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Comparison to 2015 blade?
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Comparison to 2015 blade?
Sadly I need 3/8Send me a pm if you interested in the Yonex Vcore Pro HD which I have put up for sale in tt forum. I have someone who is interested but he might not take the offer.
Decided to keep the stick that was on spec and send the other one back.Just got 2 blades 18x20 V7 in. Low and behold, the unstrung specs with plastic on the grip:
First Blade:
31.8 balance 8 points HL
296,5 SW
306.1 static
Second Blade:
32.8 balance 5 points HL
301 SW
305,7 static
Opinions?
Same Experience as well. Switched from the RF97 to the new Blade
In What tension you strung the Blade with the Typhoon? I'm using Prestige Mid for years and looking to switch due to some arm problemsWow, the Clash to me had zero connection to the ball. I tried a demo of the 100 at the tennis club here and hated it because it felt like I had no idea what the ball was going to do. I liked it only because it was good on the arm but it had a good amount of power to it that I didn’t really feel full control over.
I feel very connected to the ball with the 18x20 v7, but I also would not suggest those 2 strings. This frame really sings with a crisper poly which is why I think most people are loving it with ALU style polys. RS Lyon..etc. Typhoon is a winner in it, and I just put Max Power Rough in it and that works great as well.
For me, as soon as I hit the ball with the 18x20, I know what’s going to happen. It’s great. Everyone who has tried my racquet has been highly impressed. Even my coach who has been using the same Prestige Mid for 15 years. He wants the Blade now.
In What tension you strung the Blade with the Typhoon? I'm using Prestige Mid for years and looking to switch due to some arm problems
Just came back from my first hit with this frame. I now understand the hype. Very very nice frame. It can do so much at such a low static weight. I can really hit some winners with this thing. What drew me away from the clash 100 was that I could never make a winner with it. Could grind all day, but couldnt make a winner. For me tennis is about being able to be agressive, being able to make those winners, being able to dictate a game.Decided to keep the stick that was on spec and send the other one back.
Specs after stringing with 1.20 Head lynx and Tournagrip, no dampener.
32,7 Balance
330SW
323.8 static
Will briefly hit with it today.
Welcome, my friend!Just came back from my first hit with this frame. I now understand the hype. Very very nice frame. It can do so much at such a low static weight. I can really hit some winners with this thing. What drew me away from the clash 100 was that I could never make a winner with it. Could grind all day, but couldnt make a winner. For me tennis is about being able to be agressive, being able to make those winners, being able to dictate a game.
Return of serve was crazy good, hit quite a few direct winner from it. Was able to use and redirect the pace from the server very well. Serves felt pretty good, but will need the most tweaking, as always for me with a new frame.
Felt like I could get pretty good spin on both wings, but especially on my ohbh, making for some nice net clearance.
Did you also experience more pocketing and more flex on really heavy hitting?
So far I am very very impressed, but time will tell. Need match play also. But I have the gravity pro coming this week, curious to see how I like that.
Ow almost forgot: it is crazy but this frame can be played without a dampener.
Decided to keep the stick that was on spec and send the other one back.
Specs after stringing with 1.20 Head lynx and Tournagrip, no dampener.
32,7 Balance
330SW
323.8 static
Will briefly hit wirh it today.
I purchased three matched frames in a store. BTW: It would be great not to rely on China for manufacturing. And why are they so overpriced if they are made in China? It seem prices have gone up a lot in recent years.Half of this board is complaining the price of $230 is too much, now you want them to move the production to the US and charge $320 per racket?
One solution is to get off our butts and buy the racket in a store (like PGA superstore for example) where we can measure the spec.
Of course, not everyone has the access to a local tennis shop, however, I’d expect the majority on this board should.
It's like wearing pajamas to Walmart. Once someone does it and people shrug it off, it becomes the new norm. The RF97A was very expensive and people still bought it. Wilson can now offer the Blade at what we think is a bargain at this stage of the game.I purchased three matched frames in a store. BTW: It would be great not to rely on China for manufacturing. And why are they so overpriced if they are made in China? It seem prices have gone up a lot in recent years.
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Exactly, they tested pricing and they are selling so apparently we complain but we’re not price sensitive enough to not buyIt's like wearing pajamas to Walmart. Once someone does it and people shrug it off, it becomes the new norm. The RF97A was very expensive and people still bought it. Wilson can now offer the Blade at what we think is a bargain at this stage of the game.
