2021 Roland Garros - Men's Singles QF - Daniil Medvedev (2) vs Stefanos Tsitsipas (5)

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dapchai

dapchai

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zuluzazu said:
Lol imagine if Djoko after defeating the titans namely Tennys, Cuevas, Berankis and Musseti goes on to beat Berrettini, Schwartzman and Medvedev(on clay). That would be the real thoughtest draw of all time
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Medvedev looks good so far. Let's wait until after his match vs Tsits to see his true level. Garín was gassed today.
 
dapchai

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Djokovic_is_the_best#1 said:
I agree with you. Taking Meddy in 5 but this could easily go tsitsipas way too
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If Tsits loses then he will prolly be hopeless everywhere against Med. His best surface is (according to him) clay, which is also Med's supposedly worst. Indeed the clay courts at RG this year "look" like hard courts, but a loss would be enough to shatter Tsits's hope whenever he meets Med.
 
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lordlosh

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If i had to guess i will go with Tsitsipas in 4th if he slip somewhere, if not he will get the job done in 3. There is layers to this game.
Medvedev is a hard opponent for Tsitsipas, because of his flat low game, but on Clay this will be different. The H2H is in Medvedev favor, but he is almost 3 year older than Tsitsipas, which made a huge difference in the H2H so far. This will change in the future, mark my words.
If it was on HC i would have favor Medvedev at this phase of their career, cause Tsitsipas need to improve more on HC, but on Clay i think Tsitsipas will be able to handle Medvedev game.
It's all about the styles, but this court will favor Tsitsipas.
 
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lordlosh

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dapchai said:
If Tsits loses then he will prolly be hopeless everywhere against Med. His best surface is (according to him) clay, which is also Med's supposedly worst. Indeed the clay courts at RG this year "look" like hard courts, but a loss would be enough to shatter Tsits's hope whenever he meets Med.
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Nonsenses. Tsitsipas was 0-2 against FAA, and he have said by himself that he lost tons of matches against FAA and he never manage to beat him on court before(obviously on their teen years or so), and Tsitsipas is now leading 4-2, with 4 straight victory over FAA.
The H2H against Medvedev will change, even if Tsitsipas is to lose that match. He is learning from his loses.
Nadal trashed Tsitsipas at AO 2019, yet Tsitsipas few months later manage to beat Nadal on Clay.
Nadal was leading 6-1 in the H2H and 2-0 at AO, and Tsitsipas manage to beat him.
Tsitsipas is rock mentally, and he will continue to improve.
 
dapchai

dapchai

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lordlosh said:
Nonsenses. Tsitsipas was 0-2 against FAA, and he have said by himself that he lost tons of matches against FAA and he never manage to beat him on court before(obviously on their teen years or so), and Tsitsipas is now leading 4-2, with 4 straight victory over FAA.
The H2H against Medvedev will change, even if Tsitsipas is to lose that match. He is learning from his loses.
Nadal trashed Tsitsipas at AO 2019, yet Tsitsipas few months later manage to beat Nadal on Clay.
Nadal was leading 6-1 in the H2H and 2-0 at AO, and Tsitsipas manage to beat him.
Tsitsipas is rock mentally, and he will continue to improve.
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Comparing Medvedev to FAA is even more nonsensical. Tsits has never met FAA at a slam. The AO is currently Tsits's best slam but he ended up being schooled by Med at the SF earlier this year, and the upcoming QF match is at RG where Tsits is supposedly doing (much) better than Med. Tsits's only win against Med was at the 2019 ATP Finals where Med was physically burned out, so if the Greek loses on Tuesday he will probably be hopeless against the Russian for a long time.

Comparing Medvedev to Nadal is also ridiculous given their age gap. Tsits lost to Nadal at the AO 2019 then defeated the Spaniard at Madrid later that year, but that's a Masters, not a slam. His win against Rafa at the AO 2021 was a reflection of Rafa's declined physical ability. Medvedev is only two years older than Tsits though.
 
Jokervich

Jokervich

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dapchai said:
Probably Medvedev. His defense is off the charts, even though his opponents didn't look sharp. I expect a long match but won't be surprised if a beatdown happens.
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Love how you're covering all eventualities lol. You may as well say "I have no clue what will happen" although that will make you look bad, so you don't :-D
 
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lordlosh

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dapchai said:
Comparing Medvedev to FAA is even more nonsensical. Tsits has never met FAA at a slam. The AO is currently Tsits's best slam but he ended up being schooled by Med at the SF earlier this year, and the upcoming QF match is at RG where Tsits is supposedly doing (much) better than Med. Tsits's only win against Med was at the 2019 ATP Finals where Med was physically burned out, so if the Greek loses on Tuesday he will probably be hopeless against the Russian for a long time.

