2018 French Open QF: RAFA (1) vs DieGOAT (11)

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

Yes . Damn that man.

They shouldn’t allow Gods to play

 

[D.Nalby12]

OH boy, in this thread, Rafa fans are completely outnumbered by Federer fanatics.

Not just in this thread.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

It's nearly impossible to beat nadal. All the stars must align for that to happen.

1. Must play out of your mind for the whole entire match.
2. Nadal must be playing like crap.
3. There must not be any delays or interruptions, otherwise said player is 99% doomed.

Chances of all 3 happening, long enough for Nadal to lose is nearly impossible.

I don't get this kind of thing. I see where it's coming from, but he can't win forever. At some point he's going to stop being like he always has been.

At some point an average guy, playing pretty average, is going to beat Nadal at RG despite not everything going in his favour.
Why can't today be that day? He's only human.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

OH boy, in this thread, Rafa fans are completely outnumbered by Federer fanatics.

Sort of like when the VB took over the match thread when they thought Cilic was going to win that 5th set in the AO Final.

Only to disappear until CC season.

 

[Red Rick]

The standaard question from someone who wasn’t watching: Diego good or Nadal bad?

The latter enabling the former.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Rafa is not playing well at all, and that is with all credit to Diego, who is a mental giant out there.

 

[Ray Mercer]

Nothing would be sweeter than to see Nadal go down to Schwartzy. That scumbag Nadal has been getting away with crap for way too long.

 

[NatF]

What are the chances of play resuming today?

 

[paul wu]

is the match restarting today

 

[EloQuent]

Fed fans were VERY quick to attack him at the AO too, cheater bla bla bla until he actually retired and shut their mouths.

We shut our mouths? I don't remember that

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

The only thing that annoys me is when Fed fans accuse Rafa of cheating.

They go crazy cause Rafa takes 2 or 3 seconds more on his service

 

[VaporDude95]

The only thing that annoys me is when Fed fans accuse Rafa of cheating.

But he literally does cheat though

 

[ThirdEye]

Sooooo... Still raining?

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Good point. I still think Nadal is winning anyway, but you often see it with Nadal at RG. He wears out his opponents because they're hitting every ball at 110% trying to hit winners, so if it lasts it's only for a set, maybe set and a half max and then they tire out and Nadal destroys them.

The only way nadal’s winning is if he starts zoning. His serve has been atrocious. That has to improve.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Rafa is not playing well at all, and that is with all credit to Diego, who is a mental giant out there.

I see what you did there you bully.

 

[ibbi]

The standaard question from someone who wasn’t watching: Diego good or Nadal bad?

In the first set Diego was VERY good. If you'll look at Rafa's serve stats they are not good, but that's at least partially because of how much Schwartzman was pouncing on every little opportunity (Nadal was at 48% first serve points won in the first set!) Diego is hitting it way harder than Nadal off both wings so keeping him pinned way back, he hit 20 winners in the first set to Nadal's 3. He's just dominating him, and rattled him to the point that Rafa is missing easy shots he'd never miss in a million years, easy put aways at net, overheads he's normally so safe on, he looks really bad.

 

[Goosehead]

some fun drumming to listen to during the delay.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

If Nad loses this or loses at all this week, everyone is going to be soooo shocked. I don't get that.
It's like people expect him to go forever.

Winning RG is hard, even if Nadal makes it look easy. If he's not playing well, he will lose.

 

[Red Rick]

Good to see that Schwartzman's efforts are making way for more Fedal cancer.

TTW can never see enough Fedal cancer.

 

[Nadal15thslam]

And his devastating injury turned out to be a minor hip flexor pull that sidelined him for what, two weeks?

And your point is? He lost that match because of retirement and didn't take a "fake MTO" and didn't cheat like he often is accused of.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

Nothing would be sweeter than to see Nadal go down to Schwartzy. That scumbag Nadal has been getting away with crap for way too long.

You’re saying it like if he caused the rain

 

[Towser83]

Always the same logic from trolls. Nadal is a lucky **** by willing the raingods for conditions that do not favour him and have been present since the start of the match just so he can get a break when those conditions get extreme enough. Point is, the deficit brought about by that condition would have gotten so large by the point he gets the break that he can't make up for it.

Again, typical hater logic. Everything that happens in the entire world is his fault. Even rain.

It's not his fault, but he's been lucky in the Rome final and now at a very important time here again though to be honest I still think he'd win this. Everyone is going to get lucky sometimes. Though earlier on with the MTO before Diego served for the match then another delay before set point... maybe it's not Rafa who is lucky today but Diego who is UNlucky.

Similar thing with Federer at Wimbledon, had a rain delay one year when Roddick was up a set and a break in the final, and though he didn't win in 2008, I think he was 2 sets down before a rain delay to Nadal? It's just this coming so soon after Rome vs Zverev, people are going to go "wow, again?!" Over the course of a whole career, the rain has probably not favoured Nadal more than any other big player, just seems to be on a roll of it at the moment.

And yeah the conditions might not suit him that much, but that's outdoor tennis for you. Conditions can't suit one player 100% of the time, but if you are the best as Nadal is you should be able to adapt. It's like people moaning about grass becoming worn away at the end of wimbledon and thus slower.... that's the nature of the game. If you want perfect conditions, play indoors... but he doesn't like that. He's still the king of clay even if it gets damp, he can still beat anyone in damp conditions, just at the moment Diego is playing better than him. Very few though could do that over 5 sets so, dampness or not, Nadal is always the man to beat. I don't get why people act like the king of clay becomes flat out useless on it when it gets damp. Give the other guy some credit and also maybe admit Nadal will just have off days regardless of conditions.