Apparently this comparison has been made numerous times by numerous people throughout the thread. If you’ve got time to look back over hundreds of postsOut of curiosity, is the 2015 18x20 Blade a good proxy for the V7 18x20 Blade, or do they play substantially different? I saw local ad for some 2015 18x20 going for cheap and wondering if they play very similarly. The only Blade experience I have is my wife's stock 98S CV, which, I feel is too light.
I haven't provided any updates as I wanted for the racket feedback to sink in a bit before I post more. By now, I've put about 15 hours on the 18x20 and maybe 8-10 on the 16x19. Random thoughts below:
I've said it before and I will say it again, is it better than the 2015? Not sure but just the fact that we are wondering about it says a lot.
- Even though I typically play with the 2015 18x20, I find the V7 16x19 to work better for my strokes than the V7 18x20 when they are both at 322 gr static weight. The 18x20 is a bit more head heavy. I feel the 16x19 is tight enough that gives you all the advantages of the 16x19 with 18x20 consistency and predictability. The 16x19 gives you an "easier and safer" launch angle to clear the net and easy depth on the ball. The 18x20 might work better for someone with a more traditional flatter swing style.
- It's not a racket for everybody. Never was, never will be. It's not easy and won't give you tons of extra power. It will give you some but it will mostly reward good fundamentals, positioning and solid swings. Half swings and ping pong shots won't work with this one.
- The 16x19 plays phenomenally well with Yonex PTP yellow.
- Racket is soooooo comfy. I've played 20+ hours with it with poly and 0 pain. And I recently did have issues with early signs of TE. And no dampener, it doesn't need it.
- I love the feedback from the racket. You really know how much power and spin you put to every ball. Really gives you confidence to "shape" balls and be creative in the court.
- Serves with the 16x19 are bombs. Both 1st and 2nd are great. Nice precision and spin. I always felt that with the Blade you need to work hard for the 2nd serve to have pace but I don't feel the same way with the 16x19. Very happy on that front.
I haven't provided any updates as I wanted for the racket feedback to sink in a bit before I post more. By now, I've put about 15 hours on the 18x20 and maybe 8-10 on the 16x19. Random thoughts below:
I've said it before and I will say it again, is it better than the 2015? Not sure but just the fact that we are wondering about it says a lot.
- Even though I typically play with the 2015 18x20, I find the V7 16x19 to work better for my strokes than the V7 18x20 when they are both at 322 gr static weight. The 18x20 is a bit more head heavy. I feel the 16x19 is tight enough that gives you all the advantages of the 16x19 with 18x20 consistency and predictability. The 16x19 gives you an "easier and safer" launch angle to clear the net and easy depth on the ball. The 18x20 might work better for someone with a more traditional flatter swing style.
- It's not a racket for everybody. Never was, never will be. It's not easy and won't give you tons of extra power. It will give you some but it will mostly reward good fundamentals, positioning and solid swings. Half swings and ping pong shots won't work with this one.
- The 16x19 plays phenomenally well with Yonex PTP yellow.
- Racket is soooooo comfy. I've played 20+ hours with it with poly and 0 pain. And I recently did have issues with early signs of TE. And no dampener, it doesn't need it.
- I love the feedback from the racket. You really know how much power and spin you put to every ball. Really gives you confidence to "shape" balls and be creative in the court.
- Serves with the 16x19 are bombs. Both 1st and 2nd are great. Nice precision and spin. I always felt that with the Blade you need to work hard for the 2nd serve to have pace but I don't feel the same way with the 16x19. Very happy on that front.
I think 18x20 and 16x19 have the same balance but 18x20 feels head heavier due to higher swingweight. also agree with Power player in the sense that not sure if 18x20 is more suitable for flat hitter.. i have eastern grip and probably more flat hitter than topspin... i do get good arc to the ball on my groundstrokes.. i love that i can swing away with 18x20 and control is there but the only thing i noticed on OHBH and on serve returns is the low launch angle. It does gives me a bit of trouble.. working on it.. similar to you will post more feedback as i put significant amount of time into 18x20 and then 16x19 to compare. So far been hitting with 18x20 only.. love the racquet.. SW is a pleasure.. my only pick is on launch angle tbh..The 18x20 is a bit more head heavy. I feel the 16x19 is tight enough that gives you all the advantages of the 16x19 with 18x20 consistency and predictability. The 16x19 gives you an "easier and safer" launch angle to clear the net and easy depth on the ball. The 18x20 might work better for someone with a more traditional flatter swing style
Agreed, I think the whole notion that 18x20 is for flat hitters is harmful. I’ve historically avoided 18x20 because of the “lack of spin”, but since switching to the Ultra Tour I would probably say that I’m hitting with more spin than I have ever done before.Nice, only thing I disagree with is the 18x20 and a traditional swing style. I have a strong SW grip and modern swing the 18x20 is perfect for me. It has really nice power so I can brush the ball a little and still get lots of easy depth.