Comparing Medvedev to Nadal is also ridiculous given their age gap. Tsits lost to Nadal at the AO 2019 then defeated the Spaniard at Madrid later that year, but that's a Masters, not a slam. His win against Rafa at the AO 2021 was a reflection of Rafa's declined physical ability. Medvedev is only two years older than Tsits though.
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He get schooled, cause he had a very tough and mental battle against Nadal, that end up in 5th setter, you very well manage to forget that. Tsitsipas was 100% spend after that match, and everyone can saw it.
Tsitsipas best court so far is Clay by far. He also have 1/2 final here before.
The difference between Tsitsipas and Medvedev is exactly 2,5 year, and this is a huge factor, when one of the guy is 22 year.
6 of their matches are from 2018 and 2019, Medvedev have 5 wins in there, Tsitsipas was 19 and 20 at that time, while Medvedev was 22-23. It's like Tsitsipas of now to face 19-20 years old Medvedev, should i even tell you what the result will been ?
And comparing Nadal to Medeved at that point is an insult. Everyone on the f***** world will tell you that beating Nadal being 2 set down is the hardest thing to done in tennis.
It happen just 2 time, and just 1 time on a GS.
If Tsitsipas have zero problem against Nadal and winning matches against him, it will be the same against Medvedev.
Still this is something that will be proven in the next few years, so we will be here and see.
Again even if Tsitsipas lose 3 straight times to Medvedev, he won't have any mental b.c. barrier playing against him in the future. The guy is built different. This things play zero role in his game.
 
El_Yotamo

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Isn't there like a minimum Berrettini requirement for it to be Berrettini open though? Like doesn't he have to make at least the semis for a tournament to be eligible for the title?
 
dapchai

dapchai

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Jokervich said:
Love how you're covering all eventualities lol. You may as well say "I have no clue what will happen" although that will make you look bad, so you don't :-D
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A beatdown probably can't last long (2 hours or even shorter for example); the match can last for about three hours which is neither short nor long. Think before judging others.
 
Kralingen

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
I’m taking Tsitsipas but it could easily go the distance too.

This has the most potential as the NextGen rivalry that will intrigue us in the future with the players’ history and excellently contrasting styles. Huge spin player vs. flat strokes. Should be the match of the tournament so far.
 
ForehandCross

ForehandCross

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Hmm, Med is in some form. But so is Tsitsipas. Stefanos has grown after those battles against Nadalovic.

But Medvedev has the consistency and the depth and the serve to drive him mad.

In my eyes, it all depends on how Medvedev serves. If he serves well he edges it. If he doesn't then this becomes an utter dogfight.
 
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Nadal_King

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Kralingen said:
I’m taking Tsitsipas but it could easily go the distance too.

This has the most potential as the NextGen rivalry that will intrigue us in the future with the players’ history and excellently contrasting styles. Huge spin player vs. flat strokes. Should be the match of the tournament so far.
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Agree these 2 are most exciting next gen players, Zverev to be honest I just don't like as neither his game looks exciting nor he seems charismatic on court.
 
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bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
While he says he hates clay, Med does look like he's come a long way in figuring it out. His movement looked very good today, incorporating mini slides and what not. Plus the clay gives him more time and since he's tall the higher bounce may not bother him as much as some other players.
 
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jltman

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I don’t think Medvedev will be able to rely on picking on Tsistipas backhand on clay like he did in Australia.

Tsistipas backhand seems much better on clay with the high bounce. I think Tsitsipas is going to win this one
 
TennisIcon

TennisIcon

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He has the serve and the return game to drive Tsitsipas crazy, despite what people want to say Tsitsipas hasn’t looked all that dominant facing Set points to the likes of Chardy, being broken multiple times by Martinez of all people. Tsitsipas is not good at reading Medvedev’s serve at all (clay will help a little with that) and Medvedev is insanely good at reading his. If Medvedev plays like he did today against Tsitispas I’d be scared if I were Tsitsipas. I am hoping though that this a close exciting match and at the end of the day I honestly don’t care who wins. I think whoever does is going to the finals anyway.
 
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Nadal_King

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Either way Medvedev only reaches the final if he beats Tsitsipas and fokina/Nishikori are in sf as I don't see Medvedev beating Tsitsipas-Zverev back to back on CLAY and these 2 are masters 1000 champions this year
 
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Nadal_King

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TennisIcon said:
He has the serve and the return game to drive Tsitsipas crazy, despite what people want to say Tsitsipas hasn’t looked all that dominant facing Set points to the likes of Chardy, being broken multiple times by Martinez of all people. Tsitsipas is not good at reading Medvedev’s serve at all (clay will help a little with that) and Medvedev is insanely good at reading his. If Medvedev plays like he did today against Tsitispas I’d be scared if I were Tsitsipas. I am hoping though that this a close exciting match and at the end of the day I honestly don’t care who wins. I think whoever does is going to the finals anyway.
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So you think Medvedev beats Tsitsipas-Zverev back to back and don't give any chance to Zverev for the final
 
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Nadal_King

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TennisIcon said:
If Medvedev beats Tsitsipas who is 100% a better clay courter than Zverev is at the moment than yes I believe he will beat Zverev.
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Let's see I don't see him going through Tsitsipas but if he does I also don't see him going past Zverev, lightning doesn't strike twice for me
 
Rabin

Rabin

Professional
Oh, this should be fun. Hope it's the night match, otherwise I'll miss it. I'm guessing Tsitsi in 4.
 
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lordlosh

Semi-Pro
Again people are predicting draws at the beginning, and are crying that x and y guys have the worst draw ever. Yet as we see of now, Tsitsipas has the toughest draw out there.
All of his opponents so far was playing great, and now Medvedev, and if he wins, Zverev(who actually have the easiest draw out there).
The only good thing for Tsitsipas/Medeved is that if they have a really tough battle between each other, and later tough one with Zverev, they will have 2 days to rest before the finals.
 
Hitman

Hitman

Bionic Poster
The first real hype match of the tournament. Tsitsipas has played well, but Med has been the surprise story here.

This one could be a lot of fun.
 
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