Alcaraz has the potential to win 30+ slams
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Niekotokio
Rookie
Good luck. That's what they're made for.
Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
Do you honestly still believe in this BS after the underwhelmign 2nd part of the season he had and the recent rise of Sinner and maybe Rune as well on top of that?! Do you realize he will have to dominate these guys i nthe future if he has even remote chance at Novak's records?! Do you not understand how how it is?...
yonexRx32
Professional
The only thing standing between Alcaraz and 30 GS trophies are other players. While we're at it, why limit him to 30? An average professional tennis career is about 15 years. At 4 GS tournamnts per year, Alcaraz can easily take home 45 trophies and leave 15 on the table to encourage others to participate, though given his competitive nature he may not even do that.Heck, let's call it 50, since this is tt.
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
You are wrong two times then. What you don't realize is now the careers are going on longer.
Rafa won in 2005 and 2022, exactly 17 years apart.
Fed won in 2003 and was 1 pt away from winning in 2019, 16 years apart.
Nole won in 2008 and 2023, 15.8 years apart already. He is going to set the record at 17 or even 18, JUST WATCH.
Please don't discuss avg tennis career at all. Just talk about the top most level. We are not in Sampras time now, after Federer played post 2016, tennis is changed forever. Alcaraz won USOpen at age 19. If he played for 16 more years, YOU ARE right. He will have 64 chances to win 28 slams. No one can say it will happen for sure. But at least right now, we can say it's definitely possible.
As big 2 ( Nole and Rafa) showed, it's possible to win 14+ slams simultaneously. Nadal was at 8 slams before USOpen 2010 and Nole at 1.
From there onwards combined they won 37 slams. And counting. It's possible for Raz to win 30 in his entire life if he doesn't have a Rafa like rival in future. And how many Rafa like rivals are there in history. Zero.
The Sinner
Semi-Pro
I highly doubt young Raz will have the same longevity, and be able to sustain a top 3-5 level for 17+ years.
Lauren_Girl'
Hall of Fame
This is TTW. People go from A+ to Z- in a heartbeat.
Alcaraz wins Wimbledon --> he is the new tennis god, he will save tennis, he won't lose a match until the end of the season, Djokovic will never beat him again, he will win 30+ Slams
A couple of defeats later --> he is a weak era mug, he is finished, he will be riddled with injuries, Sinner-Rune will destroy him, he won't win a Slam ever again.
If he wins the Austrlian Open, back to being the greatest thing since sliced bread and a future 30 Slams winner.
I think the main question for Alcaraz/Sinner/Rune and other young players is, how will they look when they're 30. Just because Fedalovic had such a high longevity and were still winning Slams at 36 doesn't mean it'll become the norm for every ATG. Maybe Alcaraz will win 15 Slams between 21 and 28 and then nothing. Or just when he reaches 20 Slams and gets close to Djokovic's record, another younger guy will show up and stop his progression. I'm sure 24 will be beaten some day but I doubt it'll be someone we know now. It will happen much later in the 2030s, 40s or 50s...
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
I love Carlos but he's not getting anywhere close to 24 slams. He's never getting close to winning all the Masters 1000's either.
Get real.
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
What real.
Raz has already won IW Miami Rogers cup, 3 HC masters. He would have won Cincy if not for choking. 4 out of 6 HC masters.
He was in SF of ATP finals at age 20 in first appearance.
And he is going to be the next KOC. He has already won Madrid 2 times and will win MC Rome maybe even next year. Even in Paris, a guy like Ferrer has won it, Alcaraz will win it too.
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic himself says he has not seen anyone as complete as Alcaraz since HIMSELF. That's very high praise.
Lauren_Girl'
Hall of Fame
Small correction, he didn't win the Rogers Cup (yet). He lost twice against Paul. 1st round in 2022, QF in 2023.
I totally agree though, I can definitely see him winning all Masters1000. Hardest ones might be Monaco and Bercy. Monaco in the wind is always difficult, he lost his only match there. As for Paris we'll see how much he can improve in Indoors conditions. Nadal never won it. Federer is an indoors specialist yet he only won it once (2011) without even facing Djokovic. It's at the end of the season in difficult conditions, so it may be the most difficult one. There is a reason why neither Federer or Nadal (or Sampras or most other ATG except Lendl) managed to snatch all 9 Masters, it's a very difficult achievement and it shouldn't be underrated. But yeah if any of the young guys can do it I'd put my money on Alcaraz.
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
True, very true.
