SupahMan5000
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curious to hear your thoughts on both in the condensed review thread
2023 Yonex VCores
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curious to hear your thoughts on both in the condensed review thread
SupahMan5000
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@Federerkblade you seem most invested in the new Vcores here
Federerkblade
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True I have watched every review from the beginning
I will post a review once I have also played singles points with the 95
right now I am stunned with how racquet changed with lead and tension drop
yellow ptp is known to be not nice in first hour and then relatively decent tension loss and then stabilise
i will add I am playing indoors which helps a lot , no conditions externally affecting me
I will post a review once I have also played singles points with the 95
right now I am stunned with how racquet changed with lead and tension drop
yellow ptp is known to be not nice in first hour and then relatively decent tension loss and then stabilise
i will add I am playing indoors which helps a lot , no conditions externally affecting me
Federerkblade
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I don’t have recent videos of me playing tennis but to give some context to my comments on the forum a video below
in fact this video is nearly 10 years old and I have improved a lot since
but it’s gives you an idea how I can hit a forehand etc
in fact this video is nearly 10 years old and I have improved a lot since
but it’s gives you an idea how I can hit a forehand etc
A_Instead
Legend
I will update the power difference between new vcore 100 and Ezone 100..
Just give me more time..
I can conclude that the new VCore 100 has more power then the old one..
Honestly it's a whole different racket..
Think ezone 100 with thinner throat and that weight removed and added at 10/2...the fat section really enables weight transfer during the for added pop and spin..
The new VCore 100 swings very easily.
It sort of reminds me of the Boom MP.. but way better..
Just give me more time..
I can conclude that the new VCore 100 has more power then the old one..
Honestly it's a whole different racket..
Think ezone 100 with thinner throat and that weight removed and added at 10/2...the fat section really enables weight transfer during the for added pop and spin..
The new VCore 100 swings very easily.
It sort of reminds me of the Boom MP.. but way better..
Federerkblade
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Was the boom mp and pro well received ?
tennisandtennis
Semi-Pro
Karue plays at 58# because he’s a borderline ATP pro and hits harder than 99.99% of people who play tennis. Doesn’t mean he has to string that high, but I also have no idea what it’s like to have that RHS.
Federerkblade
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hes now stringing with gut on crosses not sure what’s on main or tension of strings currently
he’s a great player
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rh310
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Yeah, so was I. Very surprised. I decided on a playtest because of the paper spec comparison. I figured it would play like a slightly head heavier Blade.
I had one of my Blades with me at the court and compared them briefly. It was definite to me - and to the experienced 5.0 I was practicing with as well.
tennisandtennis
Semi-Pro
Not sluggish to me, just felt underpowered. Coming from a stiff frame ain’t it.
evermilion
New User
Edit: Maybe I'm still hitting too low in the bed?
Lasted about 4 hours :/ Last 30 min. was awful to play with. But the first 3 hours with REV/COMFORT was so good, I might try this string setup one more time. BK/OGSM setup coming next to compare to my current VC95v06 setup. I also took some footage, but I'll post that after this comparison.
I gave the VC100v07 about 4 hours also. I'm borderline considering returning it. I can't quite get the correct swingpath for the 100. Maybe REXIS SPEED full-bed is just not my thing.
Tension has nothing to do with how hard you hit. Players with non-extreme grips (eastern, modified SW) prefer a lower launch angle than someone who uses an extreme grip like Jack Sock and that explains why you see the difference in tension amongst pros.
Also higher twistweight rackets generally need higher tensions to tame power.
So tension is a very individual thing, you could have a beginner wanting 60 lbs and a professional wanting 35 lbs and vice-versa depending on the racket & string they use. It's not good advice to blindly recommend everyone string their poly's in the 40's without knowing anything about their game.
KC!
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I like full bed of poly @ 48-46 lbs, i restring about every 3 weeks in full poly or 6 weeks in gut /poly hybrid.
ichaseballs
Professional
looks like every major online retailer is sold out of the vcore 98's in 1/4 grip size...