Nice, only thing I disagree with is the 18x20 and a traditional swing style. I have a strong SW grip and modern swing the 18x20 is perfect for me. It has really nice power so I can brush the ball a little and still get lots of easy depth.
I think 18x20 and 16x19 have the same balance but 18x20 feels head heavier due to higher swingweight. also agree with Power player in the sense that not sure if 18x20 is more suitable for flat hitter.. i have eastern grip and probably more flat hitter than topspin... i do get good arc to the ball on my groundstrokes.. i love that i can swing away with 18x20 and control is there but the only thing i noticed on OHBH and on serve returns is the low launch angle. It does gives me a bit of trouble.. working on it.. similar to you will post more feedback as i put significant amount of time into 18x20 and then 16x19 to compare. So far been hitting with 18x20 only.. love the racquet.. SW is a pleasure.. my only pick is on launch angle tbh..
I believe the general rule is that strings add roughly 30 to the swing weight. So add 30 to any of those sw you should get somwehere near 328.Guys,
Need your help. Just ordered a second 16x19 version because it is now my main stick. I paid the extra eur 20 for the quality control and I need to choose among the following 6 rackets. Which one would you choose considering the fact that I also tested the 18x20 version but I found the SW a little bit too high for me.
I am thinking about choosing the racket no. 6 because it seems to be a good balance. But swingweight isn't supposed to be near 328 according to official specs ?? It seems so much lower...
Weight swingweight balance RA
Raquette 1 : 307,2Gr 294 31,9 63
Raquette 2 : 307Gr 294 31,9 63
Raquette 3 : 309,7Gr 302 32,2 64
Raquette 4 : 310,3Gr 307 32,4 64
Raquette 5 : 307,6Gr 295 31,8 64
Raquette 6 : 308,8Gr 298 32 63
Thank you for your help!
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Guys,
Need your help. Just ordered a second 16x19 version because it is now my main stick. I paid the extra eur 20 for the quality control and I need to choose among the following 6 rackets. Which one would you choose considering the fact that I also tested the 18x20 version but I found the SW a little bit too high for me.
I am thinking about choosing the racket no. 6 because it seems to be a good balance. But swingweight isn't supposed to be near 328 according to official specs ?? It seems so much lower...
Weight swingweight balance RA
Raquette 1 : 307,2Gr 294 31,9 63
Raquette 2 : 307Gr 294 31,9 63
Raquette 3 : 309,7Gr 302 32,2 64
Raquette 4 : 310,3Gr 307 32,4 64
Raquette 5 : 307,6Gr 295 31,8 64
Raquette 6 : 308,8Gr 298 32 63
Thank you for your help!
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I believe the general rule is that strings add roughly 30 to the swing weight. So add 30 to any of those sw you should get somwehere near 328.
The main issue should be which one comes closest to the one you currently have.
Out of curiosity, is the 2015 18x20 Blade a good proxy for the V7 18x20 Blade, or do they play substantially different? I saw local ad for some 2015 18x20 going for cheap and wondering if they play very similarly. The only Blade experience I have is my wife's stock 98S CV, which, I feel is too light.
Agreed, I think the whole notion that 18x20 is for flat hitters is harmful. I’ve historically avoided 18x20 because of the “lack of spin”, but since switching to the Ultra Tour I would probably say that I’m hitting with more spin than I have ever done before.
Guys,
Need your help. Just ordered a second 16x19 version because it is now my main stick. I paid the extra eur 20 for the quality control and I need to choose among the following 6 rackets. Which one would you choose considering the fact that I also tested the 18x20 version but I found the SW a little bit too high for me.
I am thinking about choosing the racket no. 6 because it seems to be a good balance. But swingweight isn't supposed to be near 328 according to official specs ?? It seems so much lower...
Weight swingweight balance RA
Raquette 1 : 307,2Gr 294 31,9 63
Raquette 2 : 307Gr 294 31,9 63
Raquette 3 : 309,7Gr 302 32,2 64
Raquette 4 : 310,3Gr 307 32,4 64
Raquette 5 : 307,6Gr 295 31,8 64
Raquette 6 : 308,8Gr 298 32 63
Thank you for your help!