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
We don't know what future holds for him or any other talent. If Carlos starts dominating the filed in next two years like Fed did then we shall talk.
dking68
Legend
He didn’t win rogers cup. So why didn’t Nadal win Paris then?
dking68
Legend
Sinner is the real deal. I feel sorry for anyone who hasn’t been heavily invested in him. He’s going to win a bunch of big titles next season
TNNSDR
Rookie
Guys, CAG is only 20 years old and already struggling with many injuries... No wonder considering the way he plays. After Wimbledon and his loss in Cincinnati against Novak, his tank was completely empty. There is a looong way for him to go to break even Sampras' records. Wish him all the best and to break every record he can, but this isn't going to happen if everyone literally expects this from him. At the moment, Sinner is the real deal, I agree with @dking68! Also, Sinner does not talk too much about breaking records and is down to earth. 
There is also Daniil BTW. Let's relax and watch all next-gen players unfolding!!
There is also Daniil BTW. Let's relax and watch all next-gen players unfolding!!
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
I feel the same but he needs to break his slam duck first . Once he breaks it imo he will break all records in Tennis, teeth is in for the rude awakening
dking68
Legend
Not sure about the record breaking part but in the long run, he’ll be beating Alcaraz left right and centre
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
^ Auditioning for weekends at The Laugh Factory, I see, especially, if you're referring to the majors count.
Nah, he will win more slams, probably on clay, but not 20+. His serve limitations will hinder him from Goat level success.
Nadal also had problems with his serve, but at least he was a lot taller than Carlos and was lefty.
2023 was the year of Alcaraz but the wolf in winter put him back in his place.
Next year there will also be a Red Baron mad for glory that is not afraid to outhit Carlos off the court.
Nadal also had problems with his serve, but at least he was a lot taller than Carlos and was lefty.
2023 was the year of Alcaraz but the wolf in winter put him back in his place.
Next year there will also be a Red Baron mad for glory that is not afraid to outhit Carlos off the court.
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
It's Sinner's hype now
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Zero slam final Sinner is set to dominate the tour and put teeth in his place.
Don't really care for him but I do wish him the best. His backhand is the stuff of the Gods when on song.
Besides clean striking in any sport is admirable.
Carlos has the potential to get there imo but yours is the most sane take at this point in time.
It's more likely for Carlos or anyone else to eclipse these records than it is the other way around, even if I rate Raz as one of the most precocious talents I've had the pleasure of watching on the court.
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
You missed the sarcasm ,son!
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
bigjimbofan
Rookie
The big three pushed themselves because of the competition between them. Maybe each of them do not win as many grand slams and not play as long as they did had the other 2 not existed. Just food for thought and maybe not true. Just something to think about.
I didn't. Just had to balance out my critique/skepticism on the carrot kid.
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
Charlie is amazing but I think that he might have a matchup problem against Janni. Rune could be one too. Shelton is dangerous for all.
Guys like Korda are more of a problem for Sinner.
Overall the Elo is great at predicting success but at the highest level specific matchups have a big impact. Rafa vs Roger on slow bouncy stuff is well known.
Guys like Korda are more of a problem for Sinner.
Overall the Elo is great at predicting success but at the highest level specific matchups have a big impact. Rafa vs Roger on slow bouncy stuff is well known.
Nice video, indeed Carlos year was amazing.
The problem is that pushing for Alcaraz in this forum puts Fedal fans agenda in a great contradiction when he eventually loses to Djokovic.
iceman_dl6
Professional
Even though I’m an Alcaraz fan, I do not believe he will make 30+ slams as he is very injury prone. Maybe 10 slams at most.
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't agree with this thinking. Without Nadal, Federer would have won 20 anyway. He would probably have won 17/18 even by 2010. And he was fit as a fiddle.
Nadal until 2010 was unbeaten in rivalries except 1 off like Daveydenko. Without Djokovic, he would have won 17 by 2015 and maybe would have injured less often.
And Djokovic without Nadal would probably be on 16 slams as early as 2016. His challengers would have been murray and the rest.
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
To push one of them just another one would have been quite sufficient…
If we have no big 3 and only a big 2 for five years things would look already better for Charlie.
If we have no big 3 and only a big 2 for five years things would look already better for Charlie.
dking68
Legend
Let him make a masters final first before mentioning him next to Sinner
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
Yes and no. Korda and Shelton are at the extreme points of the spectrum. One walks in the Medvedev path while the other could be the biggest server for many years. To me Sinner is suited to rule over the weaker regular players but has to adapt quite a bit against those types.
Charlie is a naturally bad matchup for counter punchers. It is no surprise that guys like Daniil are now much more aggressive against him. But how many can change their game that way and on which surfaces?
Nole has given both of them the beatdown in Turin but under the most favourable conditions. Overall the gap will shrink.
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