Federerkblade
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Do you think so , one aspect I have never mentioned in the last two hits it’s never even crossed my mind this is a tighter pattern than I’m used to . I normally use a 16*19
but this 16*20 doesn’t feel tight
but this 16*20 doesn’t feel tight
SupahMan5000
Hall of Fame
yes very open, the last 2-3 strings are very very close to the bridge
Playtimefun
Rookie
Sorry... 16x18 might be as much too open as the16x20 seemed a touch too tight. Now that is based on my 2021 VC95. Hence beoh so interesting to get the 2023 and see lol
Federerkblade
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Lol look at that karue has replicated my v core 95 2023 lead placement
He’s got it at 2 and 10 and also at 12
lol
I thought I had found a good set up with it
He’s also going to review the 2023 95 soon…
He’s got it at 2 and 10 and also at 12
lol
I thought I had found a good set up with it
He’s also going to review the 2023 95 soon…
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SupahMan5000
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it just makes the most sense with the way the balance and where the sweetspot of the yonex is. the wider part of the head is fruther up around 10/2 and its so whippy that 12 balances that weight out nicely
Federerkblade
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Yup it does it also transformed the racquet for me as I have been posting
i did not enjoy it first time out
i did not enjoy it first time out
Fxanimator1
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Federerkblade
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When I first demo'd the v6 VC95, they had PolyTour Air Im guessing at 53lbs. I could feel the promise of the racquet but the sweet spot almost disappears at that tension. I just picked up another sale 95 and put in Klip uncoated gut 1.25 @56lbs X PolyTour Fire 1.25 @51lbs.
This one is 281 unstrung sw and my 1st one was 285. This string setup + overgrip/damp came out to 312sw. Going to try it out and maybe add .5g @ 12 at most. It plays really well sub 320sw.
looking forward to your take on the string tension you went with
Federerkblade
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Sounds like the frame has a lot potential just gotta dial it in to your preferences from your review
Nate7-5
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Already did almost the same thing last winter with PTF 1.20 at 55/52 - just thought the gut needed a tiny bit more tension so Im pretty sure it's going to be money.
Playtimefun
Rookie
Dumb question... but how can you guys afford gut at a "recreational" level? Don't get me wrong, there's a tradeoff point for everything but I don't think that I could afford it.
Playtimefun
Rookie
Ok... ignore that. I have always gone with gut being true gut and not a sythetic gut. Might be something I will have to try.
Playtimefun
Rookie
Ok... now I really feel stupid!!! I have been using synthetic gut for YEARS... in other racquets lmao. Will try hybriding it here in the 2021 VC95 shortly. Remember trying it in the 2021 VC98 and hating it lol.
Federerkblade
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I’m predicting Karue will love the v core 2023
stapletonj
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klip gut is about $16.00 for a 1/2 set. $5.00 for poly cross 1/2 set. It lasts at least a month (unless you are a BIG string breaker) and is lively right up till breakage.
IF you restring your poly every week or so, frankly it is a little cheaper especially if you add in the labor charge.
IF you restring your poly every week or so, frankly it is a little cheaper especially if you add in the labor charge.
djNEiGht
Legend
i'm a recreational pro!
how often are you breaking/replacing your strings? And is it synthetic or do you also mix in the occasional poly set up?
Playtimefun
Rookie
I'm a wuss now in terms of power so I have finally gotten out of string breaking mode. Come to think of it, ever since I left Wilson and switched to yonex my string breaking has gone down tremendously with the switch to the VCP97 HD. I was breaking a set every 4 Hours of tennis. When I switch to a racquet, I end up always buying 4-5 of them because when playing a tournament (men's and mixed although its the wife and I that enter men's 4.5) I'll string up 4 to 5 racquets and will go through 3-4 in 6-8 matches. I was using a lot of Luxilon because i could get it cheap. Still have Gosen because i was using it before i switched to various combinations of Luxilon. i have gone to the Volkl Cyclbeecaon.use I was trying to get more movement out of my kick serve with the VC95.
SupahMan5000
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which Wilson? the 18x20 really really helps with string breaking
Playtimefun
Rookie
Yeah. I am noticing that. I played with all models of the Wilson Pro Staff 90s.
SupahMan5000
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16x19 in a 90 is still pretty tight of a string bed, i wonder if the design of the HD is just really tight
Federerkblade
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Update as has another hit
it’s going to take time to understand the 95
today I appreciated the racquet is a serving machine
you can do anything on serve , flat , kick, slice
it’s not a fair comparison as the 100had blue ptp which seem to be more elastic and pockets more than yellow ptp
The 100 is so easy to do everything whereas the 95 has everything but it’s up to you on groundstrokes
I would like to put blue ptp in the 95 at 47.5 /47.5 and see how it goes
I still have to assess in point play how and what I can do on the forehand side with the 95
the 100 I will add another one so I have two
it’s going to take time to understand the 95
today I appreciated the racquet is a serving machine
you can do anything on serve , flat , kick, slice
it’s not a fair comparison as the 100had blue ptp which seem to be more elastic and pockets more than yellow ptp
The 100 is so easy to do everything whereas the 95 has everything but it’s up to you on groundstrokes
I would like to put blue ptp in the 95 at 47.5 /47.5 and see how it goes
I still have to assess in point play how and what I can do on the forehand side with the 95
the 100 I will add another one so I have two
Federerkblade
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Yonex have marketed the racquets for demo with the blue ptp , it may be because it looks good on colour with the frame or it may actually suit the frame . I suggest people shoukd try it with the frames before discounting any of the v cores
FuzzyYellowBalls
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I agree.....if he posts an affiliate link to sell the racket, in a way. Otherwise, he wouldn't really "like" the lower flex in the racket when he already is stringing the more stiff ones really high plus adding weight. Overall though the '23 is so very very close to the '21.
