developing. The tour, and TTW, have descended into a grim uncertainty about the future of tennis. For the first time in tennis, there is no Grand Slam winner in their prime. Cilic is arguably an exception, but it's unlikely to see him bag another, unless he makes another shock title run (AO18 might be his last chance). Wawrinka and Murray are fading. Djokovic and Nadal's V8 engines are getting worn out, the price paid for brute-forcing their way through Federer's empire. Del Potro is unpredictable and a nostalgic favorite, but the injuries and age have taken a toll on even him. And Federer....even Superman ages.

Life must go on. So must tennis.
If Chung beats Federer, that's a step in the right direction. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see Federer get injured or something. But the Big 3 aren't getting any better at this age. The first conqueror was Stan, who showed the big 4 that they were beatable. But he was one man, also in his late career. A new generation, one made up of younger, more consistent, more driven players must rise.

A win for Hyeon is a win for tennis.


Didn’t read.
 

Skeletroll

Rookie
This is very true. Many people want to see Federer win more slams but these people are also the same who complain about the new gen being garbage. Tennis will lose popularity when the big 4 retire anyway so a changing of the guard would be better than tennis simply becoming less popular.
 

Enga

Hall of Fame
Well it's a good thing this is sports then. Not "sports entertainment". If one player is so good that he can single handedly kill the sport just by winning on occasion, then I say let the sport die. Although that is pretty unlikely. I prefer the integrity of sportsmanship and competition over longevity of the sport. It's just a game, and all games will come to an end some day.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
As the heads of Federer fans explode, I will explain.
Roger Federer is 36. He's now one of the oldest players in the ATP. He won 2 grand Slams last year. He's (or will likely be) the last man of the Big 4 to remain fit. Murray has likely lost his battle to injury, and Djokovic is fighting the tide. Nadal is still dominating, but he's becoming increasingly inconsistent and injury-prone. Not a recipe for longevity.
A generation of 30+ players should not be favored to win titles anymore. Even the players who were in the past (Connors, Agassi, Laver) didn't win majors this long, and were few and far between. There is no new generation stepping up yet to take the mantle, which is why the ATP is desperately trying to prop the young players up. Dimitrov and Zverev are the only guys who have really done much, and Zverev still hasn't made it past the 4R of a Slam.
The Big 3 are all legends. I still admire and root for Djokovic. The hype will always be there until they retire.
But at this age that's what they should be. Legends. The fact that they're still around only adds to the mythos around them, but it also says that the sport isn't developing. The tour, and TTW, have descended into a grim uncertainty about the future of tennis. For the first time in tennis, there is no Grand Slam winner in their prime. Cilic is arguably an exception, but it's unlikely to see him bag another, unless he makes another shock title run (AO18 might be his last chance). Wawrinka and Murray are fading. Djokovic and Nadal's V8 engines are getting worn out, the price paid for brute-forcing their way through Federer's empire. Del Potro is unpredictable and a nostalgic favorite, but the injuries and age have taken a toll on even him. And Federer....even Superman ages.

Life must go on. So must tennis.
If Chung beats Federer, that's a step in the right direction. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see Federer get injured or something. But the Big 3 aren't getting any better at this age. The first conqueror was Stan, who showed the big 4 that they were beatable. But he was one man, also in his late career. A new generation, one made up of younger, more consistent, more driven players must rise.

A win for Hyeon is a win for tennis.
Dismissed. Chung can wait, Federer not. Clock is ticking.
 

Newballs

Professional
They've all been a disappointment. Some of them should have been stepping up by now IMO. They all have their issues.
Can’t totally disagree there...
Things are moving a little slower than I like.
Seems like consistency issues for the most part. Dimitrov took Cincy & WTF, after his win over Nick (which I though was solid) I was expecting a repeat of last years semi. (which is obviously shot in the a** anyway now)
 

EloQuent

Legend
Fed has said many times in the recent years he is all for the young generation to nudge him out. But he is not going to voluntarily make way for them.

if Chung has it in him let him show his mettle and take Fed out.
So long as he doesn't whine about Fed making him look bad, like ahem some others
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Big time. My favorite player now is Mr. Chung. One match at a time. Hope he absolutely bitzkriegs that tennys dude. Hoping for bagels.
 

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
I will leave this nugget here for sudden Chung Lovers:

Federer won the 2007 Australian Open as the defending champion without a set. Interesting this tournament featured first time GS appearance of Cilic. All the usual suspects lost in earlier rounds. Nadal lost in the what round? That’s right in the QFs. Ivan Ljubicic who now coaches Federer lost in the first round.

Yes, I could be jinxing Roger by talking about it. But I don’t care. It would by crazy this happened again after 11yrs?
 

Legend of Borg

G.O.A.T.
if fed can school zverev/chung/shapo then they need to get better, it shouldn't have to come to fed literally tanking so the new gen can have a shot at winning

if chung wants this, he's gotta earn it and something tells me he's gonna fall short
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Lol all those years the screaming of weak era we need new faces and the young guns to save tennis. Now the tune has changed? Lmao what an absolute farce. Cmon Chung kick ass and take names. We need you to save tennis!
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Hell yeah it better for tennis. Far more than just beating djokovic and nadal. Have to go to the source of what is ruining tennis. The top i tell you!
 