 

[D.Nalby12]

Nadal has got just 8 winners so far. UE count must around 20. It's Diego' choking kept match this close.

 

[ultradr]

It's nearly impossible to beat nadal. All the stars must align for that to happen.

1. Must play out of your mind for the whole entire match.
2. Nadal must be playing like crap.
3. There must not be any delays or interruptions, otherwise said player is 99% doomed.

Chances of all 3 happening, long enough for Nadal to lose is nearly impossible.

Federer fans now think Rafa is a god.
Worshiping Nadal now after Federer?

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

But he literally does cheat though

I guess you must be perfect

 

[zagor]

Rafa is not playing well at all, and that is with all credit to Diego, who is a mental giant out there.

Imagine if Anderson won that match against Diego? What a dud this QF would turn out to be.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

I see what you did there you bully.

Are you saying he is not?

The man is convinced he is John Cena, and we know Cena kicks out to everything, even Nadal on clay at RG.

 

[Tennisanity]

The only thing that annoys me is when Fed fans accuse Rafa of cheating.

Why do facts annoy you?

 

[Rafa the King]

Anyone actually knows when play is expected to continue?

 

[VaporDude95]

I guess you must be perfect

I never said I was. But I don’t consistently bend the rules in anything I do.

 

[EloQuent]

Anyone actually knows when play is expected to continue?

In 2020 when they get a roof.

 

[zagor]

Anyone actually knows when play is expected to continue?

When Tio Toni stops his rain dance.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

When TTW wont stop fighting

When Federer and Del Potro starts a war and then leaves:

@ak24alive @Hydrocella

 

[RS92]

Anyone actually knows when play is expected to continue?

In 15 minutes

 

[VaporDude95]

Why do facts annoy you?

Facts don’t care about your feelings

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Imagine if Anderson won that match against Diego? What a dud this QF would turn out to be.

That is why I have actually enjoyed this RG, we didn't get too many matches that were a bunch of miscarriages.

 

[VaporDude95]

In 15 minutes

Really? Is this legit? I can’t find the news anywhere

 

[Feather]

OH boy, in this thread, Rafa fans are completely outnumbered by Federer fanatics.

stats please... like post the number of both Rafa and Roger "fanatics" in the thread .. you should be knowing that

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Nadal has got just 8 winners so far. UE count must around 20. It's Diego' choking kept match this close.

I don’t know about choking. Nadal had been able to return his serve. He has won some rallies. Diego has had to go for his shots.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

OH boy, in this thread, Rafa fans are completely outnumbered by Federer fanatics.

6:15pm in Madrid

Population of Spain is on siesta at the moment

 

[Deleted member 754093]

And your point is? He lost that match because of retirement and didn't take a "fake MTO" and didn't cheat like he often is accused of.

Fair point, but usually when someone retires from a match you usually think "oh god, what's wrong. Is it serious?" and it turned out to be a really minor thing that a lot of people would probably play through

 

[Nadal15thslam]

Why do facts annoy you?

Tell me one single match when Rafa took a MTO when he wasn't injured.

 

[edberg volleys]

looks like the match continues shortly

 

[EloQuent]

looks like the match continues shortly

haha you said shortly

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

I never said I was. But I don’t consistently bend the rules in anything I do.

That much annoys you that he takes 2-4 seconds more of his service game

 

[zagor]

It's not his fault, but he's been lucky in the Rome final and now at a very important time here again though to be honest I still think he'd win this. Everyone is going to get lucky sometimes. Though earlier on with the MTO before Diego served for the match then another delay before set point... maybe it's not Rafa who is lucky today but Diego who is UNlucky.

Similar thing with Federer at Wimbledon, had a rain delay one year when Roddick was up a set and a break in the final, and though he didn't win in 2008, I think he was 2 sets down before a rain delay to Nadal? It's just this coming so soon after Rome vs Zverev, people are going to go "wow, again?!" Over the course of a whole career, the rain has probably not favoured Nadal more than any other big player, just seems to be on a roll of it at the moment.

And yeah the conditions might not suit him that much, but that's outdoor tennis for you. Conditions can't suit one player 100% of the time, but if you are the best as Nadal is you should be able to adapt. It's like people moaning about grass becoming worn away at the end of wimbledon and thus slower.... that's the nature of the game. If you want perfect conditions, play indoors... but he doesn't like that. He's still the king of clay even if it gets damp, he can still beat anyone in damp conditions, just at the moment Diego is playing better than him. Very few though could do that over 5 sets so, dampness or not, Nadal is always the man to beat. I don't get why people act like the king of clay becomes flat out useless on it when it gets damp. Give the other guy some credit and also maybe admit Nadal will just have off days regardless of conditions.

It's not that he becomes useless in damp conditions, it's just that he's far more beatable when the ball stays low and that's true on any surface, even clay. Of course he's still a big favourite against anyone but he goes from nigh unbeatable to someone you can hang with from the baseline.

When the weather's really sunny and ball is bouncing very high I've seen even Novak struggle controlling Nadal's spin with one of the best two-handers in the history of the game.

 

[Bukowski]

Interesting how the rain delay affects the momentum.. I like how big diego is cracking it to the Nadal BH and opening up the court..
His game plan is working. Lets see how it holds up

 

[maratha_warrior]

Omg
This is RG 2012 final all over again

 

[Nadal15thslam]

Tell me one single match when Rafa took a MTO when he wasn't injured.

And I'll tell you 2 times when Federer has taken MTO's when he wasn't injured: Ao 2017 against Stan and Rafa.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Let's break down this thread during the long delay...this thread comprises of:

Federer fans who still think Nadal will win
Nadal fans that have always been here and shouldn't be memed
Nadal fans that disappear whenever Federer wins and should be memed
1 Zverev Fan
3 Thiem Fans