Played with the new 95 tonight after dropping the tension from 50 lbs to 45 with Head Hawk 17 and I wouldn't say it totally transforms the racquet, but does open it up a bit without losing control IMO. Love it for the OHBH and the slice control is about the best I've played with. Leather base grip, 5 grams in the buttcap and 4 grams at 3/9 works about perfect for me.
Yonex definitely has this characteristic soft feeling damped out but super stable thump from the frame when you hit the ball that has really grown on me. BTW the new VC98 strung at 50 lbs. feels equivalent to the new 95 at 45 lbs. and makes the exact same pitched tone when you hit the strings.
Yonex definitely has this characteristic soft feeling damped out but super stable thump from the frame when you hit the ball that has really grown on me. BTW the new VC98 strung at 50 lbs. feels equivalent to the new 95 at 45 lbs. and makes the exact same pitched tone when you hit the strings.
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Played with the new 95 and 98 back to back tonight and did not expect such a different character and feel between the two. The 98 doesn't have near that thick rock solid but damped and precise feel off the stringbed. The 98 has a little more pop, but the frame vibrates, distorts more, and launches the ball at a higher angle with a less precise feel. Doesn't feel bad by any means, IMO it feels fairly similar to the Technifibre TF40 315. The 95 is just special in a way that no 98 racquet can be. 95 strung w/ Head Hawk 17 @ 45 lbs, the 98 w/ Head Lynx Tour 17 @ 50 lbs. Bought and tried way too many different sticks over the last few years. I think this 95 is it.
Doubles specialist
Rookie
it is all on your own personal preferences. All the pros have insane racket head speed. Some love their rackets tight, some loose, different set ups it is all over the board. Karue hits it pretty flat so it makes sense he would string a little tighter to have a little more control since he has a lower margin for error. Most clay courters tend to string a little looser to get more spin and ball pocketing. But some rackets do perform better when strung looser as it opens up the sweet spot where as some stiffer frames will feel like absolute boards if strung tight with a stiff poly there are some many possible combinations depending on personal preferences its crazy you just need to find the one that best suits your game and understand what best suits your game.
Doubles specialist
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It really depends on your game and swing and what kind of flex you like in your rackets. The Vcore Pro line is the most flexible and has by far the most control especially the D w the 18x20 dense string pattern that is a beast so is the 330G but it has an open pattern. The Vcore line is more muted then the Ezone line and is designed for the spin monsters the 95 VC is kind of like a fish out of water w the small head and now softer feel and 16x20 its like between the Vcore and Vcore Pro, the current Vcore Pro 97 is a wet noodle compared to the previous version and they firmed up the newer D a little from 59 t0 62. The Ezone has a different feel and more access to power then all the other lines which is why it doesnt come with anything in a dense pattern. We all have different preferences and there just some rackets that feel like magic wands in your hands and some that just dont feel right. Just try them out multiple times with different tensions.
My 98 arrives today. I hope to use it later this week, schedule permitting. Timing probably bad to review a new frame, given I have been playing exclusively soccer for the past 18 months, but I will do my best nonetheless. Thread is largely 95-oriented, so more 98 info will hopefully be welcomed.
SupahMan5000
Hall of Fame
it might be because the 95 is a picky racket but very rewarding. so if it is well rounded and plays easily it is a great option to pick over the 98. the 98 IMO is so well suited to pretty much most players that theres less of a review needed except maybe to differentiate with the older version to see if upgrading from '21 to '23 is necessary
Totally makes sense. I have a TC95 in my bag, which I love, so there was no reason to trial the 95 for me.
ryushen21
Legend
It may just be me, but I am not a fan of the PTP. Of the Yonex strings that I've played with, it's my least favorite (Rev > Drive > Strike > PTP). My VC100 had Rev in it at first and it was great. Had most of the characteristics I wanted.
But I have found that the newer Yonex frames (EZone and VCore) are kind of string sensitive. This is why I stick to crisp poly such as Tour Status, Silver 7 Tour, Tour Bite in my Yonex racquets. In my experience, going to a softer poly enhances that muted feel that is already present in the racquets.
Wheelz
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I can't get away from Tourna Silver 7... I like it very much in the ezone, but have not tried the vcore.