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my goal was to make the racquet more HL and whippier by adding about 7-8gr to handle of the 18x20... last night i took the weight off and played stock this morning (just an over grip which is 5gr weight). balance is about 4pts... total static weight 330gr. SW is about 335ish.. i like this better.. with such high SW (at least for me high) it seems the point is that keep the overall racquet weight light. I don't think weight in the handle achieved what I initially thought it would achieve. I actually feel like it made the racquet heavier overall and less maneuverable.. this is all IMO. i actually feel like I am managing the racquet better now stock. I will keep it stock. With small adjustments and getting used to launch angle as well. I really do think this blade may put an end to my racquet search. Such a good balanced racquet. I don't think I would be able to use it a year ago but I play a lot of tennis and getting better at it and can appreciate this frame more than I would have back then. My coach thinks it is really a good fit for me as well. Next week I will try HD (since i ordered it), but it has a high bar to compare to. Let's see how it goes.
Are Wilson grips bigger or smaller than Yonex? I use 4 3/8 in yonex and wanted to confirm.
Also, are bigger grips heavier (e.g., 4 1/4 will be lighter than 4 3/8)?
I am not sure but this is the best thread ever... you may find some answers there..Are Wilson grips bigger or smaller than Yonex? I use 4 3/8 in yonex and wanted to confirm.
Also, are bigger grips heavier (e.g., 4 1/4 will be lighter than 4 3/8)?
Are any of you going with full poly in the 16x19 at lower 40's (lbs) for tension? If so, how does it feel and what string are you using? I am experimenting.
I will but I haven't picked one up yet. I'll do ALU 16L probably 44 ish and another in 4G. In reality because my machine is kinda old actual tension could be lower. I'll report back.
Gravity Pro is well Pro stick it takes more out of you to get best results imho.Can anyone here comment a bit on the power of this frame compared to Gravity Pro? I have a Gravity Pro, and really just put a leather grip on and an overgrip and at times if not making good topspin form, found the racquet to have too much power at times, and it was difficult to maneuver at times, especially on serve.
I played with the BLX blade and the Black blade from 2013 (18x20) for over 3 years. Loved those frames, but went away from them after having shoulder injury that prevented me from playing for 6 months. I hit with the 2015 Blade for a while (demoed) and really enjoyed it.
I am just starting to fear is my form crap or is the Gravity pro with its static weight being higher and higher swingweight the issue? I value good control and don't struggle with swinging big on groundstrokes. Looking for opinions from those here that have really been using this for few weeks now.
For past 4 years I've used weighted up Prince Classic Graphite 100s to about 12.0oz and SW around 326-328.
Thanks!
Which is why I am hopeful perhaps that Blade could work better. The Gravity for every 2 great shots would lead to 1-2 shots almost hitting fence. I could also have been overhitting alot and not trusting its weight to do all the work, but to me that doesn't feel as natural.Gravity Pro is well Pro stick it takes more out of you to get best results imho.
I had the same issue I was going to string it up at 60lb next but then I realized why am I doing this there are better players on this forum that can use this stick so I listed it instead lolWhich is why I am hopeful perhaps that Blade could work better. The Gravity for every 2 great shots would lead to 1-2 shots almost hitting fence. I could also have been overhitting alot and not trusting its weight to do all the work, but to me that doesn't feel as natural.
I feel better I'm not alone lol. But you're not having that problem with the Blade?I had the same issue I was going to string it up at 60lb next but then I realized why am I doing this there are better players on this forum that can use this stick so I listed it instead lol
Which is why I am hopeful perhaps that Blade could work better. The Gravity for every 2 great shots would lead to 1-2 shots almost hitting fence. I could also have been overhitting alot and not trusting its weight to do all the work, but to me that doesn't feel as natural.
Exactly, so not sure if I should be worried about the Blade not working then. Again, its 99% most likely me sucking, but never know.Both sticks have almost identical power zones using the TWU comparison tool. It’s almost as if you take some handle weight out of the Gravity and voila you have the Blade v7. I never hit the Gravity, but I’ve played similar setups and the added mass is great but it takes a takes a toll too.
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You should have read my post (just little bit above yours) and that of Parasailing before choosing racket 6 imho.Thank you ! However 294 is too low swingweight so I choose number 6 to have 328 swingweight strung which is closer to my favorites specs
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