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
Lol all those years the screaming of weak era we need new faces and the young guns to save tennis. Now the tune has changed? Lmao what an absolute farce. Cmon Chung kick ass and take names. We need you to save tennis!
Chung is a new Djokovic. Not a baby Djoker. The new Djoker.
Hopefully
 

ACE of Hearts

Bionic Poster
if fed can school zverev/chung/shapo then they need to get better, it shouldn't have to come to fed literally tanking so the new gen can have a shot at winning

if chung wants this, he's gotta earn it and something tells me he's gonna fall short

Exactly. Fed ain't giving up winning slams unless someone beats him constantly
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Chung is a new Djokovic. Not a baby Djoker. The new Djoker.
Hopefully
I am hoping big time. We need him to be long term not a one and done. The only big weakness is the serve. If he can shore that up he has the mental game. Maybe get becker on board. :p;)
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
we're not sleeping on him

he's making america great again, one match at a time
Lol merica aint ever gonna be great again. Once the great herds of bison were exterminated it was all down hill. The resources and true wealth of the continent were ejected like a popped balloon. Illusions and delusions getting something for nothing fantasy island disneyland dream upon a star etc etc are big bizness and the intrinsic culture of the good ole usa. So we will keep on bolievin.
 

Federev

Legend
As the heads of Federer fans explode, I will explain.
Roger Federer is 36. He's now one of the oldest players in the ATP. He won 2 grand Slams last year. He's (or will likely be) the last man of the Big 4 to remain fit. Murray has likely lost his battle to injury, and Djokovic is fighting the tide. Nadal is still dominating, but he's becoming increasingly inconsistent and injury-prone. Not a recipe for longevity.
A generation of 30+ players should not be favored to win titles anymore. Even the players who were in the past (Connors, Agassi, Laver) didn't win majors this long, and were few and far between. There is no new generation stepping up yet to take the mantle, which is why the ATP is desperately trying to prop the young players up. Dimitrov and Zverev are the only guys who have really done much, and Zverev still hasn't made it past the 4R of a Slam.
The Big 3 are all legends. I still admire and root for Djokovic. The hype will always be there until they retire.
But at this age that's what they should be. Legends. The fact that they're still around only adds to the mythos around them, but it also says that the sport isn't developing. The tour, and TTW, have descended into a grim uncertainty about the future of tennis. For the first time in tennis, there is no Grand Slam winner in their prime. Cilic is arguably an exception, but it's unlikely to see him bag another, unless he makes another shock title run (AO18 might be his last chance). Wawrinka and Murray are fading. Djokovic and Nadal's V8 engines are getting worn out, the price paid for brute-forcing their way through Federer's empire. Del Potro is unpredictable and a nostalgic favorite, but the injuries and age have taken a toll on even him. And Federer....even Superman ages.

Life must go on. So must tennis.
If Chung beats Federer, that's a step in the right direction. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see Federer get injured or something. But the Big 3 aren't getting any better at this age. The first conqueror was Stan, who showed the big 4 that they were beatable. But he was one man, also in his late career. A new generation, one made up of younger, more consistent, more driven players must rise.

A win for Hyeon is a win for tennis.
Good post
Well written
Articulated with class
Intelligent argument
Seriously.

But...No thank you. Me wants me some #20

If Berdych or Chung want it they gots to earn it.

And I’d rather see Thomas take it, actually. He’s been so consistent for so long.

But he’s got to earn it too. And I hope he doesn’t.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Been a fan of chung since he got on the tour. Just seems like the coolest young gun. Dudes got wheels. Reminds me a little of connors and djokovic.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Lol all those years the screaming of weak era we need new faces and the young guns to save tennis. Now the tune has changed? Lmao what an absolute farce. Cmon Chung kick ass and take names. We need you to save tennis!

Tennis is saved with your hero put out to pasture IMO. Good riddance.

On the other hand, I would've liked to see a Federer-Nadal final as that's always box office regardless of the result.
 

Federev

Legend
I am hoping big time. We need him to be long term not a one and done. The only big weakness is the serve. If he can shore that up he has the mental game. Maybe get becker on board. :p;)

Yeah, but he's gotta back it up. If he gets schooled by Fed/Tomas, then it says more about Chung than Sandgren

Yeah - you guys should chill a bit - Chung beat a severely hampered Novak. Chung could sense his opponents level, like any good player can. And It gave him hope, it helped him calm down and not be intimidated, and it helped him him think clearly. And so he was able to move into the court and take slower balls and paint the lines with a lot more courage ... all because he could tell he was playing a guy he could beat.

But that was not Novak Djokovic anywhere near his best that he beat.

Novak at his best would have destroyed that kid last night.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Aww you are so cute when you are insane.

Oh, I see, I'm insane for disliking Djokovic but you're sane as can be for disparaging Federer non-stop? Double standard much?

At least some of the crazier NoleFam members have disappeared back into their holes since the Djokovic loss. Who knows when they'll feel safe to pop back up? Maybe their absence will be permanent?
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Chung winning the whole thing would indeed be good for tennis. I'm still rooting for Federer but if he has to lose to someone Chung would be my pick - provided Chung stops Cilic from winning #2 in the final.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Yeah - you guys should chill a bit - Chung beat a severely hampered Novak. Chung could sense his opponents level, like any good player can. And It gave him hope, it helpedhim Calm down and not be intimidated, and it helped him him think clearly, and so he was able to paint the lines with a lot more courage because he could tell he was playing a guy he could beat.

But that was not Novak Djokovic anywhere near his best that he beat he beat.

Novak at his best would have destroyed that kid last night.
Well i try not to discredit his win. He had a big win over zverev. Federer will prob destroy him. That serve is not going to help him. Which is s bummer. He seems to be the best young gun mentally.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Oh, I see, I'm insane for disliking Djokovic but you're sane as can be for disparaging Federer non-stop? Double standard much?

At least some of the crazier NoleFam members have disappeared back into their holes since the Djokovic loss. Who knows when they'll feel safe to pop back up? Maybe their absence will be permanent?
Whatever dude.
